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simladabim
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:03:00 -
[331]
 Originally by: Slowboat
Edited by: Slowboat on 31/10/2006 00:02:04
Originally by: Manfred Sideous
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 30/10/2006 20:55:51
This has nothing to do with the blogs / morale / propaganda stuff which anyway I never cared about. I am telling you that the perception of the general ASCN foot soldier is BoB as an entity couldnt give a damn about good fights, and everytime they post a "congrats nice try" its actually "thanks for the slaughter, n00bs".
Blacklight himself said they will allow anything within game boundaries to win and is proud of that.
I understand and accept such attitude, but when clowns like you show up and take the higher ground telling how you are only after there purest of fights, well then forgive me but it makes me chuckle.
Obviously you dont understand BOB or the PVP purest mentality. Ive fought BOB in fleet battles quite a few times and nothing but kind words and good times were exchanged. Bud this is why they play the game PEW PEW. IMO that and having there finger on the I win EVE button is what makes em login.
They are seasoned pilots and when they see a lesser opponent make tactical errors it probably gives them a chuckle cuz tthat means your arse. But from personal expierience BOB are good sports who really love PVP. IF winning eve were based on how much veldspar u can mine BOB would be the n00bs of the Eveverse.
Umm.. Good sports who want good fights would be allowing the enemy fleet time to log in and reform gang after a node crash (as evidenced by D2 pulling out of system when the node crashed in a recent engagement with AXE) instead of turkey shooting them as they log in. Good sports would not use TS spies to gain tactical advantage over their opponent IF they really wanted good fights.
They DO use those tactics though so it is hardly evidence of them wanting good fights.
But would ascn do that for bob ? I doubt it
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KSUDruid
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:05:00 -
[332]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
And to the forum spies - thank you very much for making my life hell again (4th Deaththreat in game now) and making me fear for my life and my family over a MOTHER******* GAME! to ally yourself with retards who think its funny to scare people in RL....well **** you.
CEO Pyrex
ASCN
I wanna know then Pyrex, who was it in our ranks that made this 'threat'. If you remember anything about me from our time together in DDC you know that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES would I tolerate something like that from one of my fellow alliance members or corp members. You probably recall a certain someone making a very similiar threat to me from back in the day and how crazy I got about it.
If someone in Bob, really truly threatened to kill you, then you need to tell me, cause I want nothing to do with an Alliance that tolerates that. Your welcome to evemail me or catch me ingame anytime if you don't want to answer in public. But until you provide some proof of this certain claim, you're just another lying member of an alliance I'm ashamed to have helped create.
-Druid
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simladabim
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:06:00 -
[333]
simladabim is me 
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Maule
Amarr
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:06:00 -
[334]
hmm sim is me :S
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Nira Li
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:07:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Gungankllr
Log on/log off traps, inifiltrated teamspeak servers, infiltrated forums, bookmark bombs, all this assorted crap is ruining this game.
I'm just going to say this once.
We do not use log on/log off traps or bookmark bombs.
Just because you guys keep claiming that without any proof at all, it doesn't mean we do it. You should take a good look on your guys loss mails and count the bookmarks...
If I caught anyone in BoB doing that I will kick their ass at the next BoB BBQ.
and aww I saw I just missed out on CEO Pyrex earlier today, Bob-light to tough for you? 
You Will Cry My Name
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Gungankllr
Caldari
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:12:00 -
[336]
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Gungankllr
Log on/log off traps, inifiltrated teamspeak servers, infiltrated forums, bookmark bombs, all this assorted crap is ruining this game.
I'm just going to say this once.
We do not use log on/log off traps or bookmark bombs.
Just because you guys keep claiming that without any proof at all, it doesn't mean we do it. You should take a good look on your guys loss mails and count the bookmarks...
If I caught anyone in BoB doing that I will kick their ass at the next BoB BBQ.
and aww I saw I just missed out on CEO Pyrex earlier today, Bob-light to tough for you?
Do me a favor, read my ENTIRE post in more than two minutes, then feel free to respond.
Hidden in this signature is a secret message.
Send me isk, Caracals cost money.
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:14:00 -
[337]
Originally by: simladabim
Originally by: Slowboat
Umm.. Good sports who want good fights would be allowing the enemy fleet time to log in and reform gang after a node crash (as evidenced by D2 pulling out of system when the node crashed in a recent engagement with AXE) instead of turkey shooting them as they log in. Good sports would not use TS spies to gain tactical advantage over their opponent IF they really wanted good fights.
They DO use those tactics though so it is hardly evidence of them wanting good fights.
But would ascn do that for bob ? I doubt it
Umm.. Several offers to set up Cease fires with BOB during Node crashes were made on these boards, I remember reading them, and BOB members universally shot it down.
So the same question still stands.
Originally by: Nira Li
I'm just going to say this once.
We do not use log on/log off traps or bookmark bombs.
Just because you guys keep claiming that without any proof at all, it doesn't mean we do it. You should take a good look on your guys loss mails and count the bookmarks...
If I caught anyone in BoB doing that I will kick their ass at the next BoB BBQ.
If you read what Gunga said, he said that crap like that is ruining the game. He never specifically accused BOB of using BM bombs or log off/log on traps.
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Nira Li
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:16:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Gungankllr
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Gungankllr
Log on/log off traps, inifiltrated teamspeak servers, infiltrated forums, bookmark bombs, all this assorted crap is ruining this game.
I'm just going to say this once.
We do not use log on/log off traps or bookmark bombs.
Just because you guys keep claiming that without any proof at all, it doesn't mean we do it. You should take a good look on your guys loss mails and count the bookmarks...
If I caught anyone in BoB doing that I will kick their ass at the next BoB BBQ.
and aww I saw I just missed out on CEO Pyrex earlier today, Bob-light to tough for you?
Do me a favor, read my ENTIRE post in more than two minutes, then feel free to respond.
I read the "looks like everyone does it" part. And it got me a bit heated.
Sorry if got it wrong.
You Will Cry My Name
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Vily
Lilium Venture Initiative
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:17:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Gungankllr
I'm having this strange sense of Deja Vu here when it comes to posting stuff from private forums.
The bottom line is the posts you guys are so happily quoting are located on a private server, meant for the private parsing by its members.
I KNOW you gents and ladies can't stand the stuff that people like RA pull on a regular basis.
It's within the game mechanics, so It's ok, right?
I always envisioned Band of Brothers as an elite PVP force of nature that didn't have to use exploits or dirty underhanded tricks to win battles, they won because they were good at what they did in space.
But the problem I have nowadays, and not just because it's you against my guys, is that everyone seems to be migrating towards these cheap tactics to win nowadays.
Log on/log off traps, inifiltrated teamspeak servers, infiltrated forums, bookmark bombs, all this assorted crap is ruining this game.
I'm not going to sit here and be Mr. Innocent and claim somebody in ASCN has never exploited. The size of our alliance alone makes the probability of someone doing exploits statistically sure.
The question I keep asking myself, and your members, is one that keeps getting ignored. I know that my posts aren't as electrifying as some of these guys on the forums, but I'd like to think that the points are valid.
If the Band of Brothers alliance is as good as they claim, why do they need all the assorted in-game and out-of game assistance when fighting us?
I mean, according to you guys, and some of the Eve community, we couldn't fight our way out of a paper bag with a flamethrower and a can of gasoline.
So, why?
to be honest. your forums are "infiltrated" you folks are jsut too damn lazy to CLEAN THEM UP. I found it really sad that i was in ASCN 5 months ago and i still have access, yet a corp leaves ascn, and becasue its war they all loose their forum access with the day ?
you guys honestly bring upon the forum and ts stuff yourself. BOB would find a way in if they wanted to, but if you dont put up a fence dont expect people to not walk all over your lawn
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Listed as Such, I claim nothing but existense. know me true
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Ab Initio
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:21:00 -
[340]
Edited by: Ab Initio on 31/10/2006 00:25:07
Originally by: Gungankllr
The question I keep asking myself, and your members, is one that keeps getting ignored. I know that my posts aren't as electrifying as some of these guys on the forums, but I'd like to think that the points are valid.
If the Band of Brothers alliance is as good as they claim, why do they need all the assorted in-game and out-of game assistance when fighting us?
Firstly, the "assorted assistance" you seem to mention in the rest of your post, can be broken into two seperate areas:
* Counter Intelligence
* Exploiting
BoB do not exploit under any circumstances. Counter Intelligence on the other hand is a completely valid option. There are people in our alliance that enjoy playing this game as an operative or spy, and focus their game time on infiltration.
Who are we to tell them how they can and can't play the game? I've said it before, and it's still relevant. If you honestly believe your alliance doesn't use spies, you aren't high enough in the food chain to know better.
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Colonel Buendia
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:38:00 -
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Guys, copying and pasting *anything* has civil issues with regards to copyright. When somebody writes a post, they automatically own the copyright to that post. If you are reproducing that post publically without that permission, that could get CCP in trouble for allowing the distribution of such material (once they are made aware of the situtation/infringement, they cannot claim 'Mere Conduit' status) see Godfrey versus Demon Internet.
However with a civil case, you obviously have to be able to display that you have made a loss in respect of the copyrighted works being published without permission... which would be impossible, i'd imagine.
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APEXrevived
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:40:00 -
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As far as infiltrated forums goes. Here's my opinion. You cannot expect CCP to issue a statement condemning the infiltration of 3rd party mechanisms such as forums because:
1. they cannot restrict what you do out of game by enforcing in game consequences.
2. the whole of the eve community utilizes third party forums. it's all or nothing. either they ban them totally or don't regulate them at all.
It's absurd to want CCP to enforce things that are not owned or regulated by them. We all use these forums and Team Speak at our own risk. One of those risks is infiltration by enemies. This game is very much about treachery. They purposely put it in the game mechanics because they believe it to be a valuable part of the game.
As for posting messages that are intended for private forums on the EVE official boards, arguments could be made either way. To BoB's credit, they have only posted the content they deem either off-the-wall lies or directly slanderous to them.
I thought since this game is called Eve that I'd play a female character. Is that a good enough excuse for a guy? |
Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 31/10/2006 00:45:44
Originally by: Gungankllr
I'm having this strange sense of Deja Vu here when it comes to posting stuff from private forums.
The bottom line is the posts you guys are so happily quoting are located on a private server, meant for the private parsing by its members.
I KNOW you gents and ladies can't stand the stuff that people like RA pull on a regular basis.
It's within the game mechanics, so It's ok, right?
I always envisioned Band of Brothers as an elite PVP force of nature that didn't have to use exploits or dirty underhanded tricks to win battles, they won because they were good at what they did in space.
But the problem I have nowadays, and not just because it's you against my guys, is that everyone seems to be migrating towards these cheap tactics to win nowadays.
Log on/log off traps, inifiltrated teamspeak servers, infiltrated forums, bookmark bombs, all this assorted crap is ruining this game.
...
I mean, according to you guys, and some of the Eve community, we couldn't fight our way out of a paper bag with a flamethrower and a can of gasoline.
So, why?
Fair question.
We don't do it because we need to do it to achieve the desired result, we do it because it's part of the game.
As has been pointed out a number of times on these forums, those that believe BoB is purely a PVP outfit are wrong, very wrong. We allow our members to explore every aspect of the game and those that excel at a particular role are allowed to stick to it, be it mining, covert ops scouting, or sabotage and infiltration.
Some people genuinely enjoy infiltrating hostile alliances and we give them the room and leeway to do so as it's a valid part of the game. With me?
I don't think there's anybody in BoB that doesn't believe that we wouldn't still be winning the war without our spy network or the intelligence they provide. To be honest, they don't play as a big a part in our general playbook as you might think, 95% of our battlefield successes are down to outstanding leadership and flawless scouting by our Covert Ops pilots.
With regards to other "cheap" tactics such as log on traps, bookmark lag bombs, etc, I can only repeat what every other BoB CEO has stated thus far... BoB does not use these tactics, BoB never has done and any member caught abusing game mechanics in a reckless mannor will be dealt with serverely. Reports should be made via evemail to the relevent CEO if you wish to do so.
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 01:49:00 -
[344]
Edited by: pershphanie on 31/10/2006 01:50:13
Originally by: Gungankllr
If the Band of Brothers alliance is as good as they claim, why do they need all the assorted in-game and out-of game assistance when fighting us?
BoB infiltrates your alliance through in game methods, not out of game methods. Bob applies to your alliance in game just like every single character in eve has the ability to do. Once in your corps being on TS and on your forums is part of being in ASCN.
We aquire everything we need to access your TS/forums through in game methods. BoB is not hacking your TS/forums.
If you consider putting a spy on your ts/forums that got that access through legit in game methods to be "out of game methods" for just being on your TS/forums and nothing else then the only way your arguement makes sense is if you consider the use of TS/forums in general an out of game methods.
You cant have your cake and eat it too. If you consider spying on your ts to be unfair use of out of game methods then you must consider the use of TS itself an unfair out of game method. Otherwise that arguement does not hold up.
So if you consider the use of TS/forums as something thats a legitimate use of the game then you must also consider spying on ts/forums legit as long as they are infiltrated though the use of in game methods.
I dont see how spying is any different than the use of covert ops ships tbh. It is not an unfair advantage. Anyone in eve has the ability to spy. The playing field is level.
Originally by: CYVOK
If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.31 01:59:00 -
[345]
Edited by: Slowboat on 31/10/2006 01:59:32
Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 31/10/2006 00:45:44
I don't think there's anybody in BoB that doesn't believe that we wouldn't still be winning the war without our spy network or the intelligence they provide. To be honest, they don't play as a big a part in our general playbook as you might think, 95% of our battlefield successes are down to outstanding leadership and flawless scouting by our Covert Ops pilots.
With regards to other "cheap" tactics such as log on traps, bookmark lag bombs, etc, I can only repeat what every other BoB CEO has stated thus far... BoB does not use these tactics, BoB never has done and any member caught abusing game mechanics in a reckless mannor will be dealt with serverely. Reports should be made via evemail to the relevent CEO if you wish to do so.
Unfortunately you'll never be able to prove that because there is no way to prove you won't continue to use them even if you say you will stop. Once you use a tactic denying that your using it anymore won't cut it.
You can believe you would beat ASCN without TS spies but you can't prove it anymore.
As to the lame tactics / exploits Gunga never accused bob of doing them so I don't know why you are getting so defensive about it in regards to his post.
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UnIQu3
Amarr
DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:01:00 -
[346]
Who says we ain't on your guys forums?
or TS?
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Caybn E'vangel
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:08:00 -
[347]
Originally by: UnIQu3
Who says we ain't on your guys forums?
or TS?
Your members imply it every time the say the phrase "BoB has to use underhanded tactics, teaspeak and forum spies to win", if they wernt implying it they would simply be hypocritical in accusing us of it, and we all know you arnt hypocrites, right?.
I don't want the world, I just want your half. |
Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:08:00 -
[348]
outbreak are a bunch of ****ers
join channel Dope Dealerz if you wanna
sell or can supply drugs on a regular basis. |
pershphanie
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:09:00 -
[349]
Originally by: UnIQu3
Who says we ain't on your guys forums?
or TS?
Your other self rightous alliance members when they are constantly preaching about how horrible spying is?
Originally by: CYVOK
If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Ab Initio
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:12:00 -
[350]
Edited by: Ab Initio on 31/10/2006 02:13:25
Originally by: Slowboat
Unfortunately you'll never be able to prove that because there is no way to prove you won't continue to use them even if you say you will stop. Once you use a tactic denying that your using it anymore won't cut it.
You can believe you would beat ASCN without TS spies but you can't prove it anymore.
Who would we want to prove that too? We're open about our counter intelligence initiatives. I personally think any large alliances without some form of intelligence group is missing out on an interesting part of the game.
Originally by: Slowboat
As to the lame tactics / exploits Gunga never accused bob of doing them so I don't know why you are getting so defensive about it in regards to his post.
If someone posted "I see another Slowboat post. Damn I hate trolls", would you be offended? They didn't specifically call you a troll, but it was certainly implied.
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Kryztal
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:14:00 -
[351]
Originally by: Slowboat
Edited by: Slowboat on 31/10/2006 00:02:04
Originally by: Manfred Sideous
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 30/10/2006 20:55:51
This has nothing to do with the blogs / morale / propaganda stuff which anyway I never cared about. I am telling you that the perception of the general ASCN foot soldier is BoB as an entity couldnt give a damn about good fights, and everytime they post a "congrats nice try" its actually "thanks for the slaughter, n00bs".
Blacklight himself said they will allow anything within game boundaries to win and is proud of that.
I understand and accept such attitude, but when clowns like you show up and take the higher ground telling how you are only after there purest of fights, well then forgive me but it makes me chuckle.
Obviously you dont understand BOB or the PVP purest mentality. Ive fought BOB in fleet battles quite a few times and nothing but kind words and good times were exchanged. Bud this is why they play the game PEW PEW. IMO that and having there finger on the I win EVE button is what makes em login.
They are seasoned pilots and when they see a lesser opponent make tactical errors it probably gives them a chuckle cuz tthat means your arse. But from personal expierience BOB are good sports who really love PVP. IF winning eve were based on how much veldspar u can mine BOB would be the n00bs of the Eveverse.
Umm.. Good sports who want good fights would be allowing the enemy fleet time to log in and reform gang after a node crash (as evidenced by D2 pulling out of system when the node crashed in a recent engagement with AXE) instead of turkey shooting them as they log in. Good sports would not use TS spies to gain tactical advantage over their opponent IF they really wanted good fights.
They DO use those tactics though so it is hardly evidence of them wanting good fights.
We did this quite often with G up north but the fact of the matter is that at this time and point we dont owe ASCN anything. Maybe if they had conducted themselves like former G did and showed us that they truely are honorable with their word then maybe things would be diffrent but the fact of the matter is that some of them are behaving like spoiled bratz when a node crashes, screaming in local that we are exploiters and that we crash the node on purpose.... Im sorry but honour and good sport has been thrown out of the window from the start of the war. They have the same options as we, log in and start killing stuff, its up to them to actually have the balls to log back in. We dont have any special client h4x's that make us log back in faster and tbh i would love to be able to log in faster as i seem to always be the last one to get back in.
TS spies lol, they are used to find out where a fleet is going so a)we can intercept and fight b)know that there is a fleet coming for us. In real combat .. you know... fleet action there is no need for TS spy and its pretty useless as it goes so fast so its of no value to us when we actually get a fight.
And your right about one thing, we aint here for the good fights alone. We are here to kill you and we are doing the same things weve done for 3 years, everyone is right to their opinons of BoB but so few actually know us and tbh we dont care.
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Kryztal
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kryztal on 31/10/2006 02:24:52
Originally by: UnIQu3
Who says we ain't on your guys forums?
or TS?
LoL cute, we arent ashamed of anything on our members forum. They are a great laugh and show how everyone is loving this war. TS, youll maybe learn a thing or two so its all good. Even our directors forums are very upbeat and loving. So tbh ASCN reading our forums is a good thing :P
*edit*
I especially enjoyed this one thats been going on all day !
Tzrailasa
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:14 pm
Post subject: EVE Tribune rips McCready a new one :-D
Read and enjoy Laughing
http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=21&page=3
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal
And your right about one thing, we aint here for the good fights alone. We are here to kill you and we are doing the same things weve done for 3 years, everyone is right to their opinons of BoB but so few actually know us and tbh we dont care.
Well, your not killing me but at least one of your alliance has finally dropped the entire "we want good fights" company line and is being semi-honest for once.
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iceyreloaded
Amarr
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:42:00 -
[354]
I want a pony
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Jasmine Dupre
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:46:00 -
[355]
I want a tech2 Pony
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Rukya
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:48:00 -
[356]
Nah, I want a horse!
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Gilbert Drillerson
DarkStar 1
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: KSUDruid
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
And to the forum spies - thank you very much for making my life hell again (4th Deaththreat in game now) and making me fear for my life and my family over a MOTHER******* GAME! to ally yourself with retards who think its funny to scare people in RL....well **** you.
CEO Pyrex
ASCN
I wanna know then Pyrex, who was it in our ranks that made this 'threat'. If you remember anything about me from our time together in DDC you know that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES would I tolerate something like that from one of my fellow alliance members or corp members. You probably recall a certain someone making a very similiar threat to me from back in the day and how crazy I got about it.
If someone in Bob, really truly threatened to kill you, then you need to tell me, cause I want nothing to do with an Alliance that tolerates that. Your welcome to evemail me or catch me ingame anytime if you don't want to answer in public. But until you provide some proof of this certain claim, you're just another lying member of an alliance I'm ashamed to have helped create.
You know Pyrex almost as well as I do m8, weather or not he chooses to further comment on this or not is his decission, but i have two comments to attach.
1. This is not a subject suited for this forum.. at all
2. Ask yourself if he would make something like this up and draw your own conclusions
/Gil
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 31/10/2006 03:04:04
Originally by: Slowboat
Good sports would not use TS spies to gain tactical advantage over their opponent IF they really wanted good fights.
I still dont understand why its ok to use TS, but not ok to spy on an enemy TS. Whats the difference? Why is one standard and one bad sportsman ship? Its ok for me to use one ts but cheating to be on a different one? makes absolutly no sense what so ever.
Originally by: CYVOK
If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.31 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: Slowboat on 31/10/2006 03:12:51
Originally by: pershphanie
Edited by: pershphanie on 31/10/2006 03:04:04
Originally by: Slowboat
Good sports would not use TS spies to gain tactical advantage over their opponent IF they really wanted good fights.
I still dont understand why its ok to use TS, but not ok to spy on an enemy TS. Whats the difference? Why is one standard and one bad sportsman ship? Its ok for me to use one ts but cheating to be on a different one? makes absolutly no sense what so ever.
Alright, why don't you give ASCN members free access to your TS and see if you like having them knowing your every move if you can not understand it.
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Zak Kingsman
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.10.31 03:17:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Slowboat
Edited by: Slowboat on 31/10/2006 03:12:51
Originally by: pershphanie
Edited by: pershphanie on 31/10/2006 03:04:04
Originally by: Slowboat
Good sports would not use TS spies to gain tactical advantage over their opponent IF they really wanted good fights.
I still dont understand why its ok to use TS, but not ok to spy on an enemy TS. Whats the difference? Why is one standard and one bad sportsman ship? Its ok for me to use one ts but cheating to be on a different one? makes absolutly no sense what so ever.
Alright, why don't you give ASCN members free access to your TS and see if you like having them knowing your every move if you can not understand it.
No problem, just have one of your ascn members with a good combat alt and a clean corp history app. Once he has access to the bob forums and TS so do you! Jeeze, super tough concept to understand.
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