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Scorpians
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Posted - 2006.11.12 17:59:00 -
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this has to stop now! iv changed system 3 times in last week all to be invaded by diffrent groups of macro miners iv seen group of 20 a group of 10 and another of 8 in all my bases. i cant mine enywhere enymore becouse ether its in use or macros invade. this has to stop now i cant even build enymore becouse the best have no ore to mine. i vote there shuld be monitering softwere installed into eve to track and check background programs for hacks and macro softwere. this has to stop now! its ruind my production team in my corp.
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Deitre Cibrus
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:01:00 -
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Uhm, NO. Just say NO. This isn't WoW. I don't want a Warden watching me. -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
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Allen Deckard
Gallente WTB Supplies
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:02:00 -
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yep right there with ya.
Personally I think the easiest way to get rid of every macro miner in the game is to get rid of 14day free trials.
Maybe go to something like buy the game get 30 days free.
Every macro miner i have seen is 14 or fewer days old and the ones that arent would be easily eliminated just by people reporting them. Not many are going to want to pay to macromine.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: Splagada on 12/11/2006 18:04:07 i was on the verge of quitting because of this and crowded systems, so i went in random 0.0 after a 5mins long study of the map, and found :
1-NPC stations 2-empty systems 3-noone at all 4-market quickly just by the door 5- better then market : build your BS on the spot and resell it for 140M
macro?? that must be some lustrevik stuff. if it's "sweat shops" they arent bannable, and most of them do it like this ------
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:04:00 -
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Climb in armageddon, place 8 large smarties in highs, all tank stuff in meds n lows, approach and pop. Rinse and repeat. Pop them enough and maybe they will sod off for abit, stand up and take action. When your sec gets to low, carebear it bak up again and carry on
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Scorpians
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:05:00 -
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i have reported them. on 3 chars twice a day for like 3 months now diff guys all the time. and all i get. we will look into it . thanks. then they delete it and ignore it.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:06:00 -
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they dont delete. but as i said above if it's sweatshops they cant catch them. only thing they can do is check where the isk sent goes to, then track it to the "boss", then blow up the entire network one day ------
relaxed corp looking for members |

Futuri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:19:00 -
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Your petition was 'ignored' probably due to the fact that those guys were not macroing, GMs can't just go around banning people you don't like. Those miners may have been working for an ISK seller but they were not violating the EULA themselves, I think.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpians this has to stop now! iv changed system 3 times in last week all to be invaded by diffrent groups of macro miners iv seen group of 20 a group of 10 and another of 8 in all my bases. i cant mine enywhere enymore becouse ether its in use or macros invade. this has to stop now i cant even build enymore becouse the best have no ore to mine. i vote there shuld be monitering softwere installed into eve to track and check background programs for hacks and macro softwere. this has to stop now! its ruind my production team in my corp.
If they are so much better at it than you, perhaps outsourcing is your best bet.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
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VeNT
Minmatar Freelancer Union Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:32:00 -
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report it, keep reporting it, steal their ore after reporting it, when they agress you bring out the big guns and kill them all.
-------------------- Selena 001 > has VeNT left system? its gone really quiet! |

Breton Duke
Amarr Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpians this has to stop now! iv changed system 3 times in last week all to be invaded by diffrent groups of macro miners iv seen group of 20 a group of 10 and another of 8 in all my bases. i cant mine enywhere enymore becouse ether its in use or macros invade. this has to stop now i cant even build enymore becouse the best have no ore to mine. i vote there shuld be monitering softwere installed into eve to track and check background programs for hacks and macro softwere. this has to stop now! its ruind my production team in my corp.
If you have found genuine macroers, you might want to think about organizing parties to simply steal ore out of their cans. Get someone to haul. You'll get a lot of ore that way, and they'll probably just leave the system to avoid getting ripped off. Just be sure that they are really macroers before you do it. Many of us don't like ore thieves, but macroers are fair game. Just be aware that mining corps are also known to strip belts, and they carry grudges.
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Allen Deckard
Gallente WTB Supplies
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Thor Xian
Originally by: Scorpians this has to stop now! iv changed system 3 times in last week all to be invaded by diffrent groups of macro miners iv seen group of 20 a group of 10 and another of 8 in all my bases. i cant mine enywhere enymore becouse ether its in use or macros invade. this has to stop now i cant even build enymore becouse the best have no ore to mine. i vote there shuld be monitering softwere installed into eve to track and check background programs for hacks and macro softwere. this has to stop now! its ruind my production team in my corp.
If they are so much better at it than you, perhaps outsourcing is your best bet.
Better at it? you mean at making a free account buying a program off ebay then turning it on and going to work that day?
Blow them up? what blow up their 14k isk ship that they mined out with another char using macros? Yep you really upset their day.
Maybe you get their account banned by reporting them? wow you set them back by 2 or 3 days on that one account while they might have 200 accounts running in different systems all over eve.
Sweet shop maybe. But not likely. why use a real person when all it takes is a tiney little program that will do it for free all day and night everyday.
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Glumpumpkin
House Elf Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:43:00 -
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If they're still in the rookie corps there's nothing you can do other than greif them or look for better space to mine in, which isn't hard to find. If they have their own corporation pony up the 4m to wardec them and gank their miners.
What you should really do is stop mining crap ores in highsec and move down to lowsec for the omber and jaspet. If you're really feeling adventurous you can move into some 0.0 space and mine Ochre or Crokite! Population density in those systems is low because of the risk involved in mining them, but if you're attentive you can easily make some mad space bucks very quickly- definitely enough to offset the cost of the ospreys you will inevitable lose.
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Daelin Blackleaf
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Posted - 2006.11.12 18:59:00 -
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Gallente space... Saturday night... almost every 0.5 system checked.. No Kernite.
Nuff said.
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Riddick06
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Posted - 2006.11.12 19:05:00 -
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Geez you people are over complicating things because of these macro miners they have saved you training weeks and weeks in a barge instead you can better invest it in a transport ship and local hull expanders.
Adapt or die but if it wasnt for macro bad guys i wouldnt get to hear badly worded insults and haul 50k m3 worth of ore in 5 minutes i bother to log on.
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Futuri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.12 19:08:00 -
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I like how people throw around the word "macro".
It seems that for the general EVE player, macroer = anyone who mines more ore than him.
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hatchette
Caldari Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.11.12 19:11:00 -
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At least they are keeping tritanium prices at bearable levels:P
It's not like they are mining high-end ores and have significant impact on economy, like they do in wow.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.12 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf
Gallente space... Saturday night... almost every 0.5 system checked.. No Kernite.
Nuff said.
Perhaps that's because there's no Kernite in Gal space?
Just guessing here.
Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when backdoor bandit is in local.
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Big Al
Another Lame Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.12 20:12:00 -
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If you would like to do something about it check out the link in my sig. Currently only supporting the war against mackinaws and hulks.
Kill a farmer, win some isk! |

Ildryn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.12 20:35:00 -
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Ive almost single handedly chased the macro miners out of Suroken....Just keep stealing their ore everytime you are online....eventually they will write off the system and move on.
I havent had a single macro miner aggro me yet....though I continue to hope they will one day.
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Kumu Honua
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Posted - 2006.11.12 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf
Gallente space... Saturday night... almost every 0.5 system checked.. No Kernite.
Nuff said.
Yep. Kernite is not found in Gallente Space.
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Itoz
Gallente Shiva
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Posted - 2006.11.13 19:56:00 -
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If they are Chinese macro miners is there a way to report them to the Chinese government, they don't like it when thier people get out into the real internet
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jokerb
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.13 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpians this has to stop now! iv changed system 3 times in last week all to be invaded by diffrent groups of macro miners iv seen group of 20 a group of 10 and another of 8 in all my bases. i cant mine enywhere enymore becouse ether its in use or macros invade. this has to stop now i cant even build enymore becouse the best have no ore to mine. i vote there shuld be monitering softwere installed into eve to track and check background programs for hacks and macro softwere. this has to stop now! its ruind my production team in my corp.
I have a novel idea for you. KILL THEM!!!!!!!
'but wah what about Concord Joker, wah?'
Suicide them a few times and they will leave. IF you are not up to the task then you must leave and stop whining. This game is about using your brain not your whine box, now get on the macrointel channel and get some help. no more posting silliness, be proactive not whineactive 
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Elgar Lightfoot
Lightfoot Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.13 20:55:00 -
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Start using the right names people. You only look like idiots when you keep calling them macroers.
FARMERS.
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Sean Dillon
Caldari Snakes in a Pod
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Posted - 2006.11.13 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Deitre Cibrus Uhm, NO. Just say NO. This isn't WoW. I don't want a Warden watching me.
Your a noob.
There is a guy with a post in crime and punishements that gives prizes out for every macro miner kill in mackinaws and hulks. You should check it out, I made 100 million isk from a macro gang yesterday. Counting the guy's bounty+sales from loot.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Elgar Lightfoot Start using the right names people. You only look like idiots when you keep calling them macroers.
FARMERS.
Which aren't against the EULA, so nothing to be done.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.13 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf
Gallente space... Saturday night... almost every 0.5 system checked.. No Kernite.
Nuff said.
Perhaps that's because there's no Kernite in Gal space?
Just guessing here.
LOL, next we know macro's are responsible for how Amarr look...
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ghosttr
Amarr Universal Annhilation
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Posted - 2006.11.13 21:27:00 -
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Just make all chinese ip's go to the chinese server, most of the farmers are chinese anyways. I don't have a problem with authority... ...as long as it doesn't get in my way. |

Anew Tactic
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Posted - 2006.11.13 21:43:00 -
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I am sorry to hear that you have experienced this problem. However, I can honestly say after Months! Of mining I have never been invited into a Gang in order to mine. Basically I mine exclusively too as my ômainö character is really only set up to mine.
Yes this is kind of boring and I have trying to make some new characters but is difficult with ôonly training one character at a timeö. And No I donÆt use a Macro, its all me!
In the months I have mined I have had to move constantly from system to system [sometimes even jumping 26 systems in order to mine in a good area]. You seem to be complaining about a 3 system jump?
Truthfully I think we need to look more at CCP for the issues and problems than the players or player actions themselves.
Currently when you look at this game or the map only about 20%-25% of it is even being used by the population. Mostly due to the lame Ganker Rules and Gate Camps that CCP apparently condones and allows. Odd rules in fact for a game where it can take you days, weeks or even months in order to save up enough ISK to get what you need to play just to be lost in an MMO.
The truth of the matter is; we need breathing room! The map has gotten too small and is extremely dangerous if not just unattainable in the other 75% that the players donÆt use.
1. -75% of the map cannot be used by the average player [and if the in-game map is any indicator] the vast majority of players actually.
2. -Concord is either too effective, or totally ineffective and or, nonexistent. Its either On or Off and there is no GRAY area to work with or slowly introduce players into PvP.
3. -Spawn Camping is Allowed in EVE, and CCP has done nothing that I can seen in the many years its been around to even try to prevent it.
These are just three quick and easy examples of some of the issues plaguing the game. MacroÆs are the least of the problems for EVE and the solutions for them are simple and easy.
That is part of the problem with developers actually. They forget to keep it simple and overanalyze any and all situations. They get stuck in Development Mode [if you will] and forget the KISS rules. *Keep It Simple Stupid.
Solution to Macro Miners;
TURN OFF CONCORD RANDOMLY FOR 10-15 MINUTES, FOUR TO FIVE TIMES A DAY!
Let the players PURGE the game of them.
If the problems still persists- -Increase the time and regularity of Concord being offline or off finding donuts. KISS.
Sometimes when these developers get off in Development Mode they forget about all of us, and only look at code.
The players of EVE are one of the greatest solution to the vast majority of the issue within the game if you know how to see the solution.
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Phoenix Lonestar
Litanies of Hate
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Posted - 2006.11.13 21:54:00 -
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Macroers come after the lag and login queues in terms of "need to be dealt with" priority, imho.
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