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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1105
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Posted - 2015.06.15 11:41:21 -
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I'm running a mining link gnosis with 2 prospects for 25k m-¦ total and linked cycles, the Gnosis just drops a few k m-¦ each run for the prospects :D
The 10k m-¦ gas hold is totally worth the premium. And the 1mil for a venture or 15 for a prospect, that's not a price difference you can use as a good basis, given the cheapest possible fit is already 8mil for the venture and ~11mil for the prospect.
So realistically: A 10mil venture with a 5k hold or a 25mil prospect with a 10k hold that doesn't care for sabres and scouts for your gnosis. Hardly a hard choice. |
Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
248
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Posted - 2015.06.15 12:17:38 -
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And...OP...you didn't know all this before you began training?
I survived Win95
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
526
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Posted - 2015.06.15 13:15:40 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:I'm running a mining link gnosis with 2 prospects for 25k m-¦ total and linked cycles, the Gnosis just drops a few k m-¦ each run for the prospects :D
The 10k m-¦ gas hold is totally worth the premium. And the 1mil for a venture or 15 for a prospect, that's not a price difference you can use as a good basis, given the cheapest possible fit is already 8mil for the venture and ~11mil for the prospect.
So realistically: A 10mil venture with a 5k hold or a 25mil prospect with a 10k hold that doesn't care for sabres and scouts for your gnosis. Hardly a hard choice.
For a starting pilot, the Venture is more cost-efficient, but yes - one should eventually be upgrading to the Prospect.
It would appear, Mr Dracon wasn't quite ready for such an upgrade.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK. Gÿ+
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Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
110
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Posted - 2015.06.15 14:30:21 -
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It's sad that thing doesn't have an exhumer like additional gas mining bonus. |
Soldarius
Naliao Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
1309
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Posted - 2015.06.15 14:44:39 -
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Tomb Ovaert wrote:Brian Harrelstein wrote:Last time I tried gas harvesting, I got bubbled and podded by a sabre. Cloak + MWD trick bru.
Gas Miner II range is 1500m. Decloak range is 2000m. Good luck cloaking while within decloak range of the gas cloud.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Mysa
Alekhine's Gun The Periphery
41
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Posted - 2015.06.15 14:57:22 -
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Van Dracon wrote:Is this some sort of a joke.
1 - "leveling"
SoloFoLife!
-KEKE the Merlin wonder
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
526
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Posted - 2015.06.15 14:59:56 -
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Soldarius wrote:Tomb Ovaert wrote:Brian Harrelstein wrote:Last time I tried gas harvesting, I got bubbled and podded by a sabre. Cloak + MWD trick bru. Gas Miner II range is 1500m. Decloak range is 2000m. Good luck cloaking while within decloak range of the gas cloud.
While traveling, of course.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK. Gÿ+
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Hipqo
Project AIice Whatever.
126
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Posted - 2015.06.15 15:05:16 -
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If you fit the prospect with ECCM, you can make it almost impossible to scan down, (requires full scanning skills and implants to get 100%) you can warp cloaked anywhere, you harvest gas slightly faster and you have twice the ore hold of the venture.
Whats not to like lol?
A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
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Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
1
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Posted - 2015.06.16 10:52:49 -
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one more old videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84LvbWaXKzY&list=PL9vf9h-pclqVPTnGxeP2hHpU-E4GNmI0F&index=2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYvW0qTj3hg&list=PL9vf9h-pclqVPTnGxeP2hHpU-E4GNmI0F&index=1
do not try repeat it home |
Vulpecula Borealis
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.06.16 11:20:40 -
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Van Dracon wrote:Is this some sort of a joke.
2 - Prospect frigate doesn't have any drone bays but the venture does go figure
Yes. This is pretty bad. It should have a flight of small drones. Even for ninjamining in lowsec or nullsec, it's not good. Your only defence is the cloak. |
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Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
1
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Posted - 2015.06.16 11:30:38 -
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Vulpecula Borealis wrote:Van Dracon wrote:Is this some sort of a joke.
2 - Prospect frigate doesn't have any drone bays but the venture does go figure
Yes. This is pretty bad. It should have a flight of small drones. Even for ninjamining in lowsec or nullsec, it's not good. Your only defence is the cloak. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5821198#post5821198 |
Anthar Thebess
1083
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Posted - 2015.06.16 11:32:05 -
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One can point and light covert cyno
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Violet Crumble
Funtime Factory
737
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Posted - 2015.06.16 11:42:21 -
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Yodik wrote:Vulpecula Borealis wrote:Van Dracon wrote:Is this some sort of a joke.
2 - Prospect frigate doesn't have any drone bays but the venture does go figure
Yes. This is pretty bad. It should have a flight of small drones. Even for ninjamining in lowsec or nullsec, it's not good. Your only defence is the cloak. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5821198#post5821198 I'm glad that approach works for you.
Looking at your killboard, you have quite a few Prospect losses, which is clearly no problem since I bet you're making more ISK than the ship and fit is worth anyway.
Being targeted by the rats prevents you from activating your covops cloak when other players arrive on grid. Each to their own and clearly as you show, there's more than one way to go about it.
Funtime Factory - We put the fun back in funtime
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Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
1
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Posted - 2015.06.16 11:55:04 -
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Violet Crumble wrote: I'm glad that approach works for you.
Looking at your killboard, you have quite a few Prospect losses, which is clearly no problem since I bet you're making more ISK than the ship and fit is worth anyway.
Being targeted by the rats prevents you from activating your covops cloak when other players arrive on grid. Each to their own and clearly as you show, there's more than one way to go about it.
there is 90% garantee, that no one come for loosing their battleship by sleepers, for now. |
Nicholas Kirk
GFL Gentlemen's.Parlor
2
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Posted - 2015.06.16 13:42:08 -
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Miles Parabellum wrote:I must admit, given the large difference in price and the small difference in performance, I have no idea why anybody would use a prospect. If one of you guys can enlighten me, that would be nice. Of course, I also tend to AFK gasmine with no implants (only once come back to the game, sitting in a station). this
I took one look at it and the skills involved and it came down to this
no extra mining boosts and ventures are pretty hard to catch as is when gas mining WHs Prospect is a failure |
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
1
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Posted - 2015.06.16 13:44:35 -
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Nicholas Kirk wrote:[quote=Miles Parabellum] Prospect is a failure +1, dont waste your time. |
Victor Emmanuel
Bearded BattleBears Brave Collective
5
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Posted - 2015.06.16 22:52:05 -
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Do the sleepers respawn after you clear a gas site?
Can the armor repped/speed tanked prospect tank frigate sized sleepers? |
Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
1
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Posted - 2015.06.17 09:08:30 -
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Victor Emmanuel wrote:Do the sleepers respawn after you clear a gas site?
Can the armor repped/speed tanked prospect tank frigate sized sleepers? nope |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
533
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:04:11 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:One can point and light covert cyno
Don't tell sekrets.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK. Gÿ+
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Nevil Oscillator
206
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Posted - 2015.06.17 16:28:01 -
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Anyone wanna buy some C540 ? |
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
38250
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Posted - 2015.06.17 16:36:40 -
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Nicholas Kirk wrote:no extra mining boosts and ventures are pretty hard to catch as is when gas mining WHs There is additional mining bonuses for a Prospect over the Venture. Up to +25% mining yield.
The reduction in sig radius is also a nice bonus.
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Moac Tor
Cy-Core Industries Stain Confederation
92
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Posted - 2015.06.17 18:04:16 -
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The Prospect is a different ship in many ways. I would favour the venture for some activities and the prospect for others.
A venture can't jump through a covert jump portal and fit a covert ops cloak though so that is a big difference right there.
Also if you are using drones to defend yourself your doing it wrong, on both the ships their sig radius is their best defence, and the prospect wins hands down in that regard. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13457
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Posted - 2015.06.17 18:31:06 -
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I honestly cannot imagine anyone complaining about the Prospect. That ship is totally nuts, especially for stealing gas. Yeah, it doesn't have drones or guns, but it absolutely does not need them.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Freya Sertan
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
185
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Posted - 2015.06.17 19:28:05 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I honestly cannot imagine anyone complaining about the Prospect. That ship is totally nuts, especially for stealing gas. Yeah, it doesn't have drones or guns, but it absolutely does not need them.
Seriously. I fly a Prospect on my indy character and it is insane. Covops cloak, gas hoovering, stupid fast align time, great yield on mining and a big ass ore bay. You don't need drones when you can cloak and GTFO.
New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.
Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13459
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Posted - 2015.06.17 21:05:04 -
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Freya Sertan wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I honestly cannot imagine anyone complaining about the Prospect. That ship is totally nuts, especially for stealing gas. Yeah, it doesn't have drones or guns, but it absolutely does not need them. Seriously. I fly a Prospect on my indy character and it is insane. Covops cloak, gas hoovering, stupid fast align time, great yield on mining and a big ass ore bay. You don't need drones when you can cloak and GTFO.
Exactly. What are two light drones going to save you from in wormhole space? A newbie ship?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters Disturbed Acquaintance
18621
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Posted - 2015.06.17 21:34:45 -
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Mining gas is only just slightly more fun than mining ice. ...and mining ice almost makes ripping your own toenails out with a pair of pliers seem pleasant. |
Nevil Oscillator
206
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Posted - 2015.06.17 21:43:27 -
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I quite often put ECM drones on my probe, I've yet to be in a situation where I have launched them but in the event I am attacked by something that takes more than 5 seconds to kill a probe I will know there is someone out there as brave as me. |
Freya Sertan
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
188
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Posted - 2015.06.17 23:15:07 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:Mining gas is only just slightly more fun than mining ice. ...and mining ice almost makes ripping your own toenails out with a pair of pliers seem pleasant.
Mining gas in a C6 wormhole with known activity in local is ANYTHING but boring.
ANYTHING.
New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.
Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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Yodik
Dwarfed ORE
4
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Posted - 2015.07.13 23:18:24 -
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i'm terribly sorry |
Flakey Foont
241
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Posted - 2015.07.13 23:48:47 -
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I love threads where guy says "I trained x months for x ship and then found out it has no x." Like that info is not available before you trained.
Yeah 2 light drones will save you...... |
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