Once again. No one suggested fleet undock. Continuously implying this is ineffective, irrational, and changes nothing I've said.

However, I have openly displayed more then a half a dozen reasons as to why this new mechanic would be useful.

It makes logical sense, along with the suggestion I've made for members to be able to toggle it on/off, that fleet commanders would have this ability as it does not assert direct control over the fleet members combat abilities, while it does expand on the commanders abilities (which they already posses certain ones) to be able to navigate their pilots ships with non-combat commands. This provides additional immersion gameplay and incentive for pilots to train for, and work towards, leadership roll in EvE as it gives them a great deal of authority and power over those who trust their fleet commanders with their pods and ships, while those who do not fully trust him, can turn it off at their discretion, also adding an element to the metagame of leadership that would be openly displayed for a commander to observe.

This should be an ability gained only upon training Fleet Command, not something squad or even Wing commanders would have access to. This does not in anyway usurp the human element from the game and actually helps to hone it.

I have definitely drawn the line, please reread the thread.

So, in addition to playing the game for all the players in your fleet with the exception of target lock and pressing f1, you want this to operate through a system inconsistent with the existing wing warps. Got it. This sounds like a great idea.
Fleet warps are a nice system because they keep the fleet together and can be canceled by the players. They do not fully replace the line member's actions as a means to travel. Your suggestions would allow the fleet members to go afk for minutes at a time while the FC moves around for them, and if the FC activates a dock/jump command there is no option for them to cancel it.

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I personally think he made a decent case for it.

i could see how it could be used and how it could help fleet leaders better categorize their people. Like he said, part of the metagame.

It may be ahead of its time, but I would support it if not just to see the effect it would have on fleets.

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The joining of a fleet and the faith put in the fleet commander is by definition an act of trust, in EVE especially. Trust is a commodity that is difficult to earn, easy to violate, and impossible to buy.

The current fleet command options, while they allow a variety of capabilities for the commander do not allow them to actually command ships to do much, limited to warping the ships or regrouping them. While these are generous features alone to be sure, they would do well by being augmented to provide a fleet commander, perhaps not a wing or squad commander or perhaps so as well, with additional options to actually command the ships a step further. As mentioned before, trust in commanders is implicit.

Allowing an expansion of command options would provide metagame content for fleet commanders that is unparalleled in every other MMORPG while allowing the convenience and ease for the Fleets members to turn authority over to their fleet commander to make certain non-combat decisions on their behalf. An additional option could be added for members of a fleet to be able to enable or disable their inclusion in the commanders choice in docking and gating them, this provides several functions.

1.) The building of repport amongst members within a given fleet towards a commander.

2.) Trust building, between members and commander. Giving members of the fleet a choice to disallow docking or gating, allowing them to maintain control over these options or trust In their commander to make the call for them.

3.) Providing additional metagame content, not only for EVE, but especially for the commanders of fleets.

4.) Allowing additional command decisions to be made on behalf of the fleet by the commander at his discretion for the benefit or drawback of his pilots.

5.) These command options can very easily be integrated into the existing fleet window and would expand the content of existing gameplay while providing additional incentive for those who wish to persue further leadership rolls, giving additional cause to do so.

An additional feature that shouldn't go unmentioned as well should be the advent of Hot Keys for the feature of not only Mass Dock and Mass Gate, but also and for Fleet Warp, Fleet Jump, and Regroup as well.

This would allow further tight-nit dynamic use of the Fleet commanders ability to direct and guide his fleet, wings, and squads with additional ease. It makes logical sense that since almost every aspect of piloting and navigation is represented with a possible hot key, that these choices should be represented as well.

Progression of these features would allow further dynamic gameplay and immersion for the roles of leadership while allowing the progressive relationship of trust to be built between the fleets members.

So would fleet gate and fleet dock.

Fleet warp needs to be simply removed imho. It made manoeuvrability of big fleets to easy when it shouldn't be.
Bad pilots should die to piloting mistakes, disengaging a fleet should let slow people behind to die etc.

If I remember correctly Fozzie mentionned it once, I hope he actually has a plan for this.