CCP employees are allowed normal accounts on which they cannot use their super dev powers to do anything under. They also cannot let people know they are devs so they're kinda like superman.

with all these restrictions, why would they even play on a normal account?

with all these restrictions, why would they even play on a normal account?

And as long as they don't (ab)use any "insider" powers or knowledge to their advantage.

They shouldn't even be able to see the insider window on their normal accounts since they would have the same permissions as everyone else and the insider and its contents are shown based on those permissions.

I heard a rumour that some of them do actually PVP. I don't see why they wouldn't be allowed to PVP. If no one knows who they are, why not let them PVP as much as they like?

Anyone else in here besides Akita T and Nova Fox remember the T20 thing?

CCP employees are allowed normal accounts on which they cannot use their super dev powers to do anything under. They also cannot let people know they are devs so they're kinda like superman.

Anyone else in here besides Akita T and Nova Fox remember the T20 thing?

Hi,

I'm quite interested to know if CCPs policy on their employees playing eve is available somewhere or if anyone knows how they handle that ?

For example are CCP employees allowed to let people know they work for CCP, are they allowed to join player corporations, if an employee has an already active character are they allowed to continue playing on that character etc.

I'm interested purely for personal reasons, it is not that I know of a CCP employee ingame or am trying to put out dirt on someone, just interested on how its handled, if anyone knows.

Thank you !

Anyone else in here besides Akita T and Nova Fox remember the T20 thing?

RMR - I remember that - Boy do I remember that -

The dawn of Achuras was upon us.

Hi,

I'm quite interested to know if CCPs policy on their employees playing eve is available somewhere or if anyone knows how they handle that ?

For example are CCP employees allowed to let people know they work for CCP, are they allowed to join player corporations, if an employee has an already active character are they allowed to continue playing on that character etc.

I'm interested purely for personal reasons, it is not that I know of a CCP employee ingame or am trying to put out dirt on someone, just interested on how its handled, if anyone knows.

Thank you !

should a character become outed as a CCP employee character either the character is deleted permanently or copied to a new characterID, that allows you to continue playing - but any and all social ties that character had have to be severed..

Raid'En is obvious dev!
Sever him, sever him!

PS: CCP aren't allowed to grief and scam? ... Really?

i do think the "char death upon outing" is a little harsh. as long as you're behaving i don't think it is a big deal if people know your personal accounts.

unless of course it becomes a problem of harassment for the dev (ie everyone convo'ing them).

Simple, they have the right to use your credit card to pay their own sub, they can pick your isk to buy ships you will never be able to use, when they fart dozens of plex appear in their hangar and they can instantly kill you just by eye balling you.

You should fear those, they're nastier than Goons but not strong has PL, they're now training supercaps and you should know also when you take 45D to train stuff they take 45mn afk cofee shop and fresh beer.

It is a bit harsh, but if a CCP employee maintained a steady name and identity, everyone would message them with 'Can I have free stuff'. No only that, but joining a corp would be a huge conflict of interest.

How often do YOU tell people in EVE what company you work for in RL ?

Anyone else in here besides Akita T and Nova Fox remember the T20 thing?

In case they get identified, they used to have two choices : stop playing that account for as long as they remain a CCP employee... or "become randomized" (think witness protection program for EVE characters - broken contact with all old friends, new name, fake new corp history, new face too for good measure).
Not sure if the second choice is still offered nowadays.

Also, think of the other members of that corp, if we assume that a known dev character will be followed to the end of the universe with war declarations.

Is it still true that most devs who play are pirates?

Do you discuss playing between you?

Do you know who each others characters are?

Yub.

Are CCP employees allowed to "out" their in game alt identities to each other?
Are they allowed to form corporations or alliances entirely or mostly consisting of CCP employees?
Are there any rules governing the level of interaction between CCP alt accounts with each other?

Just out of pure curiosity.

I assume that all employees that play with non-CCP accounts are required to inform Internal Affairs about this.

Could we have some figures (channeling CCP Diagoras) on how many of the CCP employees that play EvE Online with their own private account on a regular basis?

Is it still true that most devs who play are pirates?

Do you discuss playing between you?

Do you know who each others characters are?

no griefing ok, but no scamming?

Are you... quite certain internal affairs does not hate you?

Yub.

"Eve Balling"

Is that like a power word?

Becuase someone who can just point you and say die has a distinct advantage in combat.

this would be a cool feature/character service for a few hundred million isk

Already there are too few ways to take revenge or hold people accountable for their actions. This would be a terrible feature.

Raid'En is obvious dev!
Sever him, sever him!

PS: CCP aren't allowed to grief and scam? ... Really?

CCP is against scams and scam artists of this nature in-general, but so long as people abide by the EULA, funds or assets acquired through what one would term fraud and/or embezzlement in RL are within the context of the game at-large, and thus not actionable by CCP.

Firstly a Dev should know the game inside and out, this has to be an advantage even if they are playing a normal account.

So simply being a Dev is an advantage surly

Anyone else in here besides Akita T and Nova Fox remember the T20 thing?

Raid'En is obvious dev!
Sever him, sever him!

PS: CCP aren't allowed to grief and scam? ... Really?

Isn't voice chat a problem - at least for the more prominent Devs? Many corps require voice chat at least for corp events or PvP. I guess most people would knwo who they talk to over voice if it would have been e.g. Soundwave or StevieSG.

Voice comms tend to distort the natural voice of the person speaking, so Soundwave or Stevie would sound substantially different over Teamspeak or Eve-voice compared to in real life or on the videos of Fanfest or the Alliance Tournament.

Voice comms tend to distort the natural voice of the person speaking, so Soundwave or Stevie would sound substantially different over Teamspeak or Eve-voice compared to in real life or on the videos of Fanfest or the Alliance Tournament.

I'm not comfortable with giving out figures of how many CCP employee accounts there are out there.

The rules covering CCP Employees are not public as far as I know, but the gist of the rules has already been posted above.

As has been stated in this thread, CCP employees are allowed to play EVE, using normal accounts. In addition to be required to follow the EULA, the TOS and other rules to the letter, any 'gray' area gameplay by CCP employees is forbidden. Griefing, scamming, exploiting or the abuse of knowledge of coming game changes (market speculation) absolutely fall under that.

Furthermore, it is forbidden to reveal that we work for CCP when playing on our normal characters and should a character become outed as a CCP employee character either the character is deleted permanently or copied to a new characterID, that allows you to continue playing - but any and all social ties that character had have to be severed. The actions depend on how the character was outed.

And needless to say, Internal Affairs watch all CCP employee accounts very carefully.

I must say that I find it funny really.

Yes, CCP employees are not allowed to tell anyone about coming game changes that lead to market speculation but; isn't it funny that the market orders for items that become very powerful post patch always increase dramatically the week before the patch is released?

I'm surprised CCP staff are allowed to play at all.

Having access to insider knowledge, whether it is abused or not, is a huge integrity issue. Perception is reality.

Human nature being what it is, I've no doubt that line has been crossed in the past.

Hi,

I'm quite interested to know if CCPs policy on their employees playing eve is available somewhere or if anyone knows how they handle that ?

For example are CCP employees allowed to let people know they work for CCP, are they allowed to join player corporations, if an employee has an already active character are they allowed to continue playing on that character etc.

I'm interested purely for personal reasons, it is not that I know of a CCP employee ingame or am trying to put out dirt on someone, just interested on how its handled, if anyone knows.

Thank you !

I'm surprised CCP staff are allowed to play at all.

Having access to insider knowledge, whether it is abused or not, is a huge integrity issue. Perception is reality.

Human nature being what it is, I've no doubt that line has been crossed in the past.

So, how would CCP IA figure out that you're playing a character? Even if you got a friend request for a trial from a neighbor, and then subscribed with plex, and stayed on with plex, how would they figure it out? Is it because you guys are using the dev console? Is it because you guys use the Kunami Code?

I'm surprised CCP staff are allowed to play at all.

Having access to insider knowledge, whether it is abused or not, is a huge integrity issue. Perception is reality.

Human nature being what it is, I've no doubt that line has been crossed in the past.

can we get a graph about how many eve dev alts troll on forum?

I wouldn't want to play a game where the development staff was disconnected from their own product, that just creates balance changes that make no sense what so ever and a QA department and feedback can only give you so and so much.

I also reckon a lot of the staff at CCP are there be cause of their love of the game, that's one of the things I like about them is that they seem to recruit people that actually care about the game and know what they are doing (excluding the incarna expansion but that has gotten enough coverage already)


Thank you all for the responses ! and thank you Xhagen for the very informative replies !

If scamming is legitimate in the game why are CCP characters not allowed to partake in such a "legit" game mechanic? Surely if you ban yourselves from doing then it should be the same for everyone else?

It's not like we know you are dev character or not so it can't be a public image thing, why so? Do you think it's one of the lowest form of gameplay?