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NightmareX
Lakagigar Absolute Defiance
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Posted - 2015.05.13 15:01:10 -
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Well, i already had trained all of my Battleship skills to level 5 back in 2008 (yes, i have been playing since 2004). I first started to use a Raven in late 2005 both for missions and PVP. Then i went to the Tempest in 2006 which by the way i did love at that time. I did use it for a long time before i gave the Megathron a go in late 2007 / early 2008.
After i started to use the Megathron, i was sold on it. And since then i have been a huge fan of the Megathron and i'm still a big fan of the Megathron hull. So i have been using the normal Megathron, Navy Megathron, Vindicator and the Kronos lately.
But the fact is that i'm very specialized in Battleships today. I feel more comfortable in a Battleship than i do with smaller ships. I know how to effectively use the Battleships i use 100% fully out and how to fit them correctly. Yes i usually don't fly Battleships alone, but they are TONS of fun in Battleship fleets.
I actually make videos of flying Battleships to. So you can watch my videos here.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2YSu0ugts
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-_61zfTE8
The 1st video from Tama i was using an Armageddon for the first time. So i had no idea on how it would go in that fight.
But the simple fact is that if you know what you are doing, Battleships can be extremely effective in PVP.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
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Posted - 2015.06.10 17:20:56 -
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Eridon Hermetz wrote:huehuehuehuehue !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Y4keqTV6w
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
606
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:04:36 -
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Gonna post again.
You will lose fights like this if you don't train for Battleships: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9rDDcT7nqY
That kind of fights is what i'm good and experienced at doing. So are you gonna be a whimp and not go into such fights just because someone can't figure out how to use Battleships like a pro and have to whine about it on the forums?
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
606
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Posted - 2015.06.12 08:03:52 -
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Videos are a very good evidence on how things works. The only reason you don't like to see the videos as evidences is because you know we can give tons after tons with video evidences that pretty much invalidates your arguments here.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
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Posted - 2015.06.13 03:59:38 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:More new players and even some older ones have accepted the fact that smaller ships have significant advantages over battleships. Ehm ok. Did you know that Dreads have 'significant advantages' over Cruisers, Battlecruisers and Battleships when it comes to shooting POS'es and stations?
The simple fact is that you can't say that smaller ships have advantages over biggers ships and then makes us believe that Battleships are worser than smaller ships at everything as there are 1 million ways you can use a Battleship that have way more advantages over smaller ships.
Facts 101.
Yes, i have something i can say about this as i have been playing EVE since early 2004, so i have experience in flying all types of ships up to Marauders / Battleships.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
607
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Posted - 2015.06.13 04:54:01 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:Yes and I'd wager most of you PVP successes don't include you piloting Battleships. Give everyone a moment to check out your killboard. See how many kills you earned in the mighty T1 battleship. We aren't swinging our killboard e-peens here. We are talking about how all ships have advantages over each others in many things.
Yes, Cruisers and Battlecruisers have some advantages over Battleships. But if you think Battleships doesn't have advantages over smaller ships, i'm sorry to say it but you have not understood EVE Online as far as i'm concerned.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
608
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Posted - 2015.06.13 05:21:22 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:I understand EVE Online very well. Well, i hardly believes that as you are a 2015 character while i'm a 2004 character. I do understand how the ships works in every possible scenarios while you barely knows anything about that.
Aza Ebanu wrote:Battleships are at the top of damage and tank, but the design of the game makes being in a larger hull susceptible to smaller ships. It is well documented in your own killboards that battleships stand little chance of surviving against smaller ships. What about the 2x Vagabonds and 1x Hurricane that attacked me in my Vindicator in Perimeter where all died in 1 minute to me?
Wasn't i supposed to die here as Cruisers are so much better than Battleships?
I had 80% armor left when they all was dead.
Battleships are fine if you have brain to use them correctly.
And this is not about what dies to what. It's all about what is the best ship for the job you are going to do. I can take my Vargur (that i currently have) and put it up against a 20 man Cruiser fleet. Who do you think will win here if they are just a normal t1 cruiser fleet roaming around that want to kill stuffs?
Aza Ebanu wrote:Why would people sing praises of battleships and they are their least flown ship? I fly Battleships 95% of the times i use a ships. I'm heavily specialized in using Battleships. And i have been that since 2008.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
608
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Posted - 2015.06.13 07:24:09 -
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Not only did i use a Raven as my first real PVP Battleship in 2005, but i was actually part of the first Dreadnought kill in EVE's history aswell that was my first kill in a Battleship as you can see here: https://beta.eve-kill.net/kill/-4640929/
Hell yeah, some advertisement of myself in a Battleship is needed sometimes .
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
608
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Posted - 2015.06.13 08:27:48 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:NightmareX wrote:Not only did i use a Raven as my first real PVP Battleship in 2005, but i was actually part of the first Dreadnought kill in EVE's history aswell that was my first kill in a Battleship as you can see here: https://beta.eve-kill.net/kill/-4640929/Hell yeah, some advertisement of myself in a Battleship is needed sometimes . All readers, take a really good look at the fit on that Moros. Then look at how many NightmareX was fleeted with. Next read this fit: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Moros You can make your on judgement of NightmareX's battleship skills. You're not even old enough in EVE to realize that the fit you are seeing is not what the Moros had fitted. That killmail is so old that the killmail have been bugged on killboards through the years. It's missing 60% of the modules it had fitted on the Moros because of that.
Not only that, but did you see any less peoples on the first Titan killmail for example?
Nope, because there was a butt load of peoples on the first Titan kill.
We wasn't that many against that Moros (we was the whole 12 peoples where 9 out of that was Battleships) considering that we was fighting the biggest and most expensive ship at that time. So i think you need to wake up a little here.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
608
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Posted - 2015.06.13 09:40:21 -
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And to make it even more funnier. I even was a part of the fight where we killed the most Motherships (yes they was called it that way back then) at the same time back in 2009 aswell. We killed 5 Motherships at the same time that time.
And the good thing here is that i even made a video from it .
Here is the video: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/NightmareX/EQI2-2MSKILLS.wmv
And here is the actual killmails: https://beta.eve-kill.net/character/1896934808/groupID/659/
Now, i didn't use a Battleship there, but a Vagabond. But the point here is that i actually have achieved quite alot through the years i have been doing PVP long time before you OP even started to play EVE. So i can back up myself with evidences on what i have been doing.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
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Posted - 2015.06.14 06:12:11 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:Let's face it. T1 battleships are not superior in any way with all the T2/T3 cruisers, battlecruisers, and frigates running around. Again, that's just your own opinion after the few years you have been playing. You don't have the experience enough yet to say if the Battleships are any sub-par to T2/T3 cruisers, battlecruisers, and frigates.
Battleships are superior in many ways over T2/T3 cruisers, battlecruisers, and frigates. It just depends on what you are going to do.
Aza Ebanu wrote:The saddest part: a blob of smaller ships easily overwhelms them. Now blobs of medium sized hulls are the most effective, as numerous killboards demonstrate. I invite all naysayers to just look at the killboards. How many people are getting kills with battleships, vs cruiser gangs? There is a reason for this. I can guarantee you that a fleet of 4 Megathrons is going to massacre a Cruiser fleet of 15 peoples if the Megathrons have fitted their ships for that type of fights.
Lets twist you argument a little. You say that a blob of smaller ships easily overwhelms a battleship?
What if you try to bring a single cruiser to a single battleship to see how that goes instead?
I'm sure you you know that you comparsion doesn't work, because if i decide to bring a blob of 15 Battleships and 5 Logistics, you need at least 60 cruisers to pose any danger to us. So you need 60 peoples while we need 20.
Tru 20 Battleships vs 20 Cruisers without any logistics on both sides. Then lets see who will win here. Yes, the Battleship fleet will massacre the Cruiser fleet.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
609
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Posted - 2015.06.14 06:18:55 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:How do you know? because I am not on video? because you think this is my only character? Everyone else's killboard says it all. Don't fly battleships. Your killboard says you have no experience in flying battleships while i do. So don't lie about that everyones killboard says it, because mine don't.
And with my experience in flying battleships all since 2005, i can pretty much say that you are wrong about battleships here.
You have got evidenced after evidences that we are right about Battleships. How many evidences do you need before you are happy?
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
610
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Posted - 2015.06.15 02:40:16 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:Battleships are designed to be lumbering targets, and can't tank all the damage they are susceptible to. Battleships are still great and superior to smaller ships in alot of different things. Smaller ships are also great and are superior to Battleships in many ways to. The problem is that you are only looking at what the smaller ships are good at over the Battleships while ignoring what the Battleships are good at over the smaller ships. You can't just look at it that way and then say that the smaller ships are better than Battleships and that's it. Because that's wrong.
Do you have problems to understand that?
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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NightmareX
Lakagigar
611
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Posted - 2015.06.16 10:47:58 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:1. least likely to survive a gatecamp 2. Take full damage in fleets which makes them useless concerning tank So in other words, carriers, dreads, super carriers and titans are also useless over Battleships then since they also takes full damage in fleet from smaller ships?
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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