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Fortior STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:19:00 - [1] Quote: Razor: Tell me about Warp to 0 km. Magnus: It's coming. We will remove any bookmark you personally have that is within 40 km of a celestial object, because you no longer need them. Bookmarks are a major problem, the are the cause of a lot of the lag that you experience. There is an incredible amount of bookmark copying taking place in the game, and the stress it puts on the database is enormous. It's more stressful than any other single activity in the game. We will also put a limit on the number of bookmarks that a person can have in the game. See for yourselves http://razorwire.warcry.com/
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:22:00 - [2] Fine, as long as they solve the ctrl-q madness along with it. That may not be a stress on the server, but it most certainly is a stress on the gameplay. Old blog
Voculus E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:26:00 - [3] Can't wait.
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:31:00 - [4] A pity. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/Badomen88/StormerWOMBSigCopy.png Limits for signatures are 400x120 pixels and 24,000 bytes. Please fix your signature. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Dwaine Dibley	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:36:00 - [5] Originally by: Rod Blaine Fine, as long as they solve the ctrl-q madness along with it. That may not be a stress on the server, but it most certainly is a stress on the gameplay. Could you fill me in on this please?
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:39:00 - [6] cant wait ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:40:00 - [7] <3 --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Jodicamar	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:40:00 - [8] Now what about them "Billions" of iskies spent on getting the upperhand with BM's thats going to get deleted.
Tundaar Minmatar Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:41:00 - [9] Hmmm - does that mean BM's near stations as well (don't have access to Eve right now - can't remember If a Station is a "Celestial Object"). If so - no more "Instadocking"
Mongo Smith Amarr	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:47:00 - [10] Originally by: Tundaar Hmmm - does that mean BM's near stations as well (don't have access to Eve right now - can't remember If a Station is a "Celestial Object"). If so - no more "Instadocking" You can warp to 0 to a station (at least that's how it is on the test server)
Varis Jericho Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:49:00 - [11] Edited by: Varis on 13/11/2006 12:52:32 oh well.. time to adjust .... Might go buy a freighter now :) (yeah, its warp to 0 for anything (stations, cans, asteroids etc etc)
Spanker	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Tundaar Hmmm - does that mean BM's near stations as well (don't have access to Eve right now - can't remember If a Station is a "Celestial Object"). If so - no more "Instadocking" I'd wager my third leg that we'll get a 0km option for warping to stations too. - Shpank
Admiral Pieg Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:50:00 - [13] Originally by: Jodicamar Now what about them "Billions" of iskies spent on getting the upperhand with BM's thats going to get deleted. What about them? You got the upper hand for the period that you had them, bookmarks have been an issue for ages and their removal has been imminent, anyone that bought them must have known they were only a temporary solution. ______________ Pod from above.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:53:00 - [14] rofl i will never find my pos'es :p ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:57:00 - [15] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 13/11/2006 12:58:05 Never mind. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Makhan	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:57:00 - [16] I have to wonder-How will mission runners collect loot? Will we just have to collect all the loot before closing out the mission? Blah, I prefered closing the mission and warping to bm'd cans in the different rooms.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:59:00 - [17] Originally by: Makhan I have to wonder-How will mission runners collect loot? Will we just have to collect all the loot before closing out the mission? Blah, I prefered closing the mission and warping to bm'd cans in the different rooms. a cloaked transport in the team! ------ relaxed corp looking for members
K8 T	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:04:00 - [18] Originally by: Splagada a cloaked transport in the team! What "team".. all missions currently ingame can be solo'd including all L4 missions, why would you need a "team" to do anything?
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:07:00 - [19] well theyll still be soloable but not fully lootable without a team then :p ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Splagada rofl i will never find my pos'es :p POSes aren't celestial objects and tend to be situated 1,000km+ from the nearest celestial (the moon). I think. - EVE is sick.
Allen Deckard Gallente WTB Supplies	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:10:00 - [21] Originally by: Makhan I have to wonder-How will mission runners collect loot? Will we just have to collect all the loot before closing out the mission? Blah, I prefered closing the mission and warping to bm'd cans in the different rooms. So bm the can it's not a celestal object. Whats your point.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:11:00 - [22] ah ok then no change... just like handing out a complete set of gate to gate BMs to everyone ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:11:00 - [23] Originally by: Allen Deckard Originally by: Makhan I have to wonder-How will mission runners collect loot? Will we just have to collect all the loot before closing out the mission? Blah, I prefered closing the mission and warping to bm'd cans in the different rooms. So bm the can it's not a celestal object. Whats your point. People confuse Warp to 0 with removal of the entire bookmark system for some reason. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:14:00 - [24] My faith in CCP will be much weaker if this change actually does happen. Instas should be removed, but there should be no replacement. Insta Addiction is a problem and its hurting the game (whether you admit it or not). The fix is just more of the same except easier, faster, and with less effort. I'm looking forward to a game dev company that actually stands up for themselves on their game's design principles. All CCP does is cave to the loud and lazy vocal majority, slowly but surely on all issues. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Makhan	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:19:00 - [25] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Allen Deckard Originally by: Makhan I have to wonder-How will mission runners collect loot? Will we just have to collect all the loot before closing out the mission? Blah, I prefered closing the mission and warping to bm'd cans in the different rooms. So bm the can it's not a celestal object. Whats your point. People confuse Warp to 0 with removal of the entire bookmark system for some reason. Oh, My mistake then. Thought we couldn't even make bms after the change.
Varis Jericho Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:20:00 - [26] Thor - we had this argument for the last few weeks. we lost So they get their supercharged-free-instas.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Makhan Oh, My mistake then. Thought we couldn't even make bms after the change. Lots of people before you have figured the same thing, so dont worry. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:20:00 - [28] Originally by: Thor Xian All CCP does is cave to the loud and lazy vocal majority, slowly but surely on all issues. I think you have been the definite loudest and most crazy one. :) Not sure why you dont realize that its very possible that people will just quit the game if ccp just killed instas with no replacement. Then you can sit there with half the population and slowboat to the gates... CCP made the right business choice, and I think its even good for the game too, even if you dont see it yet. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:25:00 - [29] The first day this goes live, im going to Jita to sit at a gate. I want to see how many players that simply dont get the fact that they can warp right up to the gate. Of course they may be on autopilot... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:26:00 - [30] Autopilot? To Jita? NO WAI! - EVE is sick.

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