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Fermin Mascagranzas Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing 13	Posted - 2015.04.30 11:48:51 - [1] - Quote As a pretty much hunted down explorer myself, I-¦m pretending to give a try to explorer-¦s hunting :D I have made my mind to fly a rocket launcher manticore. I know a stealth bomber is not the best for killing frigates, and I will waste the role bonus for torpedoes, but it is a cheap ship with a rapid training capable of covops cloaking and instalocks after decloaking, wich is essential for catching seasoned explorers. I have watched videos and guides and im finishing my training, but I still have one doubt. Considering 3 rocket launcher II loaded with Tech II scourge rockets, will I be able to blow up an Astero ( exploration fitted ) before its drones kill my Manticore? Would it be better to shoot down the drones first, or should I just focus on the Astero? Apart from one shield extender in Mid, should i go for shiled rigs or damage rigs? Im asking becasue half of the explo ships I see are Asteros, and thanks to its 5 light drone it is the only explo frigate capable of some fighting back. Thanks for your comments
Solomar Espersei Quality Assurance 572	Posted - 2015.04.30 12:26:33 - [2] - Quote I prefer the Nemesis as I think its Thermal damage is generally better than the Kinetic on the Manti, if memory serves, it may have a bit more EHP. It's not a bad idea to have a couple of two or three different versions of your SB as you're out solo hunting with it and keep a mobile depot to swap from Torps to Rockets + AC. You may find that when you swap to Venture-killing mode (where you put 2 scrams on it) or anti-frigate duty (2X 200mm Acs + 2 Rockets) that you'll squeeze out more DPS by going with a gyro rather than a BCS. Those 5 drones will be a nightmare for you if they're T2 and even if you try to blap them before switching to the Astero (which I would certainly try to do), he may get you. SBs are made of paper and if the explorer is simply baiting you, you'll likely go BOOM. Do a bit of KB research before you engage and realize that even the seemingly innocent looking Heron or Helios can be fit to put up a surprising fight at times. Happy hunting. Quality Assurance
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 296	Posted - 2015.04.30 14:48:05 - [3] - Quote Yes, because a lot of Astero pilots have limited PvP experience and will just try to run. If he targets back quickly and let's loose drones then go ahead and bail.
Rovinia Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE 368	Posted - 2015.04.30 15:52:16 - [4] - Quote Perhaps you should consider using a Stratios for this. It's a bit more expensive, but i think it's a perfect match for what you plan to do. It's bonus for Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength will help you to probe these Ships / Sites more easely and faster. Additionaly, its a very solide combat ship, so you can also go for more expensive / better armed targets in Combat Signatures / Anos if you can't find someone doing exploration sites. Or, if there is absolutly nothing interresting arround, just do the exploration-sites yourself, it has the corresponding bonuses for that too.
Quattras Peione SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart. 84	Posted - 2015.05.01 01:55:02 - [5] - Quote Astero hunting in a rocket-fit Manti is a risky proposition. That said, I have had moderate success and a helluva lot of fun doing precisely that. Best to practice against smaller game first. You find a lot of newbies running data/relic sites in covops ships, and these will fall FAR more quickly. This will allow you to practice getting into optimal pouncing position before you decloak and strike. It's true that the Pantycore is technically not the best bomber and definitely not the best frigate hunter. I like it because it's sexy; you'll spend a lot more time looking at your ship than actually engaging targets.
RavenPaine RaVeN Alliance 997	Posted - 2015.05.01 02:31:17 - [6] - Quote Your wtf moment will come the second he tackles you back... But 99% of explorers won't fit tackle, so you can dictate whatever you want. Fit wisely, Fly accordingly. Duel prop for gtfo?
Dato Koppla Konvict Cartel The Asylum. 808	Posted - 2015.05.01 03:06:49 - [7] - Quote RavenPaine wrote: Your wtf moment will come the second he tackles you back... But 99% of explorers won't fit tackle, so you can dictate whatever you want. Fit wisely, Fly accordingly. Duel prop for gtfo? I would go for just plain AB, it's unlikely that they are carrying a point in the first place, but if they do it's more likely a scram than a long point so an AB would be much more useful in that scenario.
Fermin Mascagranzas Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing 13	Posted - 2015.05.01 06:46:33 - [8] - Quote Thanks a lot for your advices.
Apex Bex Boundless Exploration 27	Posted - 2015.05.01 07:00:40 - [9] - Quote It's not a short train, but it's the best way, by far. The **** Virus.
snake03 17	Posted - 2015.05.01 07:26:45 - [10] - Quote Apex Bex wrote: It's not a short train, but it's the best way, by far. The Dck Virus. I'll leave this right here. https://zkillboard.com/kill/44670562/ Anyway, an astero et al can tank it long enough to warp off. I'm just a modern day caveman in search of a bigger club.*

Apex Bex Boundless Exploration 27	Posted - 2015.05.01 08:49:35 - [11] - Quote snake03 wrote: Apex Bex wrote: It's not a short train, but it's the best way, by far. The D*ck Virus. I'll leave this right here. https://zkillboard.com/kill/44670562/ Anyway, an astero et al can tank it long enough to warp off. Nope Nope Nope
ADVAC Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.05.01 10:13:44 - [12] - Quote Fermin Mascagranzas wrote: As a pretty much hunted down explorer myself, I-¦m pretending to give a try to explorer-¦s hunting :D I have made my mind to fly a rocket launcher manticore. I know a stealth bomber is not the best for killing frigates, and I will waste the role bonus for torpedoes, but it is a cheap ship with a rapid training capable of covops cloaking and instalocks after decloaking, wich is essential for catching seasoned explorers. I have watched videos and guides and im finishing my training, but I still have one doubt. Considering 3 rocket launcher II loaded with Tech II scourge rockets, will I be able to blow up an Astero ( exploration fitted ) before its drones kill my Manticore? Would it be better to shoot down the drones first, or should I just focus on the Astero? Apart from one shield extender in Mid, should i go for shiled rigs or damage rigs? Im asking becasue half of the explo ships I see are Asteros, and thanks to its 5 light drone it is the only explo frigate capable of some fighting back. Thanks for your comments Missile and rocket launchers don't have good enough RoF to kill drones.
Darling Hassasin Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2015.05.06 14:21:15 - [13] - Quote ADVAC wrote: Fermin Mascagranzas wrote: As a pretty much hunted down explorer myself, I-¦m pretending to give a try to explorer-¦s hunting :D I have made my mind to fly a rocket launcher manticore. I know a stealth bomber is not the best for killing frigates, and I will waste the role bonus for torpedoes, but it is a cheap ship with a rapid training capable of covops cloaking and instalocks after decloaking, wich is essential for catching seasoned explorers. I have watched videos and guides and im finishing my training, but I still have one doubt. Considering 3 rocket launcher II loaded with Tech II scourge rockets, will I be able to blow up an Astero ( exploration fitted ) before its drones kill my Manticore? Would it be better to shoot down the drones first, or should I just focus on the Astero? Apart from one shield extender in Mid, should i go for shiled rigs or damage rigs? Im asking becasue half of the explo ships I see are Asteros, and thanks to its 5 light drone it is the only explo frigate capable of some fighting back. Thanks for your comments Missile and rocket launchers don't have good enough RoF to kill drones. I am mystified by this cryptic comment... I can maybe buy "not good enough alpha" as a nod to the ability of the enemy to scoop them but not enough rof???? DPS kills stuff rof is a variable of that that has not importance when taken independently
Arla Sarain 425	Posted - 2015.05.06 15:29:05 - [14] - Quote Wow, explorers really get their asses handed to them. If only those odd combat bonuses were worth something. But we can't have a cloaky deal damage, can we?
Damnskippy Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel 39	Posted - 2015.05.07 00:23:19 - [15] - Quote Apex Bex wrote: snake03 wrote: Apex Bex wrote: It's not a short train, but it's the best way, by far. The D*ck Virus. I'll leave this right here. https://zkillboard.com/kill/44670562/ Anyway, an astero et al can tank it long enough to warp off. Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope I can keep going...? I liked the video and got a laugh out of it. Strangely I'm tempted to go try this...
Iyokus Patrouette Sudden Buggery Prolapse. 452	Posted - 2015.05.07 04:23:57 - [16] - Quote Arla Sarain wrote: Wow, explorers really get their asses handed to them. If only those odd combat bonuses were worth something. But we can't have a cloaky deal damage, can we? cloaky proteus can deal damage. ---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----


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