Dynamist
Antipodean inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.07 13:54:00 -
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Liviy wrote a pretty accurate summary of events. Even though I left with a number of others to form our new corp, actually changing sides in the war didnt bother me. IMO, we were borderline exploited by ASCN, and once the decision to leave was taken, the next alliance we joined was completely irrelevant. I personally left because of the way the decision was handled, and the fact that most of my friends were leaving and forming a corp that sounded a lot more fun. I bore no ill-will towards ANZA.
 Originally by: Sharmina
You sir, seem to be as misinformed as so many others in here. ANZA left ASCN at short notice because we could not, in any shape or form, sustain the war any longer, we had no ships (we were supplying our members with T1 frigs and cruisers and as many mods as possible free), we had no offices left in ASCN space because our offices were in GQ2 and H8. We were trying to get access to better ships and mods but there was nothing at the frontline or even close, our members were out of ISK, the corp was out of ISK, if the ISK/equipment situation were different we would still be on the frontlines.
We have regrouped in Empire to rebuild, we are out of the war completely, we do not fight for ASCN and we do not fight for BOB. Some members were very upset because we left ASCN without asking them first, yes this was probably a mistake, but it was not to screw them over. These members attempted a coup de gras to hijack the corp and make all the leaders (all the leaders were involved in the decision) stand down (except one, who was their friend and is now CEO of their corp - a bit of irony there ), this was denied and as a result those members have left ANZA and formed their own corp.
ANZA is now going ahead with it's long term goals of forming an Australian and New Zealand Alliance so that like minded Aussies and Kiwis can play together and yet still retain their own corps.
I'm sorry Sharmina, but you just lost most of the considerable respect I had for you. I was present at the discussions that you refer to as a "coup", and it was done openly. It was even discussed with one of the ANZA directors who wasn't leaving and he agreed that it was a workable idea to save the corp. Sadly, other directors felt threatened by the request to have them step down and hold an AGM to discuss the future of the corp. I can understand their feelings. Losing their directorship after so much work was a harsh price for the mistake they made. However, they werent willing to pay that price in order to save the corp. So, a large number of us left to form a new corp. We tried to leave peacefully, and maintained friendly relations with our mates back in ANZA. We were a bit saddened by the way the leadership spun our leaving into a "betrayal", but decided to leave well enough alone. However, by attacking us in public like this Sharmina, you force us to respond to the half-truths that have been floating around.
It was not a "coup". Perhaps you could call it an "ultimatum", but even thats a bit strong. After our last attempt at compromise was shot down, the only form of democracy open to us was voting with our feet, and that's what we did.
Personally, I wish ANZA and the new SCA alliance all the best.
Dynamist
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