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Morgoth Galaxius
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.03 17:56:06 -
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Hello, recently I was missioning in hi-sec when out of nowhere a frigate appeared and started looting my kills. The pilot was promptly rewarded with the *suspect* status. From what I understand, I would be within my rights to fire upon this individual.
But I withheld any hostile action thinking there was probably more to this than met the eye.
If I'm not mistaken, this is called suspect baiting? And although I could fire upon the pilot, his allies could immediately descend on me? How exactly does this work? If he fired upon me first, would he be alone in the battle?
I'm not complaining, just looking for an explanation of the mechanics. Thank you! |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
902
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Posted - 2015.04.03 17:59:15 -
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Just shoot him, it's just a frigate
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Gate Camp Theory
1571
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Posted - 2015.04.03 18:11:20 -
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Morgoth Galaxius wrote:Hello, recently I was missioning in hi-sec when out of nowhere a frigate appeared and started looting my kills. The pilot was promptly rewarded with the *suspect* status. From what I understand, I would be within my rights to fire upon this individual.
But I withheld any hostile action thinking there was probably more to this than met the eye.
If I'm not mistaken, this is called suspect baiting? And although I could fire upon the pilot, his allies could immediately descend on me? How exactly does this work? If he fired upon me first, would he be alone in the battle?
I'm not complaining, just looking for an explanation of the mechanics. Thank you!
Was doing missions on an ALT for standings in high sec when such a fellow warped in, and did likewise. I was in the Mission with 2 BS so I microjumpdrived the one that had the aggro 100 k out and all the mercenarry rats aggressed him instantly and he died horribly in a fire.
I loled hard.
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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2015.04.03 18:23:56 -
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Morgoth Galaxius wrote:Hello, recently I was missioning in hi-sec when out of nowhere a frigate appeared and started looting my kills. The pilot was promptly rewarded with the *suspect* status. From what I understand, I would be within my rights to fire upon this individual.
But I withheld any hostile action thinking there was probably more to this than met the eye.
If I'm not mistaken, this is called suspect baiting? And although I could fire upon the pilot, his allies could immediately descend on me? How exactly does this work? If he fired upon me first, would he be alone in the battle?
I'm not complaining, just looking for an explanation of the mechanics. Thank you!
If he is yellow or red, you can shoot them. You can pod him aswell. But do not be stupid, shooting MTU or can stealing is the new can flipping joke in high sec.
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Paranoid Loyd
4509
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Posted - 2015.04.03 18:34:46 -
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You should never engage a PVP ship in a ship that is not set up for PVP.
That being said, the first time I did it, I lost my ship but it was the most fun I had in the game up to that point.
The best way to learn is usually to make mistakes, just shoot him!
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2629
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Posted - 2015.04.03 18:42:14 -
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Asmodia wrote:edit: for question like this exists an Help channel in EVE. Going to forum onyl gives you stupid answers from stupid people.
Calm down, miner.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
A recent survey of applicants to CODE. corporations showed that 100% accepted James 315 as their saviour. You can't argue with facts.
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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:08:21 -
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admiral root wrote:Asmodia wrote:edit: for question like this exists an Help channel in EVE. Going to forum onyl gives you stupid answers from stupid people. Calm down, miner.
Comes from someone that loads in a 500 million ship with t1 antimatter charges. In t2 guns  |
Paranoid Loyd
4511
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:17:53 -
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Asmodia wrote:admiral root wrote:Asmodia wrote:edit: for question like this exists an Help channel in EVE. Going to forum onyl gives you stupid answers from stupid people. Calm down, miner. Comes from someone that loads in a 500 million ship with t1 antimatter charges. In t2 guns
One can not mock a kill board if they do not have one of their own.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:22:31 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Asmodia wrote:admiral root wrote:Asmodia wrote:edit: for question like this exists an Help channel in EVE. Going to forum onyl gives you stupid answers from stupid people. Calm down, miner. Comes from someone that loads in a 500 million ship with t1 antimatter charges. In t2 guns One can not mock a kill board if they do not have one of their own.
Are you his great brother or is he to shy to speak for himself ? - This off-topic proofs only my edit.
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Paranoid Loyd
4511
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:27:16 -
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I am an independent third party commenting on your comment. You are talking trash and you have no kill board to display you have any reason to be talking said trash. Therefore your comments are invalid. As originally stated, calm down miner.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:30:02 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:I am an independent third party commenting on your comment. You are talking trash and you have no kill board to display you have any reason to be talking said trash. Therefore your comments are invalid. As originally stated, calm down miner.
And why he started this off-topic discussion ? His 'pvp' are not very impressive. You are fine, but he is a noob.
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Paranoid Loyd
4511
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:32:49 -
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If you read your original comment that he replied to, it is off topic not to mention wrong.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:35:49 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:If you read your original comment that he replied to, it is off topic not to mention wrong.
My edit of on topic. because it is stupid to ask on crime & punishment. 50% of all posts will be trash. He should join 'Help' channel. |
Paranoid Loyd
4511
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:37:21 -
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If you really think the help channel is any better than this forum you truly are a noob.
It's not where you post, it's how you post it. OP asked an honest question with out whining. He will get good answers.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:43:59 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:If you really think the help channel is any better than this forum you truly are a noob.
It's not where you post, it's how you post it. OP asked an honest question with out whining. He will get good answers.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2015.04.03 20:46:51 -
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Morgoth Galaxius wrote:
I'm not complaining, just looking for an explanation of the mechanics. Thank you!
As said before he wants to bait you into a fight. A properly fitted frig is capable of tanking and killing a mission fit battleship, even more if accompanied by an offgrid booster alt. Also he may pretend to bail after your first shot (you have no point to hold him) and come back in a better ship to finish the fight as you both have a limited engagement timer for 5 minutes.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
903
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Posted - 2015.04.03 21:07:22 -
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Asmodia wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:If you read your original comment that he replied to, it is off topic not to mention wrong. My edit of on topic. because it is stupid to ask on crime & punishment. 50% of all posts will be trash. He should join 'Help' channel.
Miner! Calm down!
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
1491
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Posted - 2015.04.03 21:10:37 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Morgoth Galaxius wrote:
I'm not complaining, just looking for an explanation of the mechanics. Thank you!
As said before he wants to bait you into a fight. A properly fitted frig is capable of tanking and killing a mission fit battleship, even more if accompanied by an offgrid booster alt. Also he may pretend to bail after your first shot (you have no point to hold him) and come back in a better ship to finish the fight as you both have a limited engagement timer for 5 minutes.
To add in, another tactic would be to bring in an Orca or Bowhead and drop off a larger ship with an alt.
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Mag's
the united
19234
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Posted - 2015.04.03 21:18:26 -
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Asmodia wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:If you really think the help channel is any better than this forum you truly are a noob.
It's not where you post, it's how you post it. OP asked an honest question with out whining. He will get good answers. Hope is the last (thing) to die Our hope? You, being a calm miner.
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Morgoth Galaxius
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.04.03 21:26:48 -
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Thanks for the answers! Especially the notion of not engaging a PVP fit ship with one that's fit for PVE.
(I did want to light the suspect up though! )
Quote:edit: for question like this exists an Help channel in EVE. Going to forum onyl gives you stupid answers from stupid people.
You might be right, but I was also looking for an 'icebreaker' to get myself involved with the Eve forums.
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
1492
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Posted - 2015.04.03 21:42:50 -
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Morgoth Galaxius wrote:Thanks for the answers! Especially the notion of not engaging a PVP fit ship with one that's fit for PVE. (I did want to light the suspect up though! ) Quote:edit: for question like this exists an Help channel in EVE. Going to forum onyl gives you stupid answers from stupid people. You might be right, but I was also looking for an 'icebreaker' to get myself involved with the Eve forums.
Asking for advice is always a good ice breaker
And despite the insistance of our salty friend up there, you came to the right place with your question. Not only are the crafty baxtards who do these kinds of things all too happy to tell how it works (never know, maybe you'll try it yourself ), but anyone who uses the forum to look for targets will now have you pegged as someone who probably won't take the bait. Showing an ability to stay calm and willingness to learn makes you a hard mark.
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Paranoid Loyd
4516
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Posted - 2015.04.03 22:04:25 -
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Morgoth Galaxius wrote:Thanks for the answers! Especially the notion of not engaging a PVP fit ship with one that's fit for PVE. (I did want to light the suspect up though! ) And you should light him up. Like I said you will probably die in a fire but you will enjoy yourself.
Who doesn't fall flat on their face the first time they try to walk?
Tell you what, next time it happens light him up, fall flat on your face and die in a fire. Keep good notes on what your opponent does and what you did, make a full write up and post it here. Mail me the killmail and I will will reimburse you. FRAPS the fight for an extra bonus.
The next hint I will give you is that it is possible to quickly change from your PVE setup to a PVP setup, the key is to carry a mobile depot, this will allow you to change your fit within the mission space.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2015.04.03 22:12:52 -
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Morgoth Galaxius wrote:Thanks for the answers! Especially the notion of not engaging a PVP fit ship with one that's fit for PVE. (I did want to light the suspect up though! ) Quote:edit: for question like this exists an Help channel in EVE. Going to forum onyl gives you stupid answers from stupid people. You might be right, but I was also looking for an 'icebreaker' to get myself involved with the Eve forums.
If you want to learn, i suguest you to go Jita 4-4 and look SpaceWarriors doing their Docking, suspect game. Make yourself an alt and steal from the cans. you learn alot about the timer. the yellow, the blue and the red.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1483
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Posted - 2015.04.03 23:54:03 -
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Feel free to light them up. You may actually win.
Just keep in mind that they WILL be packing either a disruptor, or more commonly a warp scrambler. If you pull the trigger you are committed unless you can shut that down somehow.
Odds are good though that they are relying on having a small signature and a high speed to tip the advantage in their favor when dealing with your mission ship's damage output.
For more details on how this is done I suggest reading this:
http://evedarklord.blogspot.com/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html?view=sidebar
Plenty of info on how it's done there. Now, you try it!
I keep a thoughtgun next to the bed, fully loaded with nerdshot. Just in case.
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Futt Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2015.04.04 02:13:24 -
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If you're in a battleship, they're in a frigate, and you don't have webs,MJD,scram and neuts fitted, don't pull the trigger, unless you want to end up being laughed at in a venue like C&P. |
Faylee Freir
Defining Harassment
Slaver's Union
85
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Posted - 2015.04.04 02:48:49 -
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You mentioned something about his friends coming.. Just want to make it clear that when you shoot someone that is suspect, his friends don't get to agress you without Concord stepping in. I'm glad you chose to be mature about the situation, asking questions instead of crying and demanding nerfs and solitude. Kudos. |
Daerrol
Furtherance.
85
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Posted - 2015.04.04 02:56:05 -
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@OP this is what was happening: http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html
This guide explains exactly what was being done to you, why, and how it works. I would suggest reading it if only to understand Crimewatch mechanics. That said, find a suspect baiter, fit up a disposable PVP ship and go have fun. PVP is the -best- part of this game, and if you are in a ship you can afford to lose, even losing can be fun. |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
1493
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Posted - 2015.04.04 04:14:50 -
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Losing is always fun if you a) aren't married to the ship and b) are looking to learn.
So pro tip: don't get married to a ship and always look to learn 
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2633
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:44:48 -
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Asmodia wrote:Comes from someone that loads in a 500 million ship with t1 antimatter charges. In t2 guns
Confirming that void would have given me sooo much more range. 
Yes, my killboard is failtastic, but it's mine and I love it. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I have almost as much fun losing my failtard fits as I do blowing up other people's. Still, +1 for correct use of the word "noob".
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
A recent survey of applicants to CODE. corporations showed that 100% accepted James 315 as their saviour. You can't argue with facts.
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
980
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Posted - 2015.04.04 11:44:37 -
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OP, no, his corpmates cannot interfere.
However be aware that even if you kill that Frig he will be back in a ship that is more than capable to kill you. And even if it were not he has no risk trying since mission-running ships do not fit a warp disruptor so he can always warp off.
In fact, in a case such as yours always assume your fit has been scanned beforehand and its strenghts and weaknesses (and monetary worth!) are known and will be countered. Every possible dice will be loaded against you.
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2015.04.04 20:01:32 -
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Next time ... go mission in a proper combat ship and wait for him.
He will run as soon as you have an Engagement Timer ...
... and come back in something to kill you.
In the meantime you should approach the warp-in ...
... wait for him and then turn around the experience!
No hate for the baiter... just a thought. (:
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
45
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Posted - 2015.04.04 20:14:04 -
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admiral root wrote:Asmodia wrote:Comes from someone that loads in a 500 million ship with t1 antimatter charges. In t2 guns Confirming that void would have given me sooo much more range. Yes, my killboard is failtastic, but it's mine and I love it. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I have almost as much fun losing my failtard fits as I do blowing up other people's. Still, +1 for correct use of the word "noob".
T2 null gives range. Also i think he is referring to you have a 1/2 ship and using t2 antimatter vs Caldari Navy Antimatter which is good for tracking and used over void against fast things. Way to not take advice and think you know it all tho |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2635
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Posted - 2015.04.04 20:17:13 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:admiral root wrote:Asmodia wrote:Comes from someone that loads in a 500 million ship with t1 antimatter charges. In t2 guns Confirming that void would have given me sooo much more range. Yes, my killboard is failtastic, but it's mine and I love it. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I have almost as much fun losing my failtard fits as I do blowing up other people's. Still, +1 for correct use of the word "noob". T2 null gives range. Also i think he is referring to you have a 1/2 ship and using t2 antimatter vs Caldari Navy Antimatter which is good for tracking and used over void against fast things. Way to not take advice and think you know it all tho
You seem angry. When you calm down, I look forward to you providing anything even vaguely approximating proof that I think I know it all, or anything, for that matter.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
A recent survey of applicants to CODE. corporations showed that 100% accepted James 315 as their saviour. You can't argue with facts.
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
1497
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Posted - 2015.04.04 23:34:33 -
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admiral root wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:admiral root wrote:Asmodia wrote:Comes from someone that loads in a 500 million ship with t1 antimatter charges. In t2 guns Confirming that void would have given me sooo much more range. Yes, my killboard is failtastic, but it's mine and I love it. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I have almost as much fun losing my failtard fits as I do blowing up other people's. Still, +1 for correct use of the word "noob". T2 null gives range. Also i think he is referring to you have a 1/2 ship and using t2 antimatter vs Caldari Navy Antimatter which is good for tracking and used over void against fast things. Way to not take advice and think you know it all tho You seem angry. When you calm down, I look forward to you providing anything even vaguely approximating proof that I think I know it all, or anything, for that matter.
...........you made sense of that?
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Morgoth Galaxius
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:41:23 -
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http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html
Very interesting read! Thanks.
I see now just how dangerous the situation was for me. Initially I thought the danger lied in a mass of hidden friends waiting to pounce once I pulled the trigger. Now I realize that I would have been vaporized by a frigate fit just to pop little old me!
At the time I honestly thought that I could have swatted that pesky gnat if I had wanted to.
All in all, thank you to everyone who has replied. I've learned a few things that will surely come in handy in the future.
Good luck and take care-bear.
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Faylee Freir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2015.04.07 07:20:11 -
[36] - Quote
Morgoth Galaxius wrote:http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html Very interesting read! Thanks. I see now just how dangerous the situation was for me. Initially I thought the danger lied in a mass of hidden friends waiting to pounce once I pulled the trigger. Now I realize that I would have been vaporized by a frigate fit just to pop little old me! At the time I honestly thought that I could have swatted that pesky gnat if I had wanted to. All in all, thank you to everyone who has replied. I've learned a few things that will surely come in handy in the future. Good luck and take care-bear.
Shameless plug here! This is what suspect baiting rewards you with when you pull the trigger.
HTFU
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Kaely Tanniss
Black Hydra Consortium
328
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Posted - 2015.04.07 08:13:33 -
[37] - Quote
Futt Isimazu wrote:If you're in a battleship, they're in a frigate, and you don't have webs,MJD,scram and neuts fitted, don't pull the trigger, unless you want to end up being laughed at in a venue like C&P.
You sound like you say this through experience. 
To the OP, no...their friends can not attack you, but they can use boosts and/or use neutral logi, which will then become suspect too (the logi anyways). Use your gut. If it seems like a trap, it probably is. A lot of people are fooled by the notion that biger is better..then learn a harsh lesson when their shiny mission battlship is popped by a frigate. 
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
160
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Posted - 2015.04.07 09:22:14 -
[38] - Quote
Try attacking a battleship with a frigate irl... In Eve, somehow, smaller is always better because of the tracking tech dating back to Sun Tzu days.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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MonkRage
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.04.07 10:25:38 -
[39] - Quote
Just to state the obvious: there are poeple in frigs who just want to steal your loot because it is more worth than salvage and nine out of ten mission runners dont shoot anyway... |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1489
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Posted - 2015.04.07 10:48:07 -
[40] - Quote
There is that also. You can make a tidy sum in a short amount of time by swiping tags and cherry picking loot.
Any mission with navy npcs tends to be good for straight up ISK, and the loot doesn't take up much space.
The missions with the NPC Zor in them can also score some nice implant drops.
I keep a thoughtgun next to the bed, fully loaded with nerdshot. Just in case.
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Dana Goodeye
Quafe Commandos
Point Blank Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.04.07 11:12:59 -
[41] - Quote
do missions with a vexor navy issue. 2 large shield extenders, a long point, oversized ab, and 3 drone damage mods. and ofc. t1 small drones, as small drone squadron for kill the npc frigs first, then 2 geckos 2 hammers one hob for the dps.
make it cap stab without the long point activated, and it can tank most lvl 4 missions easily, and have pvp capability. with that fit you can pop all incoming flashy asshats =D
omm.. for the ship+fit you will need about 200 mils btw, but eft it out
and yes, never ever engage a pvp ship without any pvp capability on your own.
a frig can easily kill any kind of ships with merd or large guns, or big missiles, if its not a neuter, or a drone boat.
even with a neut you can make a frig uncapable to fight |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Origin.
Black Legion.
2110
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Posted - 2015.04.07 15:18:59 -
[42] - Quote
Morgoth Galaxius wrote:http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/03/carebear-to-killer.html Very interesting read! Thanks. I see now just how dangerous the situation was for me. Initially I thought the danger lied in a mass of hidden friends waiting to pounce once I pulled the trigger. Now I realize that I would have been vaporized by a frigate fit just to pop little old me! At the time I honestly thought that I could have swatted that pesky gnat if I had wanted to. All in all, thank you to everyone who has replied. I've learned a few things that will surely come in handy in the future. Good luck and take care-bear.
Now, if you in turn one day ask yourself the question....'I wonder if *I* can do that to someone else?', and you fit an assault frig and give this a try, then the real beauty inherent in the EvE sandbox will have been revealed to you, and your progression to the dark side...er...pvp will be complete.
I quote William Wallace...
"Fight and you may die. (PVE) and you will live, at least awhile.
And dying (from boredom) in your (ice belt) many years from now,
would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance,
just one chance, to come back here as young (newbies) and tell (the pansies)
that they may (nerf hisec pvp mechanics) but they will never take your freedom!"
F
Would you like to know more?
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
296
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:27:13 -
[43] - Quote
I've heard legend tell of space-groups that teach these things... who knows, maybe they're recruiting!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1586
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:36:46 -
[44] - Quote
Ima Wreckyou wrote:Just shoot him, it's just a frigate
as i say in such cases: if you need your opponent to make mistake or be stupid you'd better rethink your strategy
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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MonkRage
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.04.08 08:30:39 -
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March rabbit wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Just shoot him, it's just a frigate as i say in such cases: if you need your opponent to make mistake or be stupid you'd better rethink your strategy
You always need your opponent to make a mistake or be stupid on some level in order to kill him |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
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Posted - 2015.04.08 12:15:07 -
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To OP:
Congrats, you have taken your first step on the PeeVeePee road.
While there is what is called 'mission baiting', ie, what that guy in the frigate tried to do to you, there is also a little hobby called 'ambush missioning'.
This is where you fit up a ship for PVP and pretend to be doing the missions.
And when I say 'pretend' , yes, you are popping the rats, taking the loots, etc, but that isn't why you are actually there...
As an example, I give to you the Humble Dominix. It is a crafty beast, and is easily set up for PVP while retaining its PVE-ness.
You will need sentry drones (t2 preferred), large energy neuts, 2 webs, and a scram/point. Microjumpdrives are mandatory.
A reasonable loadout of t2 light combat drones (Warrior 2's are traditional, but now they are all dangerous...) is also recommended.
Also, there is the the old, and effective, Honey Trap Boat.
This is a pure mission boat. It missions. It lures. Them. In.
And when you get a customer who lands in your mission (and then proceeds to go Suspect.....), why, yes, you act like an enraged mission bear and shoot him. And when he chuckles and lands the scram.......
That's when your 5 fleetmates land on grid (or decloak) and proceed to take the poor boy to school.
Who knows?
He may even pay a ransom.....
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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