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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
88
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:28:27 -
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As of last night Hoplite Brigade have declared war on WINMATAR alliance and within 24 hours its members will be kill on sight.
With Winmatars (and main Corp Biohazards) recent return to the Minmatar Militia no doubt discussions will have been happening across many Minmatar bodies as to how to approach this. Hoplite Brigade are making their position clear with this manoeuvre. We do not beleive that Aslon Seredith has returned to the militia with the Minmatars best interests in mind.
For militia pilots who are not aware of militia history Aslon Seredith is the alliance executor responsible for the minmatar civil war in 2013. His alliance had grown strong and he felt that other militia groups assets would be put to better use in WINMATAR hands, so he started killing other militia groups POSes in order to increase his own wealth and power. When WINMATAR were approached with a joint demand from approximately 10 Minnie militia groups to return the POSes to its previous owner and pay for damages the response was essentially 'make me'. The majority of the Minmatar militia, including Hoplite Brigade declared war and indeed drove his alliance out of the militia.
Instead of finding somewhere else in EVE to play, or trying to atone for past mistakes at this point WINMATAR chose ultimately to join our enemies in Amarr Militia, sinking as low as any ex Minnie militia group can go. Whilst there they were one of the main instigators behind the Amarr militias invasion of Hoplite Brigades warzone staging system of Lulm and subsequently the major Amarr offensive in Huola once again they were defeated by the Minmatar Militia and once again with Hoplite Brigade amongst those who stopped them.
Given this history we feel Aslons decision to return to the Militia under the banner of WINMATAR and Biohazard is an insult aimed at us and all of the Minmatar Militia. We have no reason to believe that if Biohazard and WINMATAR were to regain their former strength that they would behave any differently than before.
Indeed we can even quote Biohazards attitude from their corporations DOTLAN description:
"Glorious Victors in the aftermath of the Minmatar Civil War'13 and BurnHuola'14"
"Biohazard. is a dedicated pvp corporation that chooses targets over security. Our history is rich with war, deception and glory."
Whilst it is unfortunate that we have to give Aslon some more time in the spotlight we are doing this for the benefit of those militia pilots who do not know what they joining/co-operating with. Hoplite Brigade have no issue with the new line members or new corporations within WINMATAR this declaration of war and this statement is here to help you understand what is going on and why. Unfortunately if you opt to remain in WINMATAR/Biohazard then you will be attacked.
This will also mean that Hoplite Brigade pilots will be encouraged not to participate in any militia operations that involve WINMATAR.
If Aslon Serdith and co truly want to rejoin the Minmatar for the militias best interests then that is open to discussion, however at a minimum the WINMATAR alliance and Biohazard corporation would need disbanding. We have no inclination to tiptoe around the issue - Aslon you know where you stand with us.
Nameira o7
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Zanzibar Heroshima
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
48
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Posted - 2015.04.17 10:21:55 -
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Shouldn't you guys learn how to beat your current war targets before getting more? |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
1691
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Posted - 2015.04.17 10:27:40 -
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Good thing top Amarrian secret double agent, Angus Ritchie and the glorious warriors of Scrapheap Mojo are on the case to defend WINMATAR and Biohazard. A bargain too, we only had to buy five washing machines. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35507
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Posted - 2015.04.17 10:29:29 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:We do not beleive that Aslon Seredith has returned to the militia with the Minmatars best interests in mind...
Instead of finding somewhere else in EVE to play, or trying to atone for past mistakes at this point WINMATAR chose ultimately to join our enemies in Amarr Militia, sinking as low as any ex Minnie militia group can go. Whilst there they were one of the main instigators behind the Amarr militias invasion of Hoplite Brigades warzone staging system of Lulm and subsequently the major Amarr offensive in Huola.
And you want to prove that by being hostile towards those who are trying to make a change for the better? You want to greet a returning friend by attacking them? As I recall, you forced Winmatar to defect. YOU forced us out. and it was YOU who started the hostilities.
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? We are Minmatar. We should be helping eachother, not fighting eachother. We should be killing those filthy amarrians, NOT EACHOTHER.
Please, I beg you. call off the hostilities and help us fight the good fight.
FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!
FIGHT FOR MINMATAR!
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Shiva Makoto
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
91
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Posted - 2015.04.17 10:43:07 -
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Liafcipe9000 wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:We do not beleive that Aslon Seredith has returned to the militia with the Minmatars best interests in mind...
Instead of finding somewhere else in EVE to play, or trying to atone for past mistakes at this point WINMATAR chose ultimately to join our enemies in Amarr Militia, sinking as low as any ex Minnie militia group can go. Whilst there they were one of the main instigators behind the Amarr militias invasion of Hoplite Brigades warzone staging system of Lulm and subsequently the major Amarr offensive in Huola...
If Aslon Serdith and co truly want to rejoin the Minmatar for the militias best interests then that is open to discussion, however at a minimum the WINMATAR alliance and Biohazard corporation would need disbanding. And you want to prove that by being hostile towards those who are trying to make a change for the better? You want to greet a returning friend by attacking them? Do you really think that discussions should start with fire? As I recall, you forced Winmatar to defect. YOU forced us out. and it was YOU who initiated hostilities. CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? We are Minmatar. We should be helping eachother, not fighting eachother. We should be killing those filthy amarrians, NOT EACHOTHER. Please, I beg you. call off the hostilities and help us fight the good fight. FIGHT FOR FREEDOM! FIGHT FOR MINMATAR!
You have no idea.
This is the first time i cheer for minmil, kick them out of fw again! |
DeT Resprox
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
304
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Posted - 2015.04.17 11:34:20 -
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Liafcipe9000 wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:We do not beleive that Aslon Seredith has returned to the militia with the Minmatars best interests in mind...
Instead of finding somewhere else in EVE to play, or trying to atone for past mistakes at this point WINMATAR chose ultimately to join our enemies in Amarr Militia, sinking as low as any ex Minnie militia group can go. Whilst there they were one of the main instigators behind the Amarr militias invasion of Hoplite Brigades warzone staging system of Lulm and subsequently the major Amarr offensive in Huola...
If Aslon Serdith and co truly want to rejoin the Minmatar for the militias best interests then that is open to discussion, however at a minimum the WINMATAR alliance and Biohazard corporation would need disbanding. And you want to prove that by being hostile towards those who are trying to make a change for the better? You want to greet a returning friend by attacking them? Do you really think that discussions should start with fire? As I recall, you forced Winmatar to defect. YOU forced us out. and it was YOU who initiated hostilities. CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? We are Minmatar. We should be helping eachother, not fighting eachother. We should be killing those filthy amarrians, NOT EACHOTHER. Please, I beg you. call off the hostilities and help us fight the good fight. FIGHT FOR FREEDOM! FIGHT FOR MINMATAR!
Lol get out of here you deluded buffoon!
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2015.04.17 09:35
Ushra'Khan has declared war on WINMATAR..
Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. If war is due to a corporation at war joining an alliance, then the war starts immediately instead.
**DeT Resprox **
Leader of the Ushra'Khan / founding member
T.R.I.A.D CEO
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Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
288
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Posted - 2015.04.17 12:32:11 -
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Some people take this game too serious.
Thank you for the spotlight I guess,
We're Recruiting. -> read more on www.winmatar.com
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Wanted #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'2014
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Slevin-Kelevra
Sonic Jihad
Diplomatic Immunity.
23
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Posted - 2015.04.17 12:45:45 -
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Lol at you random faction warfare nobody alliances, trying to act all high and mighty because an alliance that actually created content and fun wants to reform.
Unlike you they want to grow the FW community, they created more fun and content at their peak then I have seen come out of FW in the last two years.
So yes, ladies and gentlemen if an inactive, boring, stuck in the old ways corp is what you are looking for then Bio and Winmatar don't want you. However if it is content and fun in Low Sec and FW that you are looking for you can do no better.
http://warptozero.net/
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James Clough
Dirt 'n' Glitter
13
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:11:16 -
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Cripple fight!
#GLITTER http://i.imgur.com/KXyHvqy.jpg
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Estella Osoka
Perkone
Caldari State
568
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:17:54 -
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Someone get me a dumpster-sized bag of popcorn, STAT! |
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agharaster
Hoplite Brigade
16
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:28:33 -
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For EVE sake,
the content they created was talwar blobs, boring as hell, bully behaviours against small minmatar corporations, the aggression of friendly moons and ultimately Shadow Cartel and hisec hub harassers as third party bethphones.
Please don't try to rewrite history, it's all marked fresh in both our memories and blogs and killboards.
The wardec is a message: there is no room in minmatar militia for Winmatar alliance.
Disband both bioharzad and winmatar, apologise, keep your head down and we can start talking, otherwise our guns will talk for us.
Isn't this a freacking content?
P.S. Slevin, The last time Winmatar leadership called us "Nobody alliances" they had their heads crack open by nobody 
o7
agha |
erg cz
Tribal Core
214
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:56:36 -
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With recent POS battles between major pirate alliances in Schoorasana and Bosboger now things in Minmatar FW arena are getting more and more interesting... And now civil war. I think PLEX prices on Rens, Hek and Dodixie should crush very soon ;)) |
Slave Slayer
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
0
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Posted - 2015.04.17 14:30:57 -
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WINMATAR. is recruiting: www.winmatar.com
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/WINMATAR |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
90
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Posted - 2015.04.17 14:35:48 -
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Aslon Seridith wrote:Some people take this game too serious. Thank you for the spotlight I guess, We're Recruiting. -> read more on www.winmatar.com
Then show a little maturity and humility, disband and come back at us without the baggage and an apology then we can consider what to do with you in this game if you want to fly the Minmatar flag. Did you think that you could simply walk back into the militia with your history and start recruiting again? Do you think we would be keen to watch you martial an army again in our back yard especially from the recruitment pool that could feed militia groups of good standing? We have the Amarr and their pirate network to deal with and we may as we'll get this bust up dealt with sooner rather than later before you can cause more damage.
Achieving victory requires sacrifice especially in the Minmatar militia, in defeating you at the height of your power within the civil war we had to sacrifice: time, resources, pilots, corporations and systems to both you and the Amarr to stand up for our friends In the face of your aggression. The Amarr made solid gains whilst we were dealing with you the last time. Minmatar militia look after their own and you chose to leave the club, not only that you then joined the Amarr and attacked us further out of spite.
You have our response - if you have the best interests of the militia at heart and you want back in the club then you need to give us a solid indication that you are not the AWOXers we had to dismantle, sacrificing the entities that you turned on us for seems a fitting demand. |
Philpip
Mutiny Ahoy
The Periphery
117
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Posted - 2015.04.17 14:58:26 -
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I do love how people are demanding, yes demanding that a corp be disbanded and apologies made.
Isn't this the same egotistical, self important behaviour that you are getting your panties in a twist about?
Pot & kettle anyone?
This is a game, people play it how they want to play it. I, from experience, have a deep dislike for FW and plexing so I play the game a different way. I don't come on here and whine about it. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
90
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Posted - 2015.04.17 15:14:46 -
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Philpip wrote:I do love how people are demanding, yes demanding that a corp be disbanded and apologies made.
Isn't this the same egotistical, self important behaviour that you are getting your panties in a twist about?
Pot & kettle anyone?
This is a game, people play it how they want to play it. I, from experience, have a deep dislike for FW and plexing so I play the game a different way. I don't come on here and whine about it.
Likewise I understand that you guys have no interest in FW anymore, I fail to understand why then you want to complain about internal militia politics. We are being perfectly reasonable Aslon Seredith can open negotiations to let him play Minmatar FW again if he makes amends for screwing us over the last time he was involved.
If not then whilst we have no control over who joins the Minnie Militia this is still EVE and might makes right. We are under no obligation to let WINMATAR off the hook without cause. If Aslon wants to play FW with WINMATAR then he go join Gal Mil or the Squids. Sounds like the Amarr are not keen to have them back either. If he really wants to play Minnie FW in WINMATAR then he can do it whilst watching his back very closely...or he can show he is willing to play nice. After all as you say - it's just a game and WINMATAR and Biohazard are also just names right? |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3247
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Posted - 2015.04.17 15:17:46 -
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amarr victor!
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Philpip
Mutiny Ahoy
The Periphery
117
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Posted - 2015.04.17 15:21:52 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Philpip wrote:I do love how people are demanding, yes demanding that a corp be disbanded and apologies made.
Isn't this the same egotistical, self important behaviour that you are getting your panties in a twist about?
Pot & kettle anyone?
This is a game, people play it how they want to play it. I, from experience, have a deep dislike for FW and plexing so I play the game a different way. I don't come on here and whine about it. Likewise I understand that you guys have no interest in FW anymore, I fail to understand why then you want to complain about internal militia politics. We are being perfectly reasonable Aslon Seredith can open negotiations to let him play Minmatar FW again if he makes amends for screwing us over the last time he was involved. If not then whilst we have no control over who joins the Minnie Militia this is still EVE and might makes right. We are under no obligation to let WINMATAR off the hook without cause. If Aslon wants to play FW with WINMATAR then he go join Gal Mil or the Squids. Sounds like the Amarr are not keen to have them back either. If he really wants to play Minnie FW in WINMATAR then he can do it whilst watching his back very closely...or he can show he is willing to play nice. After all as you say - it's just a game and WINMATAR and Biohazard are also just names right?
There was no complaint, merely an observation.
What you clearly missed from my statement is that you have no right to make demands and in doing so is no better than the actions of Bio / Winmatar (which you are also associating with just 1 person).
No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
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Nala Decimal
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
1
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Posted - 2015.04.17 15:30:28 -
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Policy Statement and Operational Strategy For WINMATAR.
WINMATAR. will continue to hold open militia fleets throughout the duration of these and any subsequent wardecs. We will be providing free fitted frigates and destroyers to any pilots who request them.
Our fleets and channels will remain open to all pilots including members of Militia alliances and corporations who decide to wardec us.
We will not be pursuing an offensive campaign against any Minmatar militia alliances or corporations. Members of these identities are free to join our open militia fleets and will be considered friendly when purple.
WINMATAR. will not be instigating any skirmish or opportunistic engagements against militia alliances or corporations.
We will be focusing on militia wide objectives such as the liberation of our home regions eventually moving to an attack on Amarrian sovereign space.
WINMATAR. will not disband.
Biohazard. will not close. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
90
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:08:31 -
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Nala Decimal wrote:Policy Statement and Operational Strategy For WINMATAR.
WINMATAR. will continue to hold open militia fleets throughout the duration of these and any subsequent wardecs. We will be providing free fitted frigates and destroyers to any pilots who request them.
Our fleets and channels will remain open to all pilots including members of Militia alliances and corporations who decide to wardec us.
We will not be pursuing an offensive campaign against any Minmatar militia alliances or corporations. Members of these identities are free to join our open militia fleets and will be considered friendly when purple.
WINMATAR. will not be instigating any skirmish or opportunistic engagements against militia alliances or corporations.
We will be focusing on militia wide objectives such as the liberation of our home regions eventually moving to an attack on Amarrian sovereign space.
WINMATAR. will not disband.
Biohazard. will not close.
As we expected, you are not here to help the militia, this is simply further glory hunting or some sort of twisted Amarr plot. It is your pride that caused your fall the first time which does not seem diminished and God only know what you did to annoy the Amarr to bring you back here. See you in space, I advise you fit stabs :-) |
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Spaceship Bebop
342
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Posted - 2015.04.17 18:44:36 -
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The pendulum is about to swing back, time for Winmatar to move in early and start the farmer pig race to victory once more. There's easy money to be made and when things start to go the other way they can once again pretend it was all their work.
They did it before, it really isn't anything to be surprised about.
I for one am pretty damn happy i won't have to endure those ****** Talwar conga lines again. \o/
pew pew
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Abannans Forum Alt
Justified Chaos
Spaceship Bebop
19
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Posted - 2015.04.17 19:01:37 -
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Learn to let bygones be bygones for gods sake. Civil wars inevitably crush the both of you (see calmil for more information) it's not worth doing it to yourselves. Grow up the pair of you! |
Plato Forko
Percussive Diplomacy
145
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Posted - 2015.04.17 23:13:07 -
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it's kind of sad that this is the top way to generate interest in FW these days. |
Moglarr
Operation Meatshield
83
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Posted - 2015.04.17 23:46:51 -
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Abannans Forum Alt wrote:Learn to let bygones be bygones for gods sake. Civil wars inevitably crush the both of you (see calmil for more information) it's not worth doing it to yourselves. Grow up the pair of you!
Hey, CalMil hasn't had a real civil war for over a year!
Side note, I'd totally back Winmatar joining CalMil. They could come live with me in Tama. We would have open fleets, free ships and good times! It would be fun! |
RonPaul Rox
Justified Chaos
Spaceship Bebop
89
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Posted - 2015.04.18 00:41:47 -
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Moglarr wrote:Abannans Forum Alt wrote:Learn to let bygones be bygones for gods sake. Civil wars inevitably crush the both of you (see calmil for more information) it's not worth doing it to yourselves. Grow up the pair of you! Hey, CalMil hasn't had a real civil war for over a year! Side note, I'd totally back Winmatar joining CalMil. They could come live with me in Tama. We would have open fleets, free ships and good times! It would be fun!
i'm pretty sure they should join gal-mil, we havent had a civil war since... ever? 
and there are several Snuff corps we fight regularly that helped kick them out of win-mil a year ago.
PS can any Amarr dudes let us know why they left? im just curious
http://imgur.com/EGjYLSL
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
7884
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Posted - 2015.04.18 01:05:56 -
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*popcorn*
How did you start?
The SP System
IFW
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3251
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Posted - 2015.04.18 01:51:31 -
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so.. who leads so far in the "war"
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
Space Warriors
850
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Posted - 2015.04.18 07:06:56 -
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farmers goes where it is best to farm. nothing new here |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
The Periphery
505
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Posted - 2015.04.18 07:35:36 -
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Getting in on the popcorn train.
The recent reactivation deal has clearly provided sufficient alts for Alson to have another go. |
Jirai Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
0
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Posted - 2015.04.18 10:53:39 -
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:Getting in on the popcorn train.
The recent reactivation deal has clearly provided sufficient alts for Alson to have another go.
Representing number #17 of Aslon's reactivated one man army |
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Dreaded Vengance
CTRL-Q
Spaceship Bebop
68
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Posted - 2015.04.18 11:03:45 -
[31] - Quote
I think you should agree to only fight in plex's, them timers don't run themselves! |
Slevin-Kelevra
Sonic Jihad
Diplomatic Immunity.
32
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Posted - 2015.04.18 11:14:58 -
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agharaster wrote:For EVE sake, the content they created was talwar blobs, boring as hell, bully behaviours against small minmatar corporations, the aggression of friendly moons and ultimately Shadow Cartel and hisec hub harassers as third party bethphones. Please don't try to rewrite history, it's all marked fresh in both our memories and blogs and killboards. The wardec is a message: there is no room in minmatar militia for Winmatar alliance. Disband both bioharzad and winmatar, apologise, keep your head down and we can start talking, otherwise our guns will talk for us. Isn't this a freacking content? P.S. Slevin, The last time Winmatar leadership called us "Nobody alliances" they had their heads crack open by nobody o7 agha
I love this thread already the delusion is palpable.
One, I am not Winmatar. leadership, I am not part of their rebirth in anyway other than an ex member.
To say their content was talwars only and meaningless is on of the dumbest contradictions I have ever seen, if you were involved back when the first civil war happened you would know that half the reason the minmatar groups disliked Winmatar. and Bio so much was because the did more then camp plex's and farm LP. They had to go above faction warfare to find enjoyable content and got involved with larger pirate alliances in the area.
Your completely deluded mind spews rhetoric about how they are so arrogant blablabla and then you go on to say
Quote:The wardec is a message: there is no room in minmatar militia for Winmatar alliance.
Disband both bioharzad and winmatar, apologise, keep your head down and we can start talking, otherwise our guns will talk for us
literally the most hypocritical thing I have ever seen....
If you think it is only Winmatar. who think you are nobodies then think again, go ahead and read comments on news articles or thread posts, you will see just how much of a joke UK and the rest of the stagnant old guard LP hording minmatar have become.
Are Winmatar and Bio perfect? No. They have some big ego's, the are provocative, and they tend to not follow the rules, but in this you see exactly what made them into what they were. Instead of slot into a a cycle of stagnation, back slapping and circle jerking they chose to push for more.
I wish them all the best for their regrowth, and will reiterate what i said before, if they become anything like what they were before then they will be by far and away the best place to join in faction warfare.
http://warptozero.net/
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35580
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Posted - 2015.04.18 11:16:57 -
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Have you heard of the Nefantar tribe?
During the first Minmatar rebellions, the Nefantar tribe has betrayed their Minmatar brothers. the Nefantar sided with Amarr. but recently the Nefantar tribe has been welcomed back to the Republic. the Nefantar are now our brothers once more.
This is a lesson for us all. Even the worst enemies can turn to the other side and become allies.
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Spaceship Bebop
342
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Posted - 2015.04.18 11:53:34 -
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RonPaul Rox wrote:Moglarr wrote:Abannans Forum Alt wrote:Learn to let bygones be bygones for gods sake. Civil wars inevitably crush the both of you (see calmil for more information) it's not worth doing it to yourselves. Grow up the pair of you! Hey, CalMil hasn't had a real civil war for over a year! Side note, I'd totally back Winmatar joining CalMil. They could come live with me in Tama. We would have open fleets, free ships and good times! It would be fun! i'm pretty sure they should join gal-mil, we havent had a civil war since... ever? and there are several Snuff corps we fight regularly that helped kick them out of win-mil a year ago. PS can any Amarr dudes let us know why they left? im just curious
They only joined the Amarr last time when it was clear that Huola would fall so they would try and pretend it was their work. Once that was done, they got bored and moved on.
pew pew
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Jan van Riebeeck
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.04.18 12:15:37 -
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Unfortunately this coming so soon after the Brave soap opera does not instill quite the same amount of anticipation and popcorn eating. I however eagerly await the coming scenes. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
655
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Posted - 2015.04.18 12:17:48 -
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Just dropping in to advise Aslon not to expect any help from us this time, you were literally the worst bunch of shitlords we ever had to deal with and I highly doubt we'll be wasting our time on you again.
As for the rest of you - feel free to nuke these idiots, just dont touch our **** while you do.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome
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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
The Periphery
506
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Posted - 2015.04.18 15:30:45 -
[37] - Quote
Liafcipe9000 wrote:This is a lesson for us all. Even the worst enemies can turn to the other side and become allies.
I don't think anyone is arguing with this, there has been plenty of movement between amarr and minmatar. Generally people find it easy to get over things if they can respect their enemy. Don't make the mistake that people dislike Winmatar because they blew up some stuff (WBR blew up far more of my stuff and I still flew with them). No, people dislike like winmatar because they were lead by (mostly) a bunch of cretins, who found enough people willing to drink the kool aid.
Darek Castigatus wrote:you were literally the worst bunch of shitlords we ever had to deal with
In Eve when your enemies call you shitlords you are probably ok. When your entire militia and the people you work with call you shitlords you might have a problem. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3252
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Posted - 2015.04.18 18:34:48 -
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Bienator II wrote:so.. who leads so far in the "war"
spoiler warning:
3 wardecs, 2 pages on the forum, 0 kills
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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exiik Shardani
Terpene Conglomerate
26
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Posted - 2015.04.18 18:39:51 -
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Bienator II wrote:Bienator II wrote:so.. who leads so far in the "war" spoiler warning: 3 wardecs, 2 pages on the forum, 0 kills
and your epic win ;-) |
Psychodad Sarain
Calibrated Chaos
Dead Terrorists
2
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Posted - 2015.04.19 02:09:30 -
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This is great where's my popcorn. To see all these GAME players butthurt over a GAME cracks me up. I play this game for stress release from real life and epic battles. I got that when I was in Biohazard. We reignited sleepy corps and a sleepy FW area. In the process, we brought many epic fights that I believe both sides enjoyed, I know I did. Trolls are going to troll to make themselves feel good and try to get a rise out of others. I have posted in the other thread started about Biohazard. so there is no need for me to repeat myself, the right people know my feelings. This should provide plenty of fuel for the trolls, so have at it if it will make you feel better. As for me, I will keep playing a GAME I enjoy without butthurt and hope to find myself in more epic fights since I realize I am only playing a GAME!
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Psychodad Sarain
Calibrated Chaos
Dead Terrorists
2
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Posted - 2015.04.19 02:19:56 -
[41] - Quote
Oh, and as one of Aslon's alts, I approve my message |
Liam Inkuras
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
1527
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Posted - 2015.04.19 05:03:35 -
[42] - Quote
Holy **** Aslon seems like the only guy in this thread who has ever had sex
I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
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Varrinox
Last Whisper
77
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Posted - 2015.04.19 07:26:06 -
[43] - Quote
Will be good for Minmatar to have them back. They fielded more capable fleets on a regular basis than any other Minmatar entity.
Talwars are cunts.
Mantis is a ****.
Other than that welcome back. |
Slevin-Kelevra
Sonic Jihad
Diplomatic Immunity.
35
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Posted - 2015.04.19 09:21:20 -
[44] - Quote
Lol talk about a thread back fire, try and call Bio out and all they end up getting is pro Bio messages.
http://warptozero.net/
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Slevin-Kelevra
Sonic Jihad
Diplomatic Immunity.
35
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Posted - 2015.04.19 09:22:41 -
[45] - Quote
Varrinox wrote:Will be good for Minmatar to have them back. They fielded more capable fleets on a regular basis than any other Minmatar entity.
Talwars are cunts.
Mantis is a ****.
Other than that welcome back.
I am really curious to know what word is so bad it requires censorship when cunts isn't
http://warptozero.net/
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35655
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Posted - 2015.04.19 11:05:31 -
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I see the need to remind everyone that the Minmatar Republic is run by criminals.
Are Winmatar criminals? if so, we most definitely belong in the criminal militia of the Minmatar.
Or maybe this is just the training program?
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35655
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Posted - 2015.04.19 11:08:28 -
[47] - Quote
Liam Inkuras wrote:Holy **** Aslon seems like the only guy in this thread who has ever had sex
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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ABNTanker
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.04.20 03:46:41 -
[48] - Quote
Looks like the talking part is done and I hope this gets sorted quick... |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35727
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Posted - 2015.04.20 06:21:39 -
[49] - Quote
ABNTanker wrote:Looks like the talking part is done and I hope this gets sorted quick...
you had 0 likes, I had to fix the situation!
you are also welcome to the OOPE board.
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Thor Skylar
V A L K L E A R
Ushra'Khan
9
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Posted - 2015.04.20 07:51:55 -
[50] - Quote
James Clough wrote:Cripple fight!
LoL, I fell out of chair laughing.
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Azhu
Sock Robbers Inc.
Low-Class
18
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Posted - 2015.04.20 10:02:24 -
[51] - Quote
Quality content courtesy of WINMATAR. Welcome back Alson, best of luck. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
97
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Posted - 2015.04.20 10:41:46 -
[52] - Quote
So as an update for various interested groups WINMATAR is currently under a war declaration from:
Hoplite Brigade
Ghosts of Deep Space
Ushra'Khan
These three groups account for not only the largest groups in Minmatar Militia but also from a simple glance at kill boards the most active groups also.
In addition Winmatar are under a War Dec from REPUBLIC - a group long associated with the Militia and Forsaken Asylum - high sec station camping types. Even though Scrapheap Mojo have accidently joined the War Dec on Winmatars side they are actually hostile to them.
This accounts for 610 Minmatar Militia pilots/associates of good standing. Not accounting the High Sec mercs of course.
In return Winmatar are receiving official support in joining the war from some other high sec station campers and some ex-Amarr pirates. This has a minimal impact on any of our operations as we are accustomed to using hauler alts if necessary (plus we live in Low Sec) also it is actually a pleasure not to have to worry about gate guns when we run across ex-Amarr pirates who we would happily engage anyway.
I will continue to emphasise that this dispute is not with WINMATAR line members and associated corporations. This is about WINMATAR, Biohazard and our lack of faith in these entities intentions considering these entities past behaviour and a lack of contrition. Our reasonable position remains - if Aslon Seredith and his associates want to participate in the broader militia then that is a possibility. However we do require a concrete positive reason to let you rejoin the club.
Nameira o7 |
Varrinox
Last Whisper
78
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:44:45 -
[53] - Quote
Can't you just call them all cunts and be done with it? No need for the drama |
Estella Osoka
Perkone
Caldari State
577
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Posted - 2015.04.20 13:57:25 -
[54] - Quote
Jirai Seridith wrote:IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 wrote:Getting in on the popcorn train.
The recent reactivation deal has clearly provided sufficient alts for Alson to have another go. Representing number #17 of Aslon's reactivated one man army
When using the "#" symbol, you don't have to write out the word "number". This has been a PSA from your local forum grammar ****. Now back to our regularly scheduled popcorn. |
Maximus Decimal
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
97
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Posted - 2015.04.20 16:37:52 -
[55] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:
This accounts for 610 Minmatar Militia pilots/associates of good standing. Not accounting the High Sec mercs of course.
Congrats you have outdone yourselves on the blobmatar font yet again. the 3moon war saw Losematar. at 1500 pilots vs WINMATAR. at 500. This time round with you at over 600 and WMTR with a whopping 34.
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:I will continue to emphasise that this dispute is not with WINMATAR line members and associated corporations
If this war is not against our line members, Why the **** are you killing WMTR newbros.
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:let you rejoin the club.
How about you take your club... and stick it in your cunts.
Nameira you have splerged too long on this thread with your hypocrisy and your literally nonsensical replies. See post #20 , it really makes no sense. You kept the WINMATAR. diplomatic team waiting while you fumbled decisions around your dusty councils with their outdated view on the war zone. Not to mention the fact for 6 months you have failed to retake your warzone due to incompetence, disorganisation, and lack of coordination. I'm sorry to break it to you but the three groups you represent do not by any means represent the entire militia as you love to claim so much. Your first set of terms were rejected and your counter terms were never clear expecting WMTR to read your mind? or something? I'm at a loss with this one. bouncing between the ideas of a resolution and another ****** up civil war that does more damage than good in the grand scheme of things. **** it, you guys will always be the same no matter the change we tried. You will never be big enough to let it go and it will eat you alive in the end. You will always be driven by your false sense of pride and little clubs who are in fact just big cheeses in a very small deli.
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Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
299
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Posted - 2015.04.20 18:10:48 -
[56] - Quote
I think i've never given so much people a boner by clicking some buttons in a space game. Aiming at my avatar when they see me log into eve. Beware of my girlfriend gentlemen, a mean jealous ogre I tell ya..
We are recruiting and for more information check out www.winmatar.com - currently offering the MOST targets in ANY militia.
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14
Author of: How to win faction warfare in 4 months | Retired 0.0 FC | www.winmatar.com
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agharaster
Hoplite Brigade
22
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Posted - 2015.04.20 19:18:28 -
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Max and Aslon,
stop crying and begging to be welcome in militia.
You WILL NOT have your own room on Minmatar TLF official Teanspeak server and you WILL NOT be welcome in our operations and fleets until the therms are accepted and you disband winmatar and close bioharzad.
Stop crying.
If you want to play for minmatar start with more actions and less tears.
You revealed yourself from the very beginning getting help by highsec griefers (i lol at that), ex amarr noobkillers and dropping relations with nullsec corp like NC. and DT.
We **** on that and so far we are getting tier3 without your help or any other support. VICTORY.
Talking about organization, it's more organized a fricking talwar fleet that roams for hours killing 3 frigates or our SUPER FUNNY Kitchen sink frigs capable of killing billions every night?
07
have fun
i'll get more popcorn in the meantime
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Slave Slayer
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
8
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Posted - 2015.04.20 20:50:59 -
[58] - Quote
agharaster wrote:Max and Aslon,
stop crying and begging to be welcome in militia.
You WILL NOT have your own room on Minmatar TLF official Teanspeak server and you WILL NOT be welcome in our operations and fleets until the therms are accepted and you disband winmatar and close bioharzad.
Stop crying.
If you want to play for minmatar start with more actions and less tears.
You revealed yourself from the very beginning getting help by highsec griefers (i lol at that), ex amarr noobkillers and dropping relations with nullsec corp like NC. and DT.
We **** on that and so far we are getting tier3 without your help or any other support. VICTORY.
Talking about organization, it's more organized a fricking talwar fleet that roams for hours killing 3 frigates or our SUPER FUNNY Kitchen sink frigs capable of killing billions every night?
07
have fun
i'll get more popcorn in the meantime
Think someone needs to organize his posts - they're unreadable, one would almost say he is slamming unto his keyboard. |
Mr Spaxi
Meatshield Bastards
The Bastards.
28
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:16:22 -
[59] - Quote
nevermind.
Blog
The Bastards are recruiting! Check us out @ www.the-bastards.net or join our channel @ DBastards.
Fly hard!
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Slevin-Kelevra
Sonic Jihad
Diplomatic Immunity.
37
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Posted - 2015.04.21 06:33:48 -
[60] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:So as an update for various interested groups WINMATAR is currently under a war declaration from:
Hoplite Brigade
Ghosts of Deep Space
Ushra'Khan
These three groups account for not only the largest groups in Minmatar Militia but also from a simple glance at kill boards the most active groups also.
In addition Winmatar are under a War Dec from REPUBLIC - a group long associated with the Militia and Forsaken Asylum - high sec station camping types. Even though Scrapheap Mojo have accidently joined the War Dec on Winmatars side they are actually hostile to them.
This accounts for 610 Minmatar Militia pilots/associates of good standing. Not accounting the High Sec mercs of course.
In return Winmatar are receiving official support in joining the war from some other high sec station campers and some ex-Amarr pirates. This has a minimal impact on any of our operations as we are accustomed to using hauler alts if necessary (plus we live in Low Sec) also it is actually a pleasure not to have to worry about gate guns when we run across ex-Amarr pirates who we would happily engage anyway.
I will continue to emphasise that this dispute is not with WINMATAR line members and associated corporations. This is about WINMATAR, Biohazard and our lack of faith in these entities intentions considering these entities past behaviour and a lack of contrition. Our reasonable position remains - if Aslon Seredith and his associates want to participate in the broader militia then that is a possibility. However we do require a concrete positive reason to let you rejoin the club.
Nameira o7
I am noticing the amounts of fucks people give is hovering around the 0 mark.
http://warptozero.net/
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Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
744
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Posted - 2015.04.21 07:00:18 -
[61] - Quote
While I respect your stance and sticking to your guns you just handed BIO a fantastic profile raising recruitment tool in this post.
Be measured, enact destruction and when the world burns allow those that lie in ruins to pass your message on. Shouting from the rooftops with barely any kills is a mugs game. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
97
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Posted - 2015.04.21 08:44:22 -
[62] - Quote
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:While I respect your stance and sticking to your guns you just handed BIO a fantastic profile raising recruitment tool in this post.
Be measured, enact destruction and when the world burns allow those that lie in ruins to pass your message on. Shouting from the rooftops with barely any kills is a mugs game.
This war isn't about kills, it's about education and content denial.
Anyone who joins WINMATAR will instantly see 5 war decs against them - even casual research following from that will show 4 of them are from Minmatar Militia groups that have a proven track record. They may even see this thread. All of this helps potential WINMATAR recruits or new recruits to think twice about 'drinking the kool aid'. If people see all of that but choose to stay with them then fair do's but they know where they stand. Obviously it's hard to measure how successful this is being but we are obligated to try.
Content denial is in the form of WINMATAR not being able to participate in what the main militia is doing, where it is making a system push, an I hub bash whatever. Op success in this one certainly.
On the issue of kills fighting is happening - Maximus is simply being careful to use agents who are not on the war dec so we cannot show kills. Max thought it would be funny to get some null sec guys to try and halt the hub bash last night - it didn't work but this is the sort of none sense we were worried about WINMATAR pulling. It is helpful to be proven right in our actions simply check the kill boards for Virmini (whatever it's called) and the NC guys killed and killing us etc were working for Maximal Decimal.
With regards to propaganda for recruiting - yes this policy is a risk, but then Winmatar are normally pretty proficient with their recruitment and propaganda. So having our view strongly pushed is necessary. |
Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
165
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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:09:30 -
[63] - Quote
B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements.
See you on da field ).
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
98
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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:49:21 -
[64] - Quote
Mystical Might wrote:B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements.
See you on da field ).
I fail to see how this makes a practical difference Mystical - you shoot us anyway... |
Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
166
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:12:45 -
[65] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Mystical Might wrote:B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements.
See you on da field ).
I fail to see how this makes a practical difference Mystical - you shoot us anyway... If true I suppose you are confirming that Winmatars declaration that they would not be taking aggressive action against the militia as false then? :)
Shhhhhh - do it for the narrative.
Aslon doesn't seem to mind. Says he's having an absolute ball of a time and doesn't mind anyone else getting involved. I'm assuming any "declarations" that they would "not be taking aggressive actions" against you guys only refers to them hitting your assets. They're too small to do that anyway.
Did they clarify what they meant? |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
98
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:25:38 -
[66] - Quote
Mystical Might wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Mystical Might wrote:B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements.
See you on da field ).
I fail to see how this makes a practical difference Mystical - you shoot us anyway... If true I suppose you are confirming that Winmatars declaration that they would not be taking aggressive action against the militia as false then? :) Shhhhhh - do it for the narrative. Aslon doesn't seem to mind. Says he's having an absolute ball of a time and doesn't mind anyone else getting involved. I'm assuming any "declarations" that they would "not be taking aggressive actions" against you guys only refers to them hitting your assets. They're too small to do that anyway. Did they clarify what they meant?
No idea - we don't believe them anyway. As I said a couple of posts ago they have already tried using some NC guys on us *shrugs*.
Apologies for breaking narrative - *ahem*....
Dastardly Mystical Might your support of the vile traitors of Biohazard has surely secured your doom! Prepare to face the full wrath of Hoplite Brigade! We might just get you into structure once... :)
Incidentally if anyone kicks us out of Lulm we didn't want that system anyway...just saying...
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Nala Decimal
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
10
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:30:25 -
[67] - Quote
Policy Statement and OPSTRAT Updated. See post #19 |
Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
168
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Posted - 2015.04.21 11:47:05 -
[68] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Mystical Might wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Mystical Might wrote:B R E A K I N G N E W S,
Aslon has accepted my offer to halp WINMATAR. in their civil war with the rebellious minmatar elements.
See you on da field ).
I fail to see how this makes a practical difference Mystical - you shoot us anyway... If true I suppose you are confirming that Winmatars declaration that they would not be taking aggressive action against the militia as false then? :) Shhhhhh - do it for the narrative. Aslon doesn't seem to mind. Says he's having an absolute ball of a time and doesn't mind anyone else getting involved. I'm assuming any "declarations" that they would "not be taking aggressive actions" against you guys only refers to them hitting your assets. They're too small to do that anyway. Did they clarify what they meant? No idea - we don't believe them anyway. As I said a couple of posts ago they have already tried using some NC guys on us *shrugs*. Apologies for breaking narrative - *ahem*.... Dastardly Mystical Might your support of the vile traitors of Biohazard has surely secured your doom! Prepare to face the full wrath of Hoplite Brigade! We might just get you into structure once... :) Incidentally if anyone kicks us out of Lulm we didn't want that system anyway...just saying...
Prepare yee anus. Lulm is forfeit!
On a serious note: I'll be watching this conflict from afar most of the time. It seems like it could be interesting. I'll dabble here or there. ) |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
98
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:19:02 -
[69] - Quote
Nala Decimal wrote:Policy Statement and Operational Strategy For WINMATAR.
WINMATAR. will continue to hold open militia fleets throughout the duration of these and any subsequent wardecs. We will be providing free fitted frigates and destroyers to any pilots who request them.
We will be pursuing an offensive campaign against any Minmatar militia alliances or corporations that officially affiliate themselves alongside the currently agressing entities. Members of these identities are will be considered hostile at all times.
WINMATAR. will be instigating but not limiting ourselves to skirmish and opportunistic engagements against militia alliances or corporations involved in a wardec with us.
We will be focusing on objectives such as huntilng and eliminating any legitimate targets we decide on. Engagements with Minmatar militia members will be judged on situational merrit.
WINMATAR. will not disband.
Biohazard. will not close.
[Updated: 20/4]
In a panic at this announcement I checked Winmatars EvE Who activity rating "Probably Active"...
Fight the militia (either yourselves or batphone our enemies/neutrals) and we win - you demonstrate that we were right to take pre-emptive action
Don't fight and find yourself locked out of a significant portion of the Minmatar Militia community - we win
Negotiate and agree to our terms and we both win - we make decent members of the community out of you (hopefully) and swell our numbers
Leave and we win - your attempted return to Minnie FW has been stopped (likewise for going inactive)
Your choice. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35860
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Posted - 2015.04.21 13:57:28 -
[70] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:610 Minmatar Militia pilots/associates
out of which it seems only about a tenth are present...
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:I will continue to emphasise that this dispute is not with WINMATAR line members and associated corporations. This is about WINMATAR, Biohazard and our lack of faith in these entities intentions considering these entities past behaviour and a lack of contrition. Our reasonable position remains - if Aslon Seredith and his associates want to participate in the broader militia then that is a possibility. However we do require a concrete positive reason to let you rejoin the club.
you contradict yourself and also make some jokes while at it:
- a reasonable position does not include wardecs right off the bat.
- you do not own the club and therefore have no right to dictate who joins it.
this attitude won't do any good. that much is certain.
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
98
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Posted - 2015.04.21 14:41:41 -
[71] - Quote
Liafcipe9000 wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:610 Minmatar Militia pilots/associates out of which it seems only about a tenth are present... Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:I will continue to emphasise that this dispute is not with WINMATAR line members and associated corporations. This is about WINMATAR, Biohazard and our lack of faith in these entities intentions considering these entities past behaviour and a lack of contrition. Our reasonable position remains - if Aslon Seredith and his associates want to participate in the broader militia then that is a possibility. However we do require a concrete positive reason to let you rejoin the club. you contradict yourself and also make some jokes while at it: - a reasonable position does not include wardecs right off the bat. - you do not own the club and therefore have no right to dictate who joins it. this attitude won't do any good. that much is certain.
We do not own the club it is true but between GOD5, HPLT and UK we provide the majority of active pilots to major militia operations, the majority of logistical support for moving ships deep into the Warzone, the majority of FC's, the majority of activity for the militia (kills) and the majority of high skill point/veteran pilots with ISK to burn on shiney things to help militia ops. You will be lucky to find a hub bash whose membership is less than 75%% made up of pilots from these groups. If the militia groups who have officially stayed out of this want to pick and choose who to have in fleet then they can but I wouldn't hold your breath.
Our position is reasonable to even give them terms to fly with us at all; the last time WINMATAR were in militia they AWOXed smaller groups because they assumed they were too big to stop. They refused all attempts at diplomatic resolution to the issues back then and no less than 14 militia groups declared war on them. That is what I call an Epic diplomacy fail carried out by utterly unreasonable people. Then they threw their lot in with Amarr militia and generally were obnoxious and unpleasant which is not a pre-requisite for being in Amarr Militia - there are plenty of Amarr who I actually get along fine with as players by the way.
Now they want to return to the militia, after they have alienated some of the Amarr even. With a narrative designed to provoke the Minnie militia (returning Herod of the civil war and the Amarr Militia!), without attempts at courtesy such as contacting militia diplos to try and normalise relations. Without any apology or acknowledgement that they were wrong in their choices. Our three groups (plus REPUBLIC and Scrapheap Mojo I presume) are in no mood to deal with WINMATAR and Biohazard of the old days. We need convincing that the leadership behind these entities have changed, unfortunately they are demonstrating that they still have the same attitude that caused our response to their return. If they have indeed got the same attitude then we will gladly remain at war in order to discourage new militia guys becoming tarnished with their attitude.
Liafcipee9000 I assume you see a side to Aslon and Maximus that the rest of us do not, this 'war' is not aimed at you, you have seemed a reasonable guy when I have flown with you in the past. If you think that those guys deserve a place of respect in the Minmatar Militia then they need to show that they have changed and you need to step up to build bridges. So far we are vindicated in our actions. |
Null Infinity
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2015.04.21 15:27:24 -
[72] - Quote
Well, no one likes traiters. And from what I saw in employment history WINMATAR. leadership are defenetly that kind. Just a side view, you know ;)
New mining menthods: interactive mining
and comet mining
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Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
170
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Posted - 2015.04.21 15:32:41 -
[73] - Quote
Everyone is a traitor in the eyes of HPLT.
Or at least, that's what Agha would have you believe :D. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
102
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Posted - 2015.04.21 15:48:05 -
[74] - Quote
Mystical Might wrote:Everyone is a traitor in the eyes of HPLT.
Or at least, that's what Agha would have you believe :D.
Agha is a passionate guy : D
If you are referring to the ex Minnie guys in The Periphery my personal view is one of disappointment. When I was an ickle Minnie Militia new bro pilots like Annah Kitheran, Suun, Queen Denaerys (Agha as well obviously) etc were my hero's. There I was not knowing how to D-scan or what gate mechanics were, in my T1 badly fitted slasher thinking WOW!!!! whilst being in one of Annahs fleets brawling it out against pirates in a battleship composition, the Pirates drop a Moros on field and we kill it etc.
To get shot by those same guys has advanced my 'bitter vet' scale significantly. I can understand why some people feel badly about the situation. |
Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
170
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:31:03 -
[75] - Quote
Take myself for example Nameira; I shoot anyone and everyone, no matter what their prior standings to me were. Once you lose the standings, there's no reason not to shoot each other, right?
There were ~reasons~ surrounding the discontinuation of blue standings between yourselves and Periphery, which you can always discuss with us elsewhere. To expect anything other than hostility from a neutral entity is interesting. Blue standings never last forever, so I suppose it's a lesson that everyone will learn at some point. Just think of people as content and you'll have no problems turning them into pods (or turning those into dust with the smartbomb wisdom )))) ).
The Periphery is always recruiting if you want to fly with the old guard again. Budding talent isn't stamped out, so we'd have no problems helping you with your FCing and the like.
)))) |
Maximus Decimal
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
97
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:34:07 -
[76] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: we make decent members of the community out of you.
This is the problem right here. You belive that WMTR wants to slot into your predefined notion of what is decent, adhere to your outdated ruleset and become another cog in your machine. WMTR has never, and will never bend the knee to some half-bit, self entitled militia overlords. It is very naive to think that you can achieve this through force, or at all.
Never A Pet |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
102
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:28:25 -
[77] - Quote
Maximus Decimal wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: we make decent members of the community out of you. This is the problem right here. You belive that WMTR wants to slot into your predefined notion of what is decent, adhere to your outdated ruleset and become another cog in your machine. WMTR has never, and will never bend the knee to some half-bit, self entitled militia overlords. It is very naive to think that you can achieve this through force, or at all. Never A Pet
A militia is a community that fights side by side, with respect for every corp or alliance, every TLF new bro or soloist, every militia corp that has drifted off into inactivity but for a few members. All have the respect of their peers as they fight a common enemy in a way they choose with a level of integration they are comfortable with. Just like you cannot take Null sov (currently) without vast numbers and a capital wing you cannot play FW effectively if you don't want to co-exist with your community. You lack this respect for your fellow militia.
Perhaps if you did not see FW in terms of pets and overlords you would not be in this predicament. Is that what you thought the loyalist Minnie's were in the civil war? Pets? How did that go for you? Let us know if you change your outlook. |
agharaster
Hoplite Brigade
23
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:44:48 -
[78] - Quote
Well,
Dear Max, no one here is pretending to be overlord of anything, just saying again and again you will not be welcome in our coalition operations and Teamspeak. That is a stuff for trusted people that are joining to achieve common goals and have fun together.
You will be welcome to come into our arms for big hugs if the political request we made is accomplished.
Dear Mystical,
I admit i raged and the 'puppet thingy' was a hard provocation, but it's a long story and I don't know if people have enough popcorn right now.
In a nutshell
i respect you as a player anger to kill anything and anyone, our gameplay attitude is completely different, maybe one day i'll stop to put all my efforts in the militia and i'll do something else just like you do (hard because i suck at pvp, especially 1v1).
About periphery, i was not expecting favors or blue or help, i just asked from the very first moment to not interfere with the FW or to give fair fights (yeah, me stupid, me non capire).
Well, all i found was annah and his fellas camping and kitaing at the plexes acc gate while we were capping bosboger after the amarr victory (jesus, did i say that?) (shame on me).
From that moment the escalation to more rage and anger has mounted and I failed any attempt to activate diplo contacts.
o/
agha |
Otsdarva IV
Dirt 'n' Glitter
33
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Posted - 2015.04.21 18:42:44 -
[79] - Quote
ITT people who don't know what the word hypocrisy means and aspies. legit need to chill lol
That being said:
Quote:Policy Statement and Operational Strategy For WINMATAR.
WINMATAR. will not disband.
Biohazard. will not close.
Your completely deluded mind spews rhetoric about how they are so arrogant blablabla
This is the problem right here. You belive that WMTR wants to slot into your predefined notion of what is decent, adhere to your outdated ruleset and become another cog in your machine. WMTR has never, and will never bend the knee to some half-bit, self entitled militia overlords. It is very naive to think that you can achieve this through force, or at all.
Congrats I actually cringed so hard I killed myself and all of dng have followed you don't need to fight us anymore.
Slevin-Kelevra wrote:Lol at you random faction warfare nobody alliances, trying to act all high and mighty because an alliance that actually created content and fun wants to reform.
Funny coming from a nobody currently in a nobody alliance. Weren't you talking about hypocrisy in this same thread?
Btw you're meant to clickbait in everypost you make cause ur forums r **** :%)
agharaster wrote:Max and Aslon,
You revealed yourself from the very beginning getting help by highsec griefers (i lol at that), ex amarr noobkillers and dropping relations with nullsec corp like NC. and DT.
so is blaming DT something you do when you lose or just something you do when you think you might lose
In closing,
WINMATAR tried to offer mutual T5 farming rights to DNG in exchange for us letting them farm at T5 also so we can all make isk. Pretty hilarious that Aslon thinks he's in any kind of position to be offering that sort of thing.
It also reminds me of my friend Stalking Mantis, R I P
Oldguard minmatar are probably gonna get their **** pushed in anyway.
Zanzibar Heroshima wrote:Shouldn't you guys learn how to beat your current war targets before getting more?
So yay, looks like 24/7 talwar blobs are coming back if Aslon can keep up with recruiting.
This whole thing is pretty sad.
Good luck to both sides but you're both too spastic to make the thing interesting at this point |
Samwise Everquest
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps
Forsaken Asylum
131
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:50:19 -
[80] - Quote
Good to see WINMATAR back home. Minnies need help. Whether their intentions are honorable or not, who cares. The minnie bitter vets need to get over it. Nothing good comes out of a civil war unless you got alts on the other side :)
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps looking for work. Pras Phil.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
660
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:35:41 -
[81] - Quote
Samwise Everquest wrote:Good to see WINMATAR back home. Minnies need help. Whether their intentions are honorable or not, who cares. Let's face it, Gal Mil and lowsec pirates are the only reason the Minmatar are even alive. The minnie bitter vets need to get over the past. Hell half of them weren't even in the militia when all that **** happened. They are literally bitter for no reason.
Nothing good comes out of a civil war unless you got alts on the other side :)
I dont know, I'm finding it pretty hilarious so far. Its like two one legged men trying to have an asskicking contest.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome
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Slevin-Kelevra
Sonic Jihad
Diplomatic Immunity.
38
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Posted - 2015.04.22 05:50:23 -
[82] - Quote
Otsdarva IV wrote:Slevin-Kelevra wrote:Lol at you random faction warfare nobody alliances, trying to act all high and mighty because an alliance that actually created content and fun wants to reform.
Funny coming from a nobody currently in a nobody alliance. Weren't you talking about hypocrisy in this same thread?
You're correct, however it would only become hypocrisy if I went around stating it was not, which I haven't done:
Quote:the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense
Calling them out for thinking they are more then what they are is not hypocrisy, however if I were to do the same as them it would be....
For example when someone claims others don't know the definition of a word and then goes on to get it wrong themselves.
Quote:
Btw you're meant to clickbait in everypost you make cause ur forums r **** :%)
Ummm, ok? Your **** is bigger than mine I guess?
http://warptozero.net/
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erg cz
Tribal Core
221
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Posted - 2015.04.22 07:37:20 -
[83] - Quote
Mystical Might wrote:Just think of people as content and you'll have no problems turning them into pods (or turning those into dust with the smartbomb wisdom )))) ).
I think here is the core of a problem. FW is the very core of role playing part of eve. Here anyone, who sees other human beings as 'content', is seriously out, IMHO. I just hope you are not like this in a real life. Just do not lie to yourself : your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
If you want to stay pirate without coming into discussion about what kind of a man you are - stay out of FW systems. Here it is about politic, loyalty, spy games and betray. And traitors called traitors as they deserve this. Use to it or move on somewhere else. For me Eve is more than just a shooter and other players are more than content, feeling sorry for you that you lost it. Eve has so many colors and you seems to play in a grey, dull world.
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Philpip
Mutiny Ahoy
The Periphery
133
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:57:41 -
[84] - Quote
erg cz wrote:Mystical Might wrote:Just think of people as content and you'll have no problems turning them into pods (or turning those into dust with the smartbomb wisdom )))) ).
I think here is the core of a problem. FW is the very core of role playing part of eve. Here anyone, who sees other human beings as 'content', is seriously out, IMHO. I just hope you are not like this in a real life. Just do not lie to yourself : your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well. If you want to stay pirate without coming into discussion about what kind of a man you are - stay out of FW systems. Here it is about politic, loyalty, spy games and betray. And traitors called traitors as they deserve this. Use to it or move on somewhere else. For me Eve is more than just a shooter and other players are more than content, feeling sorry for you that you lost it. Eve has so many colors and you seems to play in a grey, dull world.
By your own logic, everyone who has killed someone in-game is therefore destined to become a murderer.
If you want FW systems to be exclusive to FW, fight for them. CCP are not going to make all FW systems hisec so that you can only fight, and be fought by other FW entities.
No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
104
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Posted - 2015.04.22 09:41:45 -
[85] - Quote
Out of curiosity - why on earth have WINMATAR declared war on White Knights of Britannia?
Seems fairly random really. Despite Tribal Force declaring war on you because of your history attacking militia corps smaller than yourselves you are already attacking smaller militia corps who to the best of my knowledge were unaligned in this dispute?
That book you read on diplomacy wasn't 'How to lose friends and alienate people' was it?
*bewildered*
Some goods fights in Eszur last night by the way. Amarr Militia, Civil War Targets lurking in ambush, Pirates, Capital escalations and Minmatar capturing another system. Was good fun :) after the stress wore off of course! |
erg cz
Tribal Core
223
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Posted - 2015.04.22 11:24:22 -
[86] - Quote
Philpip wrote:
By your own logic, everyone who has killed someone in-game is therefore destined to become a murderer.
I pointed out the difference between player base in FW systems and the rest of low sec. Loyalty is not an empty word here - so do not be surprised by reaction. That what my message was all about.
No idea how it is in null sov. systems, but it is pointless to make tiers in non-FW low sec about blues getting red. FW has some story line in its background and that makes differense, IMHO. Role playing persons get in here and make the game more emotional, deeper, if you like... Ppl like that triumvirate guy think they are stronger cause they do not care about betrayal, borders etc... But they are not stronger - they are simply more poor, primitive, so to say. Again - that is only my personal opinion. I am in no position to tell anyone how to play, merely try to explain the reaction of some players, posted here. Reaction, which was wrong in eyes of many, but was not understood properly from my point of view.
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Philpip
Mutiny Ahoy
The Periphery
133
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Posted - 2015.04.22 11:48:06 -
[87] - Quote
erg cz wrote: your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment.
No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
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erg cz
Tribal Core
223
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Posted - 2015.04.22 12:03:26 -
[88] - Quote
Philpip wrote:erg cz wrote: your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment.
My statement is not that wrong, as you think it is. Scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports media violence as a significant factor contributing to increased aggression Media violence, in-game lies... I do believe that it forming your character, regardless how old you are. Some people say: "do not write in internet what you whould not shout out loud in street". Cause internet is a public space. |
Philpip
Mutiny Ahoy
The Periphery
137
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Posted - 2015.04.22 13:24:28 -
[89] - Quote
erg cz wrote:Philpip wrote:erg cz wrote: your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment. My statement is not that wrong, as you think it is. Scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports media violence as a significant factor contributing to increased aggression Media violence, in-game lies... I do believe that it forming your character, regardless how old you are. Some people say: "do not write in internet what you whould not shout out loud in street". Cause internet is a public space.
Genuinely interesting article. I have always used gaming as a means of venting frustration in the same way I have used sport. I would suspect that specific personality traits would be present regardless of whether they 'gamed' or not. Lets be honest, the same link has been made time and time again with violent films.
No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!
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erg cz
Tribal Core
223
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Posted - 2015.04.22 13:59:43 -
[90] - Quote
Philpip wrote:Lets be honest, the same link has been made time and time again with violent films.
"Practice is the mother of learning". What do you "practice", when you watching films? That is passive activity. Interaction in game is bit different, IMHO. False sense of impunity due to IT anonymity tempts the worst out of a man. You practice your worst sides of your character - you degrade in real life as well, IMHO. |
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35914
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Posted - 2015.04.22 18:32:08 -
[91] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:WINMATAR AWOXed smaller groups because they assumed they were too big to stop.
um, what? are you serious?
seriously?
now you're just telling lies to feel confident about your failures
just give up and quit
seriously
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35914
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Posted - 2015.04.22 18:33:46 -
[92] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Out of curiosity - why on earth have WINMATAR declared war on White Knights of Britannia?
Seems fairly random really. Despite Tribal Force declaring war on you because of your history attacking militia corps smaller than yourselves you are already attacking smaller militia corps who to the best of my knowledge were unaligned in this dispute?
That book you read on diplomacy wasn't 'How to lose friends and alienate people' was it?
*bewildered*
Some goods fights in Eszur last night by the way. Amarr Militia, Civil War Targets lurking in ambush, Pirates, Capital escalations and Minmatar capturing another system. Was good fun :) after the stress wore off of course!
They were reposred as awoxers.
Obviously Aslon does not like awoxers.
So he wardec'd awoxers.
any more silly questions you have?
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35914
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Posted - 2015.04.22 18:37:21 -
[93] - Quote
erg cz wrote:I think here is the core of a problem. FW is the very core of role playing part of eve. Here anyone, who sees other human beings as 'content', is seriously out, IMHO. I just hope you are not like this in a real life. Just do not lie to yourself : your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
are you saying you're NOT separating real life from virtual life? are you for real? there's something seriously wrong with you if your virtual life influences your real life.
GET HELP. Fix yourself up. then come back to EVE.
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Maximus Decimal
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
97
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Posted - 2015.04.22 18:51:31 -
[94] - Quote
grrr WINMATAR. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
104
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Posted - 2015.04.22 19:03:06 -
[95] - Quote
Liafcipe9000 wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Out of curiosity - why on earth have WINMATAR declared war on White Knights of Britannia?
Seems fairly random really. Despite Tribal Force declaring war on you because of your history attacking militia corps smaller than yourselves you are already attacking smaller militia corps who to the best of my knowledge were unaligned in this dispute?
That book you read on diplomacy wasn't 'How to lose friends and alienate people' was it?
*bewildered*
Some goods fights in Eszur last night by the way. Amarr Militia, Civil War Targets lurking in ambush, Pirates, Capital escalations and Minmatar capturing another system. Was good fun :) after the stress wore off of course! They were reposred as awoxers. Obviously Aslon does not like awoxers. So he wardec'd awoxers. any more silly questions you have?
So it wasn't because one of their pilots solo'd Max's (who is in NC not Minnie Mil...) 304,000,000 Force Recon ship in a Vexor 10 minutes before Winmatars wardec then? Because if that were the case that would mean delicious WINMATAR tears for everyone else...shame :)
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Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
174
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Posted - 2015.04.22 19:11:36 -
[96] - Quote
FUNNY STORY - I am doing politics as a degree.
better check urself friend (ingameirl).
Psycopaths be comin' at ya )
@Erg Cz or whatever his name is. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
35916
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Posted - 2015.04.22 19:18:32 -
[97] - Quote
Maximus Decimal wrote:grrr WINMATAR.
grrrrrrrrrrrr
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Douglas Nolm
Mutiny Ahoy
The Periphery
97
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Posted - 2015.04.22 19:19:21 -
[98] - Quote
erg cz wrote:Philpip wrote:erg cz wrote: your behavior in virtual world will influence your character in real life. You like to betray here - you will start to lose friends there as well.
No, you implied that how you act in-game is how you will start to act out of game, hence my comment. My statement is not that wrong, as you think it is. Scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports media violence as a significant factor contributing to increased aggression Media violence, in-game lies... I do believe that it forming your character, regardless how old you are. Some people say: "do not write in internet what you whould not shout out loud in street". Cause internet is a public space.
I grew up in the 80's when pacman was the epitome of video gaming, and I had to put 10p in the slot to play it. By that logic I should have gone from playing pacman to running around darkened rooms filled with flashing lights and electronic music whilst munching on pills...
... Oh...
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Otsdarva IV
dirt 'n' glitter
33
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Posted - 2015.04.23 04:20:06 -
[99] - Quote
HA HA HA HA
THIS THREAD IS JUST TOO GOOD. WENT FROM QQ WINMATAR TO IF UR BAD IN GAME UR A BAD PERSON REAL FAST.
Real talk: you're so dumb hahahahahahahahaha
Also aslon you should fit a point to your recon next time |
Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
174
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Posted - 2015.04.23 04:27:17 -
[100] - Quote
Otsdarva IV wrote:HA HA HA HA
THIS THREAD IS JUST TOO GOOD. WENT FROM QQ WINMATAR TO IF UR BAD IN GAME UR A BAD PERSON REAL FAST.
Real talk: you're so dumb hahahahahahahahaha
Also aslon you should fit a point to your recon next time
I bet u shitposte in real life 2 ots ) |
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erg cz
Tribal Core
224
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Posted - 2015.04.23 07:02:14 -
[101] - Quote
Douglas Nolm wrote:
I grew up in the 80's when pacman was the epitome of video gaming, and I had to put 10p in the slot to play it. By that logic I should have gone from playing pacman to running around darkened rooms filled with flashing lights and electronic music whilst munching on pills...
There is huge difference between "move my pixel there" and "I just lie to that virtual character". Cause there is a real person behind this character and you know that. It is perfectly ok to kill the ship of theis person or even pixels of his virtual body with your pixels, but this is MMORP game. Relationships between real ppl is a big part of it. And that aspect of the game is seriosly underestimated in this thread, IMHO. |
Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
174
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Posted - 2015.04.23 09:54:41 -
[102] - Quote
erg cz wrote:Douglas Nolm wrote:
I grew up in the 80's when pacman was the epitome of video gaming, and I had to put 10p in the slot to play it. By that logic I should have gone from playing pacman to running around darkened rooms filled with flashing lights and electronic music whilst munching on pills...
There is huge difference between "move my pixel there" and "I just lie to that virtual character". Cause there is a real person behind this character and you know that. It is perfectly ok to kill the ship of theis person or even pixels of his virtual body with your pixels, but this is MMORP game. Relationships between real ppl is a big part of it. And that aspect of the game is seriosly underestimated in this thread, IMHO.
Well I mean;
I don't betray.
I don't backstab.
I don't awox unless shot first, so it's practically self defense.
I let the people I ransom go.
In fact, how is any of what you've ever typed directed at me? You're still content in my eyes. It doesn't matter who you are behind the screen, it's a game. If we meet in real life, we'll shake hands, you buy me a beer, all is well. I meet you in game (or on the forums), you deliver me some delicious psychoanalytic tears about me being a psycopath and needing help, and all is well.
I'd also like to wager that I have better relationships with "real people" in this game than you do )))))))
Git awn muuuh leeevaaaaaal sooooooony boiz. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis
Spaceship Bebop
412
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Posted - 2015.04.23 11:18:08 -
[103] - Quote
Douglas Nolm wrote:running around darkened rooms filled with flashing lights and electronic music whilst munching on pills...
Wow pacman started the rave culture
BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
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Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
175
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Posted - 2015.04.23 11:29:07 -
[104] - Quote
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Douglas Nolm wrote:running around darkened rooms filled with flashing lights and electronic music whilst munching on pills...
Wow pacman started the rave culture
All Hail.
You are what you eat bby. |
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
196
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Posted - 2015.04.23 12:05:34 -
[105] - Quote
Mystical Might wrote: you buy me a beer, all is well.
Git awn muuuh leeevaaaaaal sooooooony boiz.
Tight as a duck's butte.... .....You buy the beer.
Mmmmm, can I get time cleared for the London meet?
"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
175
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Posted - 2015.04.23 13:08:53 -
[106] - Quote
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:Mystical Might wrote: you buy me a beer, all is well.
Git awn muuuh leeevaaaaaal sooooooony boiz. Tight as a duck's butte.... .....You buy the beer. Mmmmm, can I get time cleared for the London meet?
Hahaha, everyone knows that you buy the FC beer right?
That's how this works right... right guys? 
If you find a London meet, feel free to hit me up with a time and date. If I can make it, I will. ) |
Maximus Decimal
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
98
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Posted - 2015.04.23 13:54:26 -
[107] - Quote
@erg cz
I know a lot of people who play this game in RL and as far as I see it they lean much more towards an 'opposite' of their in game character and reputation. For example I know a scammer, thief, backstabber, spy sort of fellow who flies for [REDACTED] and IRL he's pretty sound, never cheated on his gf, never stole anything. Never has any problems with IRL dramas between friends.
In conclusion I don't think there is any grounds to what you claim at all. |
agharaster
Hoplite Brigade
24
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Posted - 2015.04.23 15:38:10 -
[108] - Quote
as i said multiple time on forums and on local chats:
MYSTICAL is a nice guy.
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Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
302
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Posted - 2015.04.23 16:25:07 -
[109] - Quote
What happend to White-Lotus.
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
175
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Posted - 2015.04.23 16:53:24 -
[110] - Quote
agharaster wrote:as i said multiple time on forums and on local chats:
MYSTICAL is a nice guy.
Drinks are on you Agha )
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
106
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Posted - 2015.04.23 18:20:55 -
[111] - Quote
Aslon Seridith wrote:What happend to White-Lotus.
Finally some more banter - everyone was getting along which is less interesting to read!
White-Lotus disbanded in order to re-organise, HPLT and I-NET were the two active corporations in WL and we had different play styles so we went our separate ways. Both corps are still in the militia and share fleets on occasion. HPLT is as active as it was in WL if not even more so than before.
Next question?
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Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
175
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Posted - 2015.04.23 18:23:24 -
[112] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Aslon Seridith wrote:What happend to White-Lotus. Finally some more banter - everyone was getting along which is less interesting to read! White-Lotus disbanded in order to re-organise, HPLT and I-NET were the two active corporations in WL and we had different play styles so we went our separate ways. Both corps are still in the militia and share fleets on occasion. HPLT is as active as it was in WL if not even more so than before. Next question?
#BurnLulm2015
RSVP |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
106
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Posted - 2015.04.23 18:44:56 -
[113] - Quote
Mystical Might wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Aslon Seridith wrote:What happend to White-Lotus. Finally some more banter - everyone was getting along which is less interesting to read! White-Lotus disbanded in order to re-organise, HPLT and I-NET were the two active corporations in WL and we had different play styles so we went our separate ways. Both corps are still in the militia and share fleets on occasion. HPLT is as active as it was in WL if not even more so than before. Next question? #BurnLulm2015 RSVP
Tell me the date its planned for and I'll check my calendar... =ƒÿç
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Maximus Decimal
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
98
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:12:25 -
[114] - Quote
Mystical Might wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Aslon Seridith wrote:What happend to White-Lotus. Finally some more banter - everyone was getting along which is less interesting to read! White-Lotus disbanded in order to re-organise, HPLT and I-NET were the two active corporations in WL and we had different play styles so we went our separate ways. Both corps are still in the militia and share fleets on occasion. HPLT is as active as it was in WL if not even more so than before. Next question? #BurnLulm2015 RSVP
I'll bring an honourable 3rd party to the party so we can party while we party dawg. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
106
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Posted - 2015.04.24 09:40:42 -
[115] - Quote
Maximus Decimal wrote:Mystical Might wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Aslon Seridith wrote:What happend to White-Lotus. Finally some more banter - everyone was getting along which is less interesting to read! White-Lotus disbanded in order to re-organise, HPLT and I-NET were the two active corporations in WL and we had different play styles so we went our separate ways. Both corps are still in the militia and share fleets on occasion. HPLT is as active as it was in WL if not even more so than before. Next question? #BurnLulm2015 RSVP I'll bring an honourable 3rd party to the party so we can party while we party dawg.
If you are after content then you are welcome, if you are going to wind up 'blobbing' Lulm then we will simply base elsewhere. We are not going to pretend that Hoplites could stop a combined force of The Periphery, NC and Amarr Militia. Whilst we like Lulm it is at the end of the day one system, don't say I didn't warn you :) |
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
302
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:28:51 -
[116] - Quote
Short Summary of this Thread of Butthurt with extra bonus quotes!
1. U'K + Hoplite Brigade declare public war against WINMATAR. - list all kinds of carebear reasons and personal problems
2. Stop fleets because there is now WINMATAR. hovering in local. - "Why are we standing down FC? It's just one of them"
3. Cry out loud in local and militia when one of them is killed in combat. - ""WHY DID U KILL ME?!!!"
4. Leadership of U'K + Hoplite realizes theyre taking too much casualties. Fear a walkout of members. - "Our members cannot PVP Sir."
5. U'K + Hoplite Brigade end their war - losing it.
Wars will end within 24 hours
GF GF - CCP can lock this thread now.
WINMATAR. wrote:We were operating on intel that Hydrogen was the most common element in the universe, apparently we were mis-informed and it is infact BUTTHURT.
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Douglas Nolm
Mutiny Ahoy
The Periphery
97
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:33:51 -
[117] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Maximus Decimal wrote:Mystical Might wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Aslon Seridith wrote:What happend to White-Lotus. Finally some more banter - everyone was getting along which is less interesting to read! White-Lotus disbanded in order to re-organise, HPLT and I-NET were the two active corporations in WL and we had different play styles so we went our separate ways. Both corps are still in the militia and share fleets on occasion. HPLT is as active as it was in WL if not even more so than before. Next question? #BurnLulm2015 RSVP I'll bring an honourable 3rd party to the party so we can party while we party dawg. If you are after content then you are welcome, if you are going to wind up 'blobbing' Lulm then we will simply base elsewhere. We are not going to pretend that Hoplites could stop a combined force of The Periphery, NC and Amarr Militia. Whilst we like Lulm it is at the end of the day one system, don't say I didn't warn you :)
Combined force? AFAIK The Periphery aren't combining our forces with anyone in this war, you're all valid targets. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
106
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:40:29 -
[118] - Quote
Aslon Seridith wrote:Short Summary of this Thread of Butthurt with extra bonus quotes! 1. U'K + Hoplite Brigade declare public war against WINMATAR. - list all kinds of carebear reasons and personal problems2. Stop fleets because there is now WINMATAR. hovering in local. - " Why are we standing down FC? It's just one of them" 3. Cry out loud in local and militia when one of them is killed in combat. - " "WHY DID U KILL ME?!!!" 4. Leadership of U'K + Hoplite realizes theyre taking too much casualties. Fear a walkout of members. - " Our members cannot PVP Sir." 5. U'K + Hoplite Brigade end their war - losing it. Wars will end within 24 hours GF GF - CCP can lock this thread now. WINMATAR. wrote:We were operating on intel that Hydrogen was the most common element in the universe, apparently we were mis-informed and it is infact BUTTHURT.
That's news to me really, I think some people have not chosen to engage you when they are in 'public' fleets so as to not involve militia pilots who have not declared war on you. You know that thing called courtesy.
Not sure about the war ending - I know Hoplite Brigade are letting our War Dec drop so that Scrapheap Mojo can come out of their accidental assist to WINMATAR. Unless the plan has changed in the past 12 hours we will be re declaring once Angus and co are 'free'.
Fear not Aslon the drama will probably still continue. You may want to focus on the almost 15% drop in members from your recent peak, recruitment is not a problem for Tribal Force =ƒÿÄ
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Maximus Decimal
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
98
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Posted - 2015.04.24 16:21:30 -
[119] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: You may want to focus on blah blah blah some more dribble
No Way!.... telling people what to do again? I am jacks complete lack of surprise.
I have no interest in getting NC. involved with this, not to mention I'm a purely grunt there who likes to FC and give the guys who like small gang stuff some content. The fact that you think NC. could give a flying **** about you, WMTR or The Periphery is kinda dumb... I think if they wanted to fight anyone in the area it would be DT. I have been watching the kill boards and DT can drop it like it's hot man that Would be a good fight. As for NC. vs Hoplite... don't flatter yourself that we even care. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
106
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Posted - 2015.04.24 16:33:19 -
[120] - Quote
Maximus Decimal wrote:Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote: You may want to focus on blah blah blah some more dribble
No Way!.... telling people what to do again? I am jacks complete lack of surprise. I have no interest in getting NC. involved with this, not to mention I'm a purely grunt there who likes to FC and give the guys who like small gang stuff some content. The fact that you think NC. could give a flying **** about you, WMTR or The Periphery is kinda dumb... I think if they wanted to fight anyone in the area it would be DT. I have been watching the kill boards and DT can drop it like it's hot man that Would be a good fight. As for NC. vs Hoplite... don't flatter yourself that we even care.
I'm sure we can expect to see them at another I-HUB bash soon Max. I know a few guys in NC who are pretty cool, believe me I have no doubt that NC are not officially affiliated with WNMTR.
I must have struck a nerve with the recruitment jibe I guess! You and Aslon could always make some more alts to recruit if it stung you that much =ƒÿê
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Maximus Decimal
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
99
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Posted - 2015.04.24 16:42:36 -
[121] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:not officially affiliated with WNMTR.
I must have struck a nerve with the recruitment jibe I guess! You and Aslon could always make some more alts to recruit if it stung you that much =ƒÿê
my feels :-( |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
662
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Posted - 2015.04.25 01:11:06 -
[122] - Quote
I was having fun laughing at all of you but this is just getting silly now. it was a ******* cripple fight last time, take note before your forum warrior brigade starts up again Winmatar that it was a cripple fight you managed to lose, and the infestation of shitposting drama llamas has made it even worse this time.
All I asked for was some amusing stupidity but this just proves Militia are officially **** at everything, even drama fueled meltdowns.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome
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Harvog Aeon
Slave Rebellion
0
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Posted - 2015.04.25 10:05:02 -
[123] - Quote
Well higherups in ushrakan refuse to understand that the views of the individual are not those of the corp. I have left my old corp Vanu Sov so as to not involve them in the storm brewing in militia. The heads have refused to speak to me and would appear to be ready to label a corp whose only (non afk) member that was online during the events was myself a traitor. Im leaving now to join Winmatar becuase having been labelled a Winmatar alt/supporter and told repeatedly I will be awoxed is not something I want to drag my old ceo into.
I beseech you enemies of Winmatar if you have any decency you will not punish vanu sov for my actions. If they are dragged in I will never forgive Ushrakan. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
106
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Posted - 2015.04.25 11:40:28 -
[124] - Quote
Harvog Aeon wrote:Well higherups in ushrakan refuse to understand that the views of the individual are not those of the corp. I have left my old corp Vanu Sov so as to not involve them in the storm brewing in militia. The heads have refused to speak to me and would appear to be ready to label a corp whose only (non afk) member that was online during the events was myself a traitor. Im leaving now to join Winmatar becuase having been labelled a Winmatar alt/supporter and told repeatedly I will be awoxed is not something I want to drag my old ceo into.
I beseech you enemies of Winmatar if you have any decency you will not punish vanu sov for my actions. If they are dragged in I will never forgive Ushrakan.
Have you posted on the wrong character? Or I am I missing something?
Assuming I'm missing something if you are accused of being a Spai!!!!!! the strategy of joining the group you are accused of spying for is an interesting one. Good luck dude.
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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
628
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Posted - 2015.04.26 03:11:22 -
[125] - Quote
Harvog Aeon wrote:Well higherups in ushrakan refuse to understand that the views of the individual are not those of the corp. I have left my old corp Vanu Sov so as to not involve them in the storm brewing in militia. The heads have refused to speak to me and would appear to be ready to label a corp whose only (non afk) member that was online during the events was myself a traitor. Im leaving now to join Winmatar becuase having been labelled a Winmatar alt/supporter and told repeatedly I will be awoxed is not something I want to drag my old ceo into.
I beseech you enemies of Winmatar if you have any decency you will not punish vanu sov for my actions. If they are dragged in I will never forgive Ushrakan.
Damn Harvog you didn't stay long, oh well you still got me thinking of playing Planetside again so, GF I suppose. I do have to admit though Nameira has a point, if you are accused of being a supporter of X and then in retaliation go join X you kinda proved the people who said this right in the first place......This gives me an Idea: Harvog I accuse you have being a very rich man who wants to give me, an Amarr milita member, lots and lots of isk :p
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Harvog Aeon
Slave Rebellion
0
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Posted - 2015.04.26 03:35:01 -
[126] - Quote
Im joining becuase having been threatened publicly with being awoxed and having militia members refuse to talk to me. I need someone to guard my back. Im guilty by association for helping a Winmatar pilot with a pirate and joining a public oplexing fleet with three winmatar members in it. The judgement has been made anbd the result is that im guilty. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
106
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Posted - 2015.04.26 07:24:52 -
[127] - Quote
Harvog Aeon wrote:Im joining becuase having been threatened publicly with being awoxed and having militia members refuse to talk to me. I need someone to guard my back. Im guilty by association for helping a Winmatar pilot with a pirate and joining a public oplexing fleet with three winmatar members in it. The judgement has been made anbd the result is that im guilty.
I think you are assuming that we are more organised than we actually are. We are all shooting WINMATAR members we don't have a formal 'suspected sympathiser' list, individuals don't really matter at a coalition level even if you have managed to annoy one or more groups. Even Aslon has been told what we expect if he wants to fly with us, really though if you knew this situation was happening and you choose to fly with WMTR then of course you are going to attract suspicion. Choosing to fly with the people that most of the militia leadership have declared to be enemies shows questionable judgement.
Seriously groups representing over 1000 Militia pilots are now at war with them, the collective wisdom of the militia is not wrong on this one. If you have joined them then leave again, you are not on a Minnie Mil most wanted list.
Anyway I can confidently say that the two objectives we set out for in the war have been met - WMTR cannot function as part of the militia to stab us in the back at a later date having poached potential militia members and grown strong. Their leadership once again are exposed as unreasonable drama-aholics so the reasons why they are not trusted is fresh in the new guys minds. (WMTRs stinking up militia chat hand their posts here have been very useful) Content denial continues to work as WMTR have now got nowhere in the WZ to even dock in safety; hunted by the Amarr, Pirates and Minnie Mil whilst only being able to dock in Minmatar systems.
WMTR can stay active, leave, implode or whatever it no longer matters, op success good try Aslon.
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Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
302
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Posted - 2015.04.26 12:05:29 -
[128] - Quote
Confirming WINMATAR. offers the most pvp content to be found in any FW landscape.
Read more about our history on www.winmatar.com/history
Recruiting more pvpers that give 0 fucks about politics and just want to pewpew.
www.winmatar.com
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
106
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Posted - 2015.04.26 12:44:04 -
[129] - Quote
Aslon Seridith wrote:Confirming WINMATAR. offers the most pvp content to be found in any FW landscape. Read more about our history on www.winmatar.com/historyRecruiting more pvpers that give 0 fucks about politics and just want to pewpew. www.winmatar.com
I would point out each inaccuracy point by point in your version of our shared history. But then you would just edit your site anyway. I look forward to reading all of it, if nothing else you have a promising career writing fiction. If you were a little bit (sorry a lot!)
more skilled diplomatically then you could have gone far.
History is written by the victors Aslon. Not by an alliance exiled by 2 opposing militias comprising 30 (ish) pilots attempting to claim the respective successes of each militia as their own doing.
It was fun playing forum wars with you and Max o/ |
Dreaded Vengance
CTRL-Q
Spaceship Bebop
69
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Posted - 2015.04.26 13:00:18 -
[130] - Quote
Aslon Seridith wrote:Confirming WINMATAR. offers the most pvp content to be found in any FW landscape.
Confirming your alliance KB is mostly red, has only seen 10 active alts pilots this week, most of which don't seem to be v good at le pew pew (looks like Mnemic left)
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James Clough
Dirt 'n' Glitter
19
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Posted - 2015.04.26 13:40:34 -
[131] - Quote
'The Great Minmatar Civil kerfuffle'
#GLITTER http://i.imgur.com/KXyHvqy.jpg
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Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
302
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Posted - 2015.04.26 14:31:06 -
[132] - Quote
www.winmatar.com recruiting now.
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
176
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Posted - 2015.04.26 14:48:12 -
[133] - Quote
Is IT over?
Can I cancel the latest order for Popcorn?
( |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
106
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Posted - 2015.04.26 15:01:30 -
[134] - Quote
Mystical Might wrote:Is IT over?
Can I cancel the latest order for Popcorn?
(
If there is one truth from my experience of Minmatar FW is that it is never truly over with WMTR, I swear someone high up in the militia must have unearthed a space mummies tomb and they are our resulting curse. They may hang around to cause more trouble but they will eventually move on. At which point I wish good luck in EVE until the next time they come back to haunt us (probably when no one is talking about them again and they need some time in the sun). |
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
302
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Posted - 2015.04.26 17:07:39 -
[135] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:
they are our resulting curse.
(
Campaign: Inflict Massive Butthurt - Objective 64 completed.
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:
until the next time they come back to haunt us
(
I like how your gut is already sensing it's future.
We are recruiting - We haunt people - WINMATAR.
Read more on www.winmatar.com
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Araikas Rhal
Hair-Trigger
Prolapse.
8
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Posted - 2015.04.26 20:50:39 -
[136] - Quote
Liafcipe9000 wrote:ABNTanker wrote:Looks like the talking part is done and I hope this gets sorted quick... you had 0 likes, I had to fix the situation! you are also welcome to the OOPE board.
Lets all give this man a like before he ends up like me! Years into the game and still irrelevant. :D
Also, as far as i remember the Minmatar lost because their strongest forces chose to sit and watch the entire warzone burn around them, not being bothered to look past Houla&Co. When Houla finally began to die, all the help they could have had, regardless of WINMATAR's place in the fight, had been killed off, or had simply had enough and could not be bothered to help those too lazy to help anyone but themselves.
DeT Resprox. You are legend, and your work for the Minmatar began at its roots, but some limbs are not worth keeping. I would have thought that realization might have struck you when Rea, Phil, Horak, and the rest left.  For you to lead UK into this fight that will gain nothing seems..... pedantic in the face of your already overwhelming number of real enemies.
Then again, i left FW too long ago, so this post ,like most others i post, should probably just be ignored for more //popcorn// |
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
302
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Posted - 2015.04.27 00:05:22 -
[137] - Quote
Targets just keep increasing today, figured we'd sail in our tiny fleet around the most hostile warzone we've always wanted.
http://winmatar.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=28632727 << they wanted war, here you have it
www.winmatar.com - recruiting warriors.
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Yuri Antollare
Justified Chaos
Spaceship Bebop
118
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Posted - 2015.04.27 04:49:17 -
[138] - Quote
Really, two threads for a corp with just over 100 kills this month.
I think the twentieth highest killer in my corp has more... |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Heiian Conglomerate
1427
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Posted - 2015.04.27 05:30:03 -
[139] - Quote
Yuri Antollare wrote:Really, two threads for a corp with just over 100 kills this month.
I think the twentieth highest killer in my corp has more...
I'm surprised you even posted here.
Minmatar FW threads are like jumping in the kiddie pool.
Sure you'll cool down and get wet - but you're wading in the **** of a bunch of toddlers.
https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
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Yuri Antollare
Justified Chaos
Spaceship Bebop
119
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Posted - 2015.04.27 05:53:12 -
[140] - Quote
IbanezLaney wrote:Yuri Antollare wrote:Really, two threads for a corp with just over 100 kills this month.
I think the twentieth highest killer in my corp has more... I'm surprised you even posted here. Minmatar FW threads are like jumping in the kiddie pool. Sure you'll cool down and get wet - but you're wading in the **** of a bunch of toddlers.
I have no choice, everytime Gallmill does something and posts about it, it gets labelled "circlejerking."
So then we wait for Calmil to do something and talk about it.... and we wait..... and we wait..... |
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ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
633
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Posted - 2015.04.27 06:44:48 -
[141] - Quote
Yuri Antollare wrote:Really, two threads for a corp with just over 100 kills this month.
I think the twentieth highest killer in my corp has more...
To be totally fair what Hoplite, et al are worried about seems to be the potential for Winmatar. to get large again, more than their current battlefield performance, after all Winmatar. could get a few more corps and get much larger quickly.
Still I have to admit, that even in the Amarr/Minmatar warzone (which seems to have a fair bit fewer kills than the Cal/gal one) that seems like a really low amount of activity. The entire alliance wouldn't make the top 10 list in my corp :/ https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98166867/top/ |
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
302
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Posted - 2015.04.27 08:45:00 -
[142] - Quote
ValentinaDLM wrote:Yuri Antollare wrote:Really, two threads for a corp with just over 100 kills this month.
I think the twentieth highest killer in my corp has more... To be totally fair what Hoplite, et al are worried about seems to be the potential for Winmatar. to get large again, more than their current battlefield performance, after all Winmatar. could get a few more corps and get much larger quickly. Still I have to admit, that even in the Amarr/Minmatar warzone (which seems to have a fair bit fewer kills than the Cal/gal one) that seems like a really low amount of activity. The entire alliance wouldn't make the top 10 list in my corp :/ https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98166867/top/
Agreed so what made them think forum tears would not help me? Been pretty much in the spotlight the last days and it's helping me a lot.
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
109
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Posted - 2015.04.27 08:59:54 -
[143] - Quote
Aslon Seridith wrote:ValentinaDLM wrote:Yuri Antollare wrote:Really, two threads for a corp with just over 100 kills this month.
I think the twentieth highest killer in my corp has more... To be totally fair what Hoplite, et al are worried about seems to be the potential for Winmatar. to get large again, more than their current battlefield performance, after all Winmatar. could get a few more corps and get much larger quickly. Still I have to admit, that even in the Amarr/Minmatar warzone (which seems to have a fair bit fewer kills than the Cal/gal one) that seems like a really low amount of activity. The entire alliance wouldn't make the top 10 list in my corp :/ https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98166867/top/ Agreed so what made them think forum tears would not help me? Been pretty much in the spotlight the last days and it's helping me a lot.
You have had no tears from me Aslon, as I said op-success anyone who is joining you now is very likely to be doing so with the deliberate intention of trying to grief the Minmatar Militia instead of simple ignorance. These pilots would never be useful recruits for the Tribal Force coalition and the rest of the Militia. It is likely that they would otherwise be neutrals/pirates/awoxers if they had not joined you. It is nice for us to have most of our potential problem pilots in the militia concentrate themselves into one alliance that we can conveniently war dec.
In addition every time you try to trip up our Hub bashes etc even if you only shoot war targets the rest of the militia sees our point of view further helping to ensure only the chaff join you, call it pest control.
Keep up the good work =ƒÿÄ |
Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
177
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Posted - 2015.04.27 09:17:22 -
[144] - Quote
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Aslon Seridith wrote:ValentinaDLM wrote:Yuri Antollare wrote:Really, two threads for a corp with just over 100 kills this month.
I think the twentieth highest killer in my corp has more... To be totally fair what Hoplite, et al are worried about seems to be the potential for Winmatar. to get large again, more than their current battlefield performance, after all Winmatar. could get a few more corps and get much larger quickly. Still I have to admit, that even in the Amarr/Minmatar warzone (which seems to have a fair bit fewer kills than the Cal/gal one) that seems like a really low amount of activity. The entire alliance wouldn't make the top 10 list in my corp :/ https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98166867/top/ Agreed so what made them think forum tears would not help me? Been pretty much in the spotlight the last days and it's helping me a lot. You have had no tears from me Aslon, as I said op-success anyone who is joining you now is very likely to be doing so with the deliberate intention of trying to grief the Minmatar Militia instead of simple ignorance. These pilots would never be useful recruits for the Tribal Force coalition and the rest of the Militia. It is likely that they would otherwise be neutrals/pirates/awoxers if they had not joined you. It is nice for us to have most of our potential problem pilots in the militia concentrate themselves into one alliance that we can conveniently war dec. In addition every time you try to trip up our Hub bashes etc even if you only shoot war targets the rest of the militia sees our point of view further helping to ensure only the chaff join you, call it pest control. Keep up the good work =ƒÿÄ
Just like to add that hub bash harassment is in fact an activity that requires a permit; please contact myself in regards to purchasing one.
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Null Infinity
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2015.04.27 11:34:04 -
[145] - Quote
Mystical Might wrote:
Just like to add that hub bash harassment is in fact an activity that requires a permit; please contact myself in regards to purchasing one.
-1 for pathetic attempt to copy CODE forum tactics.
New mining menthods: interactive mining
and comet mining
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Master Sergeant MacRobert
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
198
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Posted - 2015.04.27 12:06:13 -
[146] - Quote
Aslon Seridith wrote:Confirming WINMATAR. offers the most pvp content to be found in any FW landscape. Read more about our history on www.winmatar.com/historyRecruiting more pvpers that give 0 fucks about politics and just want to pewpew. www.winmatar.com
Really needs "Must be prepared to learn and perfect Navel Gazing Skills" as part of the recruitment ad, don't you think?
NB: That's Navel not Naval. Although, apparently Omphaloskepsis is good for you.
"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
178
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Posted - 2015.04.27 12:48:05 -
[147] - Quote
Null Infinity wrote:Mystical Might wrote:
Just like to add that hub bash harassment is in fact an activity that requires a permit; please contact myself in regards to purchasing one.
-1 for pathetic attempt to copy CODE forum tactics.
"CODE. Tactics" )))) |
ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
633
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Posted - 2015.04.27 15:24:51 -
[148] - Quote
Null Infinity wrote:Mystical Might wrote:
Just like to add that hub bash harassment is in fact an activity that requires a permit; please contact myself in regards to purchasing one.
-1 for pathetic attempt to copy CODE forum tactics.
I believe the correct response would be "COME AT ME BRO!" posted on your main character not some NPC corp alt.
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Maximus Decimal
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
99
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Posted - 2015.04.27 18:01:22 -
[149] - Quote
grrrr WINMATAR. |
Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel
The Asylum.
799
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Posted - 2015.04.28 03:41:19 -
[150] - Quote
Can't take anything Hoplite Brigade says seriously. My experience with them is that they are pretty much stabbed farmers, just worse cause they don't fit stabs but won't fight anything 99% of the time. |
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
110
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Posted - 2015.04.28 06:36:44 -
[151] - Quote
Dato Koppla wrote:Can't take anything Hoplite Brigade says seriously. My experience with them is that they are pretty much stabbed farmers, just worse cause they don't fit stabs but won't fight anything 99% of the time.
I have no idea who you are so forgive me if I don't lose any sleep, as we are one of the top kills corporations in the militia our pvp inclination speaks for itself. If you are talking about solo pvp there are many reasons why individual pilots don't engage and I know some of our pilots are more interested in solo pvp than others - but as you say if we are not fitting stabs then we are at least considering the option of a fight at any given time.
Try putting away the links/high grade slaves/uppshiping/bait tackle or whatever method of attack is your favourite tactic that contributes to 'solo pvp' being regarded with cynicism in EVE. If you use them it will only work once on me then yes I won't engage the same person solo because frankly I don't use slaves/links/drugs etc, I'm not inclined to feed kills as much as the next player. I know several pirates in the WZ that don't use those tactics who I will solo against, but you have to earn that reputation first.
Let's try not to derail the thread too far though - grrrrrrr WINMATAR. |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
WINMATAR.
36271
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Posted - 2015.04.29 06:19:59 -
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for this thread to be derailed it needs to have been on rails to begin with. given that this thread started in a derailed state, your request for this thread to not be derailed by others is classified as 'obsolete' and is therefore ignored.
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Good fights, all day, every day!
I am a cat.
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Lolz Iminspace
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.05.01 05:50:23 -
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Too much talking going on in this thread, not enough screaming.
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evomad2
The Straw Men
11
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Posted - 2015.05.01 21:30:01 -
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agharaster wrote:Max and Aslon,
stop crying and begging to be welcome in militia.
You WILL NOT have your own room on Minmatar TLF official Teanspeak server and you WILL NOT be welcome in our operations and fleets until the therms are accepted and you disband winmatar and close bioharzad.
Stop crying.
If you want to play for minmatar start with more actions and less tears.
You revealed yourself from the very beginning getting help by highsec griefers (i lol at that), ex amarr noobkillers and dropping relations with nullsec corp like NC. and DT.
We **** on that and so far we are getting tier3 without your help or any other support. VICTORY.
Talking about organization, it's more organized a fricking talwar fleet that roams for hours killing 3 frigates or our SUPER FUNNY Kitchen sink frigs capable of killing billions every night?
07
have fun
i'll get more popcorn in the meantime
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Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
305
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Posted - 2015.05.03 13:11:06 -
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As it seems, the topic makers are either very butthurt or don't whish to update their failure. Ill once again update u all how the progress of this roleplay crusade against WMTR is sailing:
Update:
Currently there are 11 wars against WINMATAR. We're having much fun and even seen groups stop fighting when their members took too much losses. For example Hoplite Brigade surrendered for the 2nd time and the war with U'K also pending to end for a 2nd time in which we strik victorious. .Here's the 2nd round of wars update against the big three: http://i.imgur.com/4JiccWv.png
There's also been some minor wardecs, that ended quickly or which agressors we never met on the battlefield. For example Vanu Republic surrendered for 50M - calling it a joke and good fun - which we applauded and honored their surrender offer.
Recruitment is going very good, we're gaining more members who whish to just PVP and the targets we have atm are the most you'll ever find in low sec. U can read more on www.winmatar.com or evenews24.
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Varrinox
Last Whisper
81
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Posted - 2015.05.03 14:02:07 -
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My ****
So Big.
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
114
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Posted - 2015.05.03 15:15:42 -
[157] - Quote
Aslon Seridith wrote:As it seems, the topic makers are either very butthurt or don't whish to update their failure. Ill once again update u all how the progress of this roleplay crusade against WMTR is sailing: Update: Currently there are 11 wars against WINMATAR. We're having much fun and even seen groups stop fighting when their members took too much losses. For example Hoplite Brigade surrendered for the 2nd time and the war with U'K also pending to end for a 2nd time in which we strik victorious. .Here's the 2nd round of wars update against the big three: http://i.imgur.com/4JiccWv.png
There's also been some minor wardecs, that ended quickly or which agressors we never met on the battlefield. For example Vanu Republic surrendered for 50M - calling it a joke and good fun - which we applauded and honored their surrender offer. Recruitment is going very good, we're gaining more members who whish to just PVP and the targets we have atm are the most you'll ever find in low sec. U can read more on www.winmatar.com or evenews24.
Hello Aslon,
Thanks for reminding us we will press the war dec button again. We had forgotten about you I think, probably as you are so hard to find cruising around in that cloaked recon of yours. Shame the rest of your guys don't have the skill points to avoid PvP like you yes?
Congrats on picking people off at hub bashes or laying recon ambushes in medium plexes. I am truly frightened, let us know when you recruit enough to people that you feel confident in taking advantage of your target rich environment you keep bragging about!
Considering you won't accept the war dec and are always very keen to jump on the forums to pronounce victory when we forget to press the button again you are giving the impression of someone who absolutely does not want to fight us - just saying :)
Nameira
(I'm told UK is also pressing the button again, I suspect they had also forgotten about you, no idea about Vanu Republic.)
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Marley Jr Gong
0
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Posted - 2015.05.03 15:25:17 -
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Delicious drama, I have to say
From the perspective of an old scumbag, who was there with Minmatar Militia, HPLT, Aghi and Frank... before White Lotus, during White Lotus, after White Lotus and during Iron Oxide... and later went fulltime pirate when I had no taregts to shoot at anymore, and then went to slaughter some Amarr from the insight, just for being called "a traitor" by the Minmatar then...
...
.....
@ Nameira Vanis-Tor: who the fck are you??
I remember the good times and the bad times, back then when I was flying with some of the finest people you can fly with in EVE (Aghi, Frank, Velonius...).. but seriously, I never heard of this Nameira Vanis-Tor dude.
by all means, you seem to define some strange rules for being an enough "decent person" to join your somehow elitery "club" of "true Minatar" eh?
But all I read (with the eyes of a true PVPer, who seeks -->FUN<-- in a -->GAME<---, all I see from you is tears of weakness.
It screams weakness so much, that I somehow feel the very strange urge to come back and shoot me some ducks.
Maybe WMTR could provide me with some gunfood?
Seriously thinking about joining that party, for the LOLz :D
no fcks given, seriously
can I have an ARRRRRR
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
114
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Posted - 2015.05.03 16:18:18 -
[159] - Quote
Marley Jr Gong wrote:Delicious drama, I have to say From the perspective of an old scumbag, who was there with Minmatar Militia, HPLT, Aghi and Frank... before White Lotus, during White Lotus, after White Lotus and during Iron Oxide... and later went fulltime pirate when I had no taregts to shoot at anymore, and then went to slaughter some Amarr from the insight, just for being called "a traitor" by the Minmatar then... ... ..... @ Nameira Vanis-Tor: who the fck are you?? I remember the good times and the bad times, back then when I was flying with some of the finest people you can fly with in EVE (Aghi, Frank, Velonius...).. but seriously, I never heard of this Nameira Vanis-Tor dude. by all means, you seem to define some strange rules for being an enough "decent person" to join your somehow elitery "club" of "true Minatar" eh? But all I read (with the eyes of a true PVPer, who seeks -->FUN<-- in a -->GAME<---, all I see from you is tears of weakness. It screams weakness so much, that I somehow feel the very strange urge to come back and shoot me some ducks. Maybe WMTR could provide me with some gunfood? Seriously thinking about joining that party, for the LOLz :D no fcks given, seriously and a very big +1 for WMTR's "we don't ask permission" attitude. I like that... a lot
I could say the same about you my friend, I'm a director in Hoplite Brigade it's always nice to finally meet some old faces that I don't recognise perhaps you should have logged in a little? My campaign medals for the Civil War and Burn Huola are on public display I also FC on occasion. Have fun in WMTR, if you join sounds like you would fit in :) all traitors and corp washouts are welcome to hide with Aslon. You might struggle with the PVP bit though...unless you REALLY like Talwars.
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Marley Jr Gong
0
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Posted - 2015.05.03 17:20:30 -
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well... "my friend"...
bragging medals? --> lol
... oh well, I almost wasted a minute of my precious time to answer this **** and draw my attention towards that weener :D lol
If you "my friend" don't know who I am, I suggest you ask the very few oldschool PVPers in your corp. They might tell you.
CU in space, if you ever find the Undock button, "my friend"...
PS: reading through this entire drama, let me ask a question:
What Incentive would a PVPer have to join the Nameira Vanis-Tor "we are the good soldiers and anyone else is a washout and a traitor" club,
over joining a guy who doesn't give a **** and just undocks a bunch of noob Talwars and fcks with the entire militia and their mamas and just has fun with it? (and another guy who seems to have a lot of fun at the Rens undock, as the KB shows)
For me: well... my bullets are not worth pumping them into your direction "my friend". Good for you. I just do my thing and have fun, where I want, when I want, with who I want...
some things never change
(...just like Aghi being the true (and well respected!) leader of the HPLT, and not this pathetic clown)
YARRRRRR
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agharaster
Hoplite Brigade
25
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Posted - 2015.05.03 17:32:17 -
[161] - Quote
MARLEY!
Get the hell out of here you're missing points.
Nobody is saying that we don't want Winmatards in militia, WE ARE JUST FRUCKING DENYING THEM THE ACCESS TO OUR INTELS AND TEAMSPEAK BECUZ WE DON'T LIKE THEM.
Rople playing in militia is good and fun, you liked it, we still do it.
Please don't harass Nameira, he is on some political stuff and making things better.
o7
agha
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Marley Jr Gong
0
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Posted - 2015.05.03 17:40:03 -
[162] - Quote
agharaster wrote:MARLEY!
Get the hell out of here you're missing points.
Nobody is saying that we don't want Winmatards in militia, WE ARE JUST FRUCKING DENYING THEM THE ACCESS TO OUR INTELS AND TEAMSPEAK BECUZ WE DON'T LIKE THEM.
Rople playing in militia is good and fun, you liked it, we still do it.
Please don't harass Nameira, he is on some political stuff and making things better.
o7
agha
AGHI!
I know that :D
nah just kidding... he should really stop that "good soldier" waynetrain. How do you ever let someone like this become a director. What is happening down there mate?
Seriously, leave the scrubs alone, they are 30 peeps... lately killed one of them, that's when I saw they are back. And looking into it I found this. So I had to say hi.. "Marley style" 
YARRRRRR
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Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
305
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Posted - 2015.05.05 14:09:41 -
[163] - Quote
currently in war with more than 40 000 targets - what are you waiting for?
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Dreaos Mitreep Anstian
Innerflow Inc.
0
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Posted - 2015.05.05 18:17:53 -
[164] - Quote
Marley Jr Gong wrote:Delicious drama, I have to say From the perspective of an old scumbag, who was there with Minmatar Militia, HPLT, Aghi and Frank... before White Lotus, during White Lotus, after White Lotus and during Iron Oxide... and later went fulltime pirate when I had no taregts to shoot at anymore, and then went to slaughter some Amarr from the insight, just for being called "a traitor" by the Minmatar then... ... ..... @ Nameira Vanis-Tor: who the fck are you?? I remember the good times and the bad times, back then when I was flying with some of the finest people you can fly with in EVE (Aghi, Frank, Velonius...).. but seriously, I never heard of this Nameira Vanis-Tor dude. by all means, you seem to define some strange rules for being an enough "decent person" to join your somehow elitery "club" of "true Minatar" eh? But all I read (with the eyes of a true PVPer, who seeks -->FUN<-- in a -->GAME<---, all I see from you is tears of weakness. It screams weakness so much, that I somehow feel the very strange urge to come back and shoot me some ducks. Maybe WMTR could provide me with some gunfood? Seriously thinking about joining that party, for the LOLz :D no fcks given, seriously and a very big +1 for WMTR's "we don't ask permission" attitude. I like that... a lot
Another drama (also) bragging queen joined the party. Good. The more the merrier. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous
The Marmite Collective
570
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Posted - 2015.05.06 05:01:12 -
[165] - Quote
Marmite would be happy to play a helping hand in this fight once again. For a price of course
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis
Spaceship Bebop
414
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Posted - 2015.05.06 14:10:34 -
[166] - Quote
Marmite lolololol
BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.05.07 15:02:03 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts.
The Rules:
27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
I other words, this thread might have some weird turns, but it is not a recruitment thread.
Please feel free to do your recruitment in the appropriate part of the forum .
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Mystical Might
V0LTA
Triumvirate.
186
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Posted - 2015.05.08 09:09:10 -
[168] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed some rule breaking posts. The Rules:27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. I other words, this thread might have some weird turns, but it is not a recruitment thread. Please feel free to do your recruitment in the appropriate part of the forum .
Get R e k t Purgematar.
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