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Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:18:00 - [361] Sure! All they need to do is apply to join a BoB corp and pass the interview. Please contact the appropriate CEOs for applications. Once in the alliance, TS and forum access will be given in short order. Thanks and have a nice day!
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:27:00 - [362] Originally by: Slowboat Alright, why don't you give ASCN members free access to your TS and see if you like having them knowing your every move if you can not understand it. If ASCN can get a spy into BoB, they'll have free access to our forums and TS, no complaints from us. You'll find rather quickly though, that information dissemination in BoB, generally works under the assumption that we are already infiltrated. Good luck finding a way to use ***** requests for rash treatment suggestions to turn the tide of war :D
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:31:00 - [363] Originally by: Slowboat Edited by: Slowboat on 31/10/2006 03:12:51 Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 31/10/2006 03:04:04 Originally by: Slowboat Good sports would not use TS spies to gain tactical advantage over their opponent IF they really wanted good fights. I still dont understand why its ok to use TS, but not ok to spy on an enemy TS. Whats the difference? Why is one standard and one bad sportsman ship? Its ok for me to use one ts but cheating to be on a different one? makes absolutly no sense what so ever. Alright, why don't you give ASCN members free access to your TS and see if you like having them knowing your every move if you can not understand it. We already do. In the same way we have free access to their ts. Everyone in eve can apply to bob or ascn ingame. Using TS is no different than spying on ts. If its ok to use TS with eve then its ok to spy on it. There is no moral difference. If you think we are bad sports for spying on a TS server, then you must also think they are bad sports for using ts. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Arched	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:37:00 - [364] Originally by: Rebellion Sure! All they need to do is apply to join a BoB corp and pass the interview. Please contact the appropriate CEOs for applications. Once in the alliance, TS and forum access will be given in short order. Thanks and have a nice day! thought you guys didn't recruit during wartimes otherwise i'd put in an app just to shoot hobbits
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:40:00 - [365] Edited by: Slowboat on 31/10/2006 03:41:21 Originally by: Arched Originally by: Rebellion Sure! All they need to do is apply to join a BoB corp and pass the interview. Please contact the appropriate CEOs for applications. Once in the alliance, TS and forum access will be given in short order. Thanks and have a nice day! thought you guys didn't recruit during wartimes otherwise i'd put in an app just to shoot hobbits Oh, BOB recruits. They approach you to join them when they want to and those are the only APPs they accept. So them saying "Any ASCN member can get an alt in by applying" is just so much BS. <chuckle>
analev godder The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:44:00 - [366] Originally by: Slowboat Edited by: Slowboat on 31/10/2006 03:12:51 Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 31/10/2006 03:04:04 Originally by: Slowboat Good sports would not use TS spies to gain tactical advantage over their opponent IF they really wanted good fights. I still dont understand why its ok to use TS, but not ok to spy on an enemy TS. Whats the difference? Why is one standard and one bad sportsman ship? Its ok for me to use one ts but cheating to be on a different one? makes absolutly no sense what so ever. Alright, why don't you give ASCN members free access to your TS and see if you like having them knowing your every move if you can not understand it. I think you need to check your disc there must be a scratch in it. It keeps repeating the same old **. Yeah they got TS spy, yeah they got Forum ***s get over it. I don't like it neither but FFS get a grip and realise it's one of the darker sides of the game. Does a TS spy give them an advantage. Sure, but it doesn't win them the battles. Do you honestly believe they would have lost more battles without the spies. I don't think so, they might have lost more ships for sure but in the end i believe the result would have been the same.
arjun Viziam	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:46:00 - [367] do u have the same level of sypathy for corp thiefs as u have for spies? yes? no? whats the difference? both misuse trust somebody places in them. trust gained by mostly out of game means like ts. not the char in the game cheats your corp or is a traitor. its the person in front of the screen who is the dirt doing those things. there is no means to verify the identity of somebody on the internet. all you can do is make3 it harder for spies/thiefs to get acces. from a certain size onward its near impossible. this discussion has been had hundreds of times here. just because the full time forum brigade says corp thieving and spieing is the correct way to play doesnt make it the truth.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:53:00 - [368] Originally by: arjun Edited by: arjun on 31/10/2006 03:47:22 do u have the same level of sympathy for corp thiefs as u have for spies? yes? no? whats the difference? both misuse trust somebody places in them. trust gained by mostly out of game means like ts. not the char in the game cheats your corp or is a traitor. its the person in front of the screen who is the dirt doing those things. there is no means to verify the identity of somebody on the internet. all you can do is make it harder for spies/thiefs to get acces. from a certain size onward its near impossible. this discussion has been had hundreds of times here. just because the full time forum brigade says corp thieving and spieing is the correct way to play doesnt make it the truth. No, corp thiefs are just using the game mechanics and its up to if you trust a person or not. That beeeing said i dont like corp thiefs but its a part of this game and you either accept it or you quit. Simple as that. If you want to roleplay a spy or a thief its your right to do so, you also have the game mechanics to make sure a corp thief isnt successfull and you have the tools to limit the intel a spy can get to. But its all a part of the Big Game we call EvE. Your given the tools to prevent it so use them, if you dont then there is nobody but yourself to blame. Dont be bitter. P.S. I want our ammo some PA stole from our corp hangers back -.- :P
analev godder The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:58:00 - [369] Originally by: arjun Edited by: arjun on 31/10/2006 03:47:22 do u have the same level of sympathy for corp thiefs as u have for spies? yes? no? whats the difference? both misuse trust somebody places in them. trust gained by mostly out of game means like ts. not the char in the game cheats your corp or is a traitor. its the person in front of the screen who is the dirt doing those things. there is no means to verify the identity of somebody on the internet. all you can do is make it harder for spies/thiefs to get acces. from a certain size onward its near impossible. this discussion has been had hundreds of times here. just because the full time forum brigade says corp thieving and spieing is the correct way to play doesnt make it the truth. Don't get me wrong the player in question does not get my sympathy. Neither will a corp thief get my sympathy. But who am I to tell other how to play the game. I believe that every player has to make that decision for himself. This is a game that allows spying, thieving, scamming, you name it and you accept that fact or not. Crying about it will not change a damn thing. I can understand people complain about it but keeping the same old tune going for weeks. And use it to hide the fact that they are just not good enough is the wrong way. But like many do in RL, people look for other to blame to hide their own inexperience. If i get my butt kicked all over the place it's not because the other cheats, exploits, use outgame advantages, pr whatever other reason you can find. It's just that the other is either more skilled, more experienced, basically is more up to the task at hand.
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 04:03:00 - [370] Originally by: Slowboat Oh, BOB recruits. They approach you to join them when they want to and those are the only APPs they accept. So them saying "Any ASCN member can get an alt in by applying" is just so much BS. <chuckle> I'm still not getting where the unfair part is. Is there is something preventing ASCN members from opening opening convos and asking players to join? Do bob use h4x to force ASCN members to accept 2 month old alts? Every character, corp, and alliance in eve starts with the same tools everyone else has. Who is really to blame for spys on ASCN TS? I'd say the only person who is at fault there is the person who hit the "accept application" button. Xetic loves to blame bob for their own leaderships incompetence. That's ok though. I think the avg ASCN member is slowly understanding how bad their leadership really is. BoB is not the source of your alliances troubles and weaknesses. We just exposed them. Everything that is happening to ASCN right now is their own fault. If Xetic high command were half as good of leaders as they claim to be they would accept personal responsibility for their poor recruitment policies then make an effort to change them. However just like with every other problem they have it seems their fear of losing power takes priority over the betterment of their alliance. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
KSUDruid Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 04:06:00 - [371] Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson You know Pyrex almost as well as I do m8, weather or not he chooses to further comment on this or not is his decission, but i have two comments to attach. 1. This is not a subject suited for this forum.. at all 1. I think it probably is the correct forum Gil, cause he's trying to use a supposed 'threat' as policital propaganda and motivation to fight us. If there really was a threat made like that, than even attempting to do anything with it other than reporting it to the GMs and possibly the offending members CEO, along with proper proof (ie screenshots, logs, timestamps ect). You know as well as I do taking something serious like that and twisting it into propagand is damn near as bad as the offense itself. Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson 2. Ask yourself if he would make something like this up and draw your own conclusions 2. TBH old friend, I've seen alot of people say things way outside the scope of normal in-game smacktalk these past few weeks. I'd like to think no one would make up something like this, but judging by some of the accusations that have been thrown my way by people I used to know.. I have to really wonder . -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre
Moghydin Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 07:54:00 - [372] Edited by: Moghydin on 31/10/2006 07:54:25 Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 31/10/2006 04:07:37 Originally by: Slowboat Oh, BOB recruits. They approach you to join them when they want to and those are the only APPs they accept. So them saying "Any ASCN member can get an alt in by applying" is just so much BS. <chuckle> I'm still not getting where the unfair part is. Is there something preventing ASCN members from opening opening convos and asking players to join? Do bob use h4x to force ASCN members to accept 2 month old alts? Every character, corp, and alliance in eve starts with the same tools everyone else has. Who is really to blame for spys on ASCN TS? I'd say the only person who is at fault there is the person who hit the "accept application" button. Xetic loves to blame bob for their own leaderships incompetence. That's ok though. I think the avg ASCN member is slowly understanding how bad their leadership really is. BoB is not the source of your alliances troubles and weaknesses. We just exposed them. Everything that is happening to ASCN right now is their own fault. If Xetic high command were half as good of leaders as they claim to be they would accept personal responsibility for their poor recruitment policies then make an effort to change them. However just like with every other problem they have it seems their fear of losing power takes priority over the betterment of their alliance. Interesting how you view this subject now. I remember you looked at this issue from a different angle when you were heading an alliance during a war with ATUK. Could you answer the same questions regarding FE and ATUK then? Why did ATUK have tons of spies on FE TS. Or what was preventing FE from planting many spies on ATUK TS. I think you know the answer. I know it too, but public forums is not the best place to discuss this staff. I only wonder how a simple change in corp/alliance ticker make ppl think totally different on the same issue. P.S. CCP pretty please fix the damn forums. hitting "post reply" to get to log in screen times and times again != fun.
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 07:59:00 - [373] Originally by: KSUDruid Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson You know Pyrex almost as well as I do m8, weather or not he chooses to further comment on this or not is his decission, but i have two comments to attach. 1. This is not a subject suited for this forum.. at all 1. I think it probably is the correct forum Gil, cause he's trying to use a supposed 'threat' as policital propaganda and motivation to fight us. If there really was a threat made like that, than even attempting to do anything with it other than reporting it to the GMs and possibly the offending members CEO, along with proper proof (ie screenshots, logs, timestamps ect). You know as well as I do taking something serious like that and twisting it into propagand is damn near as bad as the offense itself. Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson 2. Ask yourself if he would make something like this up and draw your own conclusions 2. TBH old friend, I've seen alot of people say things way outside the scope of normal in-game smacktalk these past few weeks. I'd like to think no one would make up something like this, but judging by some of the accusations that have been thrown my way by people I used to know.. I have to really wonder . Eve forum Rules { 9. Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned. 10. Warnings and bans are not to be discussed on the forum. Such matters shall remain private between the CCP and the user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through e-mail or private messaging. Likewise, discussions regarding moderator actions are not permitted on the forum. If you have questions regarding a post or thread, please contact [email protected]. If we can agree that even if pyrex could post the proof you wanted, it could well cause him to get a ban himself. Drop this subject on this forum
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 08:17:00 - [374] Originally by: ChaosOne If we can agree that even if pyrex could post the proof you wanted, it could well cause him to get a ban himself. Drop this subject on this forum Which is why he offered hte eve-mail option
Trev Kachanov Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 08:19:00 - [375] Originally by: Jasmine Dupre I want a tech2 Pony Tech2 Horsey ftw!
Nyk0n Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.10.31 08:39:00 - [376] Sorry Mouldy there is only 1 Pendulum you will forever fail b4 the original and best;) Actully this has to be possibly the most rollocks filled post you have made;) When do they get to be dead? Soon eh? Sometimes the truth hurts.......... Dosnt stop it being true
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 08:53:00 - [377] Still waiting to here why you need to make up such tripe in a game about us Pyrex, come on, spit it out.
LoxyRider Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.31 09:01:00 - [378] Originally by: Nyk0n Sorry Mouldy there is only 1 Pendulum you will forever fail b4 the original and best;) Actully this has to be possibly the most rollocks filled post you have made;) When do they get to be dead? Soon eh? Upload another mp3 not related to eve and i'l get my ban stick out .
Ashen Brarn Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 09:06:00 - [379] Originally by: iceyreloaded I want a pony Originally by: Jasmine Dupre I want a tech2 Pony Pony? ---
Jasmine Dupre Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 09:45:00 - [380] Originally by: Ashen Brarn Originally by: iceyreloaded I want a pony Originally by: Jasmine Dupre I want a tech2 Pony Pony? lol thanks for the humor i love it :)
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.31 10:00:00 - [381] The talk of in-game death threats is frankly pathetic. One mail to the mods and the account responsible is banned forever. Bringing it on here is pointless, and actually causes me to think the person who claims such things is lying about it. And even if it were true, why worry about it. You havent given away your RL name and address, right. Its just some worked up little geek blowing hot air.
Dragutinovic Caldari Storm Thesis	Posted - 2006.10.31 11:06:00 - [382] Originally by: Butter Dog The talk of in-game death threats is frankly pathetic. One mail to the mods and the account responsible is banned forever. You wish . _____________ Im back !
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.31 12:03:00 - [383] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Dragutinovic Originally by: Butter Dog The talk of in-game death threats is frankly pathetic. One mail to the mods and the account responsible is banned forever. You wish . Go ahead and try it, then. Send me a mail, make it sincere so I am 'fearful' for my RL. We'll see how long your account lasts. I give you 24 hours. If CCP confirms that the threatening mail is authentic, they don't screw around with this stuff. Zero tolerance is pretty much the word here. I've seen it happen twice now. Some people really don't like mercs... - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.31 12:05:00 - [384] Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson You know Pyrex almost as well as I do m8, weather or not he chooses to further comment on this or not is his decission, but i have two comments to attach. 1. This is not a subject suited for this forum.. at all 2. Ask yourself if he would make something like this up and draw your own conclusions /Gil If he doesnt want to share the name of this person then yes, he obviously did make it up. The solution is simple, petition the person(s) who threatend you and have them banned. If the GM's dont feel like enforcing rules today then contact a Bob CEO and have the person kicked out of Bob. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Spartac0 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 12:13:00 - [385] Edited by: Spartac0 on 31/10/2006 12:15:27 the expression "Divide and Conquer" comes to mind. nice move in fountain ASCN. You divide... We conquer ;-) What we do in life... Echoes in Eternity.
Dragutinovic Caldari Storm Thesis	Posted - 2006.10.31 13:28:00 - [386] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Dragutinovic Originally by: Butter Dog The talk of in-game death threats is frankly pathetic. One mail to the mods and the account responsible is banned forever. You wish . Go ahead and try it, then. Send me a mail, make it sincere so I am 'fearful' for my RL. We'll see how long your account lasts. I give you 24 hours. If CCP confirms that the threatening mail is authentic, they don't screw around with this stuff. Zero tolerance is pretty much the word here. I've seen it happen twice now. Some people really don't like mercs... Ive been harassed and threatend quite a few times in the past , yes even death threats . Accounts have been reported and didnt recieve a ban . I guess " selective " comes to mind . Besides other well known violators of rules are still not banned . _____________ Im back !
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 13:44:00 - [387] Originally by: Butter Dog The talk of in-game death threats is frankly pathetic. One mail to the mods and the account responsible is banned forever. Bringing it on here is pointless, and actually causes me to think the person who claims such things is lying about it. First off, he didnt bring it in here, that was done courtesy of BOB who quoted it from ascn forums. I personally spoke with him when he recieved the threats, so i belive him 100%. He has nothing to prove to anyone in here. The people were reported through the correct channels and to the best of my knowledge delt with by ccp. You can ask for proof as much as you want, i highly doubt thats gonna happen. Any proof given would most likly be called fake. Let the matter drop, its been delt with by ccp.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.31 13:52:00 - [388] Originally by: ChaosOne Originally by: Butter Dog The talk of in-game death threats is frankly pathetic. One mail to the mods and the account responsible is banned forever. Bringing it on here is pointless, and actually causes me to think the person who claims such things is lying about it. First off, he didnt bring it in here, that was done courtesy of BOB who quoted it from ascn forums. I personally spoke with him when he recieved the threats, so i belive him 100%. He has nothing to prove to anyone in here. The people were reported through the correct channels and to the best of my knowledge delt with by ccp. You can ask for proof as much as you want, i highly doubt thats gonna happen. Any proof given would most likly be called fake. Let the matter drop, its been delt with by ccp. Actually, he DOES have EVERYTHING to prove. Not a single member from BoB has been banned for harassing anyone in EvE. Not a single one. We keep in very close contact with EVERY member of BoB. So, that means that either CCP hasn't dealt with it (a shame) - in which case we WILL deal with it - or Pyrex is lieing. Whichever one it is we do not wish to be associated with such behaviour, so he can either do the whole community a favour and name and shame, or he can stfu.
ChaosOne Caldari DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 14:05:00 - [389] Edited by: ChaosOne on 31/10/2006 14:05:37 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: ChaosOne Originally by: Butter Dog The talk of in-game death threats is frankly pathetic. One mail to the mods and the account responsible is banned forever. Bringing it on here is pointless, and actually causes me to think the person who claims such things is lying about it. First off, he didnt bring it in here, that was done courtesy of BOB who quoted it from ascn forums. I personally spoke with him when he recieved the threats, so i belive him 100%. He has nothing to prove to anyone in here. The people were reported through the correct channels and to the best of my knowledge delt with by ccp. You can ask for proof as much as you want, i highly doubt thats gonna happen. Any proof given would most likly be called fake. Let the matter drop, its been delt with by ccp. Actually, he DOES have EVERYTHING to prove. Not a single member from BoB has been banned for harassing anyone in EvE. Not a single one. We keep in very close contact with EVERY member of BoB. So, that means that either CCP hasn't dealt with it (a shame) - in which case we WILL deal with it - or Pyrex is lieing. Whichever one it is we do not wish to be associated with such behaviour, so he can either do the whole community a favour and name and shame, or he can stfu. sheeeeeeeee
Dragutinovic Caldari Storm Thesis	Posted - 2006.10.31 14:05:00 - [390] Yeah a real shame isnt it . _____________ Im back !

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