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Lori Dyth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:14:00 -
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In roughly 2 weeks time, something good/bad ( depends on your knowledge/stocks ) will be happening again to the Empire market place.
Cant say what, but when it comes i'll dig this thread back up just to post a 'Told you so'.
I will say this though, if you thought the goons oxytope/ice interdiction was impressive in how they manipulated the prices to suit themselves, then whats coming will pale in to insignificance and effect a much wider base 
See you all in a couple of weeks  |

Max Flipper
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:22:00 -
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Lori Dyth wrote:In roughly 2 weeks time, something good/bad ( depends on your knowledge/stocks ) will be happening again to the Empire market place. Cant say what, but when it comes i'll dig this thread back up just to post a 'Told you so'. I will say this though, if you thought the goons oxytope/ice interdiction was impressive in how they manipulated the prices to suit themselves, then whats coming will pale in to insignificance and effect a much wider base  See you all in a couple of weeks  I see a lot of offline towers in your future? |

Tekota
The Freighter Factory
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:25:00 -
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Unless you state your predictions you may just look like Captain Hindsight.
You could make one of these posts every two weeks and say "yep, two weeks ago the items I was talking about were mex and plex", and lo and behold you'd be right. |

Lori Dyth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:32:00 -
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Tekota wrote:Unless you state your predictions you may just look like Captain Hindsight.
You could make one of these posts every two weeks and say "yep, two weeks ago the items I was talking about were mex and plex", and lo and behold you'd be right.
Fair comment.
Ok, here's a prediction.
T1 ships (all races ) from dest - BC will rise sharply in price as a side effect of whats coming.
Still pretty vague i know, but thats as much as im willing to share right now until i've stockpiled enough of the items i know are going to be effected without spooking the market. |

David Forge
Forge Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:32:00 -
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The crystal ball is showing me the letter M dressed all in black. |

Tekota
The Freighter Factory
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Posted - 2011.12.05 16:52:00 -
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Lori Dyth wrote:Tekota wrote:Unless you state your predictions you may just look like Captain Hindsight.
You could make one of these posts every two weeks and say "yep, two weeks ago the items I was talking about were mex and plex", and lo and behold you'd be right. Fair comment. Ok, here's a prediction. T1 ships (all races ) from dest - BC will rise sharply in price as a side effect of whats coming. Still pretty vague i know, but thats as much as im willing to share right now until i've stockpiled enough of the items i know are going to be effected without spooking the market.
Well that's fair enough :o)
Would sound a note of caution that T1 production is, across the universe, by virtue of strong competition, tied very closely to mineral prices and spikes in demand of a given T1 ship tend to be met by increased production very quickly. That's assuming I've got what you're talking about right however, which is thrown somewhat by your cutoff of "to BC".
If your prediction were strengthening, or continued strength, in the mineral basket as a whole that would affect all T1, not just cutting off at BC - something, incidentally, I'm minded to agree with; btw, in light of the mineral basket there are some increasingly cheap looking freighters on the market right now you cheap scrotes (end plug). |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
515
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Posted - 2011.12.05 17:04:00 -
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What, are the goons going back to their good old-fashioned sub-battleship roots and starting some terror campaign across the galaxy ? :P http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |

David Forge
Forge Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.05 17:18:00 -
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Hmmm....aren't the goons in the process of switching to a Maelstrom-centric fleet? |

Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.05 17:33:00 -
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That would've been valid intel about 1.5 years ago or something. |

David Forge
Forge Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.05 17:41:00 -
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My spies message me via pony express. Actually, I skimmed Jester's Trek rather than reading it. Woops.  |

enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:08:00 -
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i will wait for goons confirmation. The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one.
-«enterprise-psi |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
227
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:29:00 -
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Anlt self proclaimed prophet(speculator)  |

OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:31:00 -
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This totally has nothing to do with CCP going to a bounty-based payout for Drones. You don't need to see his identification. . . .
Move along. . . |

Max Flipper
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.05 18:31:00 -
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Isn't Hulkageddon scheduled to start in the near future?  Some Drone anos also got nerfed but i doubt thats enough for a massive spike. |

Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2011.12.05 19:22:00 -
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Last I heard, drone bounties aren't coming any time soon. And min prices are already dropping from the expansion surge. I think it'll take a fundamental change in supply or demand to cause the sort of changes Lori is talking about here. I just don't see those changes happening. |

Kara Books
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.05 20:28:00 -
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my .01 cents:
So the goons have ALLOT of these new t3 battlecruiser BPO's and they need to get rid of ships at a discount?
The reality of the matter is, what the goons are planning is rather straight forward, Hike up the mineral prices 2-4 times what they are and then make t3 battle cruisers for sale at inflated prices (keep in mind the minerals they want to buy out will be at current prices and the ships they sell will be based off of NEW mineral prices)
If the goons are not planning ^ that then sorry, I will lose even more respect after your fail ice-capade, we all know it was fail, and if your still at it.. its gonna fail.
thats not all, if they want their plan to succeed, they will need to hit Gallante space and parts of Amarr space to chase away people from running missions and into mining/PVP where they should fall right into the hands of the waiting goon squads (to the tune of Hulkageddon) fool people into ganking every one (losing their own ships in the process)
The problem will be further aggravated by the fact, that the Russians got their.. lets call it.. "Automated" featured nerfed to the point of no return I.E. No more 4-8 mill every 15 min of minerals! in Drone space!, if you don't quite understand what that means, let me translate that into English, 11-15% price increase on ALL things manufactured within 1 year, IF NOTHING CHANGES and there is NO market intervention of any sort.
The goons will hit eve from multiple directions, focusing, first one the ones that yield the best results.
If your not in an alliance holding super cap fleets able to engage goon super cap fleets, you best get into a battleship, SEVERELY over tank it and go mining or whatever.
The goons will probably then, attempt to troll in their usual Cliche fashion, one of the sentences,I am expecting to see on the forums is: "We are combating inflation"
I have only 1 warning for the goons: IF you over do it, you could face retribution over to many accounts going inactive to fast, so don't get to greedy to fast.
Good luck, and don't fork up the game. |

Nex apparatu5
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.06 00:16:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:my .01 cents:
So the goons have ALLOT of these new t3 battlecruiser BPO's and they need to get rid of ships at a discount?
The reality of the matter is, what the goons are planning is rather straight forward, Hike up the mineral prices 2-4 times what they are and then make t3 battle cruisers for sale at inflated prices (keep in mind the minerals they want to buy out will be at current prices and the ships they sell will be based off of NEW mineral prices)
If the goons are not planning ^ that then sorry, I will lose even more respect after your fail ice-capade, we all know it was fail, and if your still at it.. its gonna fail.
thats not all, if they want their plan to succeed, they will need to hit Gallante space and parts of Amarr space to chase away people from running missions and into mining/PVP where they should fall right into the hands of the waiting goon squads (to the tune of Hulkageddon) fool people into ganking every one (losing their own ships in the process)
The problem will be further aggravated by the fact, that the Russians got their.. lets call it.. "Automated" featured nerfed to the point of no return I.E. No more 4-8 mill every 15 min of minerals! in Drone space!, if you don't quite understand what that means, let me translate that into English, 11-15% price increase on ALL things manufactured within 1 year, IF NOTHING CHANGES and there is NO market intervention of any sort.
The goons will hit eve from multiple directions, focusing, first one the ones that yield the best results.
If your not in an alliance holding super cap fleets able to engage goon super cap fleets, you best get into a battleship, SEVERELY over tank it and go mining or whatever.
The goons will probably then, attempt to troll in their usual Cliche fashion, one of the sentences,I am expecting to see on the forums is: "We are combating inflation"
I have only 1 warning for the goons: IF you over do it, you could face retribution over to many accounts going inactive to fast, so don't get to greedy to fast.
Good luck, and don't fork up the game.
Translation: buy tinfoil hats, demand seems to be spiking. |

Kagan Storm
The Colonial Forces Rolling Thunder.
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Posted - 2011.12.06 01:55:00 -
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Ok im here you can stop panicking. As you can see it took me less then 2 weeks to come... you could have just mailed me ingame or convoed  Offering small loans. Send message for details and arrangements. :)
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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
10
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Posted - 2011.12.06 02:05:00 -
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Transmitters! It's all about transmitters!
Buy dems nao!
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Fred Barbossa
Free Mineral Collective
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Posted - 2011.12.06 04:01:00 -
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Its come full circle, now that people are blindly accusing goons of market manip, they have become bob.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2011.12.06 04:54:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:my .01 cents:
So the goons have ALLOT of these new t3 battlecruiser BPO's and they need to get rid of ships at a discount?
The reality of the matter is, what the goons are planning is rather straight forward, Hike up the mineral prices 2-4 times what they are and then make t3 battle cruisers for sale at inflated prices (keep in mind the minerals they want to buy out will be at current prices and the ships they sell will be based off of NEW mineral prices)
If the goons are not planning ^ that then sorry, I will lose even more respect after your fail ice-capade, we all know it was fail, and if your still at it.. its gonna fail.
thats not all, if they want their plan to succeed, they will need to hit Gallante space and parts of Amarr space to chase away people from running missions and into mining/PVP where they should fall right into the hands of the waiting goon squads (to the tune of Hulkageddon) fool people into ganking every one (losing their own ships in the process)
The problem will be further aggravated by the fact, that the Russians got their.. lets call it.. "Automated" featured nerfed to the point of no return I.E. No more 4-8 mill every 15 min of minerals! in Drone space!, if you don't quite understand what that means, let me translate that into English, 11-15% price increase on ALL things manufactured within 1 year, IF NOTHING CHANGES and there is NO market intervention of any sort.
The goons will hit eve from multiple directions, focusing, first one the ones that yield the best results.
If your not in an alliance holding super cap fleets able to engage goon super cap fleets, you best get into a battleship, SEVERELY over tank it and go mining or whatever.
The goons will probably then, attempt to troll in their usual Cliche fashion, one of the sentences,I am expecting to see on the forums is: "We are combating inflation"
I have only 1 warning for the goons: IF you over do it, you could face retribution over to many accounts going inactive to fast, so don't get to greedy to fast.
Good luck, and don't fork up the game.
So let me tell you something.
Gallente ice got interdicted in no small part because it was easy. Two major clusters in highsec. The full power and fury of the swarm concentrated on something like a dozen or so systems.
What you're proposing, that's effort.
We don't like effort.
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DelBoy Trades
Enslave. GIANTSBANE.
74
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Posted - 2011.12.06 05:07:00 -
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I predict a new ship will be introduced to the game in the next 10 years, I'll trawl this old thread up to tell you "told you so" sometime over the next 10 years. Damn nature, you scary! |

Menrith Hadel
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.06 05:56:00 -
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Fred Barbossa wrote:Its come full circle, now that people are blindly accusing goons of market manip, they have become bob.
I, for one, love this new trend where every single market-related change or rumour is attributed to Goons. I wonder how long it will take before this aura wears off. |

Aine Ni
Suicide Ganger
3
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Posted - 2011.12.06 14:12:00 -
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*Aine Ni puts on her tinfoil hat, and startes to get ready for the party |

Eleonora Skye
Sushi Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.12.06 14:23:00 -
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In roughly 2 month time, something good/bad ( depends on your knowledge/wealth ) will be happening again to the world's economy.
Cant say what, but when it comes i'll dig this thread back up just to post a 'Told you so'.
I will say this though, if you thought the banks ****** up badly in 2008, then whats coming will pale in to insignificance and effect a much wider base 
See you all in a couple of weeks  |

Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
18
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Posted - 2011.12.06 14:52:00 -
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Menrith Hadel wrote:Fred Barbossa wrote:Its come full circle, now that people are blindly accusing goons of market manip, they have become bob.
I, for one, love this new trend where every single market-related change or rumour is attributed to Goons. I wonder how long it will take before this aura wears off.
I was going to set up some book orders for scrap metal in Heimatar when I thought, "What happens if Goons interdict me?"
I'm now hiding under my desk.
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
131
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Posted - 2011.12.06 15:21:00 -
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Due to the sustained current gluttonous consumption of one capsuleer, Amarr is going to run out of Hit n Spicy Chicken Wings in two weeks as supply is unable to keep up with the demand for MOAR WINGS.
A storm is indeed coming. Black Man with Goggles |

Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.06 15:25:00 -
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Just to be boring here. Ice and Pi stuff is going higher. There will be some days lost in production ( that we will never get back) + the changes in PI. |

Rasz Lin
6
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:18:00 -
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some bird told me it cost 1Bill fo fuel a pos with blocks? |

Lori Dyth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.06 21:09:00 -
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Who said anything about the goons being involved or behind this? I know i didnt....
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