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Kolwrath	Posted - 2006.11.21 20:06:00 - [121] Quote: A real pirate doesn't just sit at one gate, at a sniper spot (or not), and wait for a ship (by chance) to warp to 15km, so they can ***them silly. A real pirate chases his pray, and kills him/her. This warp to 0km will just allow the newer players without bookmarks to have the same chance as you at warping to a gate at 0km. Nobody should have instas, no matter how old they are. 100isk says he has a whole wack of instas. Quote: And I fail to see the point of how removing all bookmarks and keeping warp-in to 15km is going to make the game better. Clearly. Wow great counter argument. I am speachless. Quote: All this does is allow your pray to have the same chance as YOU, and if you can't hack that, then I guess we'll all say goodbye to those of you who refuse to adapt. Refuse to adapt to what? Uhhh I am guessing he was refering to change. Just a shot in the dark. Quote:** Oh, and that comment about CCP caving into people whining about wanting WTZ? Why should they cave into people whining against WTZ? Because CCP designed Eve to not have WTZ. I'm defending the integrity of CCP's game even if they won't. Wow this is rich. Please get off the soap box. "Integrety"? Its a just a game ... not an idealogical movement. Please go outside once in a while.
Turin Caldari RONA Deepspace Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.11.21 20:21:00 - [122] Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 13/11/2006 13:21:16 Originally by: Thor Xian All CCP does is cave to the loud and lazy vocal majority, slowly but surely on all issues. I think you have been the definite loudest and most crazy one. :) Not sure why you dont realize that its very possible that people will just quit the game if ccp just killed instas with no replacement. Then you can sit there with half the population and slowboat to the gates... CCP made the right business choice, and I think its even good for the game too (in more than a massive performance boost), even if you dont see it yet. I think every single one of the pro WTZ people just plain can't see the big picture. Eve is a better game for everyone without it and instas. Personally. I think your opinion on the matter really sucks. I have ready several of your posts now on this topic and I just dont simply see your point of view here. I can understand your points. I just dont agree with them. The negative impact on the game would be FAR greater by removing BM's all together with no substitue. ________________________________________________________
Paladineguru Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.21 21:24:00 - [123] Quote: Because CCP designed Eve to not have WTZ. I'm defending the integrity of CCP's game even if they won't Actually your completely wrong there. warp to 0 was an original feature of beta first second and third stage. ie they didnt put in new code for it , they just finally turned it on. oh and btw travel time matters in one way you refuse or wont consider while whining ur gate ganking is being forced to the other side of the gate FUN the hardcore players in this game with 30-50 hours a week are a minority. this means that most of the other 90 percent of us with only an hour or two to play ( can i get a amen from the married folks with wives ) shouldnt have to spend our 7 hours a week traveling, if i wanted to be on the ******* road that much id go back to work or start playing a driving or flight sim. I for one know that if i had to spend most of my time traveling to catch up to the gang thats usually roaming in a diff location every day I would quit, if its within 2-3 regions you should be able to get there within 15 min. for me that leaves about an hour and a half of decent pvp, isking etc.. oh and btw ccp never caved on insta bookmarks either those were also a feature of beta. and it was pretty obvious from day one if you wanted to land on a gate what you had to do you should spend some time looking up the actualy gameplay and vids of the beta and first years of eve, maybe then youll have an opinion thats based on fact instead of the fiction in your head.
X ChaosX Trogdor the Burninator Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.21 22:08:00 - [124] Originally by: Splagada ah ok then no change... just like handing out a complete set of gate to gate BMs to everyone Wrong. Its handing out a complete set of gate to gate, belt to gate, planet to gate and safespot to gate instas to everyone. ___ Originally by: Bill Shankly i see your another one of those lousy pirates that cant fight fair and call yourself apvper, what a joke u are. Don't represent corp or alliance blah blah
Nir Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.11.21 22:36:00 - [125] I think these changes are great. They're not ideal but at least CCP are doing something. Anyway my thoughts on warp-to-zero: If database lag was the problem caused by bookmarks, how is warp to zero going to solve anything? Multiple Safespots Tactical BMs Fleet BMs Sniping BMs Scouting BMs I'd bet the above still account for a HUGE amount of Bookmarks. Even if you take every BM in a 20km radius from a gate or station out of the equasion, will it really change anything?
Locke DieDrake Human Information Virus	Posted - 2006.11.21 22:40:00 - [126] OH NOES!!! the game is being ruined!!!!111!!11!1! Anyone else remember these same sentiments when autopilot was added? Or when Missles were nerfed? Or when drones were nerfed? Or countless other times before. The typical twits scream and cry and threaten to quit. Then they adapt, or they leave. Don't get so exicted, it's bad for your blood preasure. ______________________________________________ Such a heavy burden now to be the one Born to bear and bring to all The details of our ending
Benglada Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.21 23:42:00 - [127] Interdiction bubbles need to be useable in empire now, even if Mobile disruptors arent. Huge. Piracy. Nerf. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
LWMaverick Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.21 23:53:00 - [128] Originally by: Benglada Interdiction bubbles need to be useable in empire now, even if Mobile disruptors arent. Huge. Piracy. Nerf. ^^ Warp to 15k & Removing of all gate bookmarks = Win ... Instead of this 0km bs! <3
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.22 01:10:00 - [129] Originally by: Paladineguru warp to 0 was an original feature of beta first second and third stage. ie they didnt put in new code for it , they just finally turned it on. Why do you think they killed it in beta? On accident? ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." "It is better to die by my Autocannon, than to live for your Veldspar."
Paladineguru Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.22 02:07:00 - [130] Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Paladineguru warp to 0 was an original feature of beta first second and third stage. ie they didnt put in new code for it , they just finally turned it on. Why do you think they killed it in beta? On accident? well what they told us is that they thought making us fly 15km behind it and mark the exact astronavigational point was more realistic. ofc that was befoer 30k active people with 80 percent of them using bm's that take up and use server rescources.
Sally Caldari R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:03:00 - [131] I dont care for WTZ, but reducing lag is a great thing. So its definitly a right move from CCP. -- Stories: #1 --
Rodrigo Sarn	Posted - 2006.11.22 20:34:00 - [132] Ok, that's a good reason for warp to 0 IF it noticeably cuts down lag. But to allow for some gatecamping, why don't they just have a mandatory time queue? As an added benefit, systems that are full could have longer queues going in than other systems (and shorter queues out).
MissileRus	Posted - 2006.11.22 20:53:00 - [133] Originally by: Valan Lose the warp to 0. But implement warp to any object you can see. soo love that idea over warp to 0... you warp to 15km like normal, but you can warp to 0km after you arrived, if your targeted/aggroed you cant warp to objects in close space aka other ships/gates etc. not usable in deadspace ofc --------------------------- 4. i like pizza
Pang Grohl Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.22 22:50:00 - [134] No longer do I get to thrill at out running the gate snipers... Those juicy low sec ores are now in reach... Now everyone will be using my short cut through the woods, because they built an effing expressway on it... Yay! for exploits becoming game mechanics.[/sarcasm] Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)

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