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Rorix Whitecloud
Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.14 09:30:00 -
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good story... a little sad, but a good story never the less.
Repopulate Low Security!
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D2O HeavyWater
Synergy.
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Posted - 2006.11.14 10:47:00 -
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A pleasent read indeed.
Keep em comming helps pass the time at work.
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Maze La'Zie
Caldari Technology La'Zie
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Posted - 2006.11.14 13:21:00 -
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Good stuff - I think this is the best of the new Chronicles.
I appreciate the subtleties and the way you explain the game mechanics, whilst keeping it very human. ________________________ Chief Scientific Officer Technology La'Zie |
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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2006.11.14 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Solan I can see a metaphor between Jon/Bob and CCP/Big Business. I think I may use this story as an example for many in the corporate world.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Definite read for anyone in the corporate world too. Puts everything in perspective as an extreme of "work over play".
The corporate metaphor is there, certainly (and the fact that the story was published right after the merger announcement is quite a happy coincidence ). On a more personal level, the story reflects a lesson learned after years of working for various companies, and more specifically, working with people deeply mired in this kind of fearful stagnation. CCP, obviously, breaks the mould; my main concern here is keeping up.
Originally by: Beringe Probably a fine balance between increasing immersion and breaking it, if you know what I mean. "Tech 1 BP" as technical shorthand was laying it on a bit thick.
A fine balance, definitely. When it comes to using EVE lingo, there are several things I have to keep in mind.
First, it has to sound realistic, and as far as I'm concerned, realism implies short, snappy phrases. That goes double for techspeak, and so I had the characters talk about "tech 1" and "tech 2" instead of "class one technology", in much the same way that you'd say, "I lost my Scorpion" or even "I lost my Scorp," instead of, "I lost my Scorpion-class battleship."
Second, it has to be appropriate to the situation at hand. If you're, say, giving a speech to your shareholders, of course you'll use formal language. But if you're holding a special meeting with one old man who's scared and intimidated, and if you've already plowed through the same presentation for everyone else in the company, it's unlikely you'll resort to flowery phrases. You'll keep things short and understandable.
Third, it has to serve a purpose. In this case, that purpose was to elucidate the transition from tech 1 to tech 2 that invention will allow. The more formal I get in describing this transition, the less likely it is that the reader will understand how it applies to him. I could get away with "agglomerations of design patterns", because that particular bit wasn't directly relevant to gameplay. But "tech 1" and "tech 2" needed to stand out, clear as day.
This is the intention. YMMV, obviously.
Originally by: Maze La'Zie I appreciate the subtleties and the way you explain the game mechanics, whilst keeping it very human.
Thanks. That pretty much nailed what I was trying to say above.
Originally by: Victor Valka I found a typo. Can I keep it?
Arrrgh. Fixed. Thanks.
Originally by: zeKzn I'm not quite sure why, but I liked it the least of your stories so far. I think it probably had to do with the fact there was no horror, blood, or drug taking
The next story will be fairly tame, though it'll have some darkly humorous touches in the vein of "Saccade". While horror remains my favourite genre, I want to explore as many moods in my fiction as I can.
But ye gods, the things I've got planned for December...
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Micia
Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.14 18:58:00 -
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Mondays in general have become a lot better, since these weekly new stories started. _______
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Gloria Pao
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Posted - 2006.11.14 19:13:00 -
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Well, I'm glad to see the canon literature being expanded in any case. Still, I'm not sure I'm really sprining for these, Abraxas. I get them, they just don't really get me. Nevertheless, of course, I'm hardly the only person playing/reading, and most folks seem very positive.
However, I will agree with at least one poster above that some of the 'game lingo' got very awkward in this chronicle. In my own humble opinion, it's not necessary to have characters in the story apologize for speaking like players. After all, the players are playing characters in the story. It ends up drawing more attention to the disjunct instead of taking it away.
Just my own advice. And I admit that I'm not the one that CCP lined up to do weekly chronicles .
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Phelan Boots
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.14 19:22:00 -
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Excellent stories abraxas. I love the darker humor in them.
So when is your EVE novel coming out?
Quote: info It's not a good idea to place an Exotic Dancer in a Giant Secure Container. The Exotic Dancer will not survive intact, if transported in such a container.
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.11.14 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Micia Mondays in general have become a lot better, since these weekly new stories started.
Yeah I put this into a nice pdf to be readable. I print em out and read them on the train journey back home. ___
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Beringe
Caldari Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas
This is the intention. YMMV, obviously.
Well, it worked in this story. Quite well, actually.
Of course, since it made me feel so bad for Robert, I may never decide to do the whole invention thing... ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:07:00 -
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MAN you guys rock!!!
Keep em coming
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2006.11.15 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy TenKreds on 15/11/2006 13:33:04
Liked it man, although this chronicle adds less than it could have done to the core canon surrounding Tech 2.
More rp explanation of what makes T2 distinct from T1 and the politics, regulations and competition governing T2 development would have been great. You could also have added some rp context for all the research agents out there conducting huge numbers of pilot-sponsored T2 projects and getting no results. Maybe this stuff was already covered in another chronicle and I missed it?
Originally by: Ask Ninja Kill all the wolves you're gonna have a crapload of bunnies, and by bunnies I mean stupid people. |
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:19:00 -
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Abraxas scares me.
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:48:00 -
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I liked everything except the style of the new image. I'm going to be stagnant and say the old picture style was better. This one is just a little too...abstract.
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Hablacraja
Relic Defense Initiative The OSS
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Posted - 2006.11.16 02:05:00 -
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I suppose I was the only one that got a laugh out of this chronicle, especially the reference to the invention slide.
I guess few people read that dev blog then.
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Frug
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.16 11:34:00 -
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Great story. It doesn't need blood and horror. There are a commas that should go though.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.16 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Winterblink on 16/11/2006 17:21:05 You know... I really like the mood of these latest chronicles. There's a really subtle depth to them that draws you in. Very skillful.
*rubs hands and gets back to finishing off some more ENV parts*
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:29:00 -
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Hm. It was good, but I didn't love it, as I did the one about the baby rogue drone.
I'm also going to agree that the old style of illustration was better. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Gloria Pao In my own humble opinion, it's not necessary to have characters in the story apologize for speaking like players. After all, the players are playing characters in the story.
It depends on the circumstances, I'd say. The kind of language that, say, a gatecamper uses probably wouldn't be suitable for a board meeting. I see your point, but remember that while the players are part of EVE lore, and a powerful one at that, they're a class unto themselves and don't have much to do with other people in EVE, so there isn't much sharing of class-specific terms. The characters in "The Shrinking Skin" aren't capsuleers and aren't likely to have much contact with them outside the requirements for their profession, and so are unlikely to have adopted capsuleer lingo.
That's not to mention that the speaker is (a) a young man recently employed to the company in question, and is holding a presentation that includes the CEO, and (b) speaking to someone who's already frightened and insecure, and needs to get certain information through to him in a clear fashion without having it sound like techbabble. Under those circumstances, it's to be expected that he'd make specific mention of the language he's using.
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds Liked it man, although this chronicle adds less than it could have done to the core canon surrounding Tech 2.
Yes, it does. Each piece has some primary function - this one, for instance, highlights invention - and my focus is always on that particular function, along with telling a good story. If I see a chance to add background on something else, I'll do it, but only if it doesn't affect the narrative and the pacing. There's only so much exposition you can shove in there before the story starts to turn into an infodump.
Originally by: CCP Ginger Abraxas scares me.
I know where you live.
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Oreh Anavrin
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.11.19 03:04:00 -
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I'd just like to say i really enjoyed the story and glad to see the author responding to all the questions, good to see that our opinions do matter :D
Also someone mentioned stories every week? That true, if so nice
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2006.11.20 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy TenKreds on 20/11/2006 01:47:42
Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds Liked it man, although this chronicle adds less than it could have done to the core canon surrounding Tech 2.
Yes, it does. Each piece has some primary function - this one, for instance, highlights invention - and my focus is always on that particular function, along with telling a good story. If I see a chance to add background on something else, I'll do it, but only if it doesn't affect the narrative and the pacing. There's only so much exposition you can shove in there before the story starts to turn into an infodump.
Yeah, I take your point well Abraxas. There is precious little background in this area though and I would like to see more sense made of it for rp purposes. Perhaps a short story would give you more room? Or, perhaps there is a place for a more encyclopeadic form of literary background to flesh out areas of game lore like this? Just a thought.
Originally by: Ask Ninja Kill all the wolves you're gonna have a crapload of bunnies, and by bunnies I mean stupid people. |
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