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AtramLolipop Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.08.24 17:41:06 - [1] - Quote Don't agree with your statement one bit. Content has disappeared because of cap changes, multiboxing and stagnation within the power blocks who have nothing to fight for or over. Incursions represent a minute amount of ISK that is generated within the economy and if you look at hard evidence, actually human behavior trends, it tells you that CCP are doing the right thing for their client base.
AtramLolipop Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.08.25 15:47:03 - [2] - Quote Ridiculous post. High sec incursions represent an minute amount of ISK that is generated in the Eve economy. The amount of people that run incursions run into 100's, not 1000's that run missions and rat in null sec. Get over this already.
AtramLolipop Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2015.11.20 00:10:32 - [3] - Quote There is nothing wrong with HS incursions nothing at all. What you do not seem to understand is that they are a huge iSK SINK. Yes they bring ISK into the game but they also take a huge amount of isk out of the game. Is nonsense to speak of less risk in HS incursions, absolutely ******** statement.
AtramLolipop Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2015.11.20 00:12:40 - [4] - Quote Valacus wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Valacus wrote: The one non-PvP activity you actually have to have a group for(not just multi-boxing 3 accounts) and you want to get rid of it? Should we just call the game multi-box online? If Incursions really make that much ISK, then go run them yourself. It's the one PvE activity that requires a fleet. What's wrong with that having a decent payout? Of course that should pay more than soloing Lvl 4s. It should pay more than most things in high sec, if not everything. shouldnt pay more than everything else in the game though should it? and it shouldnt be more worthwhile running them in highsec than anywhere else So buff other forms of income then. I don't have an issue with nulsec paying more than it does. I welcome any change that reduces the amount of multi-boxing and multiple account running that happens in this game. There's no reason I should have to own and run 3 accounts just because I live in nulsec. Incursion running let's me cut down on how many accounts I use because I have the ISK to fund all my funsies all from one source. What's so wrong with that? Nulsec has a hard time doing the same because nulsec is poorly designed. Even if I had to grind level 4s to make ISK, I'd still take that over nulsec because I don't find the reward to be worth all the stress I have to go through just to run a few havens, let alone 10/10 DED sites. Nulsec doesn't pay enough to get me out of high sec when it comes to ISK generation. That means nulsec needs a buff, not incursions need to be completely removed. Actually yes - they should pay more than other forms of PVE. There isn't a single site that can be solo-ed. Unlike most of null sec and missions hell even most lvl 5's can be completed solo. You can play the game in null, thats your choice, it's ridiculous , "you can't play in null sec without several accounts" yes you can but if you do that's your choice.
AtramLolipop Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2015.11.20 00:16:18 - [5] - Quote Mr Mieyli wrote: I run incursions regularly on my main and I agree wholeheartedly with the OP. Humans are a bad mix of clever and lazy; give them an easy isk option like incursions and they WILL take advantage of it. The only reason ever to stop is that you're bored of making money, but at that point why try any of the other activities eve offers? Lowering the payouts on incursions to less than a null / lowsec income would be a good start. Before you say it; No, null/low sec incursions do not pay better because time and efficiency are factors that weigh the balance heavily in favour of highsec. Nerfing incursion payouts can lead only to benefits for all. Don't be silly incursions are run by a small group of players, and i bet bottom dollar most of them are accounts of people who play in null sec mainly. changing HS incursions won't change a thing, people want a safe way to make isk to experience the game by other means.
AtramLolipop Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2015.11.21 01:13:32 - [6] - Quote Persifonne wrote: Hilti Enaka wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Hilti Enaka wrote: baltec1 wrote: Why would we waste time killing the mother ship? As said we will abuse this easy isk ourselves and have nothing to gain from killing the mother ship. We'll look forward to seeing you then. ' What do you mean? Were already here lol. I've been running incursions (with a few breaks) for 5 years. That's what you short sighted folks don't see. Either way, we win. What's being asked for is a better rewards balance, not punishment of people just playing within the rules. all 450 people of us. Correction 295 people by tonights active users. How on earth are you still badgering on about playing within the rules, its a group activity. Haven't you made enough isk from these Plex printing incursions dude? You need to print billions for tge next 5 years too man? Wtf are you bill gates? Dont ve greedy, just support a medium sized payout nerf and everyone wins. Disagree, nothing needs changing
AtramLolipop Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2015.11.21 02:21:20 - [7] - Quote Persifonne wrote: Its okay to make a plex over the weekend with basically zero risk of awoxing, wardecs, and suicide ganks in highsec? Thats like crazy isk even if you only do them say 5hrs a weekend. Thats 4 plex a month risk free. No problem here? Let me correct this: Zero risk of awoxing Wardecs, and Suicide ganks -> happens regularly. In 5 hours I've managed 16 poses - solo activity In 5 hours i've cherned 16 lvl 5's - solo activity In 5 hours i've ratted in my carrier - solo activity A mandatory requirement for that 5 hours is the complete trust of strangers with your ship and a high level of team work. Whilst it its a group activity there is absolutely no problem here.
AtramLolipop Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2015.11.21 03:28:47 - [8] - Quote baltec1 wrote: AtramLolipop wrote: Persifonne wrote: Its okay to make a plex over the weekend with basically zero risk of awoxing, wardecs, and suicide ganks in highsec? Thats like crazy isk even if you only do them say 5hrs a weekend. Thats 4 plex a month risk free. No problem here? Let me correct this: Zero risk of awoxing Wardecs, and Suicide ganks -> happens regularly. In 5 hours I've managed 16 poses - solo activity In 5 hours i've cherned 16 lvl 5's - solo activity In 5 hours i've ratted in my carrier - solo activity A mandatory requirement for that 5 hours is the complete trust of strangers with your ship and a high level of team work. Whilst it its a group activity there is absolutely no problem here. Why do you feel the need to not just lie, but to lie about things that are so easily disproven? I'm lying because I've been able to do make isk through solo means for plex in 5 hours?
AtramLolipop Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2015.11.21 03:56:53 - [9] - Quote Let's try again because you're far from the truth. baltec1 wrote: Chances of being ganked in a mission boat are the same as being struck by lightning in real life. You are in a fleet with combat capable ships, buffer tanks and with logi support. You aren't getting ganked. Equally you are not going to get wardecs because NPC corps cant be wardeced and nobody will awox these days. dear boy ganking doesn't happen in sites. baltec1 wrote: Ratting in sov null is a group activity spanning hundreds to thousands of other pilots who put in a lot more time and work than any incursion fleet. The fact that the incursion fleet in highsec earns a lot more for far less work and risk is a big problem. Try the fact that with out a solid back bone a HS incursion is useless. Ratting in null sec is very much a solo activity I don't care what you say about time and work, both require effort but ratting is very done solo. baltec1 wrote: Line members don't own moons, we don't get one personal money moon let alone 16. These are alliance assets as it requires an alliance to protect it. You're doing it wrong, that's the most ******** thing i've ever heard.

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