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Rawketsled
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Posted - 2015.04.13 06:59:36 -
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If you feel the need to prevent the false promise of pricing on the market, I'd like to hear you thoughts on the false promise of see selling you a Navy Issue Megathron when I open a trade window with you.
As the Good Malcanis has said; it's not an exploit.
You believe the market to be full of promises - that's your mistake. |

Rawketsled
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Posted - 2015.04.15 09:45:41 -
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The game doesn't need fixing. Player ignorance needs fixing. That's what CCP needs to fix.
Margin Trading wrote:Ability to make potentially risky investments work in your favor. Each level of skill reduces the percentage of ISK placed in market escrow when entering buy orders. Starting with an escrow percentage of 100% at Level 0 (untrained skill), each skill level cumulatively reduces the percentage by 25%. This will bring your total escrow down to approximately 24% at level 5.
This skill cannot be trained on Trial Accounts.
To be fair, the Margin Trading skill doesn't explain that margin trades will fail on empty wallets. CCP doesn't need to explain the consequence of it; merely the facts. Let players piece things together themselves.
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Rawketsled
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Posted - 2015.04.15 13:58:53 -
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X Seven wrote:As it seems not many in this thread like what I am trying to do. The basic, mere basic of risk is one sided on this issue. When I say one sided I mean there is 0 risk for the buyer when done correctly. 0 risk for the buyer. His name isn't given out, he is protected. No one knows who he is. There can be no retaliation against him. He is more protected than anyone else in this game. Call me greedy all you want but the guys doing the buy orders with ultimate protection are just as greedy as anyone else in this game. The Buyer has 0 risk against them. The person many of you are defending has no risk in this game. We all talk a good game about risk but risk should go both ways. I want to know who is screwing me over when I get screwed over. If this is market pvp then I want it like ship pvp. I want to know who didn't take the order. Who took their money out of their wallet. If you lose your ship I guarantee you are looking at that combat log. Looking to see who killed you. I bet that combat log has the names of those who just shot you. Well the guys who sell to these buyers don't get that. Don't start with the sellers because that is a different toon that does that. We know the names of the toons we buy from. If a buy order is issued whether it goes through or not you should at least get the name of the toon. That would be risk on the buyers part. I would be happy if they had at least some risk in this game instead of being fully protected and anonymous. But there is risk.
The scammer has just spent broker's fees... non-refundable broker's fees. These fees scale in proportion to how overpriced the items asked for are. They've committed an amount of money to initiate the scam. If nobody bites, that's money lost.
Further, if nobody bites, they may have an item nobody is going to buy off them. Margin Trading scams are often done on low-velocity items. These are items that are rarely sold because they're both; crap, and hard to acquire.
So, there is risk. It's just not the risk you happen to want. |

Rawketsled
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Posted - 2015.04.15 21:36:21 -
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X Seven wrote:Very little risk at all. Ooooooooo brokers fees. Its too risky.... CCP has a song written for you. |
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