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Roule The Kennels	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:25:00 - [1] The definition of a pirate is someone who steals from another not someone who steals from another honourably, so why all the crap about pirates honour and dishonour? If your a smart pirate in this game you will always make more money from jet cans than from puny ransoms, i always have, i live of my loot nowadays. Your a pirate and your always going to be hated by carebears wether your nice or not, live upto the name and be feared/hated? I would never for the life of me open up a convo with someone and ask for moeny as the reason i do pvp/pirate is for the lovely messages and the convos from CEOs you get asking for stuff back or they will wtfomgffsbbq you or get a friend to do it( it kinda amusing how people get upset with this game) So my questions are Why Ransom and wtfs this stuff about pirate honour My Videos
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:31:00 - [2] because dishonoring a ransom is lame. I ransom when i believe i will get more money than not ransoming (pods, noobs in battleships, etc) This corp is recruiting. Billboard Project
Roule The Kennels	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:34:00 - [3] But why care about honour and dishonour if your choosing a route that people will hate ya for anyway? To me i dont care about either two catagories, i just like the hate mails afterwards My Videos
Waxau Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:39:00 - [4] ok - lets put it this way....If you are a pirate, then you'll know the people im talking about. Who do you have more respect for? Ginger magician, or Verone? Your answer should be verone, due to how he/she plays. Pirate or not, there is respect. And an honour. Its that which seperates and distinguishes players, no matter what catagory they fall under.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente CURSED LEGION OF DOOM Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:41:00 - [5] Ransoming is my preferred method of getting isk. Since I don't gate camp it is much more profitable to get a 4 million isk ransom from some cruiser than it is to just pop it (most of the time) The Best Thing I've ever seen in local chat [15:17:21] sotmassacer > can someone give me a big battleship for a while
Nidia Masters Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:56:00 - [6] Personally I do my best to ransom a pilot if possible. If I'm in the heat of battle though, sometimes there is little time to do so and I'll have to settle with salvaging the debris. If a ransom is refused, then yes I will destroy the ship. I have never, nor will I ever pod someone not on my -10 list in empire space. I have never, nor will I ever destroy a ship after the ransom has been paid.
TheJacko Gallente Turbulent	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:57:00 - [7] ok i am a pirate and if iw as to ransom someone it would be on age the older they are most probs is they will have inplnts probs +3's so i will ransom tehre pod for about 50-70m if they are not so old and i do not think they have inplants i will ransom there ship insted :) now that is why pirates ransom people ;) http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/7748/jackoeve3gs.jpg
Roule The Kennels	Posted - 2006.11.02 00:06:00 - [8] Originally by: TheJacko ok i am a pirate and if iw as to ransom someone it would be on age the older they are most probs is they will have inplnts probs +3's so i will ransom tehre pod for about 50-70m if they are not so old and i do not think they have inplants i will ransom there ship insted :) now that is why pirates ransom people ;) But that pittance nowadays, if ya selecting targets and probing them out then you are looking at making 200m at the very lowest and if ya ganking haulers in highsec just the same. you gank a tech 2 fitted battleship ecspecially ravens which are the BS of choice for ratting and missions(think ave killed more ravens than all other battleships put together) and just dropping a few tech 2 siege and an invul and youll make more than that. Why not just pod and be even more satisfied when ya get the hatemail My Videos
Leikeze Mrotserif Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2006.11.02 00:06:00 - [9] Pirating in eve is a business about making isk and by honoring ransoms people will be more willing to pay you because they KNOW that you keep to your word. That is why i care about honour. -------------------------------------
Leikeze Mrotserif Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2006.11.02 05:31:00 - [10] Originally by: Roule Originally by: TheJacko ok i am a pirate and if iw as to ransom someone it would be on age the older they are most probs is they will have inplnts probs +3's so i will ransom tehre pod for about 50-70m if they are not so old and i do not think they have inplants i will ransom there ship insted :) now that is why pirates ransom people ;) But that pittance nowadays, if ya selecting targets and probing them out then you are looking at making 200m at the very lowest and if ya ganking haulers in highsec just the same. you gank a tech 2 fitted battleship ecspecially ravens which are the BS of choice for ratting and missions(think ave killed more ravens than all other battleships put together) and just dropping a few tech 2 siege and an invul and youll make more than that. Why not just pod and be even more satisfied when ya get the hatemail I've found that a successful ransom gives more money to all involved members than if you were to rely on random loot drops. Judging player age, corp, difficulty of fight, and all that crap can easily tell me what to set the bar at. If they cant meet it, try to have them eject.. and if they dont.. pop. On an isolated target it's always best to grind the most money out of it. To each their own though, go make your mils il make my bils -------------------------------------
PCaBoo Caldari Newbies On Xstacy Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.02 09:56:00 - [11] Honoring ransoms is good business, just as being polite or keeping your mouth shut after the fact. Happy customers are return customers. :)
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.11.02 11:17:00 - [12] if you ransom pod for money, you would want people to keep paying wouldnt you? This corp is recruiting. Billboard Project
Mi Lai Sanguine Legion Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.02 12:05:00 - [13] If we do ransom, we honour it. However, with the general excuses made while having the ransom convo ('I don't have the ISK', 'I'm waiting for my mates to transfer me some', ' I don't know how to transfer ISK' , etc.) and the still rising prices on T2 Equipment, it's hardly ever worth it. I see it more as a favour to be given to someone who gave a good fight then as a way to make ISK.
Redbad Minmatar Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.02 12:19:00 - [14] Being a pirate doesn't mean you can't have ethics, but it surely wont be a statement that you should have them in a certain way. You can be a famous one, you can be an infamous one or you can be a petty one (but's lets not consider that to keep things simple). Its up to the man/woman behind the word pirate that decides honour or no honour is appropriate for his/her actions. Fellow pirates, dont let the carebears give you a label easily like this! Being a pirate is in my opinion being someone that is not as easily defined as being a carebear.
Commander Thrawn Tarnak inc. Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.11.02 13:11:00 - [15] Edited by: Commander Thrawn on 02/11/2006 13:11:10 Originally by: Samirol if you ransom pod for money, you would want people to keep paying wouldnt you? and there is the answer you dishonour the ransom, and you'll never be able to ransom again. as for just poping the pod and not ransoming it, well to each his own.
Lord Violent	Posted - 2006.11.02 13:14:00 - [16] First off of the two choices of verone and Ginger I respect both equally. Without meeting either personally why would anyone have a particular preference. Theyre both good at what they do. I understand a pirate code of honour. However pirate codes of honour were among pirates, not pirates and their victims. Ransoming is for pods, unless someone offers you serious and immediate payment for a faction BS. To each their own but returning to the first point I may respect them equally but frankly ginger brings far more to the game. Noobs in jita arent tucked into bed with stories of other pirates out to get them. And quite frankly what could be more scary than something ginger in the first place.
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.11.02 13:36:00 - [17] Originally by: Lord Violent First off of the two choices of verone and Ginger I respect both equally. Without meeting either personally why would anyone have a particular preference. Theyre both good at what they do. I understand a pirate code of honour. However pirate codes of honour were among pirates, not pirates and their victims. Ransoming is for pods, unless someone offers you serious and immediate payment for a faction BS. To each their own but returning to the first point I may respect them equally but frankly ginger brings far more to the game. Noobs in jita arent tucked into bed with stories of other pirates out to get them. And quite frankly what could be more scary than something ginger in the first place. Well that was a clueless post. Verone's not a pirate and ginger's an annoying crybaby. ---------------------------------- Real Gangsta
Cyan Gadarin Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:00:00 - [18] i like to ransom in local, and there's 2 great reasons to ransom 1. you can often ransom the same person multiple times 2. you can ransom them to sing songs, praise you in local, it's not always about the isk, sometimes you just wanna have fun
Lord Violent	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:19:00 - [19] Originally by: kublai Well that was a clueless post. Verone's not a pirate and ginger's an annoying crybaby. Clearly verone disagrees, perhaps you could buy a clue from his bio? Though im not sure why your correcting me on stating verones a pirate as I cant seem to find that in my post anywhere. So ginger makes some dumb posts now and again at least he brings some colour to the game,your dumb posts on the other hand.....
Sapeian	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:36:00 - [20] Personally i think if you ransom a ship or a pod or what ever the person doing it should calculate the point of it. like ransoming a noob with nothing... pointless. altho ransoming someone who is experianced and may possibly have a shedload of expensive inplants ect. then i would say go for it. but i dont belive in honor or dishonor in the game becuase i think the term pirate is used loosly, if your a non pirate workign hard in a corp or alliance to make a name for yourself without killing people then i think they are being honerable to the corp, but being a pirate or what ever.... honor or dishonor has nothing to do with it. to me is free for all.
XGS Crimson	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:57:00 - [21] woot for ransomin! FLAME ON! zoomnull
Mihae	Posted - 2006.11.02 16:53:00 - [22] Always kill! Exept from podds maby, since you gain nothing from killing them but can make ISK out of good podds.
Ma'lice Minmatar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.02 17:34:00 - [23] I'm sitting here atm drinking strawberry margarita's. Hello. ___________________________________________________ Originally by: Infinity Ziona And I'll whine all I like, I pay to use this forum, and I will use it. At least until you need to gang up to post here.
Ma'lice Minmatar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.02 17:43:00 - [24] Originally by: Lord Violent Ransoming is for pods, unless someone offers you serious and immediate payment for a faction BS. Actually, this is what I meant to add. A perfect example: When we caught that fully t2 tempest in Goud, and after a few you were ready to let the pod go, but I said keep going, and after I put the pod into structure the player quickly sent the ransom isk. ___________________________________________________ Originally by: Infinity Ziona And I'll whine all I like, I pay to use this forum, and I will use it. At least until you need to gang up to post here.
KayaYautja Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.02 17:46:00 - [25] Originally by: Ma'lice I'm sitting here atm drinking strawberry margarita's. Hello. Thats awesome, i'm drinking Vodka and coke I'm the omega baby!
Krist Valentine Amarr Freelancing Opportunists	Posted - 2006.11.02 17:51:00 - [26] Because all the good loot seems to go pop with their ship. Covert Ops Cloaking Device II, anyone? :D - - - - - ISD r teh pwn -- Oh yeah? Come back here and be a man, whoever modified that! I have my duelling glove!
Ma'lice Minmatar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.02 18:00:00 - [27] Edited by: Ma''lice on 02/11/2006 18:02:18 Originally by: kublai Originally by: Lord Violent ...They're both good at what they do. I understand a pirate code of honour. However pirate codes of honour were among pirates, not pirates and their victims. Well that was a clueless post. It would seem, Kublai, that you are the clueless. (EDIT) Although, I personally find nothing wrong with extending the love to non-pirates. The more the merrier right? You Know? YO HO HO and Strawberry Margarita. ___________________________________________________ Originally by: Infinity Ziona And I'll whine all I like, I pay to use this forum, and I will use it. At least until you need to gang up to post here.
Ma'lice Minmatar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.02 18:19:00 - [28] Originally by: KayaYautja Originally by: Ma'lice I'm sitting here atm drinking strawberry margarita's. Hello. Thats awesome, i'm drinking Vodka and coke Looks like CCP is trying to turn it's entire player base into alcoholics with all this downtime. ___________________________________________________ Originally by: Infinity Ziona And I'll whine all I like, I pay to use this forum, and I will use it. At least until you need to gang up to post here.
Roule The Kennels	Posted - 2006.11.02 18:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Ma'lice I'm sitting here atm drinking strawberry margarita's. Hello. i <3 malice My Videos
TheJacko Gallente Turbulent	Posted - 2006.11.02 18:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Roule Originally by: TheJacko ok i am a pirate and if iw as to ransom someone it would be on age the older they are most probs is they will have inplnts probs +3's so i will ransom tehre pod for about 50-70m if they are not so old and i do not think they have inplants i will ransom there ship insted :) now that is why pirates ransom people ;) why would i want to kill the pod if it has crapy loot but decent age on him? i would rather like isk that a hate mail to be honest But that pittance nowadays, if ya selecting targets and probing them out then you are looking at making 200m at the very lowest and if ya ganking haulers in highsec just the same. you gank a tech 2 fitted battleship ecspecially ravens which are the BS of choice for ratting and missions(think ave killed more ravens than all other battleships put together) and just dropping a few tech 2 siege and an invul and youll make more than that. Why not just pod and be even more satisfied when ya get the hatemail http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/7748/jackoeve3gs.jpg

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