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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Twilight Moon on 24/10/2006 16:39:23
Wtf?
Way to shaft empire wars CCP. 
Why bother with intel? Just set the hostile corp to -10 and you're set.
...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
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Tundaar
Minmatar
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:39:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Greme
Bah, there go the suprise attacks on wartargets :(
Yup if thats not a photoshop this is one of the suckiest anti-pvp changes to date.
Consentual PvP only now eh?
Nah - it just means that Pirates will only gank the REALLY dumb players now 
Seriously how different is this - any experienced player will already be checking local for anyone who is likely to be hostile so all it does is make the process a little faster - once they get in range you can tell anyway by a) looking at your overview or b) Watching your sheilds and armour dissappear . . . .
Of course it won't help people who have their overview set up badly 
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Pick Me
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:43:00 -
[33]
It will reduce lag created by all thoses "show info" request on the server!
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Taram Caldar
Caldari
Acheron Vanguard Armada
The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:53:00 -
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No kidding, this is much much needed. And yeah I suspect it'll reduce lag because those of us who live in lowsec check every sumbish who pops in system right now to see if they're in a hostile corp or a pirate corp or whatever. I know I'm a habitual "show info" spammer when ratting in 0.0. Have avoided many gankers that way. Adding this doesn't really hurt them since I already find them. It just means I don't have to spam the server with info requests to spot them.
Not that I don't enjoy PVP... I just don't enjoy 6 on 1 PVP :)
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Paul Castrin
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:55:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Greme
Bah, there go the suprise attacks on wartargets :(
Yup if thats not a photoshop this is one of the suckiest anti-pvp changes to date.
Consentual PvP only now eh?
Local needs to be gone as an intel tool. I hope this change isn't a sign of any decision to the contrary.
I think it's pretty obvious that it is a decision to the contrary.
Removing or delaying local and thus limiting it as an intel tool is simply not going to happen. CCP has had ample opportunities to do this and have not. They most probably feel that it would unduly harm the game play of too many to make such an intrinsic change. It's time to just deal with it and move on.
As for the "consensual PvP only now" I doubt this small change will do much to change the state of things. In 0.0 (and wars) most PvP happens at gates (and conquerable stations) with one side either camping them or just running through areas while the other jumps in and finds themselves knee deep in the s**t. As for low sec, those that don't already have pirates in their "buddy" list will still meet an explosive end. Most don't pay attention to local anyway, for those that do this will change nothing.
The interesting thing about this is we will now be able to stop butchering our buddy lists (to achieve the same result as shown) and use personal standings as we always should have been able to. This very small change also has the potential to reduce the ôshow infoö lagging as well (the effect when people need to ID a person or group, which has entered local space, of his/her/their FoF status). Lowering lag in a way that does not unbalance the mechanics of the game, is a good thing IMHO.
All this assumes though that the screen shot is authentic ofc. 
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Lord Violent
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:00:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Old Geeza
Originally by: sakana
Edited by: sakana on 24/10/2006 15:19:54
Edited by: sakana on 24/10/2006 15:19:40
ZOMG this is something i've wanted for sooo long. GJ CCP.
edit: i like how whoever took the pic wanted to show off his collection of toys 
Test server - they all cost 100 isk each
No its not a photoshop
Yes other standings show
And if I wanted to show off I would have
A)Taken the picture on my caldari toon with his multiple faction BS and capital ships
b)Opened my faction mods spares tin :P
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:25:00 -
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Now if they go a head and make local constellation wide, things will be perfect.
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Corey Grim
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:05:00 -
[38]
MUCH love and respect CCP for this decision.
My latest Video:
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LaCoHa
Caldari Deep Space Navy
Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:13:00 -
[39]
I guess thats cool.
Man, there are a lot of changes being implemented that were not really publicly discussed.
I am kind of getting scared.
oh well, i guess if i can not adapt, i need to just throw in the towel.
-I am going to adapt!
"I just slaughtered 28 people in that game of Battlefield 2 and never died. Man my e-p33n feels huge." |
Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:17:00 -
[40]
Image is no longer available, can someone rehost it on eve files ?
Pantheon Lea
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Valkazm
Amarr
Cursed Spawn
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:18:00 -
[41]
ok i still dont have this awsome new atribute
Cursed Spawn recruitment |
Robert Dobbs
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:33:00 -
[42]
I have no idea why I just replied to this.
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Valkazm
Amarr
Cursed Spawn
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:36:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Robert Dobbs
I have no idea why I just replied to this.
im in a BoB thread .. anyway i cant see pics of this or heard of this yet ... what am i missing
Cursed Spawn recruitment |
Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:50:00 -
[44]
Good. Should improve server performance when people dont have to do a show info on every single person in the list.... :)
Of course it makes it harder to be the boogie man, but... fine. :p
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:52:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Old Geeza
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Greme
Bah, there go the suprise attacks on wartargets :(
Yup if thats not a photoshop this is one of the suckiest anti-pvp changes to date.
Consentual PvP only now eh?
Local needs to be gone as an intel tool. I hope this change isn't a sign of any decision to the contrary.
Until it's fixed properly, they might as well give us the tools to prevent us from doing 500 "Show Infos" whenever you enter a system.
It would be nice to use my addressbook for something other than keeping track of hostiles too.
True. I just hope it's a temporary measure before the final fix.
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Lord Violent
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:55:00 -
[46]
LocalStandings
evefiles link
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar
Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:04:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Lord Violent
LocalStandings
evefiles link
What's the target thingy in your station services? Just a new contracts button or something to do with killrights?
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:10:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Paul Castrin
Originally by: Razin
Local needs to be gone as an intel tool. I hope this change isn't a sign of any decision to the contrary.
I think it's pretty obvious that it is a decision to the contrary.
Removing or delaying local and thus limiting it as an intel tool is simply not going to happen. CCP has had ample opportunities to do this and have not. They most probably feel that it would unduly harm the game play of too many to make such an intrinsic change. It's time to just deal with it and move on.
The latest statement from Oveur on this matter (about a month ago) was that theyÆll see how the new system scanning works out and then turn off Local.
Based on that I hope the current measure is just a temporary fix for lag that is caused by inflated buddy lists.
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Old Geeza
The Retirement Home
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:22:00 -
[49]
That new item is the Most Wanted list FYI.
Contracts has been moved to the bar on the left and by the looks of it can be used in space.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:26:00 -
[50]
now i can not pretend i have 230 buddies anymore :p
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Shar Gath
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:36:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Shar Gath on 24/10/2006 19:36:34
thats really nice.
are we getting any changes on insta bookmarks in Kali1 also?
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WattBulb
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:36:00 -
[52]
Great add-on, I can now remove those 1200 members from my buddy list 
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Insidi Us
Amarr
The Imperial Commonwealth
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:26:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Insidi Us on 24/10/2006 20:26:33
Edited by: Insidi Us on 24/10/2006 20:26:27
Originally by: Shar Gath
Edited by: Shar Gath on 24/10/2006 19:36:34
thats really nice.
are we getting any changes on insta bookmarks in Kali1 also?
Discussion is still underway, according to the coldfront chatlog. Basically one of the devs said he's torn between 2 sides: "Warp to 0 and autopilot to 15" and "use your MWD noob." Either way it looks like instas are going bye bye, but no firm ETA has been given from what I've read.
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:30:00 -
[54]
Woot, we crashed Imageshack!
(And yes, I know there's another photo.)
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:11:00 -
[55]
Well see how everyone likes it when its that much harder to get a fight unless its a fleet nodecrasher or a gank.
Essentially all this will do will make small roving gangs or individuals reduce and push these people to set up their own ganks at a gate.
CCP must like one sided ganks or they have no clue about their own game. I doubt its the latter but I have no idea why anyone would be interested in the former.
The Privateering Life |
Miss Overlord
Gallente
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:13:00 -
[56]
the one sided gank issue is a side affect
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Crucifier
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:29:00 -
[57]
THIS IS ******* LAME, THIS IS SUCH A NERF ON HUNTING IN HOSTILE SPACE ITS NOT FUNNY. CCP YOU SUCK.
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Miss Social
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:31:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Crucifier
THIS IS ******* LAME, THIS IS SUCH A NERF ON HUNTING IN HOSTILE SPACE ITS NOT FUNNY. CCP YOU SUCK.
/me adds Crucifier to buddy list.
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Sir JoJo
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:51:00 -
[59]
does the blink function also work in local chat?
and yes i do not like this. the chance of comming in unseen is just reduced whit 90%
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Eskona Runningstar
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:55:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
It's about time.
Along with this, did we also get the ability to warp to ships we can see on our scanner?
No. Warping to ships you see on your scanner is reserved for a skill tree that already is in game: Astrometrics. Its also supposed to be revamped in Kali under the "System Scanning" headline.
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