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Princess Nexxala
Gallente
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
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Posted - 2006.11.14 14:30:00 -
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Tbh i am fed up of training a skill only to find on the forums that it is broken or has some fault.
Could i ask all to post here a list of skills they think may be broken, just so i can avoid them 
so far i have heard of:
Fast talk
Drone Navigation
any more?
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Sable Moran
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.14 14:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Princess Nexxala
Drone Navigation
This has been fixed AFAIK. Or at least I don't have any issues with my drones hitting and killing stuff.
Originally by: Princess Nexxala
any more?
Black market trading has been mentioned a few times as having issues. Likewise other 'character creation only' skills have issues, like not having any effect what so ever. Biology is one of them but it will likely get fixed in kali 1 when the boosters a scheduled to hit TQ.
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Mangold
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.14 21:09:00 -
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Fast talk
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Hesod Adee
Bright New Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.14 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Nexxala
Drone Navigation
From what I've heard, if you keep Drone Sharpshooting at the same or a higher level to Drone Navigation you don' have any problems. But if you don't, the drones are moving too fast for their guns to track, but if you up the guns range you drop the angular velocity and the guns can hit again.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:38:00 -
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I've got drone navigation and sharpshooting at the same level. My drones have no problems hitting things.
Fast talk is highly debatable. I have seen posts where people produced the numbers to show it actually does work but +20% on a small bit is such a small bit it tends to fall away in the rounding in-game and as such is perceived as broken.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:52:00 -
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Black Market Trading apparently.
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Eewec Ourbyni
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.15 10:10:00 -
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Skills that are Listed in various places (due to being in the data drop) that you can't actually get or don't do anything to my knowledge:
CFO Training - Though I'm sure I've seen this on the market a time or two, so it may just be uber rare rather than unobtainable)
Mobile Refinery Operation
Mobile Factory Operation
Astronautic Engineering
Biology
Genetic Engineering
Mnemonics
Black Market Trading
As to functionally deficient skills... pass.
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RaTTuS
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:20:00 -
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Multitasking
has same info as
Targeting
i.e.
Skill at targeting multiple targets. +1 extra target per skill level, up to the ship's maximum allowed number of targets locked.
but only targeting works.
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Pottsey
Gallente
Acme Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.15 12:46:00 -
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Mutitasking works fine I use it all the time. It stacks on top of targeting.
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Scarlet Pimpernel
Clan Eshin
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:25:00 -
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The Mobile 'blah' Operation skills are still available in game because, despite being removed from market view, there is still a way to get them. (I believe it was originally intended that you needed these skills to use the appropriate POS structure)
Starbase tactical officer currently seems to have no function (the description doesnt tell you what it does so you might not consider it 'broken')
I have the Blackmarket Trading skill (from character creation) however since its never been published AFAIK what the default base chance of getting scanned by customs is and how the skill modifies this its a little difficult to work out if the skill does anything
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RaTTuS
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: RaTTuS on 15/11/2006 17:40:21
Aha does it .. ummm
dunno if I need to target more than I have...
you can no longer the get mobile [lab|factory] skills that way anymore
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JoeT
Amarr
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.11.15 21:41:00 -
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Fast Talk works for me so far...
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Snow Chainz
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Posted - 2006.11.15 23:38:00 -
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Hacking?
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Jasper De'tami
Gallente
Kvasir Technologies
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Posted - 2006.11.16 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Snow Chainz
Hacking?
I beleive it, and its related skills, are actually needed for some cosmos missions.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.11.16 00:20:00 -
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Level 5 (and only level 5) of Tactical Shield Manipulation
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Shoele Lialos
Gallente
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.11.16 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Snow Chainz
Hacking?
Works fine.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
CURSED LEGION OF DOOM
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.16 15:43:00 -
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All energy turret skills 
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U Fester
Amarr
dante's enterprises
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Posted - 2006.11.16 15:51:00 -
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Since I am still a newb in the game, what is a broken skill?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
CURSED LEGION OF DOOM
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.16 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: U Fester
Since I am still a newb in the game, what is a broken skill?
Thanks
A skill not working as intended or a useless skill
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U Fester
Amarr
dante's enterprises
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Posted - 2006.11.16 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: U Fester
Since I am still a newb in the game, what is a broken skill?
Thanks
A skill not working as intended or a useless skill
 Thanks
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Silvatico
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2006.11.17 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Current in-game description
Procurement
"Proficiency at placing remote buy orders on the market. Level 1 allows for the placement of orders within the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for placement of remote buy orders anywhere within current region.
"Note: placing buy orders and directly buying an item are not the same thing. Direct remote purchase requires no skill."
Right now it allows me to set remote buy orders only where there is already a sell order. Some CCP-person (Oveur, I think) acknowledged in chat (in Rens Local, if I recall correctly) a while ago (a year?) that the skill didn't do what it seemed like it should.
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Eisenhornx
Caldari
The Knighthawks
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Silvatico
Originally by: Current in-game description
Procurement
"Proficiency at placing remote buy orders on the market. Level 1 allows for the placement of orders within the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for placement of remote buy orders anywhere within current region.
"Note: placing buy orders and directly buying an item are not the same thing. Direct remote purchase requires no skill."
Right now it allows me to set remote buy orders only where there is already a sell order. Some CCP-person (Oveur, I think) acknowledged in chat (in Rens Local, if I recall correctly) a while ago (a year?) that the skill didn't do what it seemed like it should.
i have noticed, not sure if in kali test or TQ but i could do a search for item place buy order and choose station, im sure i did in in TQ, did it on T2 power relay
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Mr Krosis
Gallente
JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.22 05:00:00 -
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Re: Drone navigation/etc, I tested this a bit as I skilled up an alt about a month ago.
Drone navigation indeed works, and will increase both the MWD and orbit speed of your drones. Drone sharpshooting in its current form does not have any effect on your drones orbit range. I presume it does increase the optimal range, but optimal range != orbit range.
In theory, I would assume faster orbit range would make tracking more difficult for the drones, but this is a difficult thing to quantify. There was certainly no magic "stopped working" when my drone navigation was higher than my drone sharpshooting.
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Imechal Ravpeim
Amarr
International Multi-Player Consortium
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.22 10:30:00 -
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Sharpshooting only really makes a difference with sentry drones... and drone navigation only makes a difference on their approach.
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Restiana Hastura
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Posted - 2006.11.27 10:59:00 -
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The Drone Navigation skill is still broken.
If you put Drone Navigation Computer modules on your ship, they speed up the drones' orbit speed as well as their MWD speed, just like the Drone Navigation skill. If you fit three of these modules, the drones move about twice as fast as normal, and there is a very noticeable reduction in the amount of damage they do to small targets.
As to whether or not it's worth it to train the skill, that's not an easy question. The damage penalty isn't extreme, and faster drones spend less time moving between targets.
You can work around this problem by fitting one or more Omnidirectional Tracking Link modules, but those take up slots.
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