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Turd Ferguson
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Posted - 2003.11.08 05:19:00 -
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No.. Pong is just a game, Pacman is just a game, Centipede is just a game.
EVE is an online community filled with real people who interact with each other in real time. As such, it has its real idiots, and of course the widespread epidemic of real *******s. However you skirt the edges of this logic, it is valid. Go ahead and fool yourselves.
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Babye Cakes
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Posted - 2003.11.08 05:22:00 -
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EVE is just a game.
you said it. just a game. real people play... humm yes they do... real people pay to play... hmmm yes they do. but this is a game based on rights and wrongs. some do right. some do wrong. i did wrong. and ill do it again. if not with babe with someone else. some people mine, some are pirates, and some steal. lol. well i guess im just one that steals.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.08 05:30:00 -
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i did wrong.
You said it. "It's just a game" doesn't excuse you no matter how many times you say it.
If you want to dellude yourself into thinking you're a "good person" because you only screw people over when you know they don't know who you really are and can't do anything about it, go right ahead; that's all you'll be in the end though, a delluded little thief who thinks it's okay to destroy people's hard work as long as there are no consequences for it.
Veruna Caseti
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Jag Terran
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Posted - 2003.11.08 06:25:00 -
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Babye Cakes: want a job? Haha
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Jag Terran
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Posted - 2003.11.08 06:28:00 -
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i did wrong.
You said it. "It's just a game" doesn't excuse you no matter how many times you say it.
If you want to dellude yourself into thinking you're a "good person" because you only screw people over when you know they don't know who you really are and can't do anything about it, go right ahead; that's all you'll be in the end though, a delluded little thief who thinks it's okay to destroy people's hard work as long as there are no consequences for it.
ehhh.. that is simply idiotic. Since when did an entertainment package become "hard work"? Are you gonna call bluffing in Poker immoral next? It's a game and if you take it too seriously then rethink the reasons why you are playing it.
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Turd Ferguson
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Posted - 2003.11.08 06:39:00 -
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What we are dealing with here is a matter for modern philosophers and theologens. When does a virtual world become complex enough to apply morality? When does a game become less of a game and more of an alternate reality? How do we know we arent made up of 1's and 0's in some massive computer?
Do some searching and you will find books on this very subject.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.08 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 08/11/2003 08:36:25
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ehhh.. that is simply idiotic. Since when did an entertainment package become "hard work"?
What's idiotic about working hard at a leisure activity? Ever played a long chess game against someone of comparable skill? Ever played a long game of basketball or soccer? Ever tried developing an even halfway respectable golf game? Ever play RISK against a group of people who take it seriously? Ever tried winning "Rygar" for the original NES?
There's nothing about "game" which implies "no hard work." The fact is, being successful at almost any of the current online games requires an investment of real money, real time, commitment, and dedication to the "pseudo-job." Face it, some things in these games are fun, but some of it boils down to grunt work in order to gain power. NPC hunting in EverQuest, mining in EVE, harvesting in Horizons, etc.
Hence, regardless of the fact that it's "just a game" we're talking about a part of people's lives here. For some EVE is an everyday activity - it's how they choose to invest precious hours and they hope their hard work will pay off with rewards of a more fun and rewarding game experience by gaining whatever it is they are working to achieve, be it increased wealth, power, prestige, or ability to stand up to NPC and PC opponents.
The willful destruction of these people's efforts is a moral choice, regardless of how much you wish you could justify it by saying that it doesn't count because it's a game - you are still destroying real time, real money, real work; you are violating real trust built between real people, and causing real anger and resentment as a result.
Veruna Caseti
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Babye Cakes
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Posted - 2003.11.08 08:47:00 -
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ehhh.. that is simply idiotic. Since when did an entertainment package become "hard work"? Are you gonna call bluffing in Poker immoral next? It's a game and if you take it too seriously then rethink the reasons why you are playing it.
this is true. its just a game fokes. just cause i stole from people on a game based on lieing, cheating and stealing doesnt mean id steal from work or my friends in real life. i guess im just playing the game. there are other parts to this game. you can be a goody goody and do nothing wrong and run your corp and be #1. I guess that just bores me so i stole. lol.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.08 08:59:00 -
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Die Babye die. Hope you look forward to training all those skills again. Atleast there is a tiny price to pay for being an idiot.
How about branding them exploiters until we have game mechanics who deal with corporate theft?
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Jonathon Reynolds
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Posted - 2003.11.08 09:06:00 -
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this is true. its just a game fokes. just cause i stole from people on a game based on lieing, cheating and stealing doesnt mean id steal from work or my friends in real life. i guess im just playing the game. there are other parts to this game. you can be a goody goody and do nothing wrong and run your corp and be #1. I guess that just bores me so i stole. lol.
Drivel. You've shown yourself to be a dishonest person.
The "only" reason you don't steal from work or friends in real life is because you'd run the risk of being caught, prosecuted, imprisoned, and having to share a cell with someone called "Big Ron" who thinks you "have a purdy mouf".
None of that can happen inside a virtual world.
The character we play is the person we are, devoid of the consequences of our actions.
A thief is a thief is a thief.
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Zodiac Laserstorm
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Posted - 2003.11.08 10:56:00 -
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well if people start trying to kill me ill just trade all my stuff to a new character and then i guess ill start all over... rich. and with plenty of stuff. lol. so am i worried.... no im not.. lol haha. so jokes not on me. jokes on yall. lol.
Hmmm... Wait a minute....
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Posted - 03/11/2003 16:25:00 - Quote
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I wont lie. I stole it. I stole it all. Will i erase my character... NO! as a matter of fact im still in the same station i stole the stuff. well i sell the stuff i stole. NO! i didnt do this to get money. I did this for the LACK OF TRUST nos had in me.
I just lost my job! LOST MY GIRL! AND LOST MY SCHOOL! IM HAVEING A HARD TIME RIGHT NOW. AND WHEN NOS DIDNT TRUST ME I LOST IT EVEN MORE. IVE DONE NOTHING BUT TRIED TO HELP THIS CORP. I HAD NEVER PLANED ON STEALING THERE STUFF. AND WHEN I DID I HATED IT. BUT NOW THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO DO BUT RUN. RUN FOR THE REST OF THE TIME IM ON EVE.
I dont have an alt right now. IVE PUT TO MUCH WORK INTO BABYE CAKES. Im not about to delete this character. i will not run and i will not hide. ill be waiting for you nos and al. in the cold dark hell we call space. THIS GAME SUCKS SO I SPICED IT UP. im tired. tired of all this crap that i put up with. NOW its time for fun. CRAZY!!!!! I THINK SO!!!!!!
I know were good.
...right, so not only are you a corp thief, you also change your mind every few days or so.
Ah well.
Aside from that, you will take this personal, hun, but it's meant as a serious option as it might help you. Find some professional to help you. If your life is in such a bad shape, playing EVE won't make it better. *ing over people won't make it better. Sure, you may feel strong behind the Computer screen, might get a cheap thrill for being in the high ranks of the hated now.
But seriously, was that your aim? Perhaps a hug would be better for ya 
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N0sferathu
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Posted - 2003.11.08 11:16:00 -
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ZODIAC,
I solute you. This kid is sick..
Good day
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Khyan
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Posted - 2003.11.08 12:31:00 -
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i have to say, by bragging about that thing you did in here is kinda ... dumb.
here goes to you 'dumb*ss of the week' award
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2003.11.08 15:30:00 -
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Keeping the stolen goods on this character would keep this in game and lend some support to your "I'm just roleplaying a thief" argument.
Taking all of your stolen goods and moving them to a new character proves to everyone that you are just a lazy person who can't be bothered to do the work to get the stuff or take the heat from being a thief.
You can't have it both ways. you are either using an out of character solution to avoid the only penalty for your actions, or you're roleplaying the bad guy. You can't have both.
BTW, I'm pretty sure most corps could avoid your future alts by just requiring a two sentence writing sample. You are rather distinct.
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Tailos
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Posted - 2003.11.08 16:35:00 -
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This is my last post regarding any corp thief, for any reason. I just wanted to pass along a story for those that haven't heard it.
A man asks a woman "Will you sleep with me for a million dollars." The woman thinks about it for a while, and finally say yes.
The man than says "I don't have a million dollars, would you do it for $20?" The woman, scorn in her voice, says "No I won't sleep with you for $20, what do you think I am!"
The man flatly replies "We've already established what you are, now we're just haggling over the price."
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Babye Cakes
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Posted - 2003.11.08 18:58:00 -
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i still think it is funny how you all think that just because i stole in game that im a sick little boy. its a game. i stole stuff that isnt real. its like saying people who kill other players are sick bas tards cause they killed someone who worked hard to earn those skills. i guess this mean that pirates in game are sick bas tards in real life right?
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Love Hauler
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Posted - 2003.11.08 21:08:00 -
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Jedi's!
B rdy for my rage
Babe, uve got some strange perspective of things
but as long as u stay on Babey Cakes, i guess its semi ok... but if u go and make a new character, cause u cant take the heat... then u have signed the ghey contract for life... imagine if every person u would meet from now, would know what u did.... would u have done it ?
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Rickenbacker
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Posted - 2003.11.08 21:25:00 -
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Am I the only one who can smell the troll in this thread? This kid (why do all the young boys have female avatars? :)) just wants your attention, and you took the bait.
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Babye Cakes
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Posted - 2003.11.08 22:13:00 -
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Babe, uve got some strange perspective of things
but as long as u stay on Babey Cakes, i guess its semi ok... but if u go and make a new character, cause u cant take the heat... then u have signed the ghey contract for life... imagine if every person u would meet from now, would know what u did.... would u have done it ?
I will keep playing this character. and FYI all my friends think what i did is funny as hell. when they come over i show them this and they laugh at yall and i laugh at yall and we all laugh together. do they trust me any less cause of what i did in a game. lol. NO. are you mad. its just a game. and im 22 so im not a kid. lol. yall are all geeks who have no life who take a game to the extream. you stole from use so i guess in real life you will still and back stab your friends.... NO its a game. get over it. i stole i won... im rich in a game. lol. suckers
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.08 23:28:00 -
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FYI all my friends think what i did is funny as hell.
Somehow I'm not surprised, given your attitude, that your friends are also ignorant *******s.
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and im 22 so im not a kid.
News flash, junior: it doesn't matter how many years you've been alive if you still behave like a child; from what I've seen out of you, you should still be in diapers.
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yall are all geeks
Geeks are people too.
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who have no life
Are you sure? I thought I had an awesome life, including a nice apartment, a really hot girlfriend, great friends and family, and heapin' helpin's of hardcore gaming.
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i stole i won... im rich in a game.
Rich in game, but poor in many other ways. So sad.
Veruna Caseti
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.08 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 08/11/2003 23:35:49
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first of all i dont care what yall say. second im 22. third there is nothing better then seeing people who take this game so serious that when you hurt them they b itch mone and cry. lol.
First of all. You shoul'd realise what you have done and stop being an ignorant fool.
Secondly, you're not 22. You are hardly 15 mentally and that's what really counts regarding this. That's pretty evident from a number of things you've written. Shush back to CS you go kiddo!
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Nootami
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Posted - 2003.11.08 23:55:00 -
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i still think it is funny how you all think that just because i stole in game that im a sick little boy. its a game. i stole stuff that isnt real. its like saying people who kill other players are sick bas tards cause they killed someone who worked hard to earn those skills. i guess this mean that pirates in game are sick bas tards in real life right?
Your argument has more holes than a slice of swiss cheese. The above quote mentions something about people who kill other people being sick because someone worked hard to earn those skills. Alright, if you have the correct clone you wont lose those skills you agonize over. Before we get into a discussion of whether the stuff you stole is or isnt real (what is real?), you nonetheless stole stuff that people worked long and hard for.
I for one dont like the concept of Alts because Babye can now send all her stuff over to an alt and start anew with a whole hangarfull of stuff that isnt hers. I'd like to see some way of seeing a character's alts.
And saying that people who kill other players are "sick bas tards" is nothing like a person that steals other peoples work, because once again you dont lose your skills when you die (unless you havent been keeping up to date with the concept of clones), and insurance will cover a good portion, if not more than, the cost of your ship. Finaly, I don't believe you are 22.
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
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MournsForPlanets
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Posted - 2003.11.09 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: MournsForPlanets on 09/11/2003 00:46:38
Edited by: MournsForPlanets on 09/11/2003 00:45:38
Babye, you may try to justify your actions all you want, but you know fully well that your actions were against real people and not a game and it is clear from all your posts they were not in the spirit of playing in character - as in role playing a thief. This makes you corrupt, in real life. Whats more, not doing the same thing in real life doesnt detract from what you really are as you have done this to people who at one point considered you a friend and trusted you. These are not NPCs, they are real people on the other end of the line/chat window and you know that fully well. It does, however, make you cowardly as you are afraid of the real concequences you might face in the real world if you behaved in a similar fashion.
Have your life, play the game even, but do yourself a great service and look deeply inside, be honest and true to yourself and you will eventually see the ramifications of your actions and how they apply to your own real life. The two are inseperable and you know this at least on a subconscious level. Even if it takes years - it will eventually catch up to you. If, at that point, it affects you, then you will have realised, if it does not, then you will end your days as corrupt and immoral as you are now.
And if you didnt understand or reject any of what I have just said, then perhaps you may, even with vague recollection one day, when you finally mature enough to be honest to yourself - this being the single most important development of your 'soul' or 'heart'.
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Babye Cakes
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Posted - 2003.11.09 00:50:00 -
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first i am 22. dont care if yall think so. secound my friends and i think this is all funny as all get out. my roommates and i all think that you and the rest of you cry babys are funny. i have never laughed so hard in my life over something so stupid. i stole fake things in fake space on a game. so now that ive done that ive been called sick. wow. so when you kill people on a first person shooter game that makes you sick to. or when you steal stuff from a monster on a RPG your a sick person for stealing. humm. its a game. i just play it for kicks. i have a job, an apt with me and my friends and i go to college part time. ive never been in jail or ever got a speeding ticket. but i steal fake things on a game and now im a sick ****. lol. yall are the sick people. lol. talk to yall later. and my alt is rich with 6 miner 2s and 40m isk. im so happy. lol suckers
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DarK
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Posted - 2003.11.09 00:57:00 -
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Takes someone of questionable character to do such things.
Why does one person decide to steal in game and others don't? Even though it is just a game, it still reflects upon you real life character, your set of morals.
Stop hiding your insecurity by saying "lol" after every sentence, its too obvious.
Please use paragraphs, capital letters at the beginning of each sentence aswell as punctuation if you wish to convince us you are 22 years of age. I find it hard to beleive any adult would write so poorly.
Finally, seek psychological help.
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N0sferathu
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Posted - 2003.11.09 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: N0sferathu on 09/11/2003 01:20:44
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i stole fake things in fake space on a game. so now that ive done that ive been called sick.
You stole 3 weeks of playtime from 5 people. Is that real enough. Some of oure memebers ( me in cluded), bought some isk to advance a little faster. We all have fulltime jobs and a social life to take care of, so w can`t invest the time we want to
So all youre so called fake actions in a fake gworld have real consiqences. And i think the person you "play" here is refelction of the one in real life. You anwser to the same moral standings ( at least i do).
Good day
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Babye Cakes
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Posted - 2003.11.09 01:20:00 -
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nope its not. i still think it is funny that you stupid people keep thinking that since i stole things in game that it shows how i would act in real life. i would never steal anything from my friends and i would never steal from the corps that i have worked for in real life. i dont steal things in real life. i just stole from these people for kicks. now that i have done it and posted what i did showing that i am not scared of what i did show that i do not care about these people that i dont know and these people ill never meet. you dont know me i dont know you. they were dumb enough to give full access and i took advantage of them for it. oh and i am 22 and i do think this is very very very funny. lol.
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N0sferathu
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Posted - 2003.11.09 01:22:00 -
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Why do you keep repeating youre self 
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Nootami
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Posted - 2003.11.09 01:23:00 -
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You can stop mentioning that you are 22, which I dont believe, and that you find this very funny, which it isnt.
And please punctuate your ramblings.
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
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Babye Cakes
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Posted - 2003.11.09 01:26:00 -
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Last Post: nos you suck i hate you. everyone else im 22 and i think this is the funniest thing in the world. yall are sad im out.
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