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Marchet Aggregator School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.04.28 23:58:13 - [1] - Quote Hi, I'm going to farm standing for some NPC corporations and I need a good fit for blitzing L3 missions. I can fly any ship sub-capital, much time ago when I started running missions I used a passive Drake, but it was a long time ago, missiles have been nerfed since that. So I would like a gunboat (I'm tired of missiles travel time), thta is fast (speed) and fast at blitzing L3's and also cheap, because I'm a cheap carebear.
Paranoid Loyd 4921	Posted - 2015.04.29 00:11:42 - [2] - Quote Rail Tengu with HVO rigs https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=408949 "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Arthur Aihaken Jormungand Corporation 4383	Posted - 2015.04.29 03:50:40 - [3] - Quote RHML Barghest. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Rexxorr Zero Corp Tax3 76	Posted - 2015.04.29 05:19:20 - [4] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Rail Tengu with HVO rigs (Proteus is not bad, but Tengu gets the range bonus making it better as damage projection is key) When blitzing, you will spend the most time warping, so the bonused subsystem and the HVO rigs make T3s a very good choice for blitzing. Also for your consideration: Machariel Cynabal Raven (RHML fit with HVO rigs) Ishtar Good reading: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=408949 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=401998 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345580 Agree, Rail Tengu is the way to blitz lvl 3s.
Caligula Gaius Claudian Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2015.04.29 07:03:04 - [5] - Quote Confessor is your new toy, forget about fangu.
Cardinal T Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2015.04.29 17:03:25 - [6] - Quote I wouldnt call a Tengu cheap. :P If you are looking for a solid cheap ish ship you cant go wrong withthe Navy Auguror nor the Navy Omen. In both the Damage damage is insane and they are tough as nails. The Nomen is the mnore nimble of the 2 and it has more drones, but the Augurer is tougher and has potentially more damage from its guns at high levels of Amarr Cruiser skill I set mine up something like this 4 Focused Beam lasers (3 for the NAuguror, the Ship bonus increases their Damage.) 3 Capacitor rigs Mwd and 2 Cap rechargers 800 Rolled tungsten plate 3 Heatsinks MAR II Reactive armour Hardener EANM I've done dozens of Level 3 missions with this setup as I was working on all 4 empires stanings to do their Epic arcs, and I never had any trouble with any of them. Just burn out to range and snipe them to death. Easy. You could put heavy beams on the NAuguror for even more damage but I found the cap drain too heavy. Your milage may vary. Also pulses (aside from scorch) gets you a touch too close to the action for my tastes, but beams will do the job just fine.;
Paranoid Loyd 4942	Posted - 2015.04.29 18:05:18 - [7] - Quote Cardinal T wrote: I wouldnt call a Tengu cheap. :P And I wouldn't call a T2 fit Tengu expensive, cheap is a relative term, without a budgetary number, requests for cheap are ignored. But if we are talking sub 100 mil this is how I would do it (Requires EG-603 or CA-1 implant): [Brutix, LVL 3] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II 250mm Railgun II Small Tractor Beam I Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Hobgoblin II x5 "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 15753	Posted - 2015.04.29 18:07:16 - [8] - Quote Mach, hands down. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Marchet Aggregator School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.04.29 21:10:13 - [9] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Cardinal T wrote: I wouldnt call a Tengu cheap. :P And I wouldn't call a T2 fit Tengu expensive, cheap is a relative term, without a budgetary number, requests for cheap are ignored. It was my fault to don't say the maximum ISK, but a T3 it's too much ISK for a L3, the Tengu would be more than 300kk just for the hull and subsystems. Let's say that the maximum would be something like 250kk, any new suggestion?
Paranoid Loyd 4947	Posted - 2015.04.29 21:15:42 - [10] - Quote If that is your budget, Ishtar "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!

Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1427	Posted - 2015.04.29 22:02:20 - [11] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Rail Tengu with HVO rigs (Proteus is not bad, but Tengu gets the range bonus making it better as damage projection is key) When blitzing, you will spend the most time warping, so the bonused subsystem and the HVO rigs make T3s a very good choice for blitzing. Also for your consideration: Machariel Cynabal Raven (RHML fit with HVO rigs) Ishtar Good reading: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=408949 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=401998 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345580 Thanks for those links, I was wanting to look at something in that direction as well.
Tiddle Jr Galvanized Inc. 140	Posted - 2015.04.29 23:37:36 - [12] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Mach, hands down. Surprisingly but Baltec didn't mention Megarhron...
Arthur Aihaken Jormungand Corporation 4397	Posted - 2015.04.29 23:50:16 - [13] - Quote Tiddle Jr wrote: Surprisingly but Baltec didn't mention Megarhron... He likes his warp-speed enhanced ships. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 1082	Posted - 2015.04.30 04:02:27 - [14] - Quote Marchet Aggregator wrote: Paranoid Loyd wrote: Cardinal T wrote: I wouldnt call a Tengu cheap. :P And I wouldn't call a T2 fit Tengu expensive, cheap is a relative term, without a budgetary number, requests for cheap are ignored. It was my fault to don't say the maximum ISK, but a T3 it's too much ISK for a L3, the Tengu would be more than 300kk just for the hull and subsystems. Let's say that the maximum would be something like 250kk, any new suggestion? seems like a completely arbitrary cutoff to me, but hey your time/isk. Plus the ishtar fits in there very well, and does a kick ass job! With the warp speed rig changes you can probably even throw something in the highslots. haven't tried a cynabal but with the warp speed it is probably decent. The complete lack of EHP bothers me a little, but usually not sitting around long enough to get noticed, and there isn't anything shiny on there, so probably okay. [Ishtar, lv3 blitz] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Medium Armor Repairer II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script Civilian Gatling Railgun, Civilian Railgun Charge Civilian Gatling Railgun, Civilian Railgun Charge [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Garde II x5 Warden II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet II x5 Acolyte II x5 Warrior II x5 @ChainsawPlankto
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 15763	Posted - 2015.04.30 04:20:11 - [15] - Quote Tiddle Jr wrote: baltec1 wrote: Mach, hands down. Surprisingly but Baltec didn't mention Megarhron... I have yet to figure out a way to beat the machs blisteringly fast times. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Tiddle Jr Galvanized Inc. 143	Posted - 2015.04.30 10:24:03 - [16] - Quote [Cynabal, Moonwalker] no implants. 7.82 AU, 487 DPS-3,467 ALPHA, heavy CPU load out. Costs 585m. Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Domination 10MN Microwarpdrive Optical Tracking Computer I, Tracking Speed Script Optical Tracking Computer I, Tracking Speed Script F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M [Empty High slot] Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
afkalt Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1133	Posted - 2015.04.30 11:36:11 - [17] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Tiddle Jr wrote: baltec1 wrote: Mach, hands down. Surprisingly but Baltec didn't mention Megarhron... I have yet to figure out a way to beat the machs blisteringly fast times. And you wont, because warp speed. If a ship had sufficient raw DPS and application to claw back the time lost in transit, it would be nerfed tomorrow Actually a full gank astarte or 650mm sleipnir might get up there. I'd need to eft warrior some.
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 119	Posted - 2015.04.30 14:20:13 - [18] - Quote Tiddle Jr wrote: baltec1 wrote: Mach, hands down. Surprisingly but Baltec didn't mention Megarhron... . . . . and he didn't mention my Tengu. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Tiddle Jr Galvanized Inc. 145	Posted - 2015.04.30 20:12:02 - [19] - Quote Ion Kirst wrote: . . . . and he didn't mention my Tengu. For the missions Stoic posted, my Tengu beat the Mach in almost every one! I did post those results. Even after the nerf on the ROF on rails, I stll could turn in better times. -Kirst By the way, could you please share what subs are you using on your Tengu. Maybe i did miss but couldn't find those in threads. I'm trying to compare with Proteus bild up which Paranod Loyd suggested as a possible competitor.
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 121	Posted - 2015.04.30 21:14:25 - [20] - Quote Tiddle Jr wrote: Ion Kirst wrote: . . . . and he didn't mention my Tengu. For the missions Stoic posted, my Tengu beat the Mach in almost every one! I did post those results. Even after the nerf on the ROF on rails, I stll could turn in better times. -Kirst By the way, could you please share what subs are you using on your Tengu. Maybe i did miss but couldn't find those in threads. I'm trying to compare with Proteus bild up which Paranod Loyd suggested as a possible competitor. OK, here's everything: Rigs: 3 x Hyperspatial Velocity Opt. II HIghs: 6 x 250mm Rails II, Caldari Antimatter, before nerf 720dps, after nerf 670 Mids: 3 x Tracking Computer II, (optimal range/ tracking speed script) Sensor Booster II, (Scan Res.) Pith C-type MSB (this is the tank, and worked just fine in blitzing) 10mn MWD II Lows: 4 x Federation MFS (or 3 and one Inertial Stab) Sub systems: Diss Seq. Supp. Screen Power Core Mag Inf. Grav. Cap Implants: WS-610, MR-703, MH-805, SS-905, WU-1003 Even after I posted my results, I continued to blitz L3s, recording the results. The times posted are actually an average, so some times were actually faster. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.

baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 15787	Posted - 2015.05.01 02:30:10 - [21] - Quote Ion Kirst wrote: Tiddle Jr wrote: baltec1 wrote: Mach, hands down. Surprisingly but Baltec didn't mention Megarhron... . . . . and he didn't mention my Tengu. For the missions Stoic posted, my Tengu beat the Mach in almost every one! I did post those results. Even after the nerf on the ROF on rails, I stll could turn in better times. -Kirst Tengu got nerfed since then and its in line for more nerfs. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Tiddle Jr Galvanized Inc. 149	Posted - 2015.05.01 13:31:51 - [22] - Quote [Proteus, 250mm rails] (9.32 AU; 1,432 m/s MWD; align time 8.06 s; DPS 602, 1,874 Volley; tracking speed 0.063 rad/sec; rof 3.11 s; Tengu outperforms this set up only in align time and rails tracking speed. Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer x4 Tracking Enhancer II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer Tracking Computer II x2 Sensor Booster II 10MN Microwarpdrive II 250mm Railgun II x6, Federation Navy Thorium Charge M Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Dissonic Encoding Platform Gravitational Capacitor Dissolution Sequencer Power Core Multiplier Nanobot Injector Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Warp Drive Speed WS-610 Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Motion Prediction MR-703 Zainou 'Deadeye' Medium Hybrid Turret MH-805 Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-905 Zainou 'Gnome' Weapon Upgrades WU-1003 Basically this fit is pretty similar in stats of your Tengu but possibly could outperform and squeeze a few seconds from Tengu's time.
afkalt Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1145	Posted - 2015.05.01 13:44:26 - [23] - Quote Vulture is up there, but who is going to use one of those
Ion Kirst KIRSTONE ALLIANCE 123	Posted - 2015.05.01 13:57:13 - [24] - Quote tiddle, Proteus looks good too. -Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
Kirobacsi The Digital Undead 15	Posted - 2015.05.01 14:27:45 - [25] - Quote Mach fitted with warp speed rigs is the best
GordonO Evil Guinea Pigs 111	Posted - 2015.05.04 20:22:45 - [26] - Quote Kirobacsi wrote: Mach fitted with warp speed rigs is the best This, you not going to beat a mach at blitzing low level missions. With 800mm ac's everything is in range as you can kill stuff out to over 60km. warp in, if no gates align out, shoot only what you need to and warp out. Fit a t2 small tractor so you can grab the mission loot if it is needed and start aligning out. Split your guns so you don't waste cycles, I go 2, 2 3. EVGP Is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=412227
Marchet Aggregator School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.05.04 20:51:06 - [27] - Quote GordonO wrote: Kirobacsi wrote: Mach fitted with warp speed rigs is the best This, you not going to beat a mach at blitzing low level missions. With 800mm ac's everything is in range as you can kill stuff out to over 60km. warp in, if no gates align out, shoot only what you need to and warp out. Fit a t2 small tractor so you can grab the mission loot if it is needed and start aligning out. Split your guns so you don't waste cycles, I go 2, 2 3. A lot of time has passed since I runned L3s but do they allow BSes to use the gates (if he missions has gates)?
elitatwo Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team 659	Posted - 2015.05.04 22:24:07 - [28] - Quote Leviathan, hands down Tired of low and nullsec? Join Eve Minions and experience the beauty of wormholes!
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 15814	Posted - 2015.05.05 03:36:29 - [29] - Quote Marchet Aggregator wrote: GordonO wrote: Kirobacsi wrote: Mach fitted with warp speed rigs is the best This, you not going to beat a mach at blitzing low level missions. With 800mm ac's everything is in range as you can kill stuff out to over 60km. warp in, if no gates align out, shoot only what you need to and warp out. Fit a t2 small tractor so you can grab the mission loot if it is needed and start aligning out. Split your guns so you don't waste cycles, I go 2, 2 3. A lot of time has passed since I runned L3s but do they allow BSes to use the gates (if he missions has gates)? Yes they allow battleships. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Darling Hassasin Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2015.05.05 08:51:23 - [30] - Quote With the respective skill at 5 the t3 Destroyers are very efficient at blitzing lvl3s at a fraction of the price and easily used in low sec areas to provide similar LP rewards to lvl 4 missions



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