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Dark Nyte
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Posted - 2003.11.06 10:48:00 -
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Is AFK mining considered and exploit and if not why do so many people hate it so much (not macro users i mean indy AFK miners)
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Ranandor
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Posted - 2003.11.06 10:50:00 -
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Yes. It is evil. All who indulge in it must be put to death.
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2003.11.06 10:53:00 -
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/me dies then ...
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Zodiac Laserstorm
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Posted - 2003.11.06 10:54:00 -
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AFK mining is not an exploit. Using Macros to "enhance the experience" is.
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:00:00 -
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Afk mining isn't an exploit, just damn lazy game play, and careless attitude towards the safety of your ship, and yes it does bug me, why I don't know. I think its crap. 
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Carp Riddell
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:01:00 -
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Macro mining is definately an exploit.
AFK indy mining isn't and exploit, but there's something unsportsmanlike about it because it allows you to supply your main character with cash (or minerals) for no actual risk.
- Carp Riddell
- CEO, Innsmouth Shipping
- Proud Member of Curse Alliance
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Avon
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:16:00 -
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AFK miners are a source of fun.
My 2 favorite options are:
1/ Push their ship so far out of the roid belt they can't even see it, let alone mine it.
2/ Place their indy in the centre of a spherical minefield, then run to somewhere safe before they move.
Nasty I know, but it is funny.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:20:00 -
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How the hell do you create a Macro in XP? Is this a Windoze 98 thing?
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Carp Riddell
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:22:00 -
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Okay, perhaps "macro" was the wrong word. 'Bot Mining would be more like it.
- Carp Riddell
- CEO, Innsmouth Shipping
- Proud Member of Curse Alliance
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:30:00 -
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I am personally indiferent to AFK mining. If that is how someone wants to play the game then so be it. I would rather be actually doing something while it is on, even if it is just chatting while mining.
Isn't the whole point of the game to play it?
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Carp Riddell
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:34:00 -
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I am personally indiferent to AFK mining. If that is how someone wants to play the game then so be it. I would rather be actually doing something while it is on, even if it is just chatting while mining.
Isn't the whole point of the game to play it?
With you there, but I think he's talking about leaving an indy sat in front of a Scord 'roid in 1.0 while you go to work, then doing the same while you sleep, and the same while you're in the pub. It might not seem like it nets a lot of money, but 3 full Bestower-plus-mods loads of Scord per day for no effort does amount to a fairly large "unearned" income.
- Carp Riddell
- CEO, Innsmouth Shipping
- Proud Member of Curse Alliance
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babyblue
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:46:00 -
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Well I tried that this morning with my best in a 0.8 - a little gnat came into field when I was in the shower (blood follower) and nipped me down to 50% shields before I returned. Personally, I prefer going into field in my little rifter with 2 miner 1s and a howitzer so at least I can do some blasting when the little buggers turn up (but yes, I have to drag drop, drag drop, drag drop into my can).
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.06 12:12:00 -
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In 1.0 space, no rats. There is the occasional anti-afk-mining extremist who'll create an alt to take potshots at you in a kestrel or some such, but even that's only a problem if you do it in a highway system. There's innumerable 1.0 systems that are empty most of the time.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2003.11.06 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/11/2003 13:25:32
Fighting > Mining.
I HATE mining... I don't get a chance to play the game all day every day, so when I do, I don't want to WASTE my time mining. If there were alternatives like selling my ass or buying and selling hardcore drugs then I would. But there isn't.
As long as AFK mining is a valid way to make money, I'll be doing it with all my AFK time.
My time on the machine will be utilised protecting the NVA from the scourge of the universe.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.11.06 12:23:00 -
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With you there, but I think he's talking about leaving an indy sat in front of a Scord 'roid in 1.0 while you go to work, then doing the same while you sleep, and the same while you're in the pub. It might not seem like it nets a lot of money, but 3 full Bestower-plus-mods loads of Scord per day for no effort does amount to a fairly large "unearned" income.
I was going to write some long post on reasons against but save me the time and risk of attack from afk miners I have shortend it to.
I like to playthe game and all I do and earn is done while I am sat infront of the pc. I am far from rich but enjoy every time I log on, no matter what I do.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2003.11.06 12:56:00 -
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pff AFK mining is nothing compared to people in Battleships with 8 m2s and 10 harvs stripping 1.0 systems
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The Machman
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Posted - 2003.11.06 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: The Machman on 06/11/2003 13:10:39
Edited by: The Machman on 06/11/2003 13:09:27
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pff AFK mining is nothing compared to people in Battleships with 8 m2s and 10 harvs stripping 1.0 systems
Yeah those total *%&%&$ú.
Just because they have played the game for months and have had to mine in frigates and cruisers for hours and hours on end they think they should be able to make more money.
Strip mining definitely cant be done just as easily with 2 thoraxes with 10 minerIIs and which cost a tenth of the money and can be done by 2 2-week old chars can it ?
Yeah right on.
Lets stop anyone who can mine fast from mining so its only noobs.
Lets kill anyone with a miner II and make them mine with a toothpick in 0.0 space behind 3 lagged up Pirate blockades.
Taht way everyone will have to go PVP against there wishes.
Woohoo, Eve is going to be so much!!!
PS Wheres the cancel subscription button ?
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McWatt
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Posted - 2003.11.06 13:12:00 -
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Fighting > Mining.
I HATE mining... I don't get a chance to play the game all day every day, so when I do, I don't want to WASTE my time mining. If there were alternatives like selling my ass or buying and selling goods then I would. But there isn't.
i d buy. any time.
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Dark Nyte
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Posted - 2003.11.06 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: The Machman on 06/11/2003 13:10:39
Edited by: The Machman on 06/11/2003 13:09:27
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pff AFK mining is nothing compared to people in Battleships with 8 m2s and 10 harvs stripping 1.0 systems
Yeah those total *%&%&$ú.
Just because they have played the game for months and have had to mine in frigates and cruisers for hours and hours on end they think they should be able to make more money.
Strip mining definitely cant be done just as easily with 2 thoraxes with 10 minerIIs and which cost a tenth of the money and can be done by 2 2-week old chars can it ?
Yeah right on.
Lets stop anyone who can mine fast from mining so its only noobs.
Lets kill anyone with a miner II and make them mine with a toothpick in 0.0 space behind 3 lagged up Pirate blockades.
Taht way everyone will have to go PVP against there wishes.
Woohoo, Eve is going to be so much!!!
PS Wheres the cancel subscription button ?
not wanting to get in the middle of an argument you seem to feel very strongly about but aren't you better off mining a lower sec like a 0.8 0.7 or even a 0.6 system where there is better ore ?
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2003.11.06 15:08:00 -
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Is AFK mining considered and exploit and if not why do so many people hate it so much (not macro users i mean indy AFK miners)
No its not an exploit!
Is it wrong? Well i'm not really to sure about that...but you should always try to keep in mind WHY people do it and that it is infact POSSIBLE to do it.
Ok so it being possible is not a good excuse ;) (you can go out and murder a person, that is possible two!)
But...
I strongly believe that the fact why people AFK mine is simply because staring at yur screen for houres on end is not FUN. Infact its pretty boring! Give some depth to mining, make it more entertaining and i'm pretty sure people will start to activly mine ;)
Its not a shore, its a game. And yes there ARE ways to make mining less boring and less of a shore. Other games have proven this. Now CCP need to drop their high throne and take an example from them!
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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BatManolo
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Posted - 2003.11.06 15:12:00 -
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I say, and my words are considered holy words in some odd culture 
In real life, if we had spaceships and were mining asteroids. Surely, -surely- we would have a tv, a foodbay perhaps, pinball machines, **** magazines in our spaceship to keep us busy.
I think of AFK mining of an Roleplay aspect. The shipcaptain sets his drones to work(which he has bought with -hardearned- cash) and goes off to the toilet to read the Galactic Hotties Unlimited hologram issue.
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Alfius Togra
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Posted - 2003.11.06 16:37:00 -
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you cant blame ppl for afk mining, they are just making money following the path of least resistance, its human nature ...... if u dont like afk mining dont do it urself
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Silverix
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Posted - 2003.11.06 16:39:00 -
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Even tho I'm actually at my desk looking at the game screen I still feel I'm afk. I lack the will power to interact much after a few boring and numbing moments in EvE. I think the game is just too boring so afk mining is the only insane way to make any progress. Otherwise if you was at your term the entire time you would lose your mind!
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Avon
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:13:00 -
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But if it is so boring why bother to afk mine?
Why bother to play?
What good is virtual money in a virtual world you don't want to be part of?
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babyblue
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:25:00 -
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Silverix is an employee of the SWG team.
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Chucky
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:29:00 -
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This might be a stupid question, but are there any 0.9-1.0 systems left that aren't mined to pebbles?
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Aethelgrin
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Posted - 2003.11.06 18:15:00 -
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Sure there are. They're the 1.0 systems that lack stations or stations with reprocessing plants.
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2003.11.06 18:31:00 -
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AFK Mining requires more effort than JIP camping.
Hur.
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2003.11.06 18:52:00 -
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afk mining is not "wrong"
but don't be whining or crying when you get your ship blown up or pushed 2-300km from the belt.
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Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.06 18:55:00 -
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Sure there are. They're the 1.0 systems that lack stations or stations with reprocessing plants.
I know of a few that have those facilities, and still have scordite rocks so big that you get bounced off them whenever you try to warp in
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