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Moignus Nakrar
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2015.05.15 08:31:12 -
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[Raven, Lvl 4 Raven] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Kinetic Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II X-Large Shield Booster II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Shield Boost Amplifier II Empty
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I Empty
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x10
This is what I am planning on rolling with for level 4 missions, I'm not sure if I could improve or change anything around, any tips or help would be appreciated.
I'm new to level 4 missions, so this is not something I'm experienced in whatsoever. |
Spud Lazair
Hedion University Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2015.05.15 09:18:24 -
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Pop goes the raven imo you would loose the ship. Sorry cannot post fit am at work on a mobile
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue"
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
415
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Posted - 2015.05.15 10:29:38 -
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replace the CCCs with more Rigors. replace the PDSs with one more BCS and, if you have CPU issues, a... CPU thing (the green square one, i forget the name). in the "Empty" mid-slot put either AB or MJD. the empty high - i don't know.
Generally speaking, "Empty" is never good. |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.05.15 10:29:55 -
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Are you leaving mid slot empty? Bad idea. Try looking for a fit here: eve.battleclinic.com/browse_loadouts.php |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1233
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:18:01 -
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Seems like you are low on skills for a Raven yet, making that assumption based on the PDS's and empty mid. If you post your skills here using one of the websites available people can give you more help. I'm pretty sure the advice is going to be skill up first so you don't lose your ship.
Join a corp and or get a mission buddy... or get in a Noctis and salvage for people to get ISK/experience while you wait.
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Velarra
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:56:30 -
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Two thoughts come to mind:
[Raven, Lvl 4 Raven]
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
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Much more seriously, you really do want to be solidly skilled to effectively fly a Raven. Otherwise the experience will be less than pleasant. Sharing your skillset via http://eveboard.com/ for example, would help people effectively give you good fitting advice. |
stoicfaux
5587
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Posted - 2015.05.15 16:03:50 -
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https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Raven_%28Fitting%29#Raven_a_la_Liang
Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
249
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Posted - 2015.05.15 18:59:43 -
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stoicfaux wrote:https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Raven_%28Fitting%29#Raven_a_la_Liang
There is a fit on that page sporting siege launchers. Eve wiki pages just tend to rot, i guess? |
Spud Lazair
Hedion University Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2015.05.15 19:37:04 -
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why not t2 launchers?
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue"
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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
140
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Posted - 2015.05.15 20:05:14 -
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stoicfaux wrote:https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Raven_%28Fitting%29#Raven_a_la_Liang
This.
That fit will work just fine if you bother to even go take a look, because obviously you didn't even try to look before making your post. You can even use google.
Liang's fit is an old fit, the Raven didn't have that the extra mid slot it has today. So depending on the mission, you could put in a TP, or a webber, an AB, or a MJD, depending on how much room you have left. Her fit works very well for the beginners ( I still use her fit.) No games, no gimmicks, no problem. Go with it. After a while and you get experience, you can then get creative, but until then, fly safe.
-Kirst
Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
580
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Posted - 2015.05.15 21:15:59 -
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Spud Lazair wrote:Pop goes the raven imo you would loose the ship. Sorry cannot post fit am at work on a mobile +1
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat dessert first!
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
580
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Posted - 2015.05.15 21:17:38 -
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Velarra wrote:Two thoughts come to mind:
[Raven, Lvl 4 Raven]
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
lol
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat dessert first!
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
580
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Posted - 2015.05.15 21:22:12 -
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#9 - 2015-05-09 14:51:33 UTC | | Edited by: Caleidascope One of my older raven fits:
6x cruise missile
1x lmjd 2x sensor booster (you can put targeting range script if you like to be further from the rats) 1x x-large shield booster 2x shield boost amplifier (or you can do combination of resists)
4x bcu 1x co-processor (or you can do combination of dc and bcu, up to you)
3x rigor rigs or 2x rigor and 1x ccc or 2x rigor and 1x flare
As you can see this fit has some room for flexibility.
Learn to use LMJD.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat dessert first!
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Moignus Nakrar
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2015.05.16 02:44:22 -
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Raven PvE Tank:
High 6x Cruise Missile Launcher of your choice 1x NOS (optional)
Mid 1x X-Large Shield Booster II 2x Shield Boost Amplifier II 1x Cap Recharger II 3x Mission-specific Shield Hardeners (Tech II preferred)
Low 1x Ballistic Control System II 4x Capacitor Flux Coil II
Rigs 3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
New fit, no empty slots. I don't have the skills for T2. This is a pretty common fit it seems, as it was just posted with successful results on youtube.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1118
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Posted - 2015.05.16 04:04:05 -
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Moignus Nakrar wrote:Raven PvE Tank:
High 6x Cruise Missile Launcher of your choice 1x NOS (optional)
Mid 1x X-Large Shield Booster II 2x Shield Boost Amplifier II 1x Cap Recharger II 3x Mission-specific Shield Hardeners (Tech II preferred)
Low 1x Ballistic Control System II 4x Capacitor Flux Coil II
Rigs 3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
New fit, no empty slots. I don't have the skills for T2. This is a pretty common fit it seems, as it was just posted with successful results on youtube.
if by successful you mean death by boredom then yes very successful fit! way over tanked, and has almost no damage, I'd rather go mining, or even better go outside and watch the grass grow
@ChainsawPlankto
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1118
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Posted - 2015.05.16 04:13:28 -
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Hakaari Inkuran wrote:stoicfaux wrote:https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Raven_%28Fitting%29#Raven_a_la_Liang
There is a fit on that page sporting siege launchers. Eve wiki pages just tend to rot, i guess? eve-wiki is a graveyard, fortunately some things like the raven a la liang can wither the storm of time.
here is a t2 fit version in EFT format with some shiny. and an empty midslot, I'd probably put a sensor booster or afterburner in there. [Raven, Le Liang] Signal Amplifier II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster Kinetic Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron [empty med slot]
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
a more t2 and cheaper to fit, the CN bcus save a lot of cpu, so might have to go for a co-proc. [Raven, LVL 4 - t2 CPU] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Kinetic Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Hobgoblin II x5
@ChainsawPlankto
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Moignus Nakrar
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2015.05.16 04:53:56 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Moignus Nakrar wrote:Raven PvE Tank:
High 6x Cruise Missile Launcher of your choice 1x NOS (optional)
Mid 1x X-Large Shield Booster II 2x Shield Boost Amplifier II 1x Cap Recharger II 3x Mission-specific Shield Hardeners (Tech II preferred)
Low 1x Ballistic Control System II 4x Capacitor Flux Coil II
Rigs 3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
New fit, no empty slots. I don't have the skills for T2. This is a pretty common fit it seems, as it was just posted with successful results on youtube.
if by successful you mean death by boredom then yes very successful fit! way over tanked, and has almost no damage, I'd rather go mining, or even better go outside and watch the grass grow
That's the point, so I could be semi-afk while playing or doing something else. |
Paranoid Loyd
5174
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Posted - 2015.05.16 04:57:33 -
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Yeah one or two bling mods maybe, but a full rack of BCS? That would only take a handful of thrashers to kill and be quite profitable, would not recommend. Granted, the likelihood is pretty low and it will certainly add efficiency to the fit but just make sure you can afford to lose it.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Paranoid Loyd
5174
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Posted - 2015.05.16 05:18:50 -
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Moignus Nakrar wrote:That's the point, so I could be semi-afk while playing or doing something else.
If that's your plan just go passive, hell use autotargeting missiles while you're at it.
[Raven, PVE]
Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Thermic Dissipation Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Small Tractor Beam II
Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Hobgoblin II x5
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1120
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Posted - 2015.05.16 09:16:07 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Chainsaw wrote: [Raven, Le Liang] Signal Amplifier II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Yeah one or two bling mods maybe, but a full rack of BCS? That would only take a handful of thrashers to kill and be quite profitable, would not recommend. Granted, the likelihood is pretty low and it will certainly add efficiency to the fit but just make sure you can afford to lose it.
old fit I really haven't been bothered to update as I haven't touched a raven in years. I would probably go 2/2 or 3/1 faction/t2 respectively. depending on where you mission. although for 2-3 faction bcus they will probably just go after a less shiny marauder as that looks better on the KB.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1121
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Posted - 2015.05.16 09:18:04 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Moignus Nakrar wrote:That's the point, so I could be semi-afk while playing or doing something else. If that's your plan just go passive, hell use autotargeting missiles while you're at it.
imo fit a normal fit with a LMJD and use auto-targeting missiles then. I usually just orbit at 100km with an afterburner, and a medium shield booster.
and/or use drones.
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stoicfaux
5595
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Posted - 2015.05.16 12:18:52 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Chainsaw wrote: [Raven, Le Liang] Signal Amplifier II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Yeah one or two bling mods maybe, but a full rack of BCS? That would only take a handful of thrashers to kill and be quite profitable, would not recommend. Granted, the likelihood is pretty low and it will certainly add efficiency to the fit but just make sure you can afford to lose it. BCU II's only require Weapon Upgrades IV, so there's no reason to go with that many CN BCUs. Especially since Weapons Upgrades reduces the CPU costs of turrets and launchers and CPU is always in short supply on Caldari hulls.
BCU == BCS, i.e. ballistic control unit versus ballistic control system. It's an old people thing.
Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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Amanda Chan
Error 404 Pod Not Found
4
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Posted - 2015.05.16 15:00:29 -
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[Raven, Raven] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Large Micro Jump Drive Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Large Shield Booster II 100MN Afterburner II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot]
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Meta 4 as needed. Cap lasts a little over 2 minutes which is more than enough for pulsing booster as needed. Omni tanks with around 200 ehp/s. Low but enough when you mid away to reduce damage.
steps to pimp your raven: 1) medium pithi shield booster( b is good enough and hella cheaper then a) replacing large shield booster tech 2. 2) 3x Caldari bcus replacing tech 2 3) upgrade to caldari navy raven. And add pithi shield amp to replace em field.. Per your budget. Obviously 2 Cruise missile launches. 3x tech 2 rigors 4) 2x pithi c type invulneraability field. Replaces tech 2 field and mjd. Faster mission completion requies heavier tank and not wasting time mjd'd away.. 5) republic 100mn afterburner replaces tech 2. Lower cap usage on propulsion. More breathing room for cap. 6) republic target painters to replace Meta 4. pimping is optional but will double cap time and almost triple tank. It also makes your mission ship coat almost 10x as much. |
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
140
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Posted - 2015.05.16 16:34:25 -
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Lot of topics to cover . . .
CCC's on a Raven, in L4's, are just a NO, they should not be used. You need to use rigs, rigors, to apply damage to anything smaller than a BS, to reduce the exp. rad. of those missiles. Pulsing the SB will work just fine, unless you have low sp, but that is what the cap booster is for. If you need to run the SB for a long time, the booster will keep your cap up. It may also help you to GTFO if the incoming is over whelming you.
The MJD may be helpful sometimes. If you get into trouble, you point and click, and your 100km away. That mostly could put you out of targeting range, but the other BSs can still hit you. So you may have only delayed the inevitable.
Please do not passive tank a Raven. It's shield has a high recharge rate. Again, you're using shots that should be used to help generate dps, and apply it. With that above fit, there is only about 110 hp/s, which won't last very long.
Even though auto-targeting missiles can hit out to about 220km, they only give 500dps, 3465 volley. Missions would be very, very slow. You could do the same, maybe better, in a Drake. If you go AFK, you most like will come back looking at your pod.
4 Caldari BCUs, with Fury, for me, gives 1003dps, 8230 volley. 3 Caldari BCUs, with Fury, for me, gives 940dps, 7948 volley. 4 BCU II, with Fury, for me, gives 942dps, 7730 volley. 3 Caldari BCUs, and 1 BCU II, with Fury, for me, gives 996dps, 8173 volley. (I see the logic in that.)
That 4th BCU is almost like having a 7% implant.
Best medicine is to try different things, if you don't want to go by something that's already proven itself over time. You will quickly learn what works and what doesn't.
-Kirst
Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
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Safr0n
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.05.17 00:05:54 -
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It looks pretty good, assuming borderline skills. I would go with more tank until you get used to L4 missions. Use a faction shield booster like a large pith b type or large gist c type and then you you'll have enough cpu for a cap recharger in the mid slot. Then replace defensive mods with offense modes like more rigor rigs as you get skills.
[Raven, Mission] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Type-D Attenuation Signal Augmentation
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Explosive Deflection Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I |
Morgan Agrivar
Peace.Keepers Dread Pirate Syndicate
48
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Posted - 2015.05.17 06:43:56 -
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[Raven, Raven]
6x 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I (Scourge Cruise Missile)
X-Large Shield Booster II 2x Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Large Micro Jump Drive Sensor Booster II (Targeting Range Script)
Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II 3x Ballistic Control System II
3x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
1x Mobile Tractor Unit
My alt flies this but I hate Ravens anyways. At roughly 220m, it is somewhat affordable but of course L4 loot suck badly.
"Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
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Drazok
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.05.18 06:46:00 -
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High
6 CML T2 if you can , faction ammo or plan Med XL boster 3 t2 hardeners 2 shield boost amps 1 cap recharger
Low 2 x BCU 3X flux coil
Rigs 3x CCC
dones 5 light 5 med
brick tank that you can't lose if you try. Drones are meh with raven but bring em to clean up the frigs. This is not the fastest 4lv running but its not one you will lose either. Fit more gank as you get conformable with flying it.
This is cap stable with solid cap skills. its your cap/cpu/grid skill are not solid (lv5) do some more lv3s while you train up. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1236
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Posted - 2015.05.18 14:40:46 -
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Don't CCC it and don't MJD it. Tank it and leave 1 mid for your pointer.
Read Eve Survival and use PYFA or EFT and have exactly the right resistances for each mission you fly. Know your triggers and keep incoming DPS down.
Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1128
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Posted - 2015.05.18 21:49:57 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Don't CCC it and don't MJD it. Tank it and leave 1 mid for your pointer.
Read Eve Survival and use PYFA or EFT and have exactly the right resistances for each mission you fly. Know your triggers and keep incoming DPS down.
in general I agree, but when they moved a high to a mid, throwing a MJD on there makes a lot of sense as a gtfo button, and by just fitting a MJD you aren't really losing too much performance. The CPU/PG loss doesn't really make you sacrifice much. It isn't something I would use often, but when it is needed to prevent the loss of a ship it is well, training wheels. eventually you can take the training wheels off. Although there are some missions where a MJD helps, oh look at that group 100km away, perfect to MJD right into the center of them.
tl;dr use a MJD as training wheels.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Bagatur I
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2015.05.22 11:01:08 -
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my 2c - I read once on one of the fit website: 'if you cant make you shield boosting cap stable, then dont bother'. trying to make XL shield booster cap stable is insane. get rid of CCC rigs, you need better damage application with cruise missiles. |
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