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Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:50:00 - [1] $10 a year is practically free, and it sounds like they've got some **** nice features in there. As much as I'll miss hearing people say 'whoops I crashed', I can live without VOIP outside the game. ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:01:00 - [2] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 13/11/2006 16:02:20 Originally by: LordofthePings Edit: Someone point out these "nice features" to me please. Because so far all I see is pitfalls and negative points. I want to be able to use VOIP, really I do but not with the current audio quality. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=422023 This > All if it delivers what is promised ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:56:00 - [3] To summarise the 'anti' side: "The voice chat is bad because I don't know what it will offer, think it will have limitations which it actually won't, and refuse to pay the bank-breaking figure of $10 a year for something I won't be using 24/7." ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 03:38:00 - [4] This thread has reached new highs for Eve players complaining about something they know sweet **** all about. Congratulations to you all. ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 04:05:00 - [5] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Xorus The kali VOIP will easily be worth the $10 fee, the reason the quality is bad at present is because its running off the test server instead of a Vivox server just so they can work on client integration so ignore it if its bad :) Yes, paying for a lower quality service than I can already host for free, that doesnt work in between server crashes, downtime and client crashes... **** that sounds like a bargain!! You can host a fully game-integrated voice service? Thought not. This thread makes me homicidalÖ ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 04:11:00 - [6] Originally by: w0rmy Considering I run one of this countrys largest ISP's and have more handware available to use than CCP owns... Why yes, yes I can host it. Then go do it, I don't want to have to wait for kali for this. ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 12:04:00 - [7] CCP should: Make this mandatory for the game to function (but still charge for it) Make it ***your soundsystem so no other voice comms software will work while Eve is running Never allow it to function outside Eve Tell the players to shut the ** up Just once I'd love to see them do something like this. In fact, I'd like to see them do this every time the playerbase whines about new features which they don't even have to use if they don't want to, but that is even less likely to even happen. ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 12:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Crumplecorn Whaaaaambulance Funny, id say youre ranked among the top 5 whiners in this topic. At least, I'd be number one if I had more time to watch the topic. But I'm whining about the whiners, not the product ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 13:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 14/11/2006 13:02:49 Originally by: Nate D Originally by: evistin I am not being mean, I am being realistic, no matter how many features the voice system has, it can't beat the sheer flexability of TS and vent in the long run. If EVE voice can do everything that TS/Vent can do... and a lot more... And it takes out all the hassle that goes with TS/Vent... How is it any less flexable? Your logic understand I don't... -NateÖ NATE Please show me where I can connect to vivox when NOT running the EVE client. IE: If I'm in Guild Wars... can I be connected? No, I cannot. Thus it is not as flexible. Period... end of discussion... That is not inflexibility, that is it being a different product. IG VOIP!=OOG VOIP. If you want to be connected to the VOIP server but not the game, it isn't in-game voice comms your looking for, is it? So how can you complain that in-game voice comms has this 'problem'. ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 13:30:00 - [10] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 14/11/2006 13:07:31 Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Crumplecorn Whaaaaambulance Funny, id say youre ranked among the top 5 whiners in this topic. At least, I'd be number one if I had more time to watch the topic. But I'm whining about the whiners, not the product In the end its still whining. Edit: I WANT FEMALE VOICE MASKS SO I CAN CYBER PEOPLE AND THEN LAUGH AT THEM AS I TURN OFF THE VOICE MASK, HAR HAR HAR HAR. a) Yes. Yes it is. b) No. Just no. Really, no. ---------- IBTL \o/

Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 14:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Taram Caldar So why would we switch to it? Most of the 'improvements' are unique to EVE only which is ok... but they don't justify a fee for a service most players already get through their alliances free of charge. Why would anyone pay for something they alredy get free? What about this service justifies a 1,000% increase in fees over it's competition? Nothing. It offers a few in-game widgets that are, while useful, completely un-necessary to the average player. So there's no reason for the average player to get it. Thus not everyone will have it, which further lowers it's value. The only situation in which TS/Vent are better is outside Eve, which is a pretty pointless scenario to look at when you are discussing in-game voice comms. Forget about wanting to talk to people outside the game, forget about playing other games, this is part of Eve and in Eve it does more than any other product can because it is integrated. Is it worth the price? I think so, but that's not what I'm arguing about anyway. Will it succeed or fail dismally? I don't know. All I'm saying is, the argument that you already get this for free with TS/Vent is wrong. You don't. You can't. Apples and oranges. As for the argument that it is useless unless everyone signs up for it, that is *******s of the highest order. Not only do I myself get along with virtually no TS/Vent usage, I have seen many people who haven't even heard of them when first invited to a VOIP session, and I've even seen someone who refuses to use them. There are some situations where voice comms are preferable obviously, and in these situtions it's generally a case of get TS/Vent or get out. But if (and I stress if) this delivers the wonderous gang stuff it is supposed to that makes life so much easier for fleet commaders, the people who want to stick with TS/Vent will probably be told to sod off as much as the people who won't download TS/Vent. If a few people refuse to sign up for it all they will do is limit themselves. All that matters is the majority. ---------- IBTL \o/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 14:50:00 - [12] Originally by: evistin but considering 99% of the community gets it for free anyway.... Crumplecorn twitches slightly, a glazed expression comes over his eyes, and he wanders slowly out the door ---------- IBTL \o/

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