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Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.11 07:49:56 -
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Hi. Ive come back to eve from a long break and found out that there is this thing called mobile tracking unit and its like a tractor beam on steroids. So after trying it out I cant really say that the time it takes after every npc is dead and every wreck is looted is more worthwhile than flying to do the next mission. Mind you I'm flying a dominx and with my average skills I get about 650 dps(MJD fit).
So what do you guys think? |
Tam Arai
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.11 08:19:17 -
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Arrive in site drop mtu kill everything scoop mtu leave
Don't drop mtu after killing everything, that's wasting time |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.11 08:22:33 -
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Tam Arai wrote:Arrive in site drop mtu kill everything scoop mtu leave
Don't drop mtu after killing everything, that's wasting time I do drop MTU on arrival, yet it never finished looting long after everyone is dead. So it like
MTU start------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------MTU finished
NPCs pew pew-------------------------------------NPCs dead <---------------boring window----------> |
Spud Lazair
Hedion University Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2015.05.11 09:34:14 -
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Were the wrecks it never looted within its range?
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue"
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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2015.05.11 09:42:47 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:Tam Arai wrote:Arrive in site drop mtu kill everything scoop mtu leave
Don't drop mtu after killing everything, that's wasting time I do drop MTU on arrival, yet it never finished looting long after everyone is dead. So it like MTU start------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------MTU finished NPCs pew pew-------------------------------------NPCs dead
So what? I see that you seemingly don't want to wait till the MTU is finished because you're in a hurry to start other sites. Simply recover the MTU (and its content) when your done. This only gives you half the loot compared to waiting out the MTU. But half the loot is definitely better than no loot at ll without the MTU. |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.05.11 09:54:27 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:
So what? I see that you seemingly don't want to wait till the MTU is finished because you're in a hurry to start other sites. Simply recover the MTU (and its content) when your done. This only gives you half the loot compared to waiting out the MTU. But half the loot is definitely better than no loot at ll without the MTU.
I guess this is the most optimal way |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
150
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Posted - 2015.05.11 11:12:26 -
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drop the mtu, bm the location come back 1h later with a noctis with 8 salvagers and thats a fast way
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Sinclair Spectrum ZX
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.05.11 11:47:06 -
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I usually have multiple MTUs. Run a few missions and come back for them all later. |
erg cz
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2015.05.11 14:55:19 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote: This only gives you half the loot compared to waiting out the MTU. But half the loot is definitely better than no loot at ll without the MTU.
This. If you are in a calm area you can drop MTU in each pocket, make a bookmark and use some extra ship to pick them all up on the end of the game time.
I also use Dominix and in some missions the gate is far away to the MTU drop point. So it is easier and quicker to just book mark it and come for it later, after mission is done. Though I must admit I lost few of them that way cause I forgot them ;)
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
303
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Posted - 2015.05.11 15:02:19 -
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I think it's personal preference on whether you enjoy looting/salvaging. Most players who are focused on maximizing isk/hour seem to ignore it after all the nerfs except for particular missions or high value battleships because they concentrate on the LP.
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Kaivar Lancer
Little Rat Company
601
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Posted - 2015.06.02 11:15:19 -
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Loot value is crap. Only drop a MTU and salvage if you want to do it for roleplaying. Otherwise, concentrate on finishing your missions optimally and moving on. |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
310
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Posted - 2015.06.02 14:37:01 -
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To loot / salvage that is the question. And the answer is it depends on you and what you want.
Max ISK and LP per hour will always be had by blitzing missions. This site has excellent information on the requirements to blitz every mission if it is possible. Besides it is just a great tool for all mission runners. http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=missionreports
Loot / salvage can add a significant amount to your mission income (doubling it in many cases) but it is a personal decision if that extra is worth the time and efforts.
If you are going to use the MTU I agree with having multiple of them, drop one in every pocket and book mark it. After your mission session is over change into whatever ship you want to use (noctis is best with cargo hold expanders you will need them) and fly back to the bookmarks scoop MTU and salvage wrecks.
If you have multiple accounts then training one for max salvage skills is another option. One progress through the missions and the mission while the salvage alt is clearing out one pocket behind, or one mission behind. Many mission runners I know use the time to salvage the pocket as a cap / shield / armor re-charge / repair break. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2015.06.02 14:54:27 -
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It's free money. Drop MTU and launch salvage drones in a pocket. When the pocket/mission is finished, pull in the MTU and drones and leave. There's no need to hang around and loot/salvage every single wreck.
There's also a looting/salvaging service you can use, but I can't remember their name.
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
322
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:59:17 -
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stoicfaux wrote:There's also a looting/salvaging service you can use, but I can't remember their name. Pro Synergy?
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
625
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Posted - 2015.06.02 17:11:15 -
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But if you leave your MTU all by itself to salvage, and I am in system, and I am bored; I will blow it up. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1248
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Posted - 2015.06.02 17:16:40 -
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IMHO the MTU is best used on a Marauder. Otherwise its just more efficient to come with a properly fit noctis and scoop up the whole mission in minutes. Marauders dont generally need drones so they can salvage drone salvage and MTU loot at the same tme, and then help at the end for the last few wrecks. Regular BSs dont get a tractor bonus so it makes salvaging and looting in them a pain.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1155
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Posted - 2015.06.02 23:02:23 -
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best part about MTU is that it automatically loots everything inside 2500m, meaning I don't have to open and close every damn wreck.
that said most loot is garbage and I tend to collect very little. get bored of sitting around to loot a metal scrap, or mod worth nothing.
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
584
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Posted - 2015.06.03 00:51:08 -
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If you collect tags to get stuff from lp store, then looting is worthwhile. Use mtu, and either wait, or bookmark and come back.
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Traejun DiSanctis
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
148
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Posted - 2015.06.03 05:32:12 -
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Sinclair Spectrum ZX wrote:I usually have multiple MTUs. Run a few missions and come back for them all later.
This is the way to do it. Same strategy applies for ratting in null.
As for the general question, certain rats are worth looting. Some aren't. Guristas and Angel Cartel - worth it. Serpentis and Sansha - hit and miss (mostly miss). Blood Raiders - never. |
Amanda Chan
Error 404 Pod Not Found
10
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Posted - 2015.06.03 06:45:55 -
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Vito Antonio wrote:Hi. Ive come back to eve from a long break and found out that there is this thing called mobile tracking unit and its like a tractor beam on steroids. So after trying it out I cant really say that the time it takes after every npc is dead and every wreck is looted is more worthwhile than flying to do the next mission. Mind you I'm flying a dominx and with my average skills I get about 650 dps(MJD fit).
So what do you guys think?
That's the reason why the MTU is working very slowly. It tractors(the cheap version anyways) at 1k m/s. So say you Jump 100 km in a direction, rats are now between 60-90 km(for easy math) and you start popping them. That's 1-1.5 minute for EACH wreck it needs to bring to itself.
As others have said, just bookmark it/time stamp it and come back later(within 2 hours) to salvage/loot. |
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Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
207
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Posted - 2015.06.04 18:05:54 -
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Anyway to get salvage drones to automatically salvage wrecks without having to target each wreck and send them? |
Amanda Chan
Error 404 Pod Not Found
10
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Posted - 2015.06.04 19:34:14 -
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Salicaz wrote:Anyway to get salvage drones to automatically salvage wrecks without having to target each wreck and send them? Yes, don't target. Wreck and tell them to salvage. I.e do it before you target a wreck or target your mtu/something you can lock that's not a wreck withing your control range. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
401
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Posted - 2015.06.04 22:31:14 -
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Bookmark each room, abandon wrecks, contract BM's to Pro Synergy.
They pay out either 40 or 60% of loot/salvage value. If you are clearing non faction missions this is a good way to pick up some extra ISK for little effort, without worrying about looting/salvaging/managing MTU's.
First week I used them I ran maybe 15 missions, all non-faction (so less valuable loot because no tags), and my wallet got a 45M ISK bump at the end of the week from the wrecks I contracted to them.
Two caveats - most people decline empire faction missions because they nuke your standards but if you do run them you need to loot because much of the ISK comes from tag drops as empire NPCs don't have bounties. Several missions throw out 20-40M ISK in tags alone.
Also if you are running a mission like Dread Pirate Scarlet or the Damsel, the first which always drops an 8M implant and the second which potentially drops a 60-70M implant; it is advisable to grab that. |
Jonni Favorite
Red Slice Enterprise
184
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Posted - 2015.06.11 14:47:02 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:best part about MTU is that it automatically loots everything inside 2500m, meaning I don't have to open and close every damn wreck.
that said most loot is garbage and I tend to collect very little. get bored of sitting around to loot a metal scrap, or mod worth nothing.
This sounds interesting. So I could bring one in my Noctis, drop salvage drones and MTU and all I have to do is pull the wrecks? Been away 2 years, the MTU is new to me.
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Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1629
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Posted - 2015.06.11 15:53:03 -
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Jonni Favorite wrote:Chainsaw Plankton wrote:best part about MTU is that it automatically loots everything inside 2500m, meaning I don't have to open and close every damn wreck.
that said most loot is garbage and I tend to collect very little. get bored of sitting around to loot a metal scrap, or mod worth nothing. This sounds interesting. So I could bring one in my Noctis, drop salvage drones and MTU and all I have to do is pull the wrecks? Been away 2 years, the MTU is new to me.
You could use the Noctis to speed up the wreck-pulling if you wanted to (the MTU tractors them in one at a time). If you're bringing a Noctis, you can also salvage much faster than the drones can.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1192
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Posted - 2015.06.11 16:16:14 -
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Jonni Favorite wrote:Chainsaw Plankton wrote:best part about MTU is that it automatically loots everything inside 2500m, meaning I don't have to open and close every damn wreck.
that said most loot is garbage and I tend to collect very little. get bored of sitting around to loot a metal scrap, or mod worth nothing. This sounds interesting. So I could bring one in my Noctis, drop salvage drones and MTU and all I have to do is pull the wrecks? Been away 2 years, the MTU is new to me.
exactly, plus the MTU will pull one extra wreck. Usually I start with the wrecks farthest away in a noctis, and run a 5/3 split of tractors/salvagers, as with skills and salvage rigs the salvagers work much faster than the tractors. the MTU and salvage drones should probably about even each other out.
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Jonni Favorite
Red Slice Enterprise
185
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Posted - 2015.06.11 16:29:09 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
exactly, plus the MTU will pull one extra wreck. Usually I start with the wrecks farthest away in a noctis, and run a 5/3 split of tractors/salvagers, as with skills and salvage rigs the salvagers work much faster than the tractors. the MTU and salvage drones should probably about even each other out.
Dersen Lowery wrote:
You could use the Noctis to speed up the wreck-pulling if you wanted to (the MTU tractors them in one at a time). If you're bringing a Noctis, you can also salvage much faster than the drones can.
I dual box Epic arcs so for me it's more efficient to just pull the wrecks while the drones do the salvaging and I can work on the next missions with my main while the salvage op is in progress. Any extra bit of automation helps this process.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1192
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Posted - 2015.06.11 17:54:54 -
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right when dual boxing it changes a little, a noctis will easily tractor and salvage faster than a combat ship can generate wrecks. Using drones slows it down and gives you one less thing to do :p
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
325
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Posted - 2015.06.16 23:14:52 -
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I bring a MTU along when doing lvl 4 missions in my Marauder. I deploy it along with bastion and then salvage while shooting things up. |
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