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Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.11.10 08:50:00 -
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And why did CCP not just remove bookmarks near the gates?
Firstly, if bookmarks where removed within 15 km of the gate people would just make 20-30-100 km instant bookmarks.
Secondly and more importantly, the MAJOR turn off for new players are not gate camping pirates. It is the long travel times. Do you really in your right mind think CCP would enhance the single one aspect of the game that could turn the growing intake of new players to a negative?
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.10 08:51:00 -
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TBH i'm not thinking its to line pockets.. Its just that there are not many players who are skilled enough to be killers.. I go to high sec on occasion to try to get people to come out to low sec and rat or mine or run some plexs and I'm not like lofty and will turn on them as soon as concord turns its back.. Their responce? Dude low sec is too dangerous!! And I agree.. If eveyone in eve had balls and was aggressive then all this kali stuff would never happen.. But the sad fact is that us forum posters are the upper class of eve.. We not only are aggressive in the game we pounce on forum pvp as well so we get a rather biased view of things here.. These changes effect a minority of players but as they are vocal it seems that eve will turn to dust with every change if you only read the forum.. Now take a minute and look at replies to threads.. Even the threads with uber views only represent a vanishingly small segement of the playerbase.. And to me only about 5% of the .05% of them actually have anything constuctive to say.. and that includes me too on occasion..  Gloom 'n Doom ftl..
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Athena Starfire
Aw..poor,poor prirates and campers will have to find some other way of wrecking people enjoyment of the game..WAAA!!!
Good Job! CCP..Keep it coming..
only for the record ... if "warp to 0m" makes it on TQ ...
i'll gonna train for a BS (people who know me, know that i only fly interceptors - and hate flying anything bigger than a frig)
i'll put a ****load of smartbombs on it ... and gonna kill all those frigs and haulers and shuttles and pods that are warping on 0m to a gate in low-sec. not for the loot - just to make a statement.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nerf Caldari
I mean, this will, at the very least, destroy trading as a viable profession. What's the point, if there's no risk? Hell, what's the point of the whole game if there's no risk?
You're confused. The possibility of an inty or headshotting BS on the other side of the gate is risk. Getting chased by small fast ships from system to system is fun.
Getting killed by anyone with a webber and a gun who happens to be on a gate at the same time as me because it takes 2 full minutes to get to the gate and nearly as long to align and warp to something else is stupid.
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Daelin Blackleaf
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nerf Caldari
You don't think a complete and total lack of danger around gates and stations in low sec and high sec is a problem?
In a word: No
You want to attack someone in middle of nowhere... shouldn't be too difficult.
You want to attack someone in town centre... you had better be clever about it.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 10/11/2006 11:03:38
Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 10/11/2006 11:02:40
Originally by: Crumplecorn
... nearly as long to align and warp to something else is stupid.
only pre-kali .. since with kali there will be a boost to inertia stabs that makes them imho overpowered your industrial needs only a few seconds to enter warp (yeah - you won't have cargoexpanders fitted, only inertia - but flying a ship that allmost handles like a frig and can carry 5k m¦ is imho a bit overpowered - without the need to train a few skills to lvl5 ... as nano'ed blockade runner can allready do this)
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran
And why did CCP not just remove bookmarks near the gates?
Firstly, if bookmarks where removed within 15 km of the gate people would just make 20-30-100 km instant bookmarks.
Secondly and more importantly, the MAJOR turn off for new players are not gate camping pirates. It is the long travel times. Do you really in your right mind think CCP would enhance the single one aspect of the game that could turn the growing intake of new players to a negative?
Travel time isn't effected tbh, only distance.
Think about it.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:19:00 -
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People, the gate has 2 sides. If you can't catch them in the 15km run-for-the-gate, wait for them at the other side. You could have a friend on entry side giving you intel on ventrilo "heads up, newbie on kestrel going your way!".
And anyway, a newbie with a correctly fited t1 frigate could make the run-for-the-gate in like 3 or 4 seconds flat. Can you target-lock-pawn that fast? |
Too Kind
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Too Kind on 10/11/2006 11:27:57
This thread should have been named: 'Screw to appeal players, who like to play this as a solo-game with chat channel, players who prefer to interact with npcs instead of other players'
This would help us to get rid of all whines that are related to this phenomenom: 'I just want to trade, mine, run my missions, but some other players never leave me alone and never just lets me do it how I like !' 
Getting rid of those guys would help a lot. Then we could get a true discussion about warp-to-0 and the pros and cons. (e.g. traveltime as a pro, other things as cons.) 
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Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:27:00 -
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Really I think there are too many "!" in this thread for CCP to take notice. If it really was/is/will be a problem, then post with your main, and not an alt.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
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Liklin
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Liklin on 10/11/2006 11:28:06
Originally by: Nerf Caldari
Really, this is absurd now. First, "We can't control when you log off and thereby circumvent a whole aspect of the game," then "Well, it's not like giving perfect instas, every time, to every single person in the game is going to have any affect on anything."
Bull****.
The other day, me and my CEO, who was hauling one bill of assets, nearly got killed by the gatecamp, and had to spend the next TWO HOURS getting out. Was it fun? Yes, it sure as hell was.
I mean, this will, at the very least, destroy trading as a viable profession. What's the point, if there's no risk? Hell, what's the point of the whole game if there's no risk?
Either way, I think that anything at all like this will seriously damage the game. I can deal with lag, as long as the game is good when I actually play it.
it's that last sentence that really *****s me up, hate to say it sister but the rest of Eve doesn't agree with you, none of the pvp'rs and none of the noobs, kinda just leaves you and a few other cheap gankers in a rather tiny minority 
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Roshan longshot
Really I think there are too many "!" in this thread for CCP to take notice. If it really was/is/will be a problem, then post with your main, and not an alt.
WTF has the "!" to do with anyting? Should I post with each main I have that is specialized in the topic I'm posting in? Thats a hellava lot of log ins and outs to just give you some meaningless satisfaction..
<--- What is to the left of this arrow is meaningless..
The stuff posted after this paragraph is what matters.. If it sounds like garbage its garbage no matter who posts it.. If it makes sense then again it matters not who posts it.. Read the friggin post and make a descision about if it is valid or not.. The name you see has no relevancy to the truth or lies that is posted.. 
Brains are standard issue to all humans.. USE IT!
And thats the truth..
[2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" |
Athena Starfire
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.10 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: Athena Starfire on 10/11/2006 12:17:56
Originally by: Too Kind
This thread should have been named: 'Screw to appeal players, who like to play this as a solo-game with chat channel, players who prefer to interact with npcs instead of other players'
This would help us to get rid of all whines that are related to this phenomenom: 'I just want to trade, mine, run my missions, but some other players never leave me alone and never just lets me do it how I like !'
Getting rid of those guys would help a lot. Then we could get a true discussion about warp-to-0 and the pros and cons. (e.g. traveltime as a pro, other things as cons.)
They say post with your main so they can annoy you in the game if they dont like your 'whining'
And tough cookies if you don't want me playing the game the way 'I' want to . I pay my money like everyone else. I say good on CCP for finally seeing that everyone isn't a "kill the other guy" type.
This game does not belong to just the 'PVP' Types. Surprize!!!!
If I want and DO 'I just want to trade, mine, run my missions, but some other players never leave me alone and never just lets me do it how I like !' ..I will darn well do it ..
THANK YOU CCP.. for helping us do it finally
(I don't believe that "bol-locks" is consider a profanity...)
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