Umm, actually it is not a suggestion. It is more of a question, what do you think about such fate. Will the game survive, becomes better, worse etc... May be wrong forum section, I just did not feel like posting this in Intergalactic summit or how it is called. Here I expect more interesting answers ;)

I agree, that using proxy can let some ppl get advantage, but how many multyboxers know how to use them?

Umm, actually it is not a suggestion. It is more of a question, what do you think about such fate. Will the game survive, becomes better, worse etc... May be wrong forum section, I just did not feel like posting this in Intergalactic summit or how it is called. Here I expect more interesting answers ;)

I agree, that using proxy can let some ppl get advantage, but how many multyboxers know how to use them?

Hi.

I wonder what will happen if CCP would prohibid to have more than one account from the same IP address? Will this slow down the game or contrary bring more PvP? You can't have alt.
1. Faction warfare becomes a serios business. If you lose system, you have difficulties with evacuation. Spying gets really hard, etc...
2. Wardec in high sec can become a serios disaster for small / not PvP corps.
3. Null chars have to live under pressure all the time, they can not use high sec alts to get a breath. Soverenity and security plays much bigger role.
4. Prices for minerals goes up. Logistic starts to be as important as PvP itself.

What do you think?

Just because you are computer illiterate doesn't mean the hardcore nerds that multibox the most are.

Me and everyone else that have 10+ accounts would find a workaround in less than 30 minutes I can assure you.

Hi.

I wonder what will happen if CCP would prohibid to have more than one account from the same IP address? Will this slow down the game or contrary bring more PvP? You can't have alt.
1. Faction warfare becomes a serios business. If you lose system, you have difficulties with evacuation. Spying gets really hard, etc...
2. Wardec in high sec can become a serios disaster for small / not PvP corps.
3. Null chars have to live under pressure all the time, they can not use high sec alts to get a breath. Soverenity and security plays much bigger role.
4. Prices for minerals goes up. Logistic starts to be as important as PvP itself.

What do you think?

Why do you post with your alt then? Set an example.

For being a hypocrite on the case and in general: A truly wonderful idea. You do realize that there are technologically apt people out there who can easily circumvent this, gaining an absolutely unfair advantage over other players.

Why do you post with your alt then? Set an example.

For being a hypocrite on the case and in general: A truly wonderful idea. You do realize that there are technologically apt people out there who can easily circumvent this, gaining an absolutely unfair advantage over other players.

Are you referring to the massive advantage people with multiple accounts already have? A smaller number of these people would be great for the game.

And, there is a difference between an alt on your main account and a true alt on a second account. I really shouldn't have to explain to you what that difference is.

I don't know what you mean. Everyone can have multiple accounts and use them. There are no restrictions or arbitrary limitations (unless you factor in crappy hardware or financial situations hovering around poverty level). After such a change, only those who put in a lot of effort (by comparison) can reap these massive advantages. Sounds really great to me.

Toons (chars on the same account) do not matter at all in this discussion, it's about Alt chars (chars on separate accounts). No, indeed you should not explain this to me. So please refrain from trying to lecture me.

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There would be less people with multiple accounts, regardless of all you tech savvy nerds saying this won't work. This would be good for the game, however not good for CCPs wallet.

And right, then why bring it up from atop your massive steed.

Imagine an Eve world with zero link alts. That is the Eve world I want to live in. Unfortunately it would be Eve offline, thus why links are never going to be on grid. "Technical limitations" my balls.

I can imagine this very well and I do not want it to happen. In particular not for my hauler char who then potentially would have to rely on other players for webbing and cynos, which is something I do not see myself ever to let happen. How well this would end with the ever faster growing level of incompetence as well as the ever growing focus on instant action, instant fun away from tedious and protracted tasks in the game is also something I can imagine very well. I do not see neither myself waiting for some other person to finally take pity on my pleas for webs from Jita to Zinkon. Let alone for things like cynos, which I then had to check with a char before jumping to it in order to ensure that it's in a proper place. This is not going to happen for me.
Moreover, you do not really want to see that, although it will be a lot less people doing it, these less people will have a massive advantage over those who do not or cannot do it. I would certainly try to circumvent it, for the above reasons.

Then why the hell are you playing an MMO to begin with. Even WoW doesn't let you carebear with alts to avoid interaction and cooperation with other people.

Instead of begging someone for webs, consider paying them for their service like you're actually paying someone to work for you doing something. Everyone ignores begging for a reason.

Also, webs were never intended to allow people to insta-warp away and protect them from ganks. It was a side effect of the mechanic, practically an exploit, fortunate if you're someone who wants to find good game mechanic abuse, unfortunate for people that came expecting a fair game.

I play this space sim because I like space sims. I play this Sandbox because I like to play this Sandbox. I play with other players when I decide to do so. I play with other players how I decide to do it. If you see EVE as just another MMO like WOW, then you are the reason why I play the game how I play it. If you see EVE as just another game, you are also among the reasons why I play EVE how I play it. You might also notice that I highlighted Sandbox. I trust you know the definition of sandbox. A hint: It offers choices.

I should paying them? And who pays these expenses for me? Let's see for an example: 3 billion collateral, Jita -Amarr, 15 Million reward. What do you think should I pay a fleet to protect me from Siegfried Cohenberg, the bumper? And by fleet I mean either a couple of capable counter bumpers or 5 Talos to gank him or a fleet of 10-15 T2 logi to rep me when they strike plus a fleet of, let's say, Insta-Canes/Muninns to kill the Catas/Talos/Brutixes when they strike. Of course, I need them to be ready when I need them, not when they have time or feel like it. I also trust you see the kind of disparity in money that I gain from the contract and what I have to pay, for instance, for the Taloses to get rid of the Machariel -- just to point out one glaring flaw in your response.
I'm not begging, I never beg. I ask people to do things for me and I pay them in most cases an appropriate reward for their help (be it shared bounties, loot, transport rewards, fair prices for market items/contracts, and so on); however, my patience is a limited resource and it does not replenish quickly.

Please don't get me started on "fair game". If fair game for you is that people, 1 person mind you, can bump several freighters for hours without any possibility to legally remove him from the field, how is webbing me into warp with several legal game mechanics, and in addition another account that I need to pay for, not "fair game"? And trust me, I recently managed to keep 6 freighters bumped off a gate for prolonged time until the person in question came back to his alt fleet and warped them off. I even was using a sub-optimal ship for doing that. It is very easy to achieve that and I am by far not a professional at bumping.

With this said: Do. Not. Ever. Again. Attempt. To. Tell. Me. How. I. Should. Play. EVE.

You said begging in local for webs. Don't bring it up and then say you didn't say that.

Imagine an Eve world with zero link alts. That is the Eve world I want to live in.