| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Atlas Xadi
Black Innocence
0
   |
Posted - 2015.04.06 17:41:54 -
[1] - Quote
Hey Guys,
i am just starting to get some PvP experience, so i am a pvp noob. Once weekly i take part in a frigate low sec roam, but besides i am trying it solo.
My Skills are concentrated on amarr t1 and t2 frigates at the moment but i can also fly all other races t1 frigates at lvl4 (just lacking of specific weapon skills for them). I have checked several requests and threads over the internet but amarr frigates are commonly less or not mentioned there.
So i am asking you guys now for any recommendations for ships and fittings.
How i get my fights till now:
Roaming the FW low sec and scanning the plexes to find victims in t1 frigates with my Punishers and Navy Slicers.
[Navy Slicer]
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Small Anci Armor Repper, Nanite Repair Paste
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Small Focused Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Pretty much a standard kite fit, but feels kinda not working with my active hunting style. Would probably work better when waiting in a plex for incoming enemies.
[Punisher]
Small Ancillary Armor Repper, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
200mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I
1MN Aferburner II
JB5 Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S (or Conflagion S or Imperial Navy Multis)
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Durability seems okay for me but the damage and cap are a bit lacking.
Problem is most enemies escape from me or i get f*cked up by Tristan or Incursus Brawlers.
I am asking for ship and fitting recommendations, but i am also open for tipps on tactics, hunting strategies, etc. |
Paranoid Loyd
4544
|
Posted - 2015.04.06 17:46:05 -
[2] - Quote
Chessur certainly makes flying a slicer look easy. There's some good advice and tips in his videos.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
|
Daemun Khanid
Sanctus Imperialis
67
|
Posted - 2015.04.06 18:58:27 -
[3] - Quote
3 Locus rigs seems a bit overkill. Only use would be kiting beyond 24km with your point overheated and hoping that you're outside your opponents range completely and that you can get the kill before you burn out your point. It might make a nice fit for pvp video's where the opponent never gets the chance to apply dps but if you come across anything faster than you (fed navy comet) or you don't have the range from the onset of the fight you'll be lacking in dps and reps to keep up. Some may dissagree but I'd recommend a damage rig and rep rig.
And forget the punisher for solo roams. 2 mid slots make for a crap brawler setup. Web/scram passive tanked Tormentors are a much better option.
Daemun of Khanid
|
Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel
The Asylum.
767
|
Posted - 2015.04.06 21:23:15 -
[4] - Quote
Here's some Amarr T1 frigate fits I fly in FW low:
[Tormentor, Rhea Scram Kite (Wow)]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Heat Sink II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Energy Burst Aerator I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Hobgoblin II x2
Tank is abit thin but massive dps.
[Executioner, PvP Long Point Ab]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Heat Sink II
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Warp Disruptor I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared S
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared S
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared S
[Empty High slot]
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
This one looks abit weird but it's basically an anti-ab brawler fit. Executioner is naturally very fast and most brawlers/scram kiters can't hit past 10km, with this fit you pull range to about 18km where you can still apply 100dps and heat the web and use it defensively as they try approach you. It also has a good chance to chase kiters away since you can apply dps to 20km well. It will lose miserably to Mwd/Scram/Web brawlers though but those are actually very uncommon in lowsec.
[Crucifier, PvP Solo]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Tracking Disruptor II, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Warrior II x3
Hobgoblin II x3
Hobgoblin II x3
Scram kiter with a TD, can also easily beat/push off any turret based long point kiters, very fun ship but is a little tougher to fly well.
[Magnate, PvP]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hobgoblin II x3
Having trouble getting fights? Fly a Magnate and everything will fight you! Extremely unexpected but actually a very powerful frigate considering it gets no combat bonus. It's once again a scram kite ship, gets 160dps at the edge of scram range (which is actually very respectable), decent speed and decent tank.
I didn't include the Punisher cause it's really lackluster for solo, 2 mids means it can't really hold anything down and it's also slow which makes it even worse. If you like the Punisher and really want to fly it, I suggest a kiting fit to catch people offguard since it's actually not too bad in a kiting setup (like a crappier Slicer) and it makes up for the lack of 3 mids. Something like this:
[Punisher, PvP Kite?]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Heat Sink II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet S
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet S
Small Focused Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet S
[Empty High slot]
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
That's it, hope it's helpful. If you have more questions shoot me a mail in-game. |
Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel
The Asylum.
769
|
Posted - 2015.04.07 03:58:55 -
[5] - Quote
Here are some other good fits too:
[Tormentor, PvP Brick]
Heat Sink II
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Warrior II x2
Tanky brawler, a little slow, but excellent tank and dps and can project to 9km with Scorch. However its very tight on fittings so you need almost perfect skills to fit it or you can give up the nano pump for another ancillary current router.
[Executioner, Tackler]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Dual Light Pulse Laser II
Dual Light Pulse Laser II
Dual Light Pulse Laser II
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Here is a tackle Executioner for use in gangs, it's quite fast, scram web for holding targets down. Hull tank cause that's the best way to get some buffer on your fit to actually survive for your reps to kick in while not giving up any speed and retaining full tackle. Also good for mwd gangs where you just dogpile onto targets.
That's covered most of the fits I'd run with the Amarr T1 lineup. |
Atlas Xadi
Black Innocence
0
|
Posted - 2015.04.07 08:26:03 -
[6] - Quote
Thanks a lot to you guys so far, especially to Dato Koppla.
That's a lot of ships und fitting suggestions and it will take me some time to try them out, but i am looking forward to it.
I will write down some of my impressions here later.
Thanks again and fly safe. |
Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel
The Asylum.
775
|
Posted - 2015.04.08 03:10:54 -
[7] - Quote
Atlas Xadi wrote:Thanks a lot to you guys so far, especially to Dato Koppla.
That's a lot of ships und fitting suggestions and it will take me some time to try them out, but i am looking forward to it.
I will write down some of my impressions here later.
Thanks again and fly safe.
No worries mate. If you want help on solo tactics or how to fly these ships and strategies etc just ask questions here or you can hit me up with an in-game mail if you prefer. |
Doji Okakura
287
|
Posted - 2015.04.09 16:01:26 -
[8] - Quote
Personally not a big fan of amarr frigs for solo pvp, tho the slicer does get the job done. |
GordonO
Evil Guinea Pigs
107
|
Posted - 2015.04.10 00:54:16 -
[9] - Quote
go check out the eveiseasy youtube channel, there is a vid on a 20day old amarr pvp pilot, and some others
EVGP Is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=412227
|
Boci
Ubiquitous Hurt
19
|
Posted - 2015.04.12 16:38:04 -
[10] - Quote
To confirm Dato's posts, the answer to almost every "what amarr frigate do I use for pvp" question is Tormentor 
Except kiting. Kiting not so much.
Posting from phone so cant copy fittings over, but if you feel like you can eve mail me and I can send you in game fittings for pretty much every version I have flown. I freaking love the Tormentor in low sec.
Dual reps, brick tank, standard pulse pew pew, beam torm...so good.
http://www.twitch.tv/bociwen - Newbie Friendly Q&A, Terrible Solo PvP
@BociSammiches
UHURT's Link Guy
|
Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel
The Asylum.
783
|
Posted - 2015.04.13 01:09:46 -
[11] - Quote
Yeah Tormentor is generally the best option for Amarr T1 frigate PvP. 3 mids + 4 lows + 2 drones gives it alot of versatility in terms of dps, tackle and tank options. It doesn't get a utility highslot but 3 midslots is far more valuable than a utility highslot in lowsec FW frigate warfare (I'm looking at you, Retribution, Slicer, Wolf and Punisher).
However Executioner is definitely underrated, it's got excellent cap stats, respectable dps and quite good fitting as well. Most importantly it's very fast which can win you alot of fights if you know how to use the speed. I've had great success with the ab + long point fit I posted above, it's abit unconventional so it catches people offguard but it's has a wide engagement range as well as alot of GTFO ability. |
Noir Ruda
The Red Scarfs
10
|
Posted - 2015.04.13 07:18:42 -
[12] - Quote
The Slicer is defently the fav frigate right now.
I mostly fly beamslicers but also started out with pulse.
Most of the time I think beams on a slicer are far better than pulse.
The range is way better and the volleydamage also.
With the speed I get like 3.9 km/s w/o heat or imps.
My staying power in fleet battles is also
amazing that combined with a shooting range of up to 50 km
Downside is someone who can close in fast to you is a pain
the cap issues you will have after a short time
and the aditional manually piloting you will have to do to get smash hits.
I am at phone so can't post a fit will post one later. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
187
|
Posted - 2015.04.13 08:52:17 -
[13] - Quote
Slicers are not good for solo because everyone knows your fit the moment they see you on dscan.
Chessur's vids are all from nullsec with idiots who charge into 160 dps scorch in paper ceptors. We should all be so lucky.
|
Noir Ruda
The Red Scarfs
10
|
Posted - 2015.04.13 11:48:52 -
[14] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Slicers are not good for solo because everyone knows your fit the moment they see you on dscan.
Chessur's vids are all from nullsec with idiots who charge into 160 dps scorch in paper ceptors. We should all be so lucky.
Not good? Yeah for sure flyn slicer isn't as easy as it looks when chessur is showing it. Especially his fit doesn't allow much error margin.
But bad for solo I can tell that is not true. I mostly fly slicers solo and got vy now over 300 kills with it and most of them where solo. |
Ashlar Vellum
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
171
|
Posted - 2015.04.13 12:57:21 -
[15] - Quote
Noir Ruda wrote:The Slicer is defently the fav frigate right now.
I mostly fly beamslicers but also started out with pulse.
Most of the time I think beams on a slicer are far better than pulse.
The range is way better and the volleydamage also.
With the speed I get like 3.9 km/s w/o heat or imps.
My staying power in fleet battles is also
amazing that combined with a shooting range of up to 50 km
Downside is someone who can close in fast to you is a pain
the cap issues you will have after a short time
and the aditional manually piloting you will have to do to get smash hits.
I am at phone so can't post a fit will post one later.
Interesting fit, but why the ultraviolet? |
Noir Ruda
The Red Scarfs
10
|
Posted - 2015.04.13 13:47:17 -
[16] - Quote
Ashlar Vellum wrote:Noir Ruda wrote:The Slicer is defently the fav frigate right now.
I mostly fly beamslicers but also started out with pulse.
Most of the time I think beams on a slicer are far better than pulse.
The range is way better and the volleydamage also.
With the speed I get like 3.9 km/s w/o heat or imps.
My staying power in fleet battles is also
amazing that combined with a shooting range of up to 50 km
Downside is someone who can close in fast to you is a pain
the cap issues you will have after a short time
and the aditional manually piloting you will have to do to get smash hits.
I am at phone so can't post a fit will post one later. Interesting fit, but why the ultraviolet?
Anti slicer for example to get two or three good shots in before they do and then dive in to hold point. Gamma is for slow brawler where I can easly dictate range or kiters that work on the same range. X-ray for faster brawler where you need to be on your toes for slingshots. Gleam for close drones or for emergency when getting caught. Aurora to make damage when you fight on far range and gettin to close might kill ya like caracals Or killin off escaping enemys. Ultra violett can somtimes be useful if targets attempt an escape.
Edit: Also if I am undertracking disruptor with optimal range script it helps. |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
269
|
Posted - 2015.04.16 22:31:16 -
[17] - Quote
chessur nr1 slicer killer in eve, so many slicers died cause they thought they could do what he does |
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |