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Deathdealerdoc
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Posted - 2006.11.12 07:56:00 -
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Today I went to run off some micro cap batteries when I noticed that all my micro cap battery blue prints were gone and they had been turned into small cap battery bpos and bpcs.
I picked up the micro battery bpos sometime ago. I even went looking for a new bunch not to long ago only to find they werent being sold. Its not a big ticket item but its rather frustrating getting a bpo ganked by ccp. I heard about them changing the expanded cargo I's over has this happened to any other BPOs? Im not sure if they thought they were upgrading us from micro to small but it was more of a downgrade market wise.
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Crotch Cricket
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:02:00 -
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Get over yourself n00b.
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Mitten
Caldari SAS Strike Team Lacuna Viators Imperium
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Crotch Cricket Get over yourself n00b.
Post with your main or stfu ****head. How would you like for CCP to change a ship of yours to a diff ship without notice.
Again I repeat, post with your main or stfu, actually if your main is gonna say the same thing then just plain stfu.
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:41:00 -
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thats pretty bad because i use micro cap batteries in one of my ship setups... its the only thing that fits
wtf is going on with bpos... ?
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:56:00 -
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TBH it seems a bit odd to me, perhapse these changes were meant to be announced but because all the dev's are busy with the Fanfest sombody has released them early by accident?
I'm sure we'll get a decent explaination after the Devs sober up on Monday morning (Read: next Tuesday ) ----- Move along, nothing to see here... |
Patric Murphy
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.11.12 08:56:00 -
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It appears that several new T2 items that are in the game but not avalible, such as cargo expanders 2, are becoming avalible in Kali. Most of these items had a T1 variant BPO that is curantly only avalibe through the lottary, so these are being up graded and the T1 BPOs will be seaded on the market to falcilitate invention. Note however that some of these are changes in name only, as reports are that cargo expanders 2 on sisi now have the same stats as the expanded cargo holders do curently.
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Crotch Cricket
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mitten
Post with your main or stfu ****head.
****... head... s.t.f.u. hmmm interesting
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How would you like for CCP to change a ship of yours to a diff ship without notice.
What do I care? I'm a fracking n00b alt!
Quote: Again I repeat, post with your main or stfu
main... stfu. repeat. post. with.
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actually if your main is gonna say the same thing
Main. say. same. thing.
Quote: then just plain stfu.
Darn. Was hoping for stfu with jelly, or maybe butter. Plain stfu is no good.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:18:00 -
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and we roll on CCP making some changes
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord and we roll on CCP making some changes
Let me guess you don't have any blueprints do you? I could see someone being pretty upset if they got their T2 blueprint changed to a T1 blueprint. The other thing about DDD's case is that he actually acquired the last of the bpo's for the micro cap battery after noticing that they weren't being seeded anymore. As a business man, he thought that perhaps having something RARE would be worth something...
You wouldn't know anything about that though would you.
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Mitten
Caldari SAS Strike Team Lacuna Viators Imperium
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Mitten on 12/11/2006 09:30:27
Originally by: Crotch Cricket
Originally by: Mitten
Post with your main or stfu ****head.
****... head... s.t.f.u. hmmm interesting
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How would you like for CCP to change a ship of yours to a diff ship without notice.
What do I care? I'm a fracking n00b alt!
Quote: Again I repeat, post with your main or stfu
main... stfu. repeat. post. with.
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actually if your main is gonna say the same thing
Main. say. same. thing.
Quote: then just plain stfu.
Darn. Was hoping for stfu with jelly, or maybe butter. Plain stfu is no good.
And now I know your main, sister zoot... the stalker of my bud matt... Your the only ****head on the forum that posts in such a way. get back under your bridge troll.
Edit: btw dont bother responding, already mailed mods they should be here soon
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Deathdealerdoc
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:36:00 -
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You can call me a noob but youd most likley be frustrated to if you had a hard to get ahold of bpo which you make isk off of disapear only to be replaced by a crap bpo that makes a modual that is dropped by every other rat in the game. I expect to get ganked in a shuttle going through jita with a BPO not by ccp reaching into my hanger and exchanging my bpo for a crap one.
They were so kind to replace the expanded cargo hold 1 bpo owners with a t2 varient. They sure didnt see fit to do the same for me. So yeah im frustrated.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.11.12 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mitten
And now I know your main, sister zoot... the stalker of my bud matt... Your the only ****head on the forum that posts in such a way. get back under your bridge troll.
Edit: btw dont bother responding, already mailed mods they should be here soon
I'm pretty sure you are incorrect about that. Because I am him and him is I. I was merely repaying a friend (Deathdealerdoc) for what he did to one of my (more serious) threads.
Go troll the trolls elsewhere, k, thanks.
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Deathdealerdoc
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Posted - 2006.11.12 10:27:00 -
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Ah it was you lugal ha....ha, guess pay back is a *you know what* though and ya got me.
Back on topic though, how many other bpos were changed? Are micro cap battery bpo owners the only ones getting the shaft? or are others getting t2 variants like the cargo expander I's?
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Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.12 10:35:00 -
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CCP pls stop ******* around with ppl's BPOs, you already have a scandal at head with that guy buying up EXP I BPO since he knew it was going to changed to EXP II BPO, info leaked?, your own staff?, dont know but this sort of stuff makes the rest feel like second class customer and thats where they quit in a capitalistic economy (not very likely in a communistic one since customer is dependant on supplier)
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Eilie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.11.12 10:48:00 -
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I can confirm that my Micro Shield Transporter BPO, Micro Capacitor Battery BPO, and Micro Capacitor Booster BPO were all changed into "Small" versions...
I never did anything with these BPs and I thought they were worthless, but I knew they were rare and no longer seeded so I am now ****ed off that they turned them into useless common junk...
I'm going to guess that all these BP changes mean they are removing all "Micro" and "Basic" stuff from the game...
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Deathdealerdoc
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Posted - 2006.11.12 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Deathdealerdoc on 12/11/2006 11:17:55
Exactly they were rare, I had to hunt for that bpo to get my hands on it. I havent been lucky enough to get a t2 bpo dropped in my lap from a Research agent but I went out and hunted down a rare bpo the old fashion way and was making a modest profit now I get probably my best bpo washed away with no word?
I'm sure ccp is trying thier best to get the t2 bpo situation solved but its just very frustrating losing something in the game you really favored and in return you get a worthless bpo. I love ya ccp but cut a workin man a break
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PanzerGrenadier
Caldari Templars of Space CORE.
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Posted - 2006.11.12 12:28:00 -
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That sucks dude. Really sorry.
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E0MAR
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Posted - 2006.11.12 12:49:00 -
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obviously i dont forum ***** anywhere near enough cos i missed a lot of this.
whats happened to expanded cargohold 1 bpos?
cos i might have one of them already.
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Karjala Inc. Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.12 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: E0MAR whats happened to expanded cargohold 1 bpos?
CCP added one I to it making it Expanded Cargohold II BPO.
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Nev Clavain
Wise Guys Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.12 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
Originally by: Miss Overlord and we roll on CCP making some changes
Let me guess you don't have any blueprints do you? I could see someone being pretty upset if they got their T2 blueprint changed to a T1 blueprint. The other thing about DDD's case is that he actually acquired the last of the bpo's for the micro cap battery after noticing that they weren't being seeded anymore. As a business man, he thought that perhaps having something RARE would be worth something...
You wouldn't know anything about that though would you.
and as a "businessman" dealing in commidities over which he ultimately has no direct control, he might also have realised he was taking what's known in the trade as "a risk"
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.11.12 14:55:00 -
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Anyone know if the t2 bpo's of the same items were changed as well? ----------------------
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.11.12 14:58:00 -
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Word on the street is that "micro" items are on their way out of the game.
I can understand the changes CCP is making in regards to items and BPO, but I would really like some official words on the matter. But I guess we will not have any before all changes are complete. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute |
vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.12 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran Word on the street is that "micro" items are on their way out of the game.
I can understand the changes CCP is making in regards to items and BPO, but I would really like some official words on the matter. But I guess we will not have any before all changes are complete.
I hope this does not mean that micro auxiliary powercores will be removed as well. It's a very useful module on a frig, and I make a fair amount of money from it.
Of course, if they are replaced with small powercores with the same stats, who cares?
Another gaping hole in the list is the damage control I BPO - not seeded at all in any way AFAIK. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." ---------------------------------------------- |
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.11.12 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Eilie I can confirm that my Micro Shield Transporter BPO, Micro Capacitor Battery BPO, and Micro Capacitor Booster BPO were all changed into "Small" versions...
I never did anything with these BPs and I thought they were worthless, but I knew they were rare and no longer seeded so I am now ****ed off that they turned them into useless common junk...
I'm going to guess that all these BP changes mean they are removing all "Micro" and "Basic" stuff from the game...
Micro items needed to be removed, they really didn't do anything, and micro shield extenders are HARDER to fit than small extenders.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Draaken
Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.12 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nev Clavain
Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
Originally by: Miss Overlord and we roll on CCP making some changes
Let me guess you don't have any blueprints do you? I could see someone being pretty upset if they got their T2 blueprint changed to a T1 blueprint. The other thing about DDD's case is that he actually acquired the last of the bpo's for the micro cap battery after noticing that they weren't being seeded anymore. As a business man, he thought that perhaps having something RARE would be worth something...
You wouldn't know anything about that though would you.
and as a "businessman" dealing in commidities over which he ultimately has no direct control, he might also have realised he was taking what's known in the trade as "a risk"
condescension ftw!
"Taking a risk" would be if he engaged in manufacturing of for example a "flavour of the week" module and not getting it sold all of a sudden. Having your rare BPO exchanged by the magic nerf-wand into something useless is far from taking a risk. ____________________ first!!1!! -Capsicum
Originally by: Wrangler I lock, therefor I am.
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Draaken
Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.12 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Eilie I can confirm that my Micro Shield Transporter BPO, Micro Capacitor Battery BPO, and Micro Capacitor Booster BPO were all changed into "Small" versions...
I never did anything with these BPs and I thought they were worthless, but I knew they were rare and no longer seeded so I am now ****ed off that they turned them into useless common junk...
I'm going to guess that all these BP changes mean they are removing all "Micro" and "Basic" stuff from the game...
Micro items needed to be removed, they really didn't do anything, and micro shield extenders are HARDER to fit than small extenders.
First of all, there are fittings where I wouldn't want to miss out on my Micro Cap Battery. Secondly, Eilie mentioned Micro Shield Transporters, not Extenders ... the use of both are debatable, but a 'magic' change into a different item is plain wrong though, even more so without any prior note of warning from CCP. ____________________ first!!1!! -Capsicum
Originally by: Wrangler I lock, therefor I am.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.11.12 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Draaken ..., but a 'magic' change into a different item is plain wrong though, even more so without any prior note of warning from CCP.
Actually not.
As CCP is "God of items" I prefer them just doing these changes without warning and THEN explain them. Just think of what happens to market prices when the player base gets warned beforehand. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute |
Saladin
Minmatar V I R I I Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.11.12 16:39:00 -
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Should we even be surprised anymore? Yet another example of CCP giving the working man the shaft. ----
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Peri Helion
Amarr Omega Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Posted - 2006.11.12 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Originally by: Draaken ..., but a 'magic' change into a different item is plain wrong though, even more so without any prior note of warning from CCP.
Actually not.
As CCP is "God of items" I prefer them just doing these changes without warning and THEN explain them. Just think of what happens to market prices when the player base gets warned beforehand.
I actually support the concept of the "Just change it, then explain it" despite my personal outrage over these changes. But that is NOT what is happening here. They just changed it, at least 3 days ago, and have yet to explain it, or publish the information in any way to avoid scamming (how many people bought escrowed T1 CE BPOs before they knew they were not worth anywhere near as much as before?)
Also, how many people are buying T2 Cargo Expanders that aren't aware of the possible changes based on the stats on Sisi? All that was needed was either a sticky at the top of this forum the day after the DT where this changed or better yet a news item to state:
"All, in order to make invention work, we are changing all rare previously unreleased T1 BPOs for xxxxx to T2, and seeding the NPC market with the T1 BPOs for those same mods. We understand that this will cause some consternation among the R&D community, but this is the way it has to be. We are making this post to insure nobody gets scammed in the ensuing confusion. And by the way, we are looking at rebalancing the bonus to the T2 Cargo Expander mods to match that of the Local Hull Expander. Also, our research has shown that there are some rarely used T1 BPOs and we are going to upgrade those to the next size/class higher T1 BPOs. Thank you for your time and patience. "
See how easy that was? Post that right after the changes and everybody has equal information from which to opperate, and nobody gets a chance to profit beforehand.
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Deathdealerdoc
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Posted - 2006.11.12 19:54:00 -
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I can understand them not making any annocement before hand for obvious reasons. Prices from yesterday to today have went from 20k to 200k per unit. I pulled my stockpile off the market once I saw what was happening.
The micro cap battery was a excellent item to use on tight fits and heavily used by newer players because of its low skill requirements and the amount I sold attested to that.
I just think they could have been a little more considerate to those of us getting the shaft on our rare bpos. Even more so when its like hey these guys bpos are getting turned into tech 2 and yours well yours is being turned into a worthless bpo. If your gonna shaft us at least throw us some sorta bone.
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