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Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2006.11.15 10:08:00 - [31] Yes Gnarrkilly... soon or later some of you will start to see through the veils of deception and dissapointment these Amarr "loyalists" dweels within. I hope more of you will come to your senses freeing yourselves from this auto imposed slavery amarr or not. The Sani Sabik will be glad to assist you in any ways you may need. Revan Neferis Verisum
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.11.15 11:25:00 - [32] Gnarrkilly and a few of those who have left the CVA were competent combat pilots. There is no doubt about that. However, they are a handful amongst many. The CVA as an organisation has been forged in war and there are many to take the place of Gnarrkilly and his merry band. It is not like this has not happened before. While I have respect for Gnarrkilly's abilities I have not much respect for the way he has handled his departure from an organisation which nurtured him and provided him with much support during his development as a combat pilot. Gnarrkilly and his band of defectors were often on the frontlines of CVA actions and we are grateful for their assistance. Yet Gnarrkilly and the malcontents who have joined him were always at the radical / impetuous end of the CVA - constantly seeking to pick fights and start conflict merely for the sake of combat. This went against the grain of the majority in the CVA - which afterall is a force for stability in Providence and low-sec Amarrian space. Our policy in dealing with neighbouring alliances and the neutrals who occupy our space has always been one of restrained diplomacy yet Gnarkilly always saw the slightest transgression as a cause for war. It was clear that he was becoming unhappy when it became evident that he was not going to change the CVA approach. To be honest his departure with a handful of other radicals has created a stronger CVA unified in view and in purpose. If Gnarrkilly wished to leave on good terms then he could have done so quite happily. Indeed many CVA pilots sent their best wishes with him when he announced his departure - yet his attention seeking post here clearly seeks to do damage to the CVA and is a clear sign of disloyalty. This backlash at those who gave him a home and support for so long is indicative of Gnarkilly's level of maturity and lack of diplomatic nouse. Gnarrkilly, while I respect your combat abilities, your continual perseverance and your work for the Amarr cause, whilst in the CVA, I would suggest that you and your disloyal band of turncoats leave the area and go and carve out your own name and reputation rather than seek to demean ours. Amarr Victor ------------------------------ Blog's back - for now
Camar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:46:00 - [33] Originally by: Gnarrkilly The only time I was planning on returning to CVA space is with a warfleet. I have really tried to resist the urge, but as you all know, Brutor blood is hard to calm once it starts to boil. Mr. Gnarrkilly, Fimbulwinter would welcome a new cell operating in the Providence region shooting at CVA if that would be your desire. I have no idea on where you are going or what you are planning to do, but I just HAD to make this statement smiles broadly I should be rather easy to come in contact with, otherwise Ryas Nia is mostly available as well for any "diplomatic" talks and/or to provide more information about how Fimbulwinter works.
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Camar Originally by: Gnarrkilly The only time I was planning on returning to CVA space is with a warfleet. I have really tried to resist the urge, but as you all know, Brutor blood is hard to calm once it starts to boil. Mr. Gnarrkilly, Fimbulwinter would welcome a new cell operating in the Providence region shooting at CVA if that would be your desire. I have no idea on where you are going or what you are planning to do, but I just HAD to make this statement smiles broadly I should be rather easy to come in contact with, otherwise Ryas Nia is mostly available as well for any "diplomatic" talks and/or to provide more information about how Fimbulwinter works. can you trust a turn-coat Camar? right now Fimbulwinter is an elite grouping of honor bound pilots...would it really be a smart move to add someone who can so easily turn on their former friends out of boredom and an inability to restrain their pirate urges? Do you think they wouldn't do the same to you or to the minmatar? Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think.
JediMaster Jay Amarr The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:31:00 - [35] Edited by: JediMaster Jay on 15/11/2006 14:36:02 But i am sorry to leave the cva and my pals behind but yes i am a war dog enjoy the fight i do not like to sit on my hands or hide i do not or will not get involved in silly smack talk i wish the cva all the best and still will searve the Empire just in my own way [URL=http://imageshack.us][/URL]
Jedi Darklord	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:55:00 - [36] Originally by: Hardin Gnarrkilly and his band of defectors were often on the frontlines of CVA actions and we are grateful for their assistance. Yet Gnarrkilly and the malcontents who have joined him were always at the radical / impetuous end of the CVA - constantly seeking to pick fights and start conflict merely for the sake of combat. Whilst having no desire to engage in this war of words i take great exception to being labelled a "radical", i would like to point out that most of my combat operations were in response to a CVA call to arms and not as part of a my so called radical ways. I have nothing but respect for the Spoonites and CVA but the continued lack of action against our enemies has been immensly frustrating, things came to an abrupt end when we are told "R3 is camped" because there happens to be 3 enemies sat in the system and the refusal of certain members of the CVA to respond to a proactive call to battle and the subsequent slating of Gnarr for trying to do something about it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. I like my brothers will defend a fellow corp member against all aggressers wether domestic or foreign and im sure you can at least appreciate my loyalty. --------------------------------------------------- T.E.T. Corporation."Brutality at it's Best"
Gnarrkilly The Tet Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:57:00 - [37] Quote: can you trust a turn-coat Camar? right now Fimbulwinter is an elite grouping of honor bound pilots...would it really be a smart move to add someone who can so easily turn on their former friends out of boredom and an inability to restrain their pirate urges? Do you think they wouldn't do the same to you or to the minmatar? Hold your tongue scum. You know nothing of honor or our reasons for leaving. We served CVA through thick and thin. I could quite easily have de-activated their structures, raided their vaults and treasuries and destroyed their alliance plus I would of never had to worry about ISK again, but no I wouldn't do that to them. Aralis leader of Imperial Dreams threw down the gauntlet for me to leave expecting me to fold and bend to his will. Instead I picked it up. I turned my back on my friends, as the leaders of CVA turned their backs on me. It was not a decision I took lightly and my willpower gave me the integrity to do so honourably. CVA claim me to be a trigger happy pirate. If this was so why had I managed to stay in their alliance for a year and 6 months? No, I am no "trigger happy hot head". I merely stand up to any threat which presents itself rather than cower behind useless waves of political propaganda. When someone attacks one of our own my first instinct is to strike back. Not open a dialog with them offering them terms and gifts to cease their hostilities. There are some things in this universe that can only be solved by violence. I merely recognise which ones these are early and strike.
Naphtalia The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:59:00 - [38] I had initial talks with TET and I am afraid my suspiciouns were confirmed, the CVA's best combat pilots, now broken free of the chain of command have nothing to show for their years of slavery and labour in the ranks of the CVA Navy. No pension, and so little pay and prizes for their glorious feats they have trouble fitting their combat vessels. I can see how this is a method of wageslavery not unlike we see in the State, make sure you underpay your best soldiers so much they can't afford to leave the service. Makes one wonder which zeal your warriors are really fighting for or if it is only to be able to feed their wife and kids mere scraps. Therefore I will repeat my congratulations to them breaking free and finally being able to work for themselves, their own wallets and their own glory and vengeance. Nothing is wrong with reaping what you sow, nothing is wrong with enjoying the fruits of your labour yourself, nothing is wrong is having a choice in your carreer, having a choice of friends and enemies, having a choice of which laws to follow. Congratulations, my friends recruitment
Astarte Nosferatu House Nosferatu Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:11:00 - [39] Originally by: Mikkel We shall see how long you will survive now without the financial aid of CVA. Don't worry, House Nosferatu still has a tens of billions to support any enemies of the CVA. The combined wealth of all the Sani Sabik sects surely can pay for any war against alliances like the CVA for many years to come.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:28:00 - [40] Edited by: Pezzle on 15/11/2006 15:31:02 Those leaving did so of their own accord. They made the choice, it was not forced upon them. To those who think the CVA has become weak, or that we have lost ourselves: Your money and faulty intelligence will not defeat us any more than your empty words can. You know where we are You know what we stand for The Empire is Eternal, Amarr Victor
Amira Silvermist Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:36:00 - [41] Gnarrkilly and many others here seem to misunderstand a simple fact: To serve is not a weakness, its strength. If you and your fellow turncoats were really interested to change things in the CVA why didn't you try to raise in their ranks? I tell you, its because that would need patience, faith and a lot of hard work. You took the easy route like many others that think yelling "FREEDOM" is the best way to solve problems: Run away and only cater to your own needs.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:41:00 - [42] Edited by: Hardin on 15/11/2006 15:43:11 Originally by: Naphtalia the CVA's best combat pilots You really have no clue do you? Clearly your need to make capital out of an issue that is not your concern demonstrates something. I have already said my piece on Gnarr and his merry band further up this thread but clearly I was too verbose. To simplify it for everyone 1. A SMALL group of pilots has decided to leave the CVA for reasons of their own, primarily because they want to shoot more stuff and because they clearly did not think they were getting enough 'respect' 2. Their decision in no way impacts the CVA and our day to day operations. People (indeed more important people) have left the CVA before - it is no big deal. We will continue to fight terrorism and we will continue to fight piracy - nothing changes. 3. My suggestion is that Gnarr and his buddies go and create their own reputation rather than live off their CVA glories. It saddens me that Gnarr felt the need to start an anti-CVA thread here if only because I think its in poor taste. If Gnarr had issues he should have dealt with them privately and if they were not resolved left quietly out of respect for his former wingmates instead of throwing his toys out of the pram and belittling all those who had considered him a friend. This all reminds me of when PIE decided to leave the CVA which for the CVA was a much more significant development than this minor incident. Many people sought to exploit the situation and predicted the CVA's demise. However they all ended up with egg on their faces as the CVA went from strength to strength. I feel that this will be the outcome again, which wouldn't surprise me as you (Naphtalia) seem to be making a habit of wiping yolk from your eyes. The entity that is the CVA is stronger than the sum of its parts - remember that. Amarr Victor ------------------------------ Blog's back - for now
Gnarrkilly The Tet Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:05:00 - [43] Quote: If Gnarr had issues he should have dealt with them privately and if they were not resolved left quietly out of respect for his former wingmates instead of throwing his toys out of the pram and belittling all those who had considered him a friend. This speech was made with the consent of my former wingmates. You claim this has no impact on CVA I think it already has. But only time will tell if any serious damage is done. Only a few of you have left for now, but I think more of my battle brothers will come to join me. In CVA you have your little inner circle of "elite" Pilots but everyone else is treated as cannon fodder. Their words fall on deaf ears and it will only be a matter of time before they realise where their true loyalty lies. Your pride will do more damage to CVA than any coalition of alliances will. As I said time will tell.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:20:00 - [44] Originally by: Naphtalia the CVA's best combat pilots, now broken free of the chain of command have nothing to show for their years of slavery and labour in the ranks of the CVA Navy. I'm sure Sidyous, Solusar, Ramruqai, Clavius, Siobhan, Kincajou, Redwolf, and the rest of the best combat pilots in the CVA have plenty to show for their years of service in the CVA Navy.
Naphtalia The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:23:00 - [45] A wise Amarrian godfearing priest once taught me When your enemy starts to lower themselves to throwing insults, the discussion is won. recruitment
kincajou niten Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:25:00 - [46] Edited by: kincajou niten on 15/11/2006 16:31:10 Originally by: Naphtalia A wise Amarrian godfearing priest once taught me When your enemy starts to lower themselves to throwing insults, the discussion is won. Might be the same priest (though I doubt it), he once told me the people who are talking about things they do not have a clue about look silly. Regarding the issue, I still hope the people who left will eventually see what they did wrong.
Naphtalia The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:30:00 - [47] Originally by: kincajou niten Originally by: Naphtalia A wise Amarrian godfearing priest once taught me When your enemy starts to lower themselves to throwing insults, the discussion is won. Might be the same priest (though I doubt it), he once told me the people who are talking about things they do not have a clue about look silly. You can keep retorting with an insult as long as you want, people that know what they are talking about will see right through it and realise, this is nothing more then inability to talk about the issue at hand. What is next? Going to tell me I am a drugabuser? or that I was abducted by the jovians? You are just panicking, unable to deal with the truth, "Yeah lets all run and call names, maybe they take us seriously" You all make me laugh and pitty you! recruitment
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:32:00 - [48] Originally by: Naphtalia A wise Amarrian godfearing priest once taught me When your enemy starts to lower themselves to throwing insults, the discussion is won. Then this discussion was ended as soon as Gnarrkilly saw fit to kick sand in the face of the organization who wished him well upon his withdrawal from service. Yes, he left due to a difference of opinion with leadership. No, he was not pressured into leaving...in fact many of the most active combat pilots had warm words for him upon his announcement that he was leaving. And now we see this. And still we do not have direct insults for Gnarrkilly...only a resolve to deal judgement to a man who has made an attack on the honor of the CVA. Might want to get your nose out of this one, Naphtalia. Again and again you demonstrate your ignorance of the subject material. Offer your support to Gnarrkilly's new organization and leave it at that.
kincajou niten Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:33:00 - [49] Originally by: Naphtalia You can keep retorting with an insult as long as you want, people that know what they are talking about will see right through it and realise, this is nothing more then inability to talk about the issue at hand. Did I insult you? If so, then I'm truely sorry. But it looks like you decided the phrase suits you by yourself already.
Khan Rodak Amarr Manu Dei	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:42:00 - [50] Originally by: Gnarrkilly (...)Only a few of you have left for now, but I think more of my battle brothers will come to join me.(...) The reason for this thread seems obvious to me now. Originally by: Gnarrkilly In CVA you have your little inner circle of "elite" Pilots but everyone else is treated as cannon fodder. Their words fall on deaf ears and it will only be a matter of time before they realise where their true loyalty lies. Your pride will do more damage to CVA than any coalition of alliances will. As I said time will tell. Yet, this isnt the amarrian way of achive things. What makes us better than the others, is that means are as impostant as ends. Sorrow fills my heart. Yet i know CVA will stand, forever, as they have the favour of God on their work. I just wonder if this has anything to do with the opening of CVA ranks to foreign pilots. I wonder if those foreigners wouldnt brought into CVA some democratic ideals which created false hopes and later deceptions among some of their ranks. Amarrians dont deal good with democracy I'm affraid. Just a tought, anyway. New Seminarium open
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:49:00 - [51] I'm sure that the CVA will not falter despite the loss of a handful of non-command pilots. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:49:00 - [52] Originally by: Khan Rodak I just wonder if this has anything to do with the opening of CVA ranks to foreign pilots. I assure you, Lord Rodak, that this is not the case. As the first of the lesser races admitted into the CVA, I have taken it upon myself to make it understood to any who followed my footsteps that our primary mission is to "shut up and color" when orders come down. The CVA is most certainly not a democracy, and that seems to be what Gnarrkilly's issue boils down to, to be honest. Odd, that.
Jedi Darklord	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:51:00 - [53] Originally by: kincajou niten Regarding the issue, I still hope the people who left will eventually see what they did wrong. Well i know i have done nothing wrong other than to accept an invitation from a friend to join a corp more suited to what we want to achieve for our subscription. To Camar and Naphtalia, your support will always be welcome. --------------------------------------------------- T.E.T. Corporation."Brutality at it's Best"
Camar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:04:00 - [54] Mr. Tomahawk Bliss, Fimbulwinter works in a bit different way then most (all?) other alliances. Each new corporation accepted becomes a new Cell sharing the same target-selection and code of honor/conduct. Each cell can, and will, operate by itself as well as with other Cells. But since it is not democratic and in the end an extension of the SRS vision it cannot falter by one Cell turning a full 360. But in all honesty, I just LOVE the idea of former loyalists shooting at "former friends", there is such beauty in that
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:05:00 - [55] Originally by: Jedi Darklord more suited to what we want to achieve for our subscription. ISD, we've got an outbreak. Need containment ASAP.
Khan Rodak Amarr Manu Dei	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:08:00 - [56] Originally by: Jedi Darklord Well i know i have done nothing wrong other than to accept an invitation from a friend to join a corp more suited to what we want to achieve for our subscription. To Camar and Naphtalia, your support will always be welcome. So, the suport of terrorists and outlaws will fit you to achive what you want with your... hum... your what exactly? New Seminarium open
Khan Rodak Amarr Manu Dei	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:13:00 - [57] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Khan Rodak I just wonder if this has anything to do with the opening of CVA ranks to foreign pilots. I assure you, Lord Rodak, that this is not the case. As the first of the lesser races admitted into the CVA, I have taken it upon myself to make it understood to any who followed my footsteps that our primary mission is to "shut up and color" when orders come down. The CVA is most certainly not a democracy, and that seems to be what Gnarrkilly's issue boils down to, to be honest. Odd, that. If thatÆs the case, and knowing you, your attitude, behaviour and skills, I rest not assured, not happy (as I'd love to see CVA pure as it was once) but I'm, certainly less concerned. Just truly hope you succeed on that task, Garreck. New Seminarium open
Jedi Darklord	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:32:00 - [58] Originally by: Khan Rodak So, the suport of terrorists and outlaws will fit you to achive what you want with your... hum... your what exactly? I accept their support because they are the only ones offering any. 4 months with the CVA apparently counts for nothing. --------------------------------------------------- T.E.T. Corporation."Brutality at it's Best"
Acron Ishtal Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:39:00 - [59] Ahh, the true nature of a mercenary. You are not fit to serve the empire, faith being a prerequisite. Run to your new allies if you must. While you may have parted company as neutrals, I suspect you will not long remain so. When my faith is tested, I shall not falter. My heart is pure, my path righteous, and my vengeance unstopable. Tremble before the wrath of god, for I am a vessel of his will. You have failed your test. All that remains is your judgement... An authorized transmission of the honorable Deacon Acron Ishtal
Montague Zooma Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:45:00 - [60] Originally by: Jedi Darklord Originally by: kincajou niten Regarding the issue, I still hope the people who left will eventually see what they did wrong. Well i know i have done nothing wrong other than to accept an invitation from a friend to join a corp more suited to what we want to achieve for our subscription. To Camar and Naphtalia, your support will always be welcome. Indeed, we were all prepared to wish everyone well. Then, of course, Gnarrkilly starts throwing mud on the good name of CVA. Quite an auspicious beginning for your new leader...or for someone at least claiming to be your leader/spokesman. Perhaps now Gnarrkilly realizes why CVA leadership didn't always adopt his suggestions. Leadership carries a great deal of responsibility with it. Good leaders weigh the consequences of their actions. Gnarr either didn't think through the effects of his announcement here, or he just plain didn't care how it affected the rest of you. Leadership ain't as easy as it looks. Follow Gnarrkilly at your own peril.

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