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Kenneth Endashi
Atomic Pharmaceuticals
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:10:24 -
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Hello, I am wondering if simulated prostitution is against the terms of service laid out by CCP. I know it is a funny question, but if you read my post history, you will see I do not troll. Please keep responses serious, respectful and focused only on my question(s).
Hypothetically: Let's say I would like to make ISK selling my virtual body. Would there be limits or restrictions placed on this type of in-game behavior? The sessions would take place via private chat, and only the sale itself would be announced in Local.
I would guess that in spite of Eve's reputation for unregulated market activity, there still has to be restrictions on the nature of the language used to promote the activity. What might those restrictions be?
I searched the forum and could not find past discussions on the topic. Has this ever come up before?
Reminder: Please keep responses clean and respectful. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3761
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:15:06 -
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Dude, it's like IRL: type something like 'convo me if you're feeling cold and lonely out there in space' and take it from there...
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Vek Hareka
Fist Bumps All Around
2
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:15:44 -
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Have you tried looking for the Elwynn system ?
Quote:Please keep responses clean and respectful.
It's OK, I mean, what could go wrong here, right ? |
Kenneth Endashi
Atomic Pharmaceuticals
53
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:16:25 -
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What is the Elwynn system? |
Vek Hareka
Fist Bumps All Around
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:17:52 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:What is the Elwynn system?
It's in the Lion's Pride constellation, look it up ! |
Avaelica Kuershin
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:23:02 -
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Vek Hareka wrote:Kenneth Endashi wrote:What is the Elwynn system? It's in the Lion's Pride constellation, look it up !
When I saw the title I thought "Oh great... sigh. Someone overlooked the rating"
Also, SL is still in existence.
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1618
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:44:38 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:HelloI searched the forum and could not find past discussions on the topic. Has this ever come up before?
Plenty and they all got locked.
These forums are pegi 12. |
Kenneth Endashi
Atomic Pharmaceuticals
53
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:46:44 -
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Is the game rated differently from the forum? |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
290
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:52:17 -
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Could have sworn I have seen this topic here before. |
Vek Hareka
Fist Bumps All Around
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:54:10 -
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Ok, now, since you're looking for "serious answers", here's one, based on my... I mean some friend's experience in interacial/ interplanar/ interspecies forestside virtual sexual intercourse.
Yeah, right.
Quote:Let's say I would like to make ISK selling my virtual body.
No-one would pay for that. That's a fact. Forget the gold... eeer ISK. never works.
Quote:Would there be limits or restrictions placed on this type of in-game behavior?
Yes there would. It's forbidden and can get you into trouble should you get reported.
Quote:The sessions would take place via private chat,
However, there's your opening here: private sex-themed convo, if consensual, place both (or more...) participants into double wedlock of mutual breach: "Reporting me means reporting yourself".
Quote:and only the sale itself would be announced in Local.
No. This would get you trolled to J-space and beyond. Don't.
Any questions ? |
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Kenneth Endashi
Atomic Pharmaceuticals
53
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:03:45 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:Could have sworn I have seen this topic here before.
I am sorry if it came up before. I am interested in opening up a discusson on what the limits are, not necessarily a binary, yes or no response. How can it be done within the rules of the game, if there are any?
My concern is that people might write authoritative-sounding answers in snide, malicious overtones, skirting my request that responses be mature and respectful.
I saw in the terms obscenity is prohibited, as well as sexually explicit language, which are rules I agree with, even in a sandbox game. However, I am as interested in learning the possibilities as I am in learning the limitations, so negativity is not really needed in this case, but I recognize the subject matter - for whatever reason - arouses jealousy, or contempt, in certain people, like Vek Hareka, so it's pretty much unavoidable.
Still, thank you for being courteous and helpful in the rest of your responses. |
Vek Hareka
Fist Bumps All Around
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:11:08 -
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Quote:so negativity is not really needed in this case, but I recognize the subject matter - for whatever reason - arouses jealousy, or contempt, in certain people, like Vek Hareka, so it's pretty much unavoidable.
Snappy but dead serious I was, my studdy friend: the "private convo only" part of my answer was especially a sound, sincere and tested advice from me.
Here's another tip: no male avatar ever gets laid. These are myth. Get a girl-face. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
35429
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:16:23 -
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If it is cyber between two consenting adults, then more power to them.
The issue I can see is that the game has a PEGI 13 rating and it is easy enough for someone even younger to register.
How you identify and deny your service/product to those characters is a challenge, because even in a game, cybering with a child is not only repulsive, but also in many jurisdictions illegal, irrespective of where you are.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Fabrizio Faggetino
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:17:14 -
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I thought this would be about rental space. |
Kenneth Endashi
Atomic Pharmaceuticals
53
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:17:44 -
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Vek Hareka wrote:Quote:so negativity is not really needed in this case, but I recognize the subject matter - for whatever reason - arouses jealousy, or contempt, in certain people, like Vek Hareka, so it's pretty much unavoidable. Snappy but dead serious I was, my studdy friend: the "private convo only" part of my answer was especially a sound, sincere and tested advice from me. Here's another tip: no male avatar ever gets laid. These are myth. Get a girl-face.
I added a serious tag to the thread, Vek, because not only do I want serious responses, it is a courtesy to let the forum know I am serious, too. It is a hypothetical question having nothing to do with me or my intentions.
But I hear you: So let me see if I understand you, if two consenting people use obscenities in private conversation, this is still grounds for a ban? Or is there a lighter punishment first, like a warning? |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1618
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:22:43 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:Is the game rated differently from the forum?
Just check the footer of this forum.
I also leave this here:
Quote:34. Posting of inappopriate content is prohibited.
The posting of pornography, discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive as well as excessive obscene or vulgar language, posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity, or an instance of providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. |
Kenneth Endashi
Atomic Pharmaceuticals
53
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:29:49 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Kenneth Endashi wrote:Is the game rated differently from the forum? Just check the footer of this forum. I also leave this here: Quote:34. Posting of inappopriate content is prohibited.
The posting of pornography, discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive as well as excessive obscene or vulgar language, posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity, or an instance of providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums.
Pak, thanks for responding. Please read my previous post in which I addressed the obscenity section of the terms you just pasted. I have already seen it. That section is what I am asking about.
Does CCP ban for obscenity in private conversations between two consenting players?
Also, I took your suggestion and scrolled to the bottom of the forum. The irony is not lost on me that rating agencies condition audiences to be more comfortable with simulated violence than simulated intimacy. |
Vek Hareka
Fist Bumps All Around
5
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:36:31 -
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Quote:But I hear you: So let me see if I understand you, if two consenting people use obscenities in private conversation, this is still grounds for a ban? Or is there a lighter punishment first, like a warning?
It's still ground for a ban or at least a slap on the account-wrist, but the key here is "consenting": CCP wardens have more pressing matters than scanning everybody's chats and you'd have to be specifically reported. However, reporting you after you graphically evoked diverse acts of fluid exchange and organ penetration in private chan would only get the reporter in same trouble if convo started with him/ her saying "Give it dirty to me you space rascal".
The only real risk is you convoing an underage player and his father/ mother show up right behind him, reads the chan and reports you: no "consent defense" possible here. But that would be a hassle for him. The failsafe: ask your partner to testify he's 21+ in chat.
Basically, this activity needs trust. Don't advertise it. Make a contact list and work on it. |
Don Purple
Snuggle Society.
1151
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Posted - 2015.04.03 07:59:06 -
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Its been done.
I sent my buddy Highpriest holy tentacle to one of these ppl once..... he got his isk worth.
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point
Nulli Secunda
852
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:06:15 -
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Vek Hareka wrote:Have you tried looking for the Elwynn system ?
Storytime?
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries
Northern Coalition.
626
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:34:38 -
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You go about doing this the same way our species has handled this kind of "business" for the last 3000 years IRL: Massive enterprise with a massive amount of sellers and obscene amount of buyers. But everybody keeps their mouth shut. We don't talk about it; it does not exist.
In EVE we joke about prostitution the same way people joke about it in real life. You want to take it further, you came to the wrong place. You cannot seriously expect to have an adult conversation with an international audience about something that's been "denied" for millenia.
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Null Infinity
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:38:54 -
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Yarda Black wrote: You cannot seriously expect to have an adult conversation with an international audience about something that's been "denied" for millenia.
Ever concideed, that it has 'been "denied" for millenia' for a good reason? Woman is not an overpriced toilet for your sperma, you know... |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries
Northern Coalition.
626
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Posted - 2015.04.03 08:42:04 -
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Null Infinity wrote:Yarda Black wrote: You cannot seriously expect to have an adult conversation with an international audience about something that's been "denied" for millenia.
Ever concideed, that it has 'been "denied" for millenia' for a good reason? Woman is not an overpriced toilet for your sperma, you know...
Agreed |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2015.04.03 09:26:03 -
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Hello there!
It's perfectly fine.
Prostitution for ISK or ships (i'd rather void PLEX directly) is way more common in New Eden
than most people realise. It's a legit way of making ISK and as long as you keep it private ...
... or stay classy and sexy in local (erotic novels are a thing you know?) ...
... then you can do this how often you want, all day long.
And please do not listen to clueless, experienceless, stupid haters.
In general, the pythonic "It's easier to ask for forgiveness, than permission" applies
CCP loves python. Do as you wish, BUT STAY WITHIN COMMON SENSE!
If you need more help, just send me a mail and please do not let yourself
get side tracked by the wannabe good people who only drag humanity down as a whole.
*kinks* (:
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
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Aphsala
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2015.04.03 09:38:55 -
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Your 2 days late pal |
Thorn en Distel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2015.04.03 10:12:37 -
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Yarda Black wrote:You go about doing this the same way our species has handled this kind of "business" for the last 3000 years IRL: Massive enterprise with a massive amount of sellers and obscene amount of buyers. But everybody keeps their mouth shut. We don't talk about it; it does not exist.
Only in countries where it's illegal I think. It's talked about plenty over here. Regulated, taxed, unionized and with mandatory checkups.  |
Seven Koskanaiken
Positive Failure
Black Legion.
1462
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Posted - 2015.04.03 13:27:58 -
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Cyber is allowed but only if conducted in 70s style bawdy innuendo. |
Dots
State Protectorate
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.04.03 13:32:29 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:Hello, I am wondering if simulated prostitution is against the terms of service laid out by CCP.
Quote:Prostitute
Group: Commodity / Livestock
Description: An individual who provides sexual services in exchange for currency.
Mass: 50 kg
Volume: 1 m3
everything is better with ߦêߦÆߦù-ó on it
New Player Opportunities: a gallery
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Hai Boiz
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.04.03 13:34:40 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:Hello, I am wondering if simulated prostitution is against the terms of service laid out by CCP.
You might be surprised at some of the highly placed CCP employees that visit my special channel.
Hai Boiz House of Pleasure & Pain.
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Darren Airtex
Born Imperialism
17
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Posted - 2015.04.03 13:37:37 -
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Sounds like someone really needs to spend more time in Real Life. |
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