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Jake Kreuger
S.T.A.R.S Command
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:03:51 -
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Hi, Ive always wanted to try PvP In a battleship and ill normally be in a small gang and was wondering if this for would work well enough? Thanks.
[Scorpion Navy Issue, Scorpion Navy Issue: PvP] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Empty
Stasis Webifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II 100MN Microwarpdrive II Domination Warp Disruptor Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Hobgoblin II Vespa EC-600 |

Jake Kreuger
S.T.A.R.S Command
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:11:35 -
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I also have this fit.
[Scorpion Navy Issue, PvP] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Co-Processor II
Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 100MN Microwarpdrive I Target Painter II
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Hobgoblin II Hammerhead II |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:55:33 -
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Did you buy the scorp navy already?
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Rear Admiral Barrington
Percussus Resurgo. Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.04.14 17:12:06 -
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These fits demonstrate that you're not ready to fly this ship. |

Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.04.14 18:09:13 -
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small gang and battleship doesn't really work |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.14 18:41:36 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:small gang and battleship doesn't really work
They do, just not this way.
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Jake Kreuger
S.T.A.R.S Command
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Posted - 2015.04.14 18:56:59 -
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No haven't bought anything yet. Just out of curiosity really. Although I would hope to fly something like this eventually. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.14 21:20:31 -
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Jake Kreuger wrote:No haven't bought anything yet. Just out of curiosity really. Although I would hope to fly something like this eventually.
Ok well dont.
What you want is a raven, much cheaper and better suited as a starter. I'll cook you up a fit after the OP I'm on is done.
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Jake Kreuger
S.T.A.R.S Command
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Posted - 2015.04.14 21:34:59 -
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baltec1 wrote:Jake Kreuger wrote:No haven't bought anything yet. Just out of curiosity really. Although I would hope to fly something like this eventually. Ok well dont. What you want is a raven, much cheaper and better suited as a starter. I'll cook you up a fit after the OP I'm on is done.
That would be brilliant. Thanks very much, apreciate it. |

Conflict Engaged
Southern Collective The Southern Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.04.14 23:03:13 -
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You shouldn't really be using a Battleship for solo or small gang PvP if you're new to PvP, especially not blingy ones. Also, you should never have an empty Mid or Low slot. Sometimes I argue that missing out on High slots is silly, also, but it depends the ship and what you're doing. I would highly recommended starting with Frigates and Destroyers, maybe even Cruisers if you're keen to blow some ISK in the learning process. Feel free to contact me in-game for ship fitting advice, and any general help on PvP. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15608
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:04:41 -
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[Raven, Raven fit]
Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400 EM Ward Field II Large Shield Extender II
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Rugged, simple and works well with a small gang. Cut your teeth on it and adapt it as you get better.
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.15 02:41:39 -
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So youknow, your first mistake was the torpedos |

McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
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Posted - 2015.04.15 05:27:33 -
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Hakaari Inkuran wrote:So youknow, your first mistake was the torpedos My vote is for the empty low slot.
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Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.04.15 06:25:46 -
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baltec1 wrote:[Raven, Raven fit]
Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400 EM Ward Field II Large Shield Extender II
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Rugged, simple and works well with a small gang. Cut your teeth on it and adapt it as you get better. Don't let people dictate on what weapon system you should use. If you know you're fighting small, medium or large ships then you should fit appropriately. Only though knowledge and experience can you find out how to do that for yourself.
With that said, most players fly around in Small/Medium sized ships usually with a lot of speed and/or dps (with the exception of fleets).
That NavScorpion fit is good (assuming you have fleet support) but like others have said, if your new to roaming, it's best to fly something cheaper.
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Jake Kreuger
S.T.A.R.S Command
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Posted - 2015.04.15 07:30:36 -
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baltec1 wrote:[Raven, Raven fit]
Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400 EM Ward Field II Large Shield Extender II
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Heavy Missile Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Rugged, simple and works well with a small gang. Cut your teeth on it and adapt it as you get better.
Thanks man. Lookin forward to it.
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Blodhgarm Dethahal
Absolutely Certain
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Posted - 2015.04.16 21:45:42 -
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Honestly if you want to invest the money in a Faction Battleship that uses Missiles, just get a Rattlesnake, it is better and cheaper than both the Navy Scorpion and Raven (except in damage application, but that is only with Missiles, you still have Drones).
If you want to stay cheap, the Raven fit above works fine. Could also consider a dual XL ASB fit for no Logi fights (really hard to fit though).
-Bl+¦d
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Conflict Engaged
Southern Collective The Southern Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.04.17 23:16:44 -
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Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:Honestly if you want to invest the money in a Faction Battleship that uses Missiles, just get a Rattlesnake, it is better and cheaper than both the Navy Scorpion and Raven (except in damage application, but that is only with Missiles, you still have Drones).
If you want to stay cheap, the Raven fit above works fine. Could also consider a dual XL ASB fit for no Logi fights (really hard to fit though). Ignore this guy. |

Arthur Aihaken
Jormungand Corporation
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Posted - 2015.04.19 22:26:49 -
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Conflict Engaged wrote:Ignore this guy. The same could be said for your own advice. The Rattlesnake actually does more missile damage then the Navy Scorpion and has a heavier tank despite only 7 mid slots.
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Conflict Engaged
Southern Collective The Southern Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.04.19 22:57:54 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Conflict Engaged wrote:Ignore this guy. The same could be said for your own advice. The Rattlesnake actually does more missile damage then the Navy Scorpion and has a heavier tank despite only 7 mid slots. Considering he's new, spending 800 mil on a hull, then spending even more on fitting for that hull which will actually make it useful will be expensive, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to lose that kind of ISK as a newb to PvP, so why give advice to do so? That's just silly. And who solo PvPs in a Battleship? |

Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.04.19 23:27:43 -
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Conflict Engaged wrote: And who solo PvPs in a Battleship?
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Blodhgarm Dethahal
Absolutely Certain
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Posted - 2015.04.20 00:01:25 -
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Conflict Engaged wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Conflict Engaged wrote:Ignore this guy. The same could be said for your own advice. The Rattlesnake actually does more missile damage then the Navy Scorpion and has a heavier tank despite only 7 mid slots. Considering he's new, spending 800 mil on a hull, then spending even more on fitting for that hull which will actually make it useful will be expensive, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to lose that kind of ISK as a newb to PvP, so why give advice to do so? That's just silly. And who solo PvPs in a Battleship?
[Rattlesnake, Buffer]
Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
100MN Microwarpdrive II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Warp Scrambler II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Stasis Webifier II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Praetor II x2 Ogre II x2
1352 DPS.. 140k EHP.. 435 mill ISK..
Yes.. tell me more how a Rattlesnake is not as cost effective (and lets keep in mind we can get even more DPS out of it! and even more tank! if we drop a web and heavy neut for a 2nd extender and a 5th launcher!)
Lets see.. oh yes.. Navy Scorps cost 620 mill...
Oh and look at that.. 540 mill for a Navy Raven too...
And just because.. Fleet Typhoons go for about 460 mill
So the just the HULL ALONE for the other faction missile boats cost MORE than the hull+fitting of a Rattlesnake... and it has the DPS of a dual weapon system, and a resist bonus..
So again.. tell me how the Rattlesnake is not cost effective in comparison to other Faction/Pirate missile boats..
Also he didn't say he would be soloing.. he said he would be working in a small gang..
And is he better off starting off PvP small? yeah.. but he didn't ask for that advice.. he just wanted a fit.. and he got some..
-Bl+¦d
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Conflict Engaged
Southern Collective The Southern Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:06:13 -
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Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:Conflict Engaged wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Conflict Engaged wrote:Ignore this guy. The same could be said for your own advice. The Rattlesnake actually does more missile damage then the Navy Scorpion and has a heavier tank despite only 7 mid slots. Considering he's new, spending 800 mil on a hull, then spending even more on fitting for that hull which will actually make it useful will be expensive, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to lose that kind of ISK as a newb to PvP, so why give advice to do so? That's just silly. And who solo PvPs in a Battleship? [Rattlesnake, Buffer] Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II 100MN Microwarpdrive II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Warp Scrambler II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Stasis Webifier II Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Praetor II x2 Ogre II x2 1352 DPS.. 140k EHP.. 435 mill ISK.. Yes.. tell me more how a Rattlesnake is not as cost effective (and lets keep in mind we can get even more DPS out of it! and even more tank! if we drop a web and heavy neut for a 2nd extender and a 5th launcher!) Lets see.. oh yes.. Navy Scorps cost 620 mill... Oh and look at that.. 540 mill for a Navy Raven too... And just because.. Fleet Typhoons go for about 460 mill So the just the HULL ALONE for the other faction missile boats cost MORE than the hull+fitting of a Rattlesnake... and it has the DPS of a dual weapon system, and a resist bonus.. So again.. tell me how the Rattlesnake is not cost effective in comparison to other Faction/Pirate missile boats.. Also he didn't say he would be soloing.. he said he would be working in a small gang.. And is he better off starting off PvP small? yeah.. but he didn't ask for that advice.. he just wanted a fit.. and he got some.. Sorry, I didn't realise 500 mil was a **** in the ocean for those starting PvP, and considering you can squeeze that kind of damage from other drone boats in the game for less, that's nothing to be proud of. Solo or small gang, it's going to be too much. No one said anything about a Navy Raven, and my argument here was that spending that kind of ISK on a ship that's going to get blown up, for a person new to PvP, that's just stupid. Your fit in general isn't effective for small gang either. And starting smaller may not be the advice he was looking for, but I'm not going to watch people give him fits like yours, spend too much ISK and then get it blown up and be confused as to why. If you can't see that, then you obviously don't PvP. |
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