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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:31:35 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I'm going to give you a really big clue, OP. And I won't post it on an alt, either. Are you ready?
As someone who has ran/currently is running multiple high-sec piracy/mercenary corporations, I haven't had any problem with incoming war declarations, even in the very, very rare instances in which we actually received them.
Why do you think this is?
Perhaps this is a little old case of not being able to defend what you have, and asking for artificial defense in the form of restrictions implemented by the developers, instead of either scaling down your operations to become less of a target, or becoming proactive and aggressive enough so as not to appear as one to others in the first place, hm? The problem with this attitude is that it's simply saying "if your corp wants to do anything other than PvP, it can't". No amount of defense in the world allows you to run non-PvP operations while being wardecced by groups who focus purely on PvP who are multiple times your size. You have no problems because all you want is PvP. That doesn't work for corps who want things outside of that. There's a reason there are no large scale highsec corporations with a non-PvP focus that don't operate almost entirely through NPC alts.
Do you think it's OK for large non PVP organisations to exist and be allowed to farm isk 24/7 freely and without consequence? Also, do you think this situation would be good for the game and it's economy?
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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:49:04 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Danalee wrote:Do you think it's OK for large non PVP organisations to exist and be allowed to farm isk 24/7 freely and without consequence? Also, do you think this situation would be good for the game and it's economy? I think it's irrelevant, because the same people currently farm isk 24/7 with little effect on the economy, they simply do it from 1 man alt corps or NPC corps. I think that allowing them to exist under a united banner would be healthier for the social elements of the game which we know improves player retention. Personally I'd like to see wardecs as they currently stand removed and alternate methods of attacking corps and their income streams which are profitable for the aggressors to be added which aren't simply a "turn off concord" mechanic.
Ok Lucas, that puts your point in perspective.
As long as their is no alternative, don't you agree we need to keep wardecs as they are and maybe even think about the social corps combined with strict limits on NPC corps?
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Dracvlad wrote:I liked this post so much, and for those whining about people dissolving their corps to evade war dec's, stop whining, there is no issue with it, the fault is yours for war deccing people who can't fight, get over it.
Hi Dracvlad, I understand you are happy to see someone who posted something that might lean on your thoughts about our game. Still, I'd love to challenge your premise and maybe invoke some thoughts other than knee-jerk reactions.
- What is your alternative to wardecs? - Are you OK with everyone being able to just farm isk without consequence?
And maybe a little bit mean but; Why don't you play on sisi? You can PVE there without consequence 24/7.
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Dracvlad wrote:Actually the main issue is to have something to fight over, which is what I suggested in my first post in this thread, I think the new structures as proposed will change this so people have something useful to fight over. You guys should be very excited over that, think that through, because its exciting to me. The whole argument about people dropping corps and evading is irrelevent, because those that have skin in the game will have to defend it, perhaps then your scatter gun approach is no longer needed and then you will stop whining about it. The only issue you will have is that the people who don't want to and can't fight will be able to have no skin in the game and will re-create their corp, so what. Why be in a corp at all if not to have something to fight for? Taxes, structures, social cohesion, a name for yourself, a reputation, etc.. People dropping corp in a hearthbeat is hardly irrelevant, it's broken beyond belief. Please refrain from putting words in my mouth, I haven't spoken out for or against what you call 'shotgun approach' let alone whined about it.
Dracvlad wrote:I reject your premise, there are always consequences in Eve and rightly so, and in any case if there was no war decs people would still gank and that is something that has a whole sub culture around it, epic fights around a bumped freighter. So you propose a buff to ganking instead to compensate the lack of other risks? Please elaborate.
Dracvlad wrote: Mean, well actually incorrect, first check out my killboard, I do have one you know, SISI is not playing against other people, its wiped out, its meaningless. My fun in this game is to play regardless of people trying to stop me, yesterday in spit of a war dec from you I went and helped save a freighter from the Goons, we won, I was waiting for one of your chaps to come along and I would have gone for him, but no show. I am still in corp, still moving around in hisec and neither your alliance or Foresaken have killed me, gold star when you do...
What you are saying is you don't play on sisi because it's meaningless? The fact that no other players are there to try and interfere with your group makes it bland and boring, worthless even? Good on you for mocking the big bad mercs; Now go and spread that message of defiance to the others instead of crying/whining(?) for nerfs!
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Posted - 2015.04.21 12:25:33 -
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Valedictio wrote: To sum it all up. War Decs are not broken if they are used for an intended purpose, Disbandment, Disruption, Destruction (In space assets), the problem with them only occurs if they are being used to grief an individual or farm easy kills when the target doesn't comply.
Allmost there. Doesn't compute just yet.
Griefing and wars don't match. They have nothing to do with each other. Farming easy kills doesn't exists. Everyone is an easy kill if they allow it. Case in point: minute-old-newbie is not an easy kill pers+¬. And even than, they are protected by not being in a corp from the get-go and agreements on not messing with noobs in the noob systems.
They join a corp and move out? No longer are they easy targets because they are in a fricking corp.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 12:39:46 -
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To the OP:
If you care to try again, I offer consultancy for your new corp. For free. Send me an in game mail and I will assist in making it work for you in hisec.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:14:24 -
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alexclone1 wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I'm going to give you a really big clue, OP. And I won't post it on an alt, either. Are you ready?
As someone who has ran/currently is running multiple high-sec piracy/mercenary corporations, I haven't had any problem with incoming war declarations, even in the very, very rare instances in which we actually received them.
Why do you think this is?
Because those that war dec only want to shoot at miners? And not engage in actual pvp? My point isnt that an industrial corp shouldnt be war dec'd at all. But currently the ability for 300+ people to war dec AT ONCE and PERMANENTLY does seem right. How is a corp supposed to grow to a point where it can defend itself?
My offer still stands to show you.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:19:26 -
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Dracvlad wrote:But my post was to detail the issue with war decs in terms of having no reason to fight, I have no reason to fight you people and calling me names does not work either, I am seriously not bothered by anything you say and that shows how bad you are.
You insisting on writing pagelong essays of how much you don't care isn't very convincing. Just saying.
I haven't called you any names and if I did, that wouldn't change anything about the fact you clearly are clueless when it comes to hisec wars.
But let's drink your brand of coolaid for a minute; You aren't bothered by wardecs, in fact, you welcome them. What's your point or better yet problem than?
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Dracvlad wrote: As if I care, you say you war dec'd me because I took some loser to task over his killboard when he was sprouting HTFU rubbish in another thread and yet you don't even come after me, this exchange between me and you lies at the heart of the disconnect of war dec's, I happen to think you war decc'd us because you were paid, but all I am is added to the pot so your instra lockers can kill a few noobs. But lets suppose you did not, you did it because of something I said, yet you have not hunted me, you have not taken down my POS, what is the reason for your war dec, how can you make me cry, except by laughing too hard. Thankyou for making me laugh so much.
Look at it like a trapper.
I go out and set traps... hundreds of them. Than I do my rounds... sometimes I get lots of game, sometimes I get none. I have fun.
You assume waaaay too much:
because I took some loser to task over his killboard when he was sprouting HTFU rubbish WHAT are you talking about? you don't even come after me Did, twice. You ran. Twice. this exchange between me and you lies at the heart of the disconnect of war dec's Wait, what?! It has nothing to do with wardecs. This exchange is nothing but that. An exchange. you war decc'd us because you were paid nop. your instra lockers can kill a few noobs. My what? What are you on about? yet you have not hunted me. See above, twice. you have not taken down my POS Yet, keep talking.
what is the reason for your war dec, how can you make me cry, He cried...
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:58:38 -
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alexclone1 wrote:Trollbait after trollbait after trollbait while ignoring every way forward.
I'm calling bullshit right about now.
OP is trollbait and nothing more.
Touch+¬, you got me.
D. Out.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 18:31:01 -
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I'll end it with this;
I can make a corp. In that corp I can mine, mission, have structures, have no tax and I can market PVP. Anyone can wardec my small corp.
If that happens, which will be very rare, I can continue doing the same thing as before.
10 man corp? Same thing. 100 man corp? SAME THING. 5000000+ Alliance... guess what? Same yeah.
Your argument is so flawed it went from funny to sad and back, twice. Wardecs should be free.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 18:37:29 -
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The bigger they are, the more chance for the hunter to become the prey.
Also, no amount of battleships will ever kill my frigate and I have the added bonus of being able to split them up untill I have them right where I want them.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 18:56:34 -
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alexclone1 wrote:I have posted multiple times that COST OF THE WARDEC is the solution. If 5 corps war dec me, at least have the satisfaction of knowing that they are paying out the nose to do it.
Please make an attempt not to be so hostile without reading previous posts. Clearly im talking to a pilot of whom i have been having a conversation the last few pages.
You'd like that, wouldn't you? Wardec yourself and be done with it. Nop, won't happen.
You try and read our posts maybe? People offering real advice and help get ignored while you cherry pick small parts to make your flawed argument. You think we're slow or something? It's a shame you thing so little of the EVE forum dwellers.
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alexclone1 wrote:My 'flawed' arguement was a game mechanic for a decade. Changed for the better. Indeed. Stop trying to get back to the olden days and live in the now.
alexclone1 wrote: Since then industrial corp numbers are down in high sec Proof much? It's like that saying, proof or STFU
alexclone1 wrote: due to the vast number of war decs that any corp can obtain simply by being active. Proof much? It's like that saying, proof or STFU
alexclone1 wrote: In fact, i would welcome a ccp representative to comment about industrial corp numbers compared from this year to 2012 and before. Oh, wait... once you get your proof, we'll talk.
Meanwhile, stop making an arse of yourself and HTFU.
I said it
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alexclone1 wrote:I do know that activity on the client is much lower now than pre war dec changes. Is it? From what I gathered it's at an all time high especially since the THIS IS EVE video. You know, the one with all the pretty explosions.
alexclone1 wrote:I know of dozen of people i used to play with quit after the months of continuous war decs knowing that war decs were dirt cheap and would never stop. Man, you know people? Sure they didn't quite because of your non stop whinging?
alexclone1 wrote: Everyone knows that the vast majority of eve online players were high sec industrials. Not sure what demographic is the most popular now... Starting with : Everybody knows and spouting random fantasy followed by not sure what it is now... Strong argument right there buddy. Most popular demographic since THIS IS EVE = Nullbear.
alexclone1 wrote:Point being is that an entire way to play was removed so that griefers could war dec at will. Which way to play was removed? The one where you circumvented the rules by wardeccing yourself? Wardecs aren't griefing in any way, shape or form by the way. Your posts... yeah, a while 'nother story.
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:25:51 -
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ISD troll, best troll.
+1 would read again.
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:26:05 -
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Wrong thread... This is the alt/trollbait one.
/ignore or delete please.
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Posted - 2015.04.22 10:21:40 -
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Indeed, you all have good points. I like the vampire guy's opinion best, his opinion is more right than other people's opinion.
I would propose we nerf Oracles and Nagas because they hate industrial players.
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Posted - 2015.04.22 12:35:31 -
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CCP Should stop forcing PVE on us!
Classic Lucas, shooting the messenger because... Because!
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Posted - 2015.04.22 14:08:20 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: I'll derail this thread before anyone has an idea that makes me protect my supply chain
*I know you are so what am I*
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Posted - 2015.04.22 14:39:21 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Danalee wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: I'll derail this thread before anyone has an idea that makes me protect my supply chain *I know you are so what am I* That doesn't make any sense. Like neither the made up quote or the response. Anyway, I'll respond to on topic posts, but I'm just going to start reporting the off topic ones at this point since this has clearly gone far enough.
It doesn't?
You fear the loss of your zero-risk NPC corp characters. You fear CCP seeing the problem with risk-free hisec catering to the bears too much will result in you having to actually work for your isk and take risks.
This fear forces you to derail each and every thread about the subject with silly conjecture of big PVE corps being imposiburu and wardecs being some form of cancer that needs to be cut out.
Sums it up for you?
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:At this point I am seriously considering joining a merc corp because it clearly affords the easiest, least risky access to high value targets in the game. 50M a week per target is peanuts.
Do it. I dare you. At least you'd be talking about something you know a bit about. as opposed to the nullbears defending their risk free supply line.
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Danalee wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:At this point I am seriously considering joining a merc corp because it clearly affords the easiest, least risky access to high value targets in the game. 50M a week per target is peanuts.
Do it. I dare you. At least you'd be talking about something you know a bit about. as opposed to the nullbears defending their risk free supply line. D. Only problem is I really like being able to get 2 of the best ships in the game really cheaply through FW, and I can't travel through Amarr or Caldari space, once again due to FW.
Wah? Can't fly through certain systems? How is that an issue? You'd be raking in isks from dropping fleets on miners and newbies everywhere at the same time? right?
Anyhow, there are standing repair plans for that if you really think it's an issue. Too much effort already?
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Danalee wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote: If me and my friends can, for a trivial price, engage anyone we want in highsec; how is that different in any meaningful way?
Yes, when you and your dinky friends wardec anyone it's game over for them isn't it You could single handedly ruin hisec for everyone! It's not like players in Hisec are real people that can talk and maybe play the game and stuff... Jeezus, how could we be so blind. How do you play the game while being permacamped by people you don't have the SP or assets to fight?
I play it as if it was a MMORPG set in a dark hostile universe. Group up, fly smart, don't trust anyone, don't fly what I can't afford to loose... The usual.
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Dracvlad wrote:The issue is that it really depends on your own conduct, this type of war with Marmite is utterly boring, my experienced members just have no interest in chasing around Marmites GTFO type of play, so they are all playing GTA 5. When I was around there was one roam, while I was away they did three roams and we did not get anything to shoot and were happy to lose the ships we were in. So now my corpmates are not logging in, that is at the core of the issue, I have PvP players who find Marmite so boring that they don't bother logging in and I feel bad because I got them to come back to the game, wish I had waited until the 0.0 changes had been applied, would have been better.
But I did give it 18 days and we did go look for some fights, so its just one of those things. Killing Marmite is not hard. They're fractional, bad at communication and careless. Their own behaviour and methods of operation render them comically vulnerable to people who're willing to attack them. They aren't boring, they're always active and they're never paying attention to you specifically. You used the term "roam" which tells me that you just don't know how to achieve kills in a highsec war, which is understandable considering the unusual nature of highsec. Specific tactics for fighting highsec wars are a little tangetical to the subject of the thread, but considering the ten billion isk in kills my alliance has achieved since we declared war on them earlier this year I can tell you for a fact that it's not Marmite that is preventing you from killing them, it is that you aren't using appropriate tactics. It's not a problem with wars that defenders don't know how to fight them, not exactly. It's a problem that highsec PVP is so rare and so exclusively dominated by dedicated PVP groups that people who aren't part of those groups never learn how to effectively fight those wars. Subsequently the post inferno meta has shifted to incredibly weak, passive defenders trying to evade wars by using corp mechanics or not logging in for weeks at a time and large, powerful groups of aggressors having to take a shotgun approach to find enough opponents who actually undock ships.
I hate Vimsy with a passion... OOOOH I HATE HER. But she's 100% right.
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Wardecs are broken because GTA5. If CCP fixes GTA5 (make it suck or something) everything is solved.
Being offline = more effort than killing stuff 24/7.
Welcome to the wonderful TWILIGHT world of dracvlad, the impaler of common sense.
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Dracvlad wrote:Whatever you think, but they have a choice try to catch people who are in GTFO ships or GTA 5, guess which one wins, in other words it is s symptom of the issue with war decs, they give NOFUX...
This one I'll do, next ones I refer you to my post above.
You argument falls under: - Wardecs are broken because GTA5. If CCP fixes GTA5 (make it suck or something) everything is solved. and - When you wardec someone, as agressor you have an obligation to entertain your target.
Trolls : 0 Good guys: 1
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Danalee wrote:Wardecs are broken because GTA5. If CCP fixes GTA5 (make it suck or something) everything is solved.
Being offline = more effort than killing stuff 24/7.
Welcome to the wonderful TWILIGHT world of dracvlad, the impaler of common sense.
Whatever you think, but they have a choice try to catch people who are in GTFO ships or GTA 5, guess which one wins, in other words it is s symptom of the issue with war decs, they give NOFUX... What are these GTFO ships you speak of?
Noragen, you silly willy, it's any ship he can't be bothered to try and catch. As aggressors, we should only fly the ships our target wants us to fly in locations they want us to be in.
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Dracvlad wrote:Danalee wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Whatever you think, but they have a choice try to catch people who are in GTFO ships or GTA 5, guess which one wins, in other words it is s symptom of the issue with war decs, they give NOFUX... You argument falls under: - Wardecs are broken because GTA5. If CCP fixes GTA5 (make it suck or something) everything is solved. and - When you wardec someone, as agressor you have an obligation to entertain your target. Trolls : 0 Good guys: 1 That's you infantile interpretation, but if you want to go with that feel free
they have a choice try to catch people who are in GTFO ships or GTA 5 Ergo: GTA5 is causing people not to play EVE. they give NOFUX Ergo: They aren't entertained and should be by the aggressor.
^^ Prove me wrong or stop whinging.
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Dracvlad wrote:Telling it as it is, the old players who have been playing since 2003 did not find the content engaging, so they played another game, is that so difficult to understand.
If we wardec you, in your twisted reality does that mean that it is to provide YOU content? What were you doing before the wardec and why wouldn't you continue doing it?
How on earth can you think anyone is responsible for your entertainment other than you?! And what, pray tell, does that have to do with the wardec system? At all?!
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Dracvlad wrote:I have been entertained, problem was that most of my corp mates are playing another game, they have no interest in your alliance.
Ok, so that's YOUR problem, YOUR corp mates weren't entertained by YOU so THEY went and played GTA.
Tell me again, about the topic at hand (wardecs being/not being broken) what is your stance and why?
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Vechtor, in part I follow your thoughts.
Only thing is without PVP of the 'shooty shooty ship' kind, everything looses worth and the game will suffer for it. You agree/understand?
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Mister Dracvlad, to summarize, You argument falls under:
- Wardecs are broken because GTA5. If CCP fixes GTA5 (make it suck or something) everything is solved. and - When you wardec someone, as agressor you have an obligation to entertain your target. and - There has to be reasons to fight for the defenders but don't force PVP on us! and - When you are under a wardec you can't play the game like you want because someone could be flying a fast ship somewhere and you can't catch it. and - NPC corps are fine as they stand because nullbears should always be able to go to jita with their spoils and sell them at markup without anyone hindering them. and - farming isk without consequence should be A-OK. and - Wardec by marmites/other big merc groups don't matter because marmites/other big merc groups suck but you still shouldn't play the game when you are decced. Also dracvlad wrote:Damn you and your facts, reality and common sense, I'm taking my ball and going home. Final tally: Trolls : 0 Good guys: 2
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