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Thoreau GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.12.02 00:44:00 - [61] Originally by: Sevarus James Here is a link for Fedora users to get this working: Fedora rpms Hmm, maybe I missed read this. I thought he was linking to 0.9.26 for fedora users. Perhaps he hasn't tested that out yet. Honestly I always think that I screw it up somehow, but let's see with 0.9.25 (in a couple of days).
Hroradi The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.12.02 03:47:00 - [62] Thanks for the great guide. Some questions tho. Does it have to be 0.9.25 or 0.9.24? I tried to do this with 0.9.26, and it went fine, untill i try to start EVE. Then I just get the loading screen, and then no more. Console output is this: nice -19 wine eve.exe fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x33fc34) stub! fixme:actctx:FindActCtxSectionStringW 00000000 (null) 2 L"msvcr80.dll" 0x347acc I compiled wine with the latest pach from El***ER (eve-2006-11-25.diff), but I can't seem to find the MachoNet.bash file any more. 0.9.26 2.6.17 kernel
Megilos	Posted - 2006.12.02 08:05:00 - [63] Edited by: Megilos on 02/12/2006 08:08:30 Ok I've got Ubuntu running, and I've read through the entire thread. While it's great that CCP is working on a linux version of Eve, I'm impatient, and bolstered by others' success I'm soldiering on. My first stumbling block is that when I go here http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb for the Wine source code, and then follow the instructions, the version of Wine that I get is 0.9.22. The directory to apply the patch does not exist, and that's where I am stuck. How are you guys getting 0.9.26? *EDIT I found it by clicking the link on the bottom of that page: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html However, I'm currently compiling (I think--it's all greek to me) the .22 version and I don't want to interrupt that so trying out the newest version will have to wait. Thanks.
Megilos	Posted - 2006.12.02 08:53:00 - [64] So I can't figure out how to get to the directory to install the patch to. I'm really new to this... Anyway, I found a link that describes how to install Wine to work with WoW, and I figured the installing Wine part can't be that different. (I'm not installing WoW-I actually just canx'd my account :) ) Once it's done compiling I'll try from there. Actually, it looks like it will take a while, so I'm off to bed. I'll post all about my success later. :) (Like my optimism?) Cheers!
Gwmngilfen	Posted - 2006.12.02 10:49:00 - [65] Originally by: Megilos Edited by: Megilos on 02/12/2006 08:08:30 Ok I've got Ubuntu running, and I've read through the entire thread. While it's great that CCP is working on a linux version of Eve, I'm impatient, and bolstered by others' success I'm soldiering on. My first stumbling block is that when I go here http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb for the Wine source code, and then follow the instructions, the version of Wine that I get is 0.9.22. The directory to apply the patch does not exist, and that's where I am stuck. How are you guys getting 0.9.26? *EDIT I found it by clicking the link on the bottom of that page: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html However, I'm currently compiling (I think--it's all greek to me) the .22 version and I don't want to interrupt that so trying out the newest version will have to wait. Thanks. I don't think CCP are producing a Linux client - the closest we might get is the Mac/Cider wrapper through Transgaming. If all you got was 0.9.22 you probably only added the deb source and not the deb-src source. Check in your /etc/apt/sources.lists (nano /etc/apt/sources.list) and make sure you have the line: deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main then you should get 0.9.26 when you do the apt-get source command.
Gwmngilfen	Posted - 2006.12.02 11:13:00 - [66] Ok, so I got further - I guess there's a problem with 0.9.26. I compiled 0.9.25 and it runs fine (to the login screen anyway - it's downtime at the moment :P) More results later Gwm
Megilos	Posted - 2006.12.02 18:45:00 - [67] Originally by: Gwmngilfen Ok, so I got further - I guess there's a problem with 0.9.26. I compiled 0.9.25 and it runs fine (to the login screen anyway - it's downtime at the moment :P) More results later Gwm Good to hear. I'm at work for the next 10 hours so no tinkering until then :( Let us know how it goes when you get a chance. Cheers!
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.03 02:52:00 - [68] Originally by: Gwmngilfen Ok, so I got further - I guess there's a problem with 0.9.26. I compiled 0.9.25 and it runs fine (to the login screen anyway - it's downtime at the moment :P) More results later Gwm Don't think there is a problem with 9.26. I'm running that and had the client up and playing all night last night. Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
Megilos	Posted - 2006.12.03 04:29:00 - [69] Originally by: Sevarus James Originally by: Gwmngilfen Ok, so I got further - I guess there's a problem with 0.9.26. I compiled 0.9.25 and it runs fine (to the login screen anyway - it's downtime at the moment :P) More results later Gwm Don't think there is a problem with 9.26. I'm running that and had the client up and playing all night last night. Can you briefly list what you did, if it's not too much trouble? Did you have to install Nvidia's proprietary drivers (if you're using Nvidia anyway)? Thanks!
Gwmngilfen	Posted - 2006.12.03 13:39:00 - [70] Hmm, 0.9.26 really wouldn't fly for me. Now that I have EVE running on 0.9.25, I don't want to break it. Is there a significant improvement in 0.9.26? If not, I'm not sure I want to risk it.... Gwm
VCBee 118	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:16:00 - [71] I've spent the last few hours looking this one over. Looks like the people who try under .25 are having success whereas .26 just wont work (after working out the library problems you are left with one error so wine has most likely broken some thing between versions). I'm currently compiling .25 with patches to see if it works. Note that compiling under gcc 3.4 can avoid the fps issues some have reported. There is a mirror of Elfes patches (past and present) and a list of information + a quick guide for those looking to get eve working under wine available at http://eps.homelinux.org/eve/ - This gets updated rather often.
MrData	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:38:00 - [72] http://eps.homelinux.org/eve seems to be down atm.
VCBee 118	Posted - 2006.12.03 19:04:00 - [73] Fixed I believe. Now to go die of lack of sleep. Happy flying and please send corrections/ways to setup the compile time parts for other distros and any fixes you have for fps.
sinemue	Posted - 2006.12.03 20:53:00 - [74] I wish ccp will do what google did with google earth: collaborated with wine-hq to give a semi-native google-earth with linux. Quick and as a matter of fact reliable port.
Dwindlehop F13	Posted - 2006.12.03 22:18:00 - [75] I'm stuck on Preparing Data and can't log in. Anyone else have this problem? I had Dragon working with Cedega. I want to change my skills while I wait on Transgaming to make Revelations work on Cedega, so I'm giving wine a try. I have Debian, a Pentium 4 3.0GHz, and wine 9.25. I applied Elf's patch. I don't see MachoNet.bash on his website anymore. Is that still required? The installation went fine. I had to do the fonts registry hack and d3dx_30.dll hack to get the login window to come up. I still get the d3dx version error after the splash screen loads, but when I click Yes the login screen loads. I get the TQ status fine and can enter my name and password. I can authenticate, acquire bulk data, and begin preparing data, but preparing data stops making forward progress in the middle. I still get the animations and 100% CPU utilization. In fact, the progress bar still ticks up very slowly, but I left it for over an hour and it didn't complete. I tried on a clean install and my existing Cedega install. Any thoughts? Here's the wine output, not that I think it is helpful. jdpearce@pughbert:~/.cedega/Eve2/c_drive/Program Files/CCP/EVE$ /usr/local/bin/wine eve.exe fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x33fc34) stub! fixme:actctx:FindActCtxSectionStringW 00000000 (null) 2 L"msvcr80.dll" 0x347acc jdpearce@pughbert:~/.cedega/Eve2/c_drive/Program Files/CCP/EVE$ fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_GetAvailableTextureMem (0x170ab0) : stub, simulating 64MB for now, returning 64MB left err:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_SetRenderState Multisample antialiasing not supported by gl fixme:imm:ImmReleaseContext (0x100038, 0x1588a8): stub fixme:imm:ImmGetIMEFileNameA (0x4090409, 0x34a760, 260): stub err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Could not map sound device for direct access (Input/output error) err:wave:DSDB_MapBuffer Please run winecfg, open "Audio" page and set "Hardware Acceleration" to "Emulation". fixme:imm:ImmGetIMEFileNameA (0x4090409, 0x34a784, 260): stub fixme:imm:ImmReleaseContext (0x100038, 0x1588a8): stub fixme:imm:ImmReleaseContext (0x100038, 0x1588a8): stub fixme:imm:ImmNotifyIME NI_CLOSECANDIDATE
VCBee 118	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:49:00 - [76] Originally by: Dwindlehop I'm stuck on Preparing Data and can't log in. Anyone else have this problem? I can't see any worrying errors in your log...I suggest clearing your cache and checking out the windows solution to this error. I've noticed I've been effected by more windows issues than ever with this patch! 0_o; Thanks for the corrections via irc - I'm looking through Elfe's forum posts for ways to shorten the steps, specifically the d3dx9 part.
Thoreau GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.12.04 06:14:00 - [77] Got things working with wine-0.9.25 as well.
Megilos	Posted - 2006.12.04 08:17:00 - [78] I got to the Revelations splash screen, but then it sits there for about a minute and then dumps me out. I'm using 0.9.26 and I'm stuck... I'll report any progress if I have some...
Megilos	Posted - 2006.12.04 09:55:00 - [79] Edited by: Megilos on 04/12/2006 09:55:59 oops, double post, sry
VCBee 118	Posted - 2006.12.04 11:04:00 - [80] Originally by: Megilos Edited by: Megilos on 04/12/2006 09:55:08 I got to the Revelations splash screen, but then it sits there for about a minute and then dumps me out. I'm using 0.9.26 and I'm stuck... I'll report any progress if I have some... First off, DO NOT RUN WINE OR ANY USERLAND APPLICATIONS AS ROOT. You will now need to check all of your config files to make sure the right user owns them. Secondly, follow the guide at eps.homelinux.org/eve . It will be updated to use .26 when some one works out how to get it to work. Though for now you'll have to stick to .25. Thirdly, DO NOT RUN AS ROOT AS YOU ARE JUST ASKING FOR TROUBLE (see using Windows).
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:49:00 - [81] Edited by: Sevarus James on 04/12/2006 20:50:10 Originally by: Megilos Originally by: Sevarus James Originally by: Gwmngilfen Ok, so I got further - I guess there's a problem with 0.9.26. I compiled 0.9.25 and it runs fine (to the login screen anyway - it's downtime at the moment :P) More results later Gwm Don't think there is a problem with 9.26. I'm running that and had the client up and playing all night last night. Can you briefly list what you did, if it's not too much trouble? Did you have to install Nvidia's proprietary drivers (if you're using Nvidia anyway)? Thanks! First, of course I'm using the nvidia binaries. The open source versions will NOT be playable. I downloaded .9.26, extracted it in a directory, copied elf's diffs as per the OP's original post, patched 9.26 with it. Ran the make and then the install make. Ran the winecfg to set sound and video settings. (fullscreen or windowed mode). Copied my 'settings' folder from my transgaming version (to ensure that video rez and ingame window settings were what I wanted). The game plays, albeit with slower frame rate (by about 60% lower than cedega's implementation.), but it IS playable. Examples: in station: 40-60fps in space around station: 10-20fps around POS: 7-10fps belts: 8-15fps PVP fight around gate (7 vs 8+drones and wrecks): 5-15fps on average. As I said, its not 'fast', but it will work. CCP has also via their patch notes indicated that it was them that biffed up on the cedega issues, so that will be running (hopefully) after Tuesday. With wine progressing with speed toward playability, as well as CCP's vocal support for Transgaming, as well as the cider implementation for the client for MACs, we are in a position of wealth regarding choice rarely seen in the open source world regarding commercial gaming. I completely agree to NOT install this as root. Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
Megilos	Posted - 2006.12.05 00:40:00 - [82] Oops about the root thing. Yeah I know now how bad that is--forgive me, I've only been running Ubuntu since last Thursday :) I couldn't get "sudo" commands to work at the time. No worries, I'm not above reinstalling Ubuntu again in order to fix things if need be. Can't wait to se what tonight's patch will do for us hopeful linux gamers. Cheers.
Cloricus	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:32:00 - [83] Edited by: Cloricus on 06/12/2006 01:40:55 I only get between 8 and 10 fps in space while station fps is normal (25 or so). A mate with a much better pc is also having the same results. Guessing it's a limitation some where?
VCBee 118	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:47:00 - [84] Originally by: Sevarus James With wine progressing with speed toward playability, as well as CCP's vocal support for Transgaming, as well as the cider implementation for the client for MACs, we are in a position of wealth regarding choice rarely seen in the open source world regarding commercial gaming. To be honest I feel the effort on CCPs behalf would be better spent giving icculus (of icculus.org/ut2k4/d3/q4/etc/etc/etc fame) the EVE engine and client to port to the SDL/openAL libraries. That way for a small cost (no idea what working with Transgaming is costing them) they could have a fully cross platform native client for mac/lin/sol that wouldn't suffer the problems of a Windows compatibility layer. Or you know...They could write the engine in opengl and avoid all these issues...Oh thats right; The selling of their souls to Microsoft blocks that...Righto... Long live DX10 I guess? </snipe>
Bo Shin	Posted - 2006.12.18 08:34:00 - [85] Strangely enough, I got EVE running on a plain jane apt-get install wine on my ubuntu box. Don't ask how, because I really can't explain it. Never have been able to get wine to compile from source on my amd64 box. So being retire with LOTS of free time, I installed the 32-bit edgy. This is what I did: 1. sudo apt-get install build-dep wine 2. sudo apt-get source wine 3. ./configure (no errors) 4. make depend (no errors) 5. make (nothing but errors) 6. lots of swearing and threats with various large, heavy tools 7. sudo apt-get install wine (this installed 0.9.27) maybe they fixed something 8. installed EVE without patching anything in wine. I know just doing that shouldn't work but it did. EVE started up just fine, although it took forever to get past aquiring bulk data. If anyone is interested, I'll go back through a fresh install and try everything set-by-step and see what happens. Maybe that way I can figure out why it isn't dying a glorious flaming death.
Bo Shin	Posted - 2006.12.18 08:35:00 - [86] Strangely enough, I got EVE running on a plain jane apt-get install wine on my ubuntu box. Don't ask how, because I really can't explain it. Never have been able to get wine to compile from source on my amd64 box. So being retire with LOTS of free time, I installed the 32-bit edgy. This is what I did: 1. sudo apt-get install build-dep wine 2. sudo apt-get source wine 3. ./configure (no errors) 4. make depend (no errors) 5. make (nothing but errors) 6. lots of swearing and threats with various large, heavy tools 7. sudo apt-get install wine (this installed 0.9.27) maybe they fixed something 8. installed EVE without patching anything in wine. I know just doing that shouldn't work but it did. EVE started up just fine, although it took forever to get past aquiring bulk data. If anyone is interested, I'll go back through a fresh install and try everything set-by-step and see what happens. Maybe that way I can figure out why it isn't dying a glorious flaming death.
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:58:00 - [87] I see that wine 0.9.28 was released. mentions the following: Wine 0.9.28 was released today, with the following main changes: * OpenGL in child windows should work again. * Better mouse support in games. * Beginnings of new state management in Direct3D. * Improved audio and font support on Mac OS. * Lots of bug fixes. --------------- So anyone testing this version with EVE? Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
ElfeGER Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.24 23:36:00 - [88] Edited by: El*ER on 24/12/2006 23:37:11 EVE is working fine with wine-0.9.28+patch just needs a it fiddling with the screenmodes (try alt+enter at char selection and check the gfx options) (that's caused by a new Reset implementaion in wine which isn't fully working yet) had my carrier sitting over 8 hours at pos with around 10 fps (1280x800 with lots of ships) no ctd, abnormal memory usage or performance loss armor rep effect still white (unknown cause) smartbomb effect (GL_NEAREST instead of GL_LINEAR somewhere) jumpdrive effect looks a bit funky colored
Megilos	Posted - 2006.12.26 19:46:00 - [89] When you say you got it working +patch, what patch are you refering to? I've just installed Wine via Automatix (latest version) and now I'm d/l the Eve client. Please can you clarify the patch you mentioned? thx.
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.27 05:39:00 - [90] Originally by: Megilos Edited by: Megilos on 27/12/2006 01:58:04 Edited by: Megilos on 27/12/2006 01:55:26 When you say you got it working +patch, what patch are you refering to? I've just installed Wine via Automatix (latest version) and now I'm d/l the Eve client. Please can you clarify the patch you mentioned? thx. EDIT** Ok, I installed Wine .28, and then got the latest EVE client, and ran sudo wine EVE_Setup_27912.exe Installed fine. Ran it like this: sudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/CCP/EVE/EVE.exe but it came up with a d3dx9_30.dll missing error. I downloaded that and copied it to the system32 folder in Wine, then ran winecfg and typed d3dx9_30.dll in the libriaries and ran the program again. It loaded up to the login page! Woot! Then Eve asked me to download the latest patch (3mb I think) and that worked fine. Then I reran Eve, but it wouldn't let me type in the text boxes--every time I tried to type in my name and pw, the text ended up in the terminal window. No sweat, I copy/pasted them into their appropriate boxes. Took a little while to acquire bulk data, then it ran! Only thing is that it only occupied about the bottom right hand 1/4 of the screen and I couldn't see any of the menus. I ended up having restart Ubuntu to get back to a normal desktop... So that's where i'm at right now. GL anyone else who tries :) As you asked about the patch, I'm guessing you haven't been following along now, have you? Wine is getting damn close to running EVE without any fixes, but not quite yet. Elfiger has been maintaining a patch which resolves most of the problems that wine has with eve, and you can find it here: Elfiger's wine diff patch Now fyi, you DO need to compile wine rather than a binary download, and the link from elfiger's site will point you to the wikki to explain the process. Its getting closer to 'install > run', but not yet. Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV

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