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Maldon Perriera	Posted - 2006.10.29 14:50:00 - [1] Fellow Gallente where is the outrage? Are we going to sit by while our rights our stolen? Do you truly believe that a caldari and amarr loving president would win relection in our great country! THE ELECTION WAS FIXED! Yes the corporate interests that supported fortrain fixed the election to insure that trade with the facist caldari and the religous extremist Amarr continues! I DEMAND A RECOUNT!! Gallente brothers do not let this election be stolen from you by CONCORD meddelers or corporate interests RISE UP!
Kizme	Posted - 2006.10.29 15:23:00 - [2] so, you would rather have the racist psycho isolationist freak.... thanks for positioning yourself though, may rage of the sane come uppon RONA Midgard Academy
Damien Crescent Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.29 15:33:00 - [3] Originally by: Kizme so, you would rather have the racist psycho isolationist freak.... thanks for positioning yourself though, may rage of the sane come uppon RONA Midgard Academy I would have liked to be able to vote.. but i guess youre not allowed to vote if you dont support Foiritan... ------------------- Damien Crescent, Scope Reporter.
Britannica	Posted - 2006.10.29 15:54:00 - [4] from what I have seen of these events it was not corporations that fixed this, but rather Minmatar and Intaki living within federation borders wanting a president who can accept them as equals
Jurskjeld Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2006.10.29 17:02:00 - [5] Hopefully reforms will now spawn that work in favour of the Matari immigrants, that will ensure reduction in the poverty witnessed among the homeless. -- Amarr scum be pushing gas, Caldari dogs are kissing their ***. Gallente and Minmatar together stand forever as the holy band.
Shintoko Akahoshi Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.10.29 17:07:00 - [6] I'm personally happy that Foiritan won the election. I think he's done more for the Federation - and the benefit of GalFed citizens - than Blaque could ever have done. That said, I've also got to respect Senator Blaque for his statements supporting the president-elect, in his concession speech. Evidently some people in the Blaque camp still love a democracy. Omerta Syndicate Biotechnical Research
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.29 17:22:00 - [7] Suspicion of a rigged election, voter suppresion, corporate conspiracy theories.... Yes the Gallente election is a clear example of "Democracy" at work and why it is a failure. I recently conducted a sermon on this very issue and why it was doomed from inception. SERMON - GALLENTE DEMOCRACY AN ELECTION OF DESPAIR How can you "vote" for a leader when the only true leader is God? Now you see the folly of your "Democracy" and the results. Hardly a mandate the "winner" barely won by one percent. That in itself means nearly half the voters DIDNT want him. Compare that to Amarr where ALL want God as a ruler. Such a failure is to be expected from the people that brought us holovids and drugs. Archbishop PIE Priest PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Shintoko Akahoshi Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.10.29 18:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Archbishop Compare that to Amarr where ALL want God as a ruler. Such a failure is to be expected... I'm sorry? What were you saying here? I wasn't paying attention, I was reading about our new leader... Omerta Syndicate Biotechnical Research
Tek'a Rain Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.10.29 18:54:00 - [9] Archi' has trouble paying attention to details like facts, or truth. terrible affliction, that amarr disease.. lets see.. we could have a peaceful, bridge-building forward thinker concerned with the rights of all people.. or we could have an almost cartoon-like supernationalist boogieman who echos of fascist doctrine long past.. I think the right man won. Foiritan Is Our Man
Damien Crescent Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.29 19:03:00 - [10] Originally by: Tek'a Rain Archi' has trouble paying attention to details like facts, or truth. terrible affliction, that amarr disease.. lets see.. we could have a peaceful, bridge-building forward thinker concerned with the rights of all people.. or we could have an almost cartoon-like supernationalist boogieman who echos of fascist doctrine long past.. I think the right man won. Actually the peaceful, bridge-building forward thinker concerned with the rights of all people was forced out of the elections by the lieing, cheating and pocketlining bastard. On top of that, a lot of voters where 'excluded' from the elections for 'security purposes'. ------------------- Damien Crescent, Scope Reporter.

Maldon Perriera	Posted - 2006.10.29 19:21:00 - [11] Midguard academy is apolitical my views are no ones but my own I want to make that clear. As for the amarr I would say whoose God is your leader? A god that endorses slavery? That is not the god I whorship. Seperate is not unequal, but do we really want a president who doesn't believe in upliffting the millitary? I am not alone in my views many of the planet bound feel the way I do. Do you really think there are enough intaki to make the kind of difference in this election? No. How exactly is it facist to not want people to defect from the country? Are we a country or merly a collection of equal states? WE ARE A COUNTRY. A country you do not have the right to leave at your whim. How would the cldari act if one of their systems wanted to defect to the minitar or the amar? The same way we acted when they wanted to defect do not fool yourselves.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.29 19:41:00 - [12] Originally by: Britannica from what I have seen of these events it was not corporations that fixed this, but rather Minmatar and Intaki living within federation borders wanting a president who can accept them as equals It's ironic that the majority of people who voted for someone who actually believes in equality, weren't Gallente. Afterall, the Gallente love freedom and equality... It's funny how Federation pilots cry about not being allowed to vote. I bet many of you are so disconnected from the planetbound populations that you haven't a clue what's going on in your own 'home', of which some of you do not even reside. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Damien Crescent Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.29 21:32:00 - [13] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia It's funny how Federation pilots cry about not being allowed to vote. I bet many of you are so disconnected from the planetbound populations that you haven't a clue what's going on in your own 'home', of which some of you do not even reside. I fail to see how this is relevant to anything, the foundation of the Federation used to be that every single citizen carries an equal voice regardeless of race, occupation, social status or whether theyre planet bound or a capsuleer. Its regretable that the Federation is no longer the shining beacon of freedom it once was. ------------------- Damien Crescent, Scope Reporter.
Victor Valka Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.29 22:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Maldon Perriera Fellow Gallente where is the outrage? Are we going to sit by while our rights our stolen? Do you truly believe that a caldari and amarr loving president would win relection in our great country! THE ELECTION WAS FIXED! Yes the corporate interests that supported fortrain fixed the election to insure that trade with the facist caldari and the religous extremist Amarr continues! I DEMAND A RECOUNT!! Gallente brothers do not let this election be stolen from you by CONCORD meddelers or corporate interests RISE UP! I think you are trippin'. Lay off the X-Instinct.
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.29 23:07:00 - [15] Well I took the time to vote. ;p
Damien Crescent Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.29 23:14:00 - [16] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Well I took the time to vote. ;p Vote for what? You, along with the rest of us where not allowed to vote in the election. Our voices are meaningless. ------------------- Damien Crescent, Scope Reporter.
Tyr Vaantau Amarr Peregrin Avionics	Posted - 2006.10.29 23:18:00 - [17] Personally, I'm glad that Foiritan won. It's one step backwards from full out war.
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.29 23:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Damien Crescent Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Well I took the time to vote. ;p Vote for what? You, along with the rest of us where not allowed to vote in the election. Our voices are meaningless. I don't know where this meme that pod pilots weren't allowed to vote started, but it's a rather vicious one. Polling places were open at several Fed-owned stations as well as many of the schools, or alternately you could go down planetside. I'm based out of the Fed Navy station in Stacmon and had to go through a lot of red tape to get an absentee ballot (as I'm still regestred planetside in Bourynes, haven't been in Placid long enough), but I did indeed vote against Blaque in the presidential election. ((OOC: Just because CCP didn't have an official vote doesn't mean that pilots were barred from voting IC. That's my story and I'm sticking to it unless a higher up wants to correct me.))
Eden Ramani INTAKI UNION	Posted - 2006.10.29 23:49:00 - [19] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Originally by: Damien Crescent Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Well I took the time to vote. ;p Vote for what? You, along with the rest of us where not allowed to vote in the election. Our voices are meaningless. I don't know where this meme that pod pilots weren't allowed to vote started, but it's a rather vicious one. Polling places were open at several Fed-owned stations as well as many of the schools, or alternately you could go down planetside. I'm based out of the Fed Navy station in Stacmon and had to go through a lot of red tape to get an absentee ballot (as I'm still regestred planetside in Bourynes, haven't been in Placid long enough), but I did indeed vote against Blaque in the presidential election. ((OOC: Just because CCP didn't have an official vote doesn't mean that pilots were barred from voting IC. That's my story and I'm sticking to it unless a higher up wants to correct me.)) All lies. Pod pilots have to take different routs for political change. This complacent ideology of collaboration you harbor is a detriment to the people. Federation Democracy is not Democracy, it is corruption and vile. The near concentration camp creation proves the foul nature of the Federation. It is time for a change, for Separatism. The fleet grows. _________________________________________ Freedom Fighter Media Presents:Intaki History
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.30 00:10:00 - [20] Originally by: Eden Ramani All lies. Pod pilots have to take different routs for political change. This complacent ideology of collaboration you harbor is a detriment to the people. Federation Democracy is not Democracy, it is corruption and vile. The near concentration camp creation proves the foul nature of the Federation. It is time for a change, for Separatism. The fleet grows. If you prefer to believe that I was halucinating for the entire day, be my guest. (For the record, I abhor the use of illegal boosters and the shady characters they fund.) If Blaque had actualy won...well, let's just say that there would be quite a lot less "complacency" and leave it at that. In the comming months we'll be back at the business of dealing with Fortian's many failings but the greater of two evils has been dealt with for now. Considering the history between your corporation and what has recently become mine, I had best insert the obligitory disclaimer that I do not speak for Placid Reborn and nothing I say should be taken as an offical statement of anything but my own views. Nor at this time am I going to touch the sepritism arguements with an Incursus' fang much less a ten foot pole, mostly because most anything I could say about it has been said by someone else allready.

Darion Kell Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.30 01:05:00 - [21] Originally by: Eden Ramani The near concentration camp creation proves the foul nature of the Federation. Well, it's a good thing that Foirtain won the election then. Yes, there is corruption, hatred, and xenophobia within the Federation, if you look closely you'll find it in the Empire, State, and Republic, as well any number of non-affiliated independent corporations, but if anything, this election proved that there's still enough people in the Federation who prefer freedom and diplomacy over fear/war-mongering and xenophobic tendencies. One other thing it also showed, is how disturbingly narrow that margin is between freedom and hatred. Fortunately, it seems that those who are most at risk of losing their freedoms, or who have known what it means not to be free, banded together and helped put Mr. Foirtain over the hump to win the election.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.30 02:38:00 - [22] Originally by: Damien Crescent Originally by: Malthros Zenobia It's funny how Federation pilots cry about not being allowed to vote. I bet many of you are so disconnected from the planetbound populations that you haven't a clue what's going on in your own 'home', of which some of you do not even reside. I fail to see how this is relevant to anything, the foundation of the Federation used to be that every single citizen carries an equal voice regardeless of race, occupation, social status or whether theyre planet bound or a capsuleer. Its regretable that the Federation is no longer the shining beacon of freedom it once was. Your Federation stopped being a shining beacon of freedom a few hundred years ago. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Eden Ramani INTAKI UNION	Posted - 2006.10.30 03:16:00 - [23] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman I had best insert the obligitory disclaimer that I do not speak for Placid Reborn and nothing I say should be taken as an offical statement of anything but my own views. Nor at this time am I going to touch the sepritism arguements with an Incursus' fang much less a ten foot pole, mostly because most anything I could say about it has been said by someone else allready. as a member of the corporation Placid Reborn your views are of course the views of the corporation, or at least a percentage part of what makes the whole view. Placid Reborn is compliant with your ideals or they would do something about it. I never understood why people think their words do not in at least someway reflect their corporation. but regardless the "Sepratism Issue" view of your corporation has already been decided by the public statements of your leadership and on your communications portal. As a member of the corporation Placid Reborn you support their ideals, which in this case are as collaborator with the Federation. Do not expect middle ground neutrality as long as you work for such blatant race traitors. that was a great metaphor though. _________________________________________ Freedom Fighter Media Presents:Intaki History
Darion Kell Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.30 04:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Eden Ramani Originally by: Faraelle Brightman I had best insert the obligitory disclaimer that I do not speak for Placid Reborn and nothing I say should be taken as an offical statement of anything but my own views. Nor at this time am I going to touch the sepritism arguements with an Incursus' fang much less a ten foot pole, mostly because most anything I could say about it has been said by someone else allready. as a member of the corporation Placid Reborn your views are of course the views of the corporation, or at least a percentage part of what makes the whole view. Placid Reborn is compliant with your ideals or they would do something about it. I never understood why people think their words do not in at least someway reflect their corporation. but regardless the "Sepratism Issue" view of your corporation has already been decided by the public statements of your leadership and on your communications portal. As a member of the corporation Placid Reborn you support their ideals, which in this case are as collaborator with the Federation. Do not expect middle ground neutrality as long as you work for such blatant race traitors. that was a great metaphor though. You mean the same way every Ammarian supports slavery, the way every Gallentean is a druggie, every Caldari is an isolationist, and every Matari is a foaming-at-the-mouth terrorist/freedom-fighter? People are all entitled to their own opinions, and there is a distinct difference between what a member of a corporation says and what the corporation's stance on an issue is. I'm sure that if you polled everyone in your corp there would be differences of opinion as well.
Eden Ramani INTAKI UNION	Posted - 2006.10.30 05:08:00 - [25] of course some minor opinions vary, but not on the core issues. you will not find a collaborator among Intaki Union, just like there is no Freedom Fighters among the pro-Federation Placid Reborn. what sort of sorry excuse for a corporation has no center, no view, no combined focus? I assume even for the collaborating race traitors of Placid Reborn you stand by the statements you make. Jalia has been caught in a lie for sure, but for the most you all seem to be honest, if duplicitous in the corruption of the Federation. A corporation is the sum of its parts, if a member says a thing it reflects on that entire group. it may not sum up all of what that group is, but by allowing that person to be a member you are endorsing them for good or ill. _________________________________________ Freedom Fighter Media Presents:Intaki History
Damien Crescent Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.30 09:42:00 - [26] Edited by: Damien Crescent on 30/10/2006 09:50:07 Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Originally by: Damien Crescent Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Well I took the time to vote. ;p Vote for what? You, along with the rest of us where not allowed to vote in the election. Our voices are meaningless. I don't know where this meme that pod pilots weren't allowed to vote started, but it's a rather vicious one. Polling places were open at several Fed-owned stations as well as many of the schools, or alternately you could go down planetside. I'm based out of the Fed Navy station in Stacmon and had to go through a lot of red tape to get an absentee ballot (as I'm still regestred planetside in Bourynes, haven't been in Placid long enough), but I did indeed vote against Blaque in the presidential election. Which case you managed to vote illegally, if you can walk into a random voting booth and managed to cast a vote then im sure other people managed to vote more then once as well. I guess it shows to show how far the Federation has degraded. Originally by: Faraelle Brightman In the comming months we'll be back at the business of dealing with Fortian's many failings but the greater of two evils has been dealt with for now. So you condone or even support the complete and total abuse of his position and power used to force Autrech out of the election? If the Federation had still been the shining star it once was people wouldnt have to pick the 'greater of two evils' but instead would pick the only candidate worthy of representing the Federation. Originally by: Faraelle Brightman ((OOC: Just because CCP didn't have an official vote doesn't mean that pilots were barred from voting IC. That's my story and I'm sticking to it unless a higher up wants to correct me.)) (( CCP creates the PF, if they dont allow us to vote then we as characters are not allowed to vote. I dont care too much though )) ------------------- Damien Crescent, Scope Reporter.
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.30 11:38:00 - [27] Originally by: Damien Crescent Which case you managed to vote illegally, if you can walk into a random voting booth and managed to cast a vote then im sure other people managed to vote more then once as well. There is no "walk into a random voting booth", there are clerks to whom you must present valid ID and ensure you are registered to vote in that district (and ensure that someone doesn't vote twice). Are pod pilots really so ignorant of the electoral process? Have they never voted planetside in elections for local offices? Quote: So you condone or even support the complete and total abuse of his position and power used to force Autrech out of the election? And what evidence of that do you have? (I'd much rather have voted for Autrech too.) Fortian is a lazy jungle sloth who cares more about his comfortable position in the tree than anything going on down below, has gotten fat and complacent from his safe perch and has done little or nothing to adress the Federation's most serious issues, the one closest to me right now being the condition of Placid and the Intaki homeworld. That's what I really think of him. Blaque, on the other hand, is more like an Ammarian slaver hound. Lecuring me about the horrible state of the Federation government is preaching to the choir. I'll still take it, eyes wide open, over the conditions of the Caldari or Ammar (Minmatar societies I tend to respect as well, but I doubt I could really live there without having been born into their culture). I could always pack up and head into space outside the Empires but I do not believe, as the Star Faction does, that becoming a pod pilot makes me a superior being seperate from the rest of the human races. I have friends and family who live on Federation planets and Federation space; I value them and I would not want to sever ties with them. (Blaque's proposed policy of moving Intaki and Matari to ghettos-I-mean-"cultural habitats" would almost certianly have impacted my family negatively, and had it come to pass then I would be back in Bourynes helping them fight it.) Quote: (( CCP creates the PF, if they dont allow us to vote then we as characters are not allowed to vote. I dont care too much though )) ((CCP didn't create Intaki Sepratisim. >:) ))
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2006.10.30 13:55:00 - [28] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman ((CCP didn't create Intaki Sepratisim. >:) )) well no, this sub section of SCC did not, that would be GoGo and a few others. see what a couple of pod pilots can do? Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think.
Kaleigh Doyle Rho Dynamics	Posted - 2006.10.30 15:31:00 - [29] I know I voted, and I'm pretty sure I wasn't under the influence of anything. For those of you frothing over Senator Blaque's alleged xenophobic nature, which was obviously an effective series of attack ads against his credibility by the Foiritan supporters, you'll be happy to note he'll most likely be seated in the Senate for several more years as the leader of the Sociocrat party, where he'll be assisting with the creation of laws and generally maintaining the bureaucracy of the nation. So, if you were worried about his potential as President, you should be doubly concerned about his influence over the law-making body of the nation. Or did you stop to notice that the President isn't responsible for such things? The whole thing is ludicrous, and honestly I'm surprised so many people were duped by the propaganda ads. If it was up to some groups, they'd have you believe he eats young immigrant children and kidnaps Intaki during the night. Personally, I'm quite impressed so many citizens turned out to participate in the voting process and that the people were heard. Perhaps now with the Federation government in one piece, they can move on to the pertinent issues that affect the nation.
Beletre Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.30 16:33:00 - [30] What? You mean actually taking practical action to form a better society, rather than ranting and raving, then going out to shoot at people who rant and rave diffrently then you?? Nah, never happen.

Maldon Perriera	Posted - 2006.10.31 22:59:00 - [31] Originally by: Eden Ramani Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Originally by: Damien Crescent Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Well I took the time to vote. ;p Vote for what? You, along with the rest of us where not allowed to vote in the election. Our voices are meaningless. I don't know where this meme that pod pilots weren't allowed to vote started, but it's a rather vicious one. Polling places were open at several Fed-owned stations as well as many of the schools, or alternately you could go down planetside. I'm based out of the Fed Navy station in Stacmon and had to go through a lot of red tape to get an absentee ballot (as I'm still regestred planetside in Bourynes, haven't been in Placid long enough), but I did indeed vote against Blaque in the presidential election. ((OOC: Just because CCP didn't have an official vote doesn't mean that pilots were barred from voting IC. That's my story and I'm sticking to it unless a higher up wants to correct me.)) All lies. Pod pilots have to take different routs for political change. This complacent ideology of collaboration you harbor is a detriment to the people. Federation Democracy is not Democracy, it is corruption and vile. The near concentration camp creation proves the foul nature of the Federation. It is time for a change, for Separatism. The fleet grows. And this is why we need blaque we need someone who will respect the millitary and use it when it is nessecary!
Redpants Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.11.02 09:43:00 - [32] Edited by: Redpants on 02/11/2006 09:46:46 Edited by: Redpants on 02/11/2006 09:44:27 The great Senator Mentas Blaque akin to an "Amarrian Slaver Hound?" Really Ms. Brightman? I suppose you prefer the incompetence of Foiritan. A man who bumbles about his office daily unable to make decisions about when to crap let alone what's good for the free Gallente people. There is great reason for outrage over these election results. A simple recount of votes will settle this issue. The fact that the vote is so close demands it, otherwise dark forces are surely at work in the Foiritan/CONCORD camps. The Federation is heading nowhere fast. This government is motionless. Foiritan wants only to hold onto this stagnation of our people's progress. Look at the Amarr, those zealots are moving towards their own goals (mad as they may be.) The Caldari State has direction and they are keeping the pace. Even the filthy Minmatar have something keeping the momentum, goals and ends to meet. What does this current administration have on the table I ask? Zero. Senator Blaque has direction and a roadmap for a prosperous Gallente future. He refuses to allow this government to sit by while the other empires pass us in every which way. Blaque is a leader just as the Gallente are leaders. Leaders of manufacturing and engineering, leaders in the arts, leaders of thought and philosphy, and leaders in war. Blaque is more than a visionary in the prime of his time, he is above all a realist who sees how the Intaki and Minmatar are just piggybacking on the prosperity that was so hard fought for in the past. What have they earned from us? Why do we owe them anything? We the Gallente proper do not. Blaque stands for propping up the Federation and working on the problems at home, not sitting around negotiation tables wasting everyones time. The timid voting populace in the remote outlying areas are confused about one thing. Because Blaque cares not for the other empries does not mean racism or inevitable war with them. It above all means that he loves true Gallente first, and he loves the Federation. ________________________________________________________________________________ "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red."
Galen Lang	Posted - 2006.11.02 10:15:00 - [33] Given that the choice was between a warmonger and a corrupt idiot, is it any surprise that many did not vote? What concerns me most is the unusual swing which occurred in the later counts.Overturning such a large defecit with a comparitively small percentage of the electorate indicates to me a that the result is unusual. Unusual results in a "democratic" vote certainly bear very close scrutiny. Am I cynical? Yes, but I have every reason to be. Whats more, I dont believe a recount will actually change anything as there has been ample time now to consolidate any fraud which may have occurred.
Monty Tomasi The Scope	Posted - 2006.11.02 10:51:00 - [34] Originally by: Redpants The Federation is heading nowhere fast. This government is motionless. Foiritan wants only to hold onto this stagnation of our people's progress. Look at the Amarr, those zealots are moving towards their own goals (mad as they may be.) The Caldari State has direction and they are keeping the pace. Even the filthy Minmatar have something keeping the momentum, goals and ends to meet. What does this current administration have on the table I ask? Zero. Redpants, I think that you are using generalizations to simplify matter immensely. Simply because you cannot determine a single unifying goal for the Federation as a whole, does not imply that the Federation has stagnated. There's an old joke about the President of the Federation and the Emperor meeting for a drink. The Emperor sighs and says: "It's hard being the Emperor, I rule over billions of people." To which the President responds: "You think that's hard? I'm the President ruling over billions of Presidents." It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. Archbishop you may see God as the only true leader, but due to the fact that He did not stand as one of the candidates this excludes Him from becoming the leader of the Federation. Religious freedom in the Federation permits numerous faiths to flourish.
Beletre Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:03:00 - [35] Originally by: Redpants Blaque is more than a visionary in the prime of his time, he is above all a realist who sees how the Intaki and Minmatar are just piggybacking on the prosperity that was so hard fought for in the past. Isn't that what all generations do? Build on the prosperity of their ancestors? You seem to be missing the fact that the 'prosperity that was so hard fought for in the past' wasn't fought for by Gallente alone. Intaki fought and died to help build the Federation. Minmatar fought and died to help build the Federation of today. Heck, some of the prosperity of today can be traced back to when the Caldari were still contributing to the Federation. Furthermore, when the president does give an order, who does the work? When a new set of Sentry Guns are commissioned to protect the Gallente public, who is it who writes up the order forms for the various parts? Who is it that pours over the data to confirm the most effective type of Sentry Gun, and the best place to install it? Once the guns are ordered, who is it that fits the pieces together? Who is it that soders the wires, tightens the bolts, loads the equipment into the bays? The Intaki and Minmatar of the Federation do far more then merely 'piggyback'. Without them, the Federation would fall apart. Originally by: Redpants The timid voting populace in the remote outlying areas are confused about one thing. Because Blaque cares not for the other empries does not mean racism or inevitable war with them. It above all means that he loves true Gallente first, and he loves the Federation.((emphasis added)) Just as the Emperor loves True Amarr first? It is exactly this sort of thinking that shows the underlying racism rampant in the Federation. I can only hope you are not equally mistaken about the inevitability of war. I have no desire to see the Federation ripped apart in civil war. Not only for the horrors of the civil war itself, but for the aftermath, when other empires swoop in to divide up the survivors.
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.02 18:27:00 - [36] Originally by: Redpants Edited by: Redpants on 02/11/2006 09:46:46 Edited by: Redpants on 02/11/2006 09:44:27 The great Senator Mentas Blaque akin to an "Amarrian Slaver Hound?" Really Ms. Brightman? I suppose you prefer the incompetence of Foiritan. A man who bumbles about his office daily unable to make decisions about when to crap let alone what's good for the free Gallente people. This wasn't allready clear? Sloths are lazy and look ugly but are generaly otherwise harmless and a few more years of one is survivable, if not particulary disarable. Slaver hounds bite and tear and maim, they tear flesh from limbs and they tear people from their homes ("cultural habitats" anyone?) and they tear families appart (we can only hope the attitue you display to non-Gallentian people is a short-lived trend). Quote: Blaque is more than a visionary in the prime of his time, he is above all a realist who sees how the Intaki and Minmatar are just piggybacking on the prosperity that was so hard fought for in the past. What have they earned from us? Why do we owe them anything? We the Gallente proper do not. I am Intaki. I am also Gallente. That does mean I come of mixed ancestry, but it also means I've been raised among both cultures and as an adult have come to appreciate the best of both. The Gallente legacy is one of freedom and equality, which you seem all to ready to abolish by holding Gallentians as "more equal" than the Intaki, Minmatar, Mannar, Jin-Mei and all the other dozens of smaller ethnicities who make the Federation their home. It is not a question of "owing" anyone anything on either side. LibertT, +galitT, FraternitT - Liberty, equality, Fraternity; brotherhood. The Federation was built by the four founding races working together, we've survived a devistating family feud when the Caldari left and we've grown stronger with every new adoption to the fold. There is no "piggybacking" involved here. You want to call yourself a "true" Gallentian? Then live up to that legacy. Blaque is no true Gallentian when he would willingly cast asside what Gallente stands for: LibertT, +galitT, FraternitT.
Za Po Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.03 17:38:00 - [37] A few comments from outside the Federation: Originally by: Britannica from what I have seen of these events it was not corporations that fixed this, but rather Minmatar and Intaki living within federation borders wanting a president who can accept them as equals True. And, since these are Federation citizens, it cannot be called "fixing the vote" - it's simply called "voting", and Blaque lost at that. Originally by: Archbishop Compare that to Amarr where ALL want God as a ruler. I reckon the Minmatar people forcibly living in Amarr would beg to disagree. Originally by: Damien Crescent Vote for what? You, along with the rest of us where not allowed to vote in the election. Our voices are meaningless. Given that the voter turnout was in the multi-trillion range, with Foiritan's margin being of several billions votes, the votes of a few tens of thousands pod captains would have been meaningless anyway. Maybe the superhuman power we are used to weild can go to one's head... but last time I checked, in the Gallente Federation, it's one man - one vote. Ideologically speaking, I guess that if PCs weren't allowed to vote, it would be a violation of the ideals of your Federation. But don't kid yourself and think it would have made a difference. Originally by: Maldon Perriera And this is why we need blaque we need someone who will respect the millitary and use it when it is nessecary! I am not sure that you were referring to pod captains. If you were, I'd like to mention that most pod captains are private citizens and are not directly employed to their nation's military. Rather, they do mercenary work. ((until faction warfare, at least))


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