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Enigma Dose
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Posted - 2003.11.04 22:17:00 -
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For those of you who are curious as I was I found the story from a source within Biomass who told me what happend. This is that story retold to you in a historical sort of format. Read if interested spare me the rolly eye comments  . I may look to give you more such storys in the future but they take a lot of teeth pulling so will see. Feedback welcome and i think it teach's a good lesson about biomass boy did i loose even more respect for them after this. Though the member whom said he was actually a mole for biomass whom i agreed to remain nameless (that's your problem biomass sorry i need my story) said he had a plan to do some major finacial damage so i take solice in that  . Anyway enjoy the story I got i know i did. Comments welcome!!!
The Rise and fall of the PLD (Paladins of the Red Skull)
The Paladins of the Red Skull were one of the original pirate corps after release in the EVE universe. They occupied the Northern most territories along with M3G4 and smaller pirate corporations such as Ronin and The keepers of the Blue flame who walked the line between pirate and non-pirate. Under the Command of Myrmax Ceo the Paladins quickly grew a name for themselves with Algazara eventually becoming their most well known fighter accumulating at one time the highest actual bounty in the EVE universe. The PLD quickly became a well-known pirate corp. in the northern territories of EVE. Then as quickly as they grew they fell and for those inquiring minds this is the account if their story from a first hand source.
The Beginning
OBE a notorious playground for pirates and pirate hunters alike. In this atmosphere the fledgling pirate corporation Paladins of the Red Skull (ticker PLD) slowly gain membership and power under the leadership of Myrmax CEO. As the power balance begins to sort itself out among the smaller corporations the PLD quickly becomes one of the dominant powers in the area along with M3G4. Lucifer also at this time has a corporation, which comes and goes which gives rise to Ronin. These three powers through napÆs and wars fight for power in the area. The first of these corporations to fall would be the Ronin. With Ronin CEO Chandragupta unable to be found for many weeks the members of the Ronin come to an agreement with the PLD and merge into the PLD. This greatly balances power in the region at the time and leaves only M3G4 and the PLD to decide who would have control of this area. This battle eventually comes to a head with Smoked and Myrmax finally agreeing to a cease-fire and eventually an NAP.
The Battle for Venal
Then Enter the Battle for Venal. Pirates and non-pirates alike form together to face the common foe of the Fountain Alliance. M3G4 and the PLD join the VA or Vale Alliance as it was called at the time to fight against the FA. After the FA dealt the forces of VA some very hard blows the VA finally decided to find a way out. This way out was to banish TTI and in doing so created the NA and the NVA. M3G4 and PLD sided with the NA and waged civil war against the NVA. However, in due time it was found that TTI would not support this effort and the PLD pulled out to pursue their own agenda. M3G4 would remain for a short time until the FA eventually overcame them and they pulled out fearing more losses. After leaving the NA and having it collapse the PLD and M3G4 remained allies in a loose alliance, this loose alliance would eventually grow into the alliance, which today is known as the Forsaken Alliance.
The Beginning of the End
After Venal ended the focus of the PLD moved to strengthen their fleet. Under one of their CEOÆs Cao Cao they began mining operations in the Silent Vale where there are no stations and thusly less competition for rare minerals. They grew very proficient at this and the money began to roll in. Then more corps were merged into the PLD and on the surface all seemed well but only on the surface. Inside the corporation an internal struggle to take over the corporation began headed by cao cao. He looked to use his advantage of taking charge of mining operations to full fill his own goals. This lead to some minor instability within the PLD and Opened the door for a newly formed Biomass to unleash their plan to take over the Forsaken alliance and claim the northern territories as their own.
The Wolf in SheepÆs Clothing
Little known to the PLD higher ups at the time the corporation of Biomass was looking to attempt to seize power for their own in the Forsaken Alliance to control the Alliance. So Biomass began to recruit the members of the fellow corporations in the alliance. This led to Algazara the PLDÆs most feared pilot leaving the PLD only to quit once joining biomass. Also at this time a splinter corp. of PLD was formed and the Paladins lost Skull, Zarthan, and Falconwraith, which were three of their more senior pilots. At this time the CEO of PL
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Enigma Dose
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Posted - 2003.11.04 22:18:00 -
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At this time the CEO of PLD was looking to turn the corporation around and start over again, much as Smoked had done after being robbed blind by his own corp. members. Also at this time after being confronted Cao Cao stole many of the PLDÆs blueprints and quit the game taking much of the PLD wealth with him. Thusly Biomass opened the door to have the weakened PLD join them. Myrmax accepted the idea, however this was not to be the end of this story.
The Assimilation of the PLD
Unknown to Myrmax CEO this decision to join biomass due to their reputation as exploiters and improper pirates or ôgreifersö if you will, lead to Chandragupta attempting to save the PLD by taking over as CEO after returning to the EVE universe. With Chandragupta as CEO many of the better pilots of the PLD remained much to the dismay of biomass. Now the Forsaken Alliance was made up of PLD, Circe, Biomass, 10kad, Scenties and the small corporations of Tundragon and Reaver. However Biomass looked to attempt to take control of the alliance and with Chandragupta saving PLD biomass took a new approach to diplomacy. Without informing itÆs fellow alliance members Biomass declared PLD, Reaver, and Scenties kicked from the alliance and placed on KOS. This was unless of course they choose to join Biomass and then they would be spared. This was a cleaver ploy by Biomass to attempt to force the members to join them or be destroyed. Under this threat and with weakened forces the smaller corporations had no choice but to join biomass under threat or to rebel against biomass by joining one of the other strong corporations in protest to biomassÆs actions.
The PLD Today
After the hostile takeover of the PLD by Biomass in order to gain power and seize control of the Forsaken Alliance as their own, PLD was no more. Now PLD remains only a shell of the corporation it once was. The improper pirates using underhanded tactics against their own allies have seized control. PLD does today exist but not as a pirate corporation and may someday rise back to power in some way shape or form. Biomass continues its attempt to control the north with space Invaders and several new corporations, which it now attempts to command or take over. However, Those corporations may not know that they are being manipulated by biomass and that biomass only wishes to do as they did with the PLD and assimilate them into their own. To those corporations based on the account I was given I say be wary of whom you trust. The PLD may be no more but their story is one of a lesson hopefully not repeated
The End hurray youg et a beer for reading that (do i get one for typing it hmmm) Feedback welcome I'd say there is a good lesson their.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.11.04 23:03:00 -
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Nice try
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 23:23:00 -
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Couple of points and couple of questions.
1. M3G4 played no part in the 2nd FA/VA war. It was VA + TTI vs FA. M3G4 at that time was a universally derided joke of a pirate corporation and the VA captains including Space Invaders had nothing but distain for their antics. I do remember Algazara and Cao Cao suggesting we ask M3G4 for help, but the suggestion was laughed off the dancefloor ...
2. After the ejection of TTI on the night of Ragnar's aquisition and deployment of the infamous "magic hat"; FA military involvement was relatively limited ... and in the war that followed the NVA ousted the NA with primarily homegrown forces; finally winning the conflict with M3G4 locked in a station and cutting their own throats, and TTI coming to ceasefire terms.
Question 1.
(the obvious one)
Who are you? I think to place an account on public record requires a name to gain credibility.
Question 2.
Is the basic accusation here that Biomass are after a single monolithic pirate corp under their own control and have no time for allied corps?
Love and peace
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.11.04 23:42:00 -
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"Is the basic accusation here that Biomass are after a single monolithic pirate corp under their own control and have no time for allied corps?"
I think that's pretty clear.
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Enigma Dose
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Posted - 2003.11.05 00:52:00 -
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Sorry if some of the information is incorrect but I was working as a third party. Not sure what nice try is about maybe you know something the person i talked to didn't? I sure would like to here more.
As for question one i am who it says i am. As for public records if ever decide to join another corp to play mutliple facets of the game it'd be harder when everyone know's yoru the same person. So just as i'm sure most of you wouldnt want to give out all your info jade i'll refrain from that. I can assure you thou that i have no offiliation with the parties involved but did live near the northern territories so naturally when a big corp disapears for those who enjoy the game it makes you wonder why. As for why i went so far it was merely because i had never seen anyone do so.
As far as question two, based on the information i was given i'd say it would seem to be the case. I mean they did steal members from allied corps and then run their own allies out of their alliances. Seems a bit silly to me but then again i'm sure anyone who reads these forums ever would notice biomass isnt all that smart when it comes to diplomacy it would seem. Also before you biomass people get all up in arms i'm not saying you are a bunch of hill billy morons. I'm merely stating politically your at trite bit lacking in that department.
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Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.11.05 00:52:00 -
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Nice spin to to perceived events from a so called biomass insider.
M3G4 was never a part of the VA.
Personal from PLD Asked to join Biomass Cartel. Key word is asked. Completely different from engima's statement.
Plus being a part of alliance is not just having a namesake its doing something together or for a goal. This point is driven home repeatedly by jade. Just curious how this alt created to post only twice in its entire history can concock such a dumb story that doesnt even coincide with events that happened. Pld members asked to join Biomass Cartel stating they didnt like the way things were going in there previous corp.
How is this gunpoint requesting? We didnt force other people to join us that would be foolish. Actually most people ask how to join or who do i talk to. So enigma go delete yourself and create a new alt.
Ohh yeah and end yourself.
Anybody have question why a member joined biomass cartel send a convo to them. You will find most people did it because they WANTED to and the othere well they are just the informants passing apparently useless information.
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Enjoy the game, I know I am
Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya pod
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Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.11.05 00:54:00 -
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ahh a third post from a mis informed alt
such heroics in the word battle.
Enjoy the game, I know I am
Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya pod
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2003.11.05 07:01:00 -
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Sorry if some of the information is incorrect but I was working as a third party. Not sure what nice try is about maybe you know something the person i talked to didn't? I sure would like to here more.
As for question one i am who it says i am. As for public records if ever decide to join another corp to play mutliple facets of the game it'd be harder when everyone know's yoru the same person. So just as i'm sure most of you wouldnt want to give out all your info jade i'll refrain from that. I can assure you thou that i have no offiliation with the parties involved but did live near the northern territories so naturally when a big corp disapears for those who enjoy the game it makes you wonder why. As for why i went so far it was merely because i had never seen anyone do so.
As far as question two, based on the information i was given i'd say it would seem to be the case. I mean they did steal members from allied corps and then run their own allies out of their alliances. Seems a bit silly to me but then again i'm sure anyone who reads these forums ever would notice biomass isnt all that smart when it comes to diplomacy it would seem. Also before you biomass people get all up in arms i'm not saying you are a bunch of hill billy morons. I'm merely stating politically your at trite bit lacking in that department.
This is a joke right? Either you are a total ass or trying for the best Troll in a forum award. Biomass Cartel does not force people to join it. If we did---we know how to do a mechainic not even implemented in this game other than as a trade good called slaves.
Do you honestly think that the members we have are FORCED to be with us or that we STEAL members? Have you even played Eve?
I love the press and controversy even if it's bad, but this has to be the most inane post ever. 
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Eneroth
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Posted - 2003.11.05 07:12:00 -
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to fill Cao Cao'sown goals???
Man he was fair with the mining ops and he has quit playing Evecuz he said he was to adicted to eve and his grade were going down so he just left the game. And cao cao was one of the key persons in PLD. And 1 or 2 weeks before cao cao left PLD there were another key person that left PLD cuz he didnt want so much responibility i belive.
Sothe CEO and the remaining key persons decided to emerge with BM-C which was fine by me cuz they were very active.
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Kailshade
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Posted - 2003.11.05 07:28:00 -
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True or false either way I liked the story.
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ChandraGupta
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Posted - 2003.11.05 08:35:00 -
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True to an extent.
I attribute our demise to the sudden mass recruitment program started by myrmax and algazara...
they thought bigger was better i thought quality was better.
In the end we had people in the corp that didnt really give a **** about the corp and lots of moles.
Lots of people who wanted to take over.
Well... when some outsiders say that the house was in chaos .. well they struck while the iron was red hot
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Ch'ryl
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:01:00 -
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There's always one isn't there. Can't argue rationally and has to resort to foul language in frustration at his own lack of vocabulary.
A corp mate got a warning from the mods for trying to get round the profanity filter by using an * so I am sure this deserves something a little sterner than a smack on the hand email to say don't do it again.
Why is it that when someone tells you that there are over a billion stars in the universe, you believe them, but if they tell you there is wet paint somewhere, you have to touch it to make sure? |
Orestes
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:10:00 -
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Keep the thread flame-less or don't keep it at all.
Thank you.
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Jezzebell
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:19:00 -
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There's always one isn't there. Can't argue rationally and has to resort to foul language in frustration at his own lack of vocabulary.
Funny, from the logs and screenshots i've seen of Jade.. she's usually the one who can't argue rationally and resorts to all kinds of verbal abuse. :)
Either that, or she goes into pseudo-intellectual mode.. Or should i say modus operandi, in order to come across as more of an intellectual?
Oh wait, i'm going up a culdesac now...
*Cough*
Anyway, did you know Biomass is still backstabbing their own Alliance members even today?Since last week 10KAD are KoS by the entire Dark Alliance..
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:29:00 -
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Where did he write that, it certainly wasnt on this thread, I really do hope I am not going blind at such an age.
I dont believe for a minute that Paladians were bullied into joining Biomass, as said above they joined because key players left and the organization collapsed.
As far as trying to get the other corps in the then "Forsaken Alliance", thats pure Bull too....we at TunDraGon have never heard of such a thing.
BTW. This mole, your uninformed informat, did he just join Biomass lastnight
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:35:00 -
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Jezzebell, you should not comment on things you do not understand, furthermore I am not going to enlighten you on any corps standing within the Dark Empire. For the basic fact that you are a noob, which means you do not have a clue either way, or this is an alts post and therefore you deserve no respect at all for your cowardly actions.
Bye Bye Jezzebell...go Delete, in 5hrs you can pretend this never happened.
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Jezzebell
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:48:00 -
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Channelname: Local
Listener: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Session started: 2003.11.03 23:54:08
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[ 2003.11.03 23:59:57 ] Baylan Kramax > Merc
[ 2003.11.04 00:00:00 ] Baylan Kramax > this is vadar
[ 2003.11.04 00:00:30 ] Ananaki > and so is this
[ 2003.11.04 00:00:40 ] Ananaki > why u firing at allies?
[ 2003.11.04 00:01:25 ] Narayan Diesel > we have orders that 10k ad are KOS
[ 2003.11.04 00:01:25 ] merckiller > 10k ad is kos as of this morning
[ 2003.11.04 00:01:48 ] Baylan Kramax > why?
[ 2003.11.04 00:02:01 ] Narayan Diesel > ask lilan and ac3s
[ 2003.11.04 00:02:24 ] Baylan Kramax > what did they do?
[ 2003.11.04 00:02:43 ] Narayan Diesel > we cannot say anymore atm
[ 2003.11.04 00:02:48 ] Narayan Diesel > so sorry
[ 2003.11.04 00:02:57 ] Baylan Kramax > np
[ 2003.11.04 00:03:16 ] Baylan Kramax > used aint killed my alts but i dont want hostilities with u guys
[ 2003.11.04 00:03:20 ] Baylan Kramax > im leaving 10kad
[ 2003.11.04 00:03:42 ] merckiller > ok
[ 2003.11.04 00:03:56 ] Narayan Diesel > yes come join us here in bio please
[ 2003.11.04 00:04:25 ] Ananaki > ok
Incidently, Vadar Kramax is now a member of Biomass.Oh and the quote unquote 'Incident' with ac3s and lilan is spindoctoring.We, members of the DA were given strict orders to pod high profile 10KAD members days before that happened.
Its just another one of Bio's hostile takeovers.They riddle your corp with spies, continuously pod kill your most active members and blame it on derelict bug, or just go 'oops'
Then as a final death blow they declare you KoS to the whole alliance (or whats left of it)But don't tell you about it. . as you can see, Narayan let it slip.
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Jezzebell
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:51:00 -
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Yes i am an alt, i cannot reveal my true identity at this stage as i'm still a member of one of the major DA corps.I'll stick around for a while, if after 10KAD we are the next target, i will go solo.. expect an eve-mail heading your way with my real name.
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Starbrow
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:54:00 -
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1: I liked the story, good research.
2: Some of what he says is defenetly true. Bio often tryes to recruit from its alliance members, and often people join them. I'm also quite sure that it has happened before that Bio has forced people to join them or die
@Bio: Feel free to flame and threaten me I dont give a frank. i know what I know and you certainly wont make me believe anything that you claim.
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Starbrow
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Posted - 2003.11.05 11:00:00 -
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And yes i can also only confirm that we 10kad are KOS with Bio. And I know the reason for it:
Bio has often as you say killed some of our members and blamed the derelict bug or said that the didnt know we are allies. The point of putting us on KOS came when Bio shoot at some more allies, ac3s (at least i think it was her) warped in and shoot warningshots at Bio. And now we are KOS... Not that we care that much...
But yes it has been going on for a while and Im sure it will continue for a while...
Flame away
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Starbrow
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Posted - 2003.11.05 11:00:00 -
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And yes i can also only confirm that we 10kad are KOS with Bio. And I know the reason for it:
Bio has often as you say killed some of our members and blamed the derelict bug or said that the didnt know we are allies. The point of putting us on KOS came when Bio shoot at some more allies, ac3s (at least i think it was her) warped in and shoot warningshots at Bio. And now we are KOS... Not that we care that much...
But yes it has been going on for a while and Im sure it will continue for a while...
Flame away
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Starbrow
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Posted - 2003.11.05 11:01:00 -
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Sry about the double post...
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2003.11.05 11:28:00 -
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Quote:
And yes i can also only confirm that we 10kad are KOS with Bio. And I know the reason for it:
Bio has often as you say killed some of our members and blamed the derelict bug or said that the didnt know we are allies. The point of putting us on KOS came when Bio shoot at some more allies, ac3s (at least i think it was her) warped in and shoot warningshots at Bio. And now we are KOS... Not that we care that much...
But yes it has been going on for a while and Im sure it will continue for a while...
Flame away
Looks like biomice and friends is coming apart at the seams. That didn't last long did it. Imagine that though, a pirate alliance that ended up self destructing. Who woulda guessed?
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2003.11.05 12:05:00 -
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Post the whole story.
Ac3s was ransoming someone who was on Biomass Kos list, when a member of Biomass opened fire on the ransomee (forget his/her name), Ac3s began firing on the Biomass officer.
The way I look on things, the fault here lies on Crusaders feet and not Biomass.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2003.11.05 12:13:00 -
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well, we kind had the deal wokred out and we had both sides argeeing on forgeting what ac3s did, so any way i just takeing my small ship for a spin near venal, when i get asked to joina gang whit some biomice, and asked to warped toa gate abut some trubel, soon after i am warp scrambeled, and they start to open fire on me and i shoot back only to get the reply "it sucks to be shoot while in gang", sos oon after i get told that i shoot first.
What kinda of moron dose biomice think i am takeing on 2 bs's alone and cut of from the rest of my corp??
makes sense, and no biomass you may have gotten vadar to join your side once more but the rest of us wil not leave 10kad, we saw the death treats you gave pld, scenite and reaver them joining or dieing
-lilan out-
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.11.05 12:31:00 -
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har har har.
I love the biomice thing BTW.
Back to subject, biomice have no honour , get over it.
But they now seem to have over 100 members WTF.
PPl join them with their eyes shut or something.
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.11.05 12:38:00 -
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well, we kind had the deal wokred out and we had both sides argeeing on forgeting what ac3s did, so any way i just takeing my small ship for a spin near venal, when i get asked to joina gang whit some biomice, and asked to warped toa gate abut some trubel, soon after i am warp scrambeled, and they start to open fire on me and i shoot back only to get the reply "it sucks to be shoot while in gang", sos oon after i get told that i shoot first.
What kinda of moron dose biomice think i am takeing on 2 bs's alone and cut of from the rest of my corp??
makes sense, and no biomass you may have gotten vadar to join your side once more but the rest of us wil not leave 10kad, we saw the death treats you gave pld, scenite and reaver them joining or dieing
-lilan out-
how very wrong you are about the scenites.
I was one of them before joining biomass. we never had any death threats. We had one of our BS at the time destroyed then kicked, but to be honest i dont realy blame them, Scenites arent a pirate corp and so cant really engage in the day-to-day activities that the rest of the pirate corps do, unless its mining.
please ppl get your information correct before posting, otherwise you just look like an a$$
Lord Guerdo
Biomass Cartel
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |
Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2003.11.05 12:40:00 -
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dude i talked to your old ceo, you know the one that wasnt loged on for a while...
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.11.05 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Guerdo on 05/11/2003 12:43:00
yup your right he wasnt so his accounts of the situation are only what ppl tell him
I know for a fact we didnt receive death threats as i was constantly in channel and confering with diesel about the situation of scenites. So before you think you know it all think again
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |
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