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Draco Wraith
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.27 19:48:43 -
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Hi,
Ok, so I did another topic about returning from a long time away..
I would like to get into Exploration, But i don't know where to begin. I have an anathema apparently lol. I'm not sure if i should get a Stratios to practice more... I have the ISK.. Where should i start and with what ship? lower sec/null or higher sec.
Should i really be aiming for a T3 Strategic cruiser? If so which one?
I am Amarr and the obvious choice is the Legion, but reading up on that it is not the best apparently? how comes? Should I aim for the Tengu, However being Amarr I'm not really adept in missiles. I'd like it to really be able to hold its own in most situations.
I know the Opportunities are coming out tomorrow but I imagine that wont advise me on ships.
Thanks folks. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9497
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Posted - 2015.04.27 20:05:07 -
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have you done the exploration career missions?
Stick with the t2 frig for now, particularly if you're leaving highsec.
The stratios is fantastic but don't take one into low just yet,
get a feel for the mechanics first and you will be faster doing that in a frig.
Imo the legion is fine , it's just not the best so people call it bad, imo it's balanced fairly well compared to the other t3s.
it's a bit slow I suppose but I don't really care about that so ...
Though it's worth noting that it's cloaky dps is terrible, like really bad so if you're planning on using that sub and shooting things then absolutey go with something else.
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Draco Wraith
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.27 20:12:20 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:have you done the exploration career missions?
Stick with the t2 frig for now, particularly if you're leaving highsec.
The stratios is fantastic but don't take one into low just yet,
get a feel for the mechanics first and you will be faster doing that in a frig.
Imo the legion is fine , it's just not the best so people call it bad, imo it's balanced fairly well compared to the other t3s.
it's a bit slow I suppose but I don't really care about that so ...
Though it's worth noting that it's cloaky dps is terrible, like really bad so if you're planning on using that sub and shooting things then absolutey go with something else.
So the Legion is bad at cloaking and combat from cloak? Isnt that sorta the point of Strategic cruisers? :D So for a combat ship aswell as combat Legion is not the way to go?
Damn im going to have to retrain ALOT of skills to use something else..... Is it really that bad when cmopared to the others? what makes the others better? :O
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
520
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Posted - 2015.04.27 20:26:32 -
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I made a Gallente toon and trained it right into Minmatar ships so just because you are Amarr doesn't mean that's where your skills are or should be. However that's getting a little off topic. Exploration is kind of a big profession in game in that you can wind up doing anything. Probably early on you'll want to stick to hacking and relic sites as you can do those in your scanning frig. You'll have a hard time making isk in high sec but you can find wormholes in high sec that will often have valuable sites.
Beyond the sites that you can do in a scanning frigate things get more complicated and you need to start making decisions on what you want to do. You can scan down gas sites and ore sites and in wormholes and even null they can be valuable. You can scan down combat sites in null sec they are called complexs and some of them require multiple BSs or a BS with logi support. Wormhole combat sites can scale all the way up to needing fleets of large or capital class ships with logi support but certainly you will need at least a BC or T2 cruiser at a minimum to solo even the easiest combat sites in wormholes.
Anything beyond the hacking and relic sites that can be done in the scanning frigate and you almost have to switch ships and / or bring friends. I've seen people fit probe launchers to other ships but imho it's not a great idea in most cases. It winds up being difficult to scan without the bonuses and you often wind up having to give up too much fitting room to make it work. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
4164
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Posted - 2015.04.27 20:30:32 -
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The way the world works is as such:
-DPS
-Covert Cloak
-Tank
Pick 2.
The few exceptions to this I'm aware of are the Stratios and Proteus though the Proteus need tome really high end skills and expensive mods to pull that off.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
520
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Posted - 2015.04.27 20:30:32 -
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Draco Wraith wrote:
Should i really be aiming for a T3 Strategic cruiser? If so which one?
Strategic cruisers are about to get nerfed. Probably not a great idea to focus on getting into one now if you are not really close skill wise. However I'm sure they will still be decent ships in the future.
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Draco Wraith
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.27 20:41:16 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Draco Wraith wrote:
Should i really be aiming for a T3 Strategic cruiser? If so which one?
Strategic cruisers are about to get nerfed. Probably not a great idea to focus on getting into one now if you are not really close skill wise. However I'm sure they will still be decent ships in the future.
:O nerfed? how so where can i read this? :D
So.. Should i use my Anathema for practice.. then get into a Stratios? (i really love the look of the SOE ships :D Really i want to make some ISK off relic sites, So im guessing ill need drones for protection. I have fairly high skill in drones.
I also have another account of a Mimitar , I can roll around with at the same time, maybe i should get her a cloak too. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2015.04.27 21:57:21 -
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For non-combat exploration a cov ops frig (empire or the Sister's Astero) is fast and perfectly fine. If you want interdiction nullifier go for T3 or the poor man's solution, the relic ceptor.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
592
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Posted - 2015.04.27 22:04:58 -
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Your idea of ship progression is a bit off.
Start off with the cov ops frigate, then move to an all-in-one _Tech 1 Cruiser_, usually a drone boat, with maybe a rig for probe strength and sisters of eve probes.
Do a T3 cruiser only if you just love this stuff so much you wanna do it all the time, and do it so much you're actually making the money to pay for one. |
Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.28 07:19:51 -
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I do relic sites on an alt from time to time to (hopefully) make extra cash. While I'm sure better ships and mods help, she does just fine with level 4 in Caldari frigate and level 4 archeology. I look for relics in C3 and below WHs, as well as the occasional dive into Nullsec. My best pay day so far was 815 million ISK thanks to a very very lucky drop while I was in null. I had to somehow find my way home w/o a cloak because the alt couldn't use one yet. The point is, yes, the Stratios and Astero are much better. The thing is though, your own personal knowledge is going to have a far greater bearing on your success than a better ship. That's why it's recommended for you to start with the T1 or T2 exploration frigates. They're cheap to replace when you make a mistake.
Besides, the Anathema is a pretty sexy beast too.
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Angry Ex
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.04.28 07:49:47 -
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Don't worry about dps or a tank. Just fit a scan frig up with analyzers and scan modules, a cloak, grav rigs, and go find a WH that will eventually get you into null. Many times they'll lead to some outskirts with a very low population.
From there just map out a few routes away from jumps/kills in the past hour and scan em down. You can spend days out there before your hull is full or you have enough loot you think you'd like to take it back. Avoiding cloakys with bookmarks, local spikes, and bubbles isn't too bad. Getting back home can be hairy but that's the fun of it.
Scan WH later once you are trained up for a bigger ship or made enough to risk a stratios
That's just my opinion. |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
249
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:26:42 -
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CCP changed the whole mechanics around some aspects of exploration. My advice is to run sites in high sec while you get used to those new mechanics and then move off to low / nul /wh as you see fit. I have seen many old and returning characters end up on the wrong side of a kill board as they struggled to get used to the new mechanics while trying to stay safe in low / nuil / wh.
Just a thought, something for you to consider. |
Draco Wraith
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:43:01 -
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Donnachadh wrote:CCP changed the whole mechanics around some aspects of exploration. My advice is to run sites in high sec while you get used to those new mechanics and then move off to low / nul /wh as you see fit. I have seen many old and returning characters end up on the wrong side of a kill board as they struggled to get used to the new mechanics while trying to stay safe in low / nuil / wh.
Just a thought, something for you to consider.
What mechanics have they changed? |
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