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CCP Terminus
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Posted - 2015.04.01 17:55:32 -
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Hey Everyone,
The new SKIN system should be available for testing. While there will be an in depth blog going over how everything works, we're looking to see if things seem intuitive, and looking for obvious bugs.
Everything is still at early stages now, but we've seeded some SKINs on the market and look forward to you guys testing it out. More aspects of the feature will be added as we get closer to the release date.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.01 18:20:14 -
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tgl3 wrote:To reduce confusion, you could make the activation option something like "add SKIN to account".
Is there confusion?
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2015.04.01 18:51:00 -
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Commissar Kate wrote:I can't seem to activate the skin licenses at all. This was indeed broken. 
It is now fixed (a few minutes ago) - go ahead and try it out! 
CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock
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CCP Contra
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Posted - 2015.04.01 19:15:55 -
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Took the liberty to sticky this post and make it the official feedback thread.
We are also planning a mass test on the 9th of April to make sure the feature performs as expected when there are a lot of ships in a system.
Any feedback and issues are welcome here. Take into account that this is still an early stage of the feature so there are several bits still in development. We just wanted you guys to have access to this as early as possible.
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CCP Contra
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Posted - 2015.04.01 20:34:19 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:CCP Contra wrote:Any feedback and issues are welcome here. Take into account that this is still an early stage of the feature so there are several bits still in development. We just wanted you guys to have access to this as early as possible. Yes, the Mac client is pooched again (it downloads the initial patch, crashes - then alternates between downloading and updating the launcher when you restart it). And this was with a clean install. Again. It's to the point where I'm asking myself why I even bother wasting my time trying to offer any assistance when you can't even provide a workable client to test. I was basically unable to test for the last release as well due to the download-on-demand issues with the Mac.
Hey Arthur, we want to keep this topic related to SKINs only. However once we are back from Easters we will have a new build and we will check into your issues in Mac.
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CCP Terminus
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Posted - 2015.04.01 21:02:54 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:i don't play on the test server but i wanted to talk about delivery in the store. please consider selling skins as packages in addition to selling individual skins
packages could be based on ship class (buy all the megathron skins in one click), colour scheme (buy all the interbus skins) or release (buy all the skins released in the latest wave or patch)
i can see clothing bundles in the shop so i figure you've probably got skin bundles in mind anyway. i can imagine buying a bundle for my favourite ships - i'm a huge sucker for the cosmetics bundles sold in f2p shooter warframe
Bundles are definitely a thing we'll be looking at doing, and we will make sure they are thematic and make sense. |
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.02 08:54:23 -
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Galphii wrote:Are we going to see the baseline skins for a given ship applicable to a faction variant? i.e. Megathron navy issue with the megathron quafe skin
No, Megathron skin only works on the Megathron
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.02 10:35:53 -
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Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:I'm a bit worried about skin switching being abusable in large fleet fights. Do you yet have numbers on the traffic / processing demands skin switching in space will generate for clients with ships on grid?
If it has the potential to generate noticable lag i'm pretty sure you will soon see fleets come up with strategies like 'switch to new primary and then all switch skin to prevent the logi from adapting'.
Apart from the effect looking cool (which will probably lose appeal pretty fast) is there any real benefit from switching skins in space as compared to doing that only when docked (maybe also under a Force Field for players that can't dock)?
We have plans for a mass test and have rate limited how often you can switch your skin. So we are aware of this potential use and are keeping it in mind for the design and implementation. :)
We need to have skins switchable in space so if you get out of your ship it can revert back to normal.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.02 11:46:57 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Petrified wrote:If you look at that image, right where the nose of the Omen is you will see two left pointing arrows like this: << Click that and you should see the menu. CCP... please do not hide one of the coolest features you are putting into the game hidden behind a window with the requirement to click a >> Not to complain, but have to make it more transparent. One, change the >> to the word "SKINS". Two, put in a huge description in each skins item denoting on where to find it. 3, make it a smaller window that doesn't require the entire screen killing fitting window to switch.
By default it will be open, not sure why it wasn't for you. We also cannot call it SKINS as it will have more behind it than just SKINs at a later date. We are aware it can be hard to find if closed though and are trying to think of a better way to find it again.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:33:40 -
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Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:Are there long term plans to make SKINS independent from specific ships? I.e. let's say you have a Quafe license, so you'd be allowed to fly all your ships in Quafe colors.
We may sell bundles, and we could have a SKIN license that applies to multiple ships, but it would have to be specified per ship. So yes, it is possible, just not for launch.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:34:52 -
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Arronicus wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:I'm a bit worried about skin switching being abusable in large fleet fights. Do you yet have numbers on the traffic / processing demands skin switching in space will generate for clients with ships on grid?
If it has the potential to generate noticable lag i'm pretty sure you will soon see fleets come up with strategies like 'switch to new primary and then all switch skin to prevent the logi from adapting'.
Apart from the effect looking cool (which will probably lose appeal pretty fast) is there any real benefit from switching skins in space as compared to doing that only when docked (maybe also under a Force Field for players that can't dock)? We have plans for a mass test and have rate limited how often you can switch your skin. So we are aware of this potential use and are keeping it in mind for the design and implementation. :) We need to have skins switchable in space so if you get out of your ship it can revert back to normal. Is it not simply possible to block manual skin swapping in space (have it only an option when docked/moored), but allow it to happen in space when you get out of your ship? Just take away the option for us to change it in space, doesn't even have to be a coded prevention
Yes it is possible and we may end up doing that, but we would prefer to let people switch in space if it doesn't cause a problem. We will know more after the mass test.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:34:57 -
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Tryaz wrote:What are the AUR prices of new skins?
Not yet announced
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:35:31 -
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Petrified wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Petrified wrote:If you look at that image, right where the nose of the Omen is you will see two left pointing arrows like this: << Click that and you should see the menu. CCP... please do not hide one of the coolest features you are putting into the game hidden behind a window with the requirement to click a >> Not to complain, but have to make it more transparent. One, change the >> to the word "SKINS". Two, put in a huge description in each skins item denoting on where to find it. 3, make it a smaller window that doesn't require the entire screen killing fitting window to switch. By default it will be open, not sure why it wasn't for you. We also cannot call it SKINS as it will have more behind it than just SKINs at a later date. We are aware it can be hard to find if closed though and are trying to think of a better way to find it again. Just a note on this: I tested this on two different machines and on both the default was that the SKINs tab was minimized when opening the first time. After that, the client seemed to remember the state it was last left. Not sure what you can do about this: there is a noticeable flash just prior to the transitioning from one skin to another. It appears to be the application of the next skin to the ship before the ship itself shows the transition animation. There was also a stutter when docking. I posted an unlisted video here.
Yes we are aware of the little flash, it's being worked on. :) Thank you!
The stutter while docking is new though I think. Will pass it on.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 03:31:35 -
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Jarnis McPieksu wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Tryaz wrote:What are the AUR prices of new skins? Not yet announced In other words, grossly overpriced.
Out of curiosity... what would you define as overpriced?
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 03:31:54 -
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Lena Lazair wrote:How will existing skin BPs/skinned ship variants be converted to the new SKIN licensing? Or will they just be left in legacy-style until all used up?
Details to come in a dev blog
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 03:32:13 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Is their an opportunity setup for new players to learn about ship skins?
Not at this time
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 03:33:15 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:Maybe not so much SUPER as they are SUPERFICIAL
Superficial Kerr-Induced Nanocoating
AND it makes sense!
just saying
Kerr effect is an actual thing. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerr_effect So super kerr is proper.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 03:34:02 -
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Crynsos Cealion wrote:A preview mode for the skins would be great, like just make the skins themselves clickable just like current ships are in the market and when you show info on them, except of course, with the according skin applied to the ship in question.
Also, is there a plan to make hull variations (navy issue, T2) compatible to a skin bought for the base model ship? (and vice versa, like for the exhumer skins?)
No plan at this time, technically possible, we have just not thought much about the T2 ships yet
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 03:34:47 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Lena Lazair wrote:How will existing skin BPs/skinned ship variants be converted to the new SKIN licensing? Or will they just be left in legacy-style until all used up? My Naglfar Justice Edition is still a Naglfar Justice Edition on Sisi. I can't even use a SKIN on it somehow to switch between the normal Naglfar skin and the Justice Edition, it's stuck that way.
The skin only works on the base Naglfar ship, that is to be expected. Your Neglfar, assuming you have it come release, will be converted to a normal one and you will be given a skin.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 03:35:30 -
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Alexei Stryker wrote:Bug: Changing the skin in space makes it blink a short period before it change back to the old skin... And then the animation begins to transform to the new skin.
Operating System: Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600) (9600.winblue_r8.150127-1500) Language: German (Regional Setting: German) Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.3GHz Memory: 16384MB RAM Available OS Memory: 16382MB RAM Page File: 4685MB used, 28080MB available DirectX Version: DirectX 11 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x683D) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Display Memory: 8934 MB Dedicated Memory: 998 MB Shared Memory: 7936 MB Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz) Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Thank you!
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 12:30:13 -
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Eria Quint wrote:Didn't test it out yet but i'm wondering what happens if you have the option "Match theme to active ship" turned on in the settings. Will color change when you eg apply the quafe skin license to a Obelisk. Will it keep the Gallente color theme or will it change to a "quafe"/blue theme ?
Don't think a green/gallente theme really matches a Quafe "skinned" Obelisk.
Tnx in advance for the feeback on this.
At this time the two features have no impact on eachother
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 12:31:36 -
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Daniel Fergus wrote:It would be cool if we could preview the skins before we buy them.
I also hope that at some point we get kaalakiota skins.
You can do that now from the fitting screen, you can select skins you don't own and view them right there. We hope to also add this to the 3D preview of ships later
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 12:32:01 -
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Aliventi wrote:Is there any reason that the Rattlesnake Victory Edition didn't get the SKIN treatment? All it is is a skinned Rattlesnake. I would really love to PvP in a Victory Skinned Rattlesnake without losing the skin when the ship goes pop.
Yes there is a reason, it's being looked into :)
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 12:32:17 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:No plan at this time, technically possible, we have just not thought much about the T2 ships yet There are some previews in the game for T2 Marauder BPCs. Will these be released as skins in the April update? (ie: Golem Guristas/Kaalakiota/Nugoeihuvi, Kronos Police/Quafe/Inner Zone, Paladin Blood Raider/Kador/Tash-Murkon, Vargur Justice/Krusual/Nefantar).
At this time those will not be making their way to TQ.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 14:46:59 -
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ApertureKubi wrote:What's going happen to the Quafe and other variants of the Iteron IV/Miasmos?
That ship was originally a lower requirement Iteron IV before the rebalance, after the SKIN release will it be a Miasmos skin or will it be for another one of the Gallente Industrials?
A full list of whats being converted will be included in an upcoming dev blog
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 18:43:07 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:The original dev blog hinted that some SKINs might come as packages that you can apply to multiple hulls. Is this still planned or are we looking at individual SKINs only? If this is still something being considered, how will it work if I buy a "Guristas" package now with x number of SKINs that later gets expanded to y SKINs? Do I receive the additional SKINs as a free upgrade?
We have the tech in place for a license unlocking a given SKIN on multiple ships and we can also sell packages on the NES with multiple items. So we have a few ways to accomplish that package thing.
If it's a package from the NES and we simply change the package it would be more likely that it's a new package and so no retroactive update.
If we change the license then you would go it as we would be updating the license and thats whats applied to your character.
I don't know if we are doing any packages or multiple hull licenses for launch. Aiming to keep it simple and prove the system.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.03 18:43:54 -
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Caldari 5 wrote:I'm on SiSi atm playing around with things, just noticed a bug. The expanding/contracting triangles for both the Licensed and Unlicensed only expands/contracts the Unlicensed SKINs.
Putting in my support for Packs of all skins for 1 ship type, and/or all skins for "Manufacturer"(ie Guristas/Kaalakiota/Nugoeihuvi/etc).
I would also like to see a Taken to the extreme set for each race, eg Golden Amarr, (the current Punisher looks too green, I liked the previous one where it was more Golden :) )
Note on the << >> toggle button, I'm using the Dark Matter theme, and they could be made a couple of shades whiter to stand out more, or made Bolder.
Awesome, thanks for the feedback!
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:26:45 -
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So on the temporary SKINs topic: There are two reason for the existence of these. First and foremost some skins can drop from NPCs as loot. See police pursuit comet. If we were to drop a permanent skin the value of that as loot goes down over time and eventually it becomes just a worthless drop. Hopefully that makes sense.
The second reason is China. They have requested timed versions of all the SKINs so we are giving them that. As far as I am aware, we don't have any plans on selling timed version of the skins.
Thats the two reasons for launch, but having timed skins gives us more options in the future as well. Maybe we can offer trials of skins so you can try before buy. Maybe we can also hand out timed versions at conventions like PAX, or give them to events such as EVE London or EVEsterdam to give away rather than giving away the permanent ones. Having time limited ones just gives us more options down the road, possibly options we have not thought of yet. However we built the new system because we wanted permanent ship skins, they are our focus.
Hope that helps! :)
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:27:43 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:So will we be seeing any T2 or T3 SKINs eventually or will they be restricted to aT1 hulls only?
It is possible and likely. I know we would love every ship in the game to have skins. We have some concerns with tech 2 ships, but will work those out.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:28:21 -
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Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:CCP FoxFour, Could we get a definitive answer whether consuming a licence converted from say, Rifter Nefantar Edition --- would such licence allow you to apply the Nefantar colours to a Tempest, or a Hurricane? Or would it be restricted only to Rifters? Thanks 
Have said this many times, if the license is for a rifter then you only get it for the rifter.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.04 12:23:56 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Caldari 5 wrote:I'm on SiSi atm playing around with things, just noticed a bug. The expanding/contracting triangles for both the Licensed and Unlicensed only expands/contracts the Unlicensed SKINs.
Putting in my support for Packs of all skins for 1 ship type, and/or all skins for "Manufacturer"(ie Guristas/Kaalakiota/Nugoeihuvi/etc).
I would also like to see a Taken to the extreme set for each race, eg Golden Amarr, (the current Punisher looks too green, I liked the previous one where it was more Golden :) )
Note on the << >> toggle button, I'm using the Dark Matter theme, and they could be made a couple of shades whiter to stand out more, or made Bolder. Awesome, thanks for the feedback! This wouldn't be a problem with Dark Opaque theme... Packs of all skins for one ship type may be confusing. New skins will be added and then this pack isn't complete anymore... EDIT: Will it be possible to remotely activate skin licences? Just like PLEX.
On the packs: It depends on how the pack is done. I mentioned this in another post.
On remote activation: Possibly not at launch, but it is on our list of things to do.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:20:54 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:So on the temporary SKINs topic: There are two reason for the existence of these. First and foremost some skins can drop from NPCs as loot. See police pursuit comet. If we were to drop a permanent skin the value of that as loot goes down over time and eventually it becomes just a worthless drop. Hopefully that makes sense. Sure. How does the "timed" feature work? Does it begin counting down on SKIN activation or is it based on actual time in use on a particular hull? I assume the former, but was just hoping for a clarification (thanks).
Thanks for the question, this will help while writing the dev blog to explain it. Short story is the timer is real time, not time in the hull, and starts once the license is injected.
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CCP Cognac
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:58:19 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Thanks for the question, this will help while writing the dev blog to explain it. Short story is the timer is real time, not time in the hull, and starts once the license is injected. Thanks. Followup question... What happens when you activate a 30-day SKIN and then another 30-day SKIN? Is the effect cumulative (30+30 = 60 days) or does activating a second timed SKIN reset the value to that of the second SKIN? Can you combine similar timed SKINs to get a longer value? (ie: 30-day SKIN + 60-day SKIN = 90-day SKIN)
They will always extend the time, and if we have different timed ones you can mix and match.
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CCP FoxFour
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Posted - 2015.04.05 15:24:54 -
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FistyMcBumBardier wrote:Can we please do away with the concept of 30 day skins? They are in my opinion extremely limiting. I for one will not pay ISK for a SKIN that is on a timer.
Just because they exist doesn't mean we will use them on TQ. Again, many of those timed ones exist for China, which is a different server with a completely different market.
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CCP Terminus
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Posted - 2015.04.05 21:09:38 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Lena Lazair wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote: The basis for most micro transactions is to keep them as micro transactions. Nobody will go out and buy a 30 dollar skin.
Something like that. Can pick single options, or pick tons of skins.
Meh... I would totally pay $30 for a permanent skin, provided it was awesome and for a ship I use. I've spent more than that for cosmetics in other games. I agree that not EVERY skin should be $30, but a wide range of prices/exclusivity is fine by me. It is interesting to see the "outliers" who are willing to pay such large amounts of money for such things. It will be even more interesting to see if CCP decide that targeting such purchasers makes business sense. It didn't go down well before, and is unlikely to now. Hopefully marketing have either learned or have been replaced after all of this time. If CCP wish to have a decent income, and a satisfied customer base, considering the main income they have comes from regular, repeat subscribers and customers, they will be best served by pricing these items at a "trivial" cost point, where everyone basically buys them. We will see.
Like Lena Lazair pointed out previously, there were many reasons for monocle gate occuring, some of which being high price points on everything, the cosmetics targeted towards a non-gameplay portion of the game, and even the general anger at the Incarna expansion.
We would like to avoid retreading that path, so we are working on a plan for the pricing system which can help avoid this. I would like to restate that every single SKIN will be available on the in-game market for ISK if a player is willing to sell it. We know some of our player base dislikes paying for anything beyond the subscription (or in some cases even the subscription) and that is a completely valid viewpoint to take, which is why we've made sure it is an option for players to get everything in the game through the market. |
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Irregessa wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Daniel Fergus wrote:It would be cool if we could preview the skins before we buy them.
I also hope that at some point we get kaalakiota skins. You can do that now from the fitting screen, you can select skins you don't own and view them right there. We hope to also add this to the 3D preview of ships later If you own that ship. I would love to see what the avatar looks like with the Khanid skin, but not owning an avatar I can't.
So what CCP Foxfor was saying is that we hope to add the same features in the Fitting screen to the 3D Preview screen. This means you will be able to preview SKINs for ships you don't own, and even buy them (or link to the market) right from that screen if you wish.
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Sindocate wrote:Dunno if it was reported yet, but Siege and Triage modules sometimes deactivate SKINs. It happened to me at the beginning of triage and, surprisingly, at the end of siege cycle. My fitting window wasn't opened so it couldn't be misclick.
Thank you for the heads up. :) We were aware but it never hurts to be told again.
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CCP Terminus
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Herman Menderchuck wrote:Sorry if this has been asked already, but will ALL existing ship skin BPCs/skinned ships be converted to PERMANENT licenses?
I saw the timed licenses on SiSi and was wondering if the current BPC skin drops from the explo sites will be timed since if they are not, those sites will get pointeless real quick.
All BPCs from the NES Store will become an amount of permanent Licenses equal to the runs left on the BPC.
All skinned ships that come from the NES and a list of special edition ships will become a base ship and a SKIN License. The full list will be in the dev blog, will only really affect special edition ships that don't have a stats difference from the base ship, other than the Scorpion Ishukone Watch which will also be converted over.
BPC skin drops will become Time Limited Licenses. We have no plans to sell time limited SKIN Licenses but we do want to use them for in-game drops.
Ships which are created in-game such as the ones made from dropped skin BPCs (4 destroyers, 4 battlecruisers) will become the base ship and you'll be given at least 1 time-limited version of the SKIN License.
Licenses given to you under this system will be put in your redeeming queue.
Hope that helps!
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CCP Terminus
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Yongtau Naskingar wrote:CCP Terminus wrote:All skinned ships that come from the NES and a list of special edition ships will become a base ship and a SKIN License. Does that include the various Quafe skins?
The newer ones yes. You'll still need to have the ship or BPC somewhere when we convert it. Some of the older Quafe industrials with Quafe bays won't be converted over, but ships like the Quafe Tristan, Quafe Catalyst, Quafe Vexor, Quafe Megathron, and Quafe Dominix definitely will be.
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CCP Terminus
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I am still confused, are the licenses of any particular skin only good for one ship type? Ex: if I have a BP now for a Interbus Moros skin, when release on Tq would that just become an interbus skin license for any T1 I sit in? [/quote]
So your InterBus Moros Edition BPC will turn in to a Moros InterBus SKIN (Permanent) which is a License that will be placed in your redeeming queue. The License only affects the Moros in this case, and all Licenses in the initial release will only affect one ship, though there is no technical limitation to why we can't have it affect multiple ships in the future.
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CCP FoxFour
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Maennas Vaer wrote:If you die in a SKINned ship, will the KM reflect this? I understand that it wont be reflected in the value at all but it'd be cool if it was visible on the ship itself in the KM.
We hope to add that but it's a bit lower on the priority list.
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CCP Cognac
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Posted - 2015.04.09 15:02:24 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Maennas Vaer wrote:If you die in a SKINned ship, will the KM reflect this? I understand that it wont be reflected in the value at all but it'd be cool if it was visible on the ship itself in the KM. We hope to add that but it's a bit lower on the priority list [for the initial release :)] .
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CCP Cognac
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FistyMcBumBardier wrote:CCP Terminus wrote:Herman Menderchuck wrote:Sorry if this has been asked already, but will ALL existing ship skin BPCs/skinned ships be converted to PERMANENT licenses?
I saw the timed licenses on SiSi and was wondering if the current BPC skin drops from the explo sites will be timed since if they are not, those sites will get pointeless real quick. All BPCs from the NES Store will become an amount of permanent Licenses equal to the runs left on the BPC. All skinned ships that come from the NES and a list of special edition ships will become a base ship and a SKIN License. The full list will be in the dev blog, will only really affect special edition ships that don't have a stats difference from the base ship, other than the Scorpion Ishukone Watch which will also be converted over. BPC skin drops will become Time Limited Licenses. We have no plans to sell time limited SKIN Licenses but we do want to use them for in-game drops. Ships which are created in-game such as the ones made from dropped skin BPCs (4 destroyers, 4 battlecruisers) will become the base ship and you'll be given at least 1 time-limited version of the SKIN License. Licenses given to you under this system will be put in your redeeming queue. Hope that helps! How will this work for those of us that have a lot of ships on the market? Will we have those sell orders returned to us with the ships and skins?
Like with the previous module tieracide changes , orders will be cancelled and broker fees repaid.
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Rat Scout wrote:I have only purchased one skin so far, and it was for the Helios because that's how bad they are in general, they do not look any better then simply not having them. Please don't get me wrong, I like the concept and I really want nice looking ships, the problem I am having thou is that 99% of the available SKIN's are bland, and they do not have any "pop" in space. Here is what I mean: http://imgur.com/ZhLVDnY http://imgur.com/Q1cOOSw
There is absolutely no distinction between those 2 images, and don't tell me its "my computer" because it is not. Even the ones that I consider great once they are in space with your graphics engine the work simply fades away in space, it becomes overpowered by the reflections, shadows and all the fancy physics simulations. And that is the real problem with SKIN's. There are great looking ones in the store, thanks to the neutral background but that is where it ends. You can thank me with a PLEX for this enlightenment, o7.
We are aware of this, especially for Caldari and Minmatar. Expect some new SKINs later this summer that hopefully work towards fixing this. :)
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