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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.14 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Gnarrkilly on 14/11/2006 21:45:59
CVA Wardogs Bite Their Masters' Hand.
Over the past few weeks CVA have slowly turned their back on some of their combat pilots. They have been let down, combined years of active service on the front line, unquestionably fighting wars on a day to day basis "For the Emperor" For the CVA political "leaders".
Today a question must be answered. Who really deserves their loyalty? The Emperor and Empire? The leaders who send them into battle then turn their backs on them when their no longer required? Or perhaps... perhaps those other combat pilots those men who stand shoulder to shoulder to them through the thick and the thin. Those who stand their ground no matter how dire the circumstances. Those who go back for the pilots left behind in enemy territory. Those who share their grief and get them back into the fight.
To long have we been used as pawns to defend the CVA ideals. Today a lodge of CVA combat pilots strip off their CVA badges, their medals and tour of duty ribbons they step away from those who have all but abandoned them and band together to form a new corporation. Although their future is uncertain at this point all avenues are being considered for this small but veteran combat unit. Other CVA combat pilots are encouraged to strip off their CVA insignias and step into the light. After a few weeks of setting up, their services may be available on contract.
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:18:00 -
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Interesting turn of events.
((Best of luck  ))
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Naphtalia
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:31:00 -
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If you are truly dissapointed in the Empire and CVA, please arrange a meeting with myself, I am sure I can offer you something of mutual interest.
Regards,
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Camar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:41:00 -
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Most excellent news...indeed.
How come the thought of ex defenders of the amarr empire turning their guns on the empire itself excites me?
Oh yes, any part but the first sentence is just a thought I find very...very...VERY exciting, but has nothing to do with this post 
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Beringe
Caldari
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:45:00 -
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Not being a religious man, myself, I was still always impressed by what has been built by the CVA in Providence. I think it's a shame that you'd give that up, but then I don't know the details of your disagreements with your leaders.
Care to shine a little light on that?
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"Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
Reash
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:01:00 -
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Those weak of will we are better off without, may god show them the error of their ways and punish them accordingly.
Auctoritan Syndicate Director
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Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:14:00 -
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step away from those who have all but abandoned them and band together to form a new corporation.
You claim you have been abandoned by CVA yet the only ones I see "leaving" anything are you...... How do you reconcile that fact and where do you plan to live now as abandoning CVA would also indicate you no longer wish to live in space they protect.
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To long have we been used as pawns to defend the CVA ideals.
CVA ideals have long been the idea of expanding the Amarrian Empire into Providence and protecting innocent civilians from the constant thread of terorrists and pirates. This is the "ideal" you abandon? To do what? If you were to move to Empire and continue the fight against terrorism I could understand yet this next quote by you indicates you have something else in mind?
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After a few weeks of setting up, their services may be available on contract.
From this quote it appears you plan to go into mercenary work? How "noble" a profession as compared to something as mundane as defending Amarr and expanding the Empire. 
Archbishop
PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: Gnarrkilly on 14/11/2006 23:39:20
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You claim you have been abandoned by CVA yet the only ones I see "leaving" anything are you...... How do you reconcile that fact and where do you plan to live now as abandoning CVA would also indicate you no longer wish to live in space they protect.
Perhaps your eyes are weary old man, no doubt too much time spent behind your desk. All BUT abandoned was the term used. Where we plan to live should not concern you...yet.
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CVA ideals have long been the idea of expanding the Amarrian Empire into Providence and protecting innocent civilians from the constant thread of terorrists and pirates. This is the "ideal" you abandon? To do what? If you were to move to Empire and continue the fight against terrorism I could understand yet this next quote by you indicates you have something else in mind?
It appears we were the majority of the CVA combat pilots defending those innocent civilians. Our lives lost. For what? So that the CVA political leaders can boast about how effective THEY have been? We shall still eradicate the filth, but in our own way.
Quote:
From this quote it appears you plan to go into mercenary work? How "noble" a profession as compared to something as mundane as defending Amarr and expanding the Empire.
Perhaps you have use of our services? I hear your backs have been pushed against the wall. Perhaps I could overlook your alliance and self proclaimed title if you didn't desecrate the very nature of Amarr with your empty and pathetic words.
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Solusar
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gnarrkilly
It appears we were the majority of the CVA combat pilots defending those innocent civilians. Our lives lost. For what? So that the CVA political leaders can boast about how effective THEY have been? We shall still eradicate the filth, but in our own way.
Sidyous, CVA Executor - 622 Kills
Hardin, Past CVA Leader - 568 Kills
Aralis, Past CVA Leader - 300 Kills
Gnarrkilly, CVA "Attack Dog" - 279 Kills
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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Gnarrkilly on 15/11/2006 00:08:37
Quote:
Sidyous, CVA Executor - 622 Kills
Hardin, Past CVA Leader - 568 Kills
Aralis, Past CVA Leader - 300 Kills
Gnarrkilly, CVA "Attack Dog" - 279 Kills
(oc: Wasn't it you guys who taught me posting exact statistics was very lame? Whats next? gonna flash us some killmails :))
Yet your systems at this very moment are crawling with traitors, heretics and terrorists. No doubt you are in some distant system dozens of jumps from empire killing some civilian who has picked up the wrong loot can FOR THE GOOD OF AMARR!
Although I must say, pretty good numbers created by me considering I have only been activly on the battlefield for 5 months.
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Sidyous
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Sidyous on 15/11/2006 00:16:36
Edited by: Sidyous on 15/11/2006 00:14:42
Mr Gnarkilly,
For your actions here against CVA and your consistant instability, you are henceforth considered a threat to the stability of Providence and possibly the Empire and are considered Kill on Sight.
Not sure if I ever told you your mouth would one day get you in trouble but now it has, your actions here suggest you are working against us and with the very pirates that we are working against.
Try not to forget Gnarr I and most of my corporation are combat pilots and we continuously fight for the Empire and its expansion. I would also like to add that 'hotheads' are not welcome in the CVA and somehow you slipped through.
You have 12 hours in which to remove your posessions from areas we patrol before you become Kill on Sight. Any more cheek from you and this will be cut to 10 minutes.
I would like to stress that the rest of Gnarrkillys corporation is free to roam CVA space so long as they are continue to cooperate with us and not act against us in the same manner Gnarrkilly has here.
Lord Sidyous
CEO Auctoritan Syndicate
Leader of the CVA
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Solusar
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gnarrkilly
Edited by: Gnarrkilly on 15/11/2006 00:08:37
Quote:
Sidyous, CVA Executor - 622 Kills
Hardin, Past CVA Leader - 568 Kills
Aralis, Past CVA Leader - 300 Kills
Gnarrkilly, CVA "Attack Dog" - 279 Kills
(oc: Wasn't it you guys who taught me posting exact statistics was very lame? Whats next? gonna flash us some killmails :))
Yet your systems at this very moment are crawling with traitors, heretics and terrorists. No doubt you are in some distant system dozens of jumps from empire killing some civilian who has picked up the wrong loot can FOR THE GOOD OF AMARR!
Although I must say, pretty good numbers created by me considering I have only been activly on the battlefield for 5 months.
You made a claim, I proved it wrong. Next
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:14:00 -
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To be fair 279 kills is a very respectable total and hardly a cause for disrespect from his late Masters. This proves Gnarrkilly is a capable and dilligent fighter and should be afforded a fair degree of understanding from the CVA management at least.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Solusar
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
To be fair 279 kills is a very respectable total and hardly a cause for disrespect from his late Masters. This proves Gnarrkilly is a capable and dilligent fighter and should be afforded a fair degree of understanding from the CVA management at least.
Please point when we said it wasnt, he merely claimed the CVA leaders do no fighting which is not true.
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Amandi Casimi
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:20:00 -
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To clarify, Gnarrkilly left CVA of his own free will, and was not forced to leave by anyone in the CVA.
Let neutrals be neutrals.
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Alexander Rahl
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:51:00 -
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Whilst i agree gnarrkilly is a very capable combat pilot his attitude and lack of integrity or respect cannot be ignored hence Lord Sidyous post.
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Fear is the mind killer. I must not Fear!!
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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sidyous
Edited by: Sidyous on 15/11/2006 00:16:36
Edited by: Sidyous on 15/11/2006 00:14:42
Mr Gnarkilly,
For your actions here against CVA and your consistant instability, you are henceforth considered a threat to the stability of Providence and possibly the Empire and are considered Kill on Sight.
Not sure if I ever told you your mouth would one day get you in trouble but now it has, your actions here suggest you are working against us and with the very pirates that we are working against.
Try not to forget Gnarr I and most of my corporation are combat pilots and we continuously fight for the Empire and its expansion. I would also like to add that 'hotheads' are not welcome in the CVA and somehow you slipped through.
You have 12 hours in which to remove your posessions from areas we patrol before you become Kill on Sight. Any more cheek from you and this will be cut to 10 minutes.
I would like to stress that the rest of Gnarrkillys corporation is free to roam CVA space so long as they are continue to cooperate with us and not act against us in the same manner Gnarrkilly has here.
Lord Sidyous
CEO Auctoritan Syndicate
Leader of the CVA
Oh my, the pretend leader to the CVA graces us with his presence. Although I could continue to engage in this battle of words with you im growing weary of it. I was never really a politician and I have said my peace for the moment. The only time I was planning on returning to CVA space is with a warfleet.
Your petty threats and already overstretched patrols do not worry me.
I fail to see how my aparent 'hot head' attitude has allowed me to stay in CVA for so long. If anything, reading your broadcasts and alliance transmissions it is you who is getting hotheaded.
- Gnarrkilly out until I have something worthwhile to reply to rather than your petty banter.
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Sidyous
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:58:00 -
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Ten Minutes.
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Acron Ishtal
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:01:00 -
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Our "pretend leader" just gave us permission to kill you. Expect us to take full advantage of it.
Traitors and heretics have no place in our space. Thank you for making the issue so much simpler for us.
An authorized transmission of the honorable Deacon Acron Ishtal
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Roland De'chain
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sidyous
Edited by: Sidyous on 15/11/2006 00:58:09
Not sure if I ever told you your mouth would one day get you in trouble but now it has, your actions here suggest you are working against us and with the very pirates that we are working against.
You have 12 hours in which to remove your posessions from areas we patrol before you become Kill on Sight. Any more cheek from you and this will be cut to 10 minutes.
I would like to stress that the rest of Gnarrkillys corporation is free to roam CVA space so long as they continue to cooperate with us and not act against us in the same manner Gnarrkilly has here.
Lord Sidyous, i respect you greatly as the leader of CVA but this i must speak on.
I at least respect the work CVA are doing in providence, tis a noble cause indeed, but i think i speak for the Tet corporation when i say this:
We will not hesitate to defend our corp mates, while it would pain me to do so i myself will return fire in defense of any of my corp mates, even against the Auctoritan Syndicate who i have nothing but respect for.
We are ka-tet, one from many, shoot one of us and shoot all.
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Naphtalia
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:17:00 -
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It is pleasing to see how all my presumptions are correct. The accused organisations spit out anyone of quality and a wish for personal growth.
I am looking forward to cooperating with the ex-CVA that just started to taste freedom and the pleasure of being your own boss and taking what is yours for the taking.
Please continue to alienate more dear old man, it will make our job a lot easier.
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Solusar
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Naphtalia
It is pleasing to see how all my presumptions are correct. The accused organisations spit out anyone of quality and a wish for personal growth.
I am looking forward to cooperating with the ex-CVA that just started to taste freedom and the pleasure of being your own boss and taking what is yours for the taking.
Please continue to alienate more dear old man, it will make our job a lot easier.
You remind me of an old begger that used to wait outside my estate waiting for table scraps.
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Naphtalia
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Solusar
You remind me of an old begger that used to wait outside my estate waiting for table scraps.
Oh it is that time?
You remind me of an old fat Spacelane patrol Admiral that was so full of himself he needed help to releive himself. While having able and capable young pilots give their lives to make him fatter, older and more lazy.
Keep repressing people, keep taking what is theirs.. and they will turn against you.
Sleep well old man.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Naphtalia
You remind me of an old fat Spacelane patrol Admiral that was so full of himself he needed help to releive himself. While having able and capable young pilots give their lives to make him fatter, older and more lazy.
Your intel division fails again.
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Acron Ishtal
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 02:12:00 -
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Black Rabbits have an intel division? Isn't that an oxymoron?
An authorized transmission of the honorable Deacon Acron Ishtal |
Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.11.15 03:48:00 -
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Such fun
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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ceirwyn
Amarr
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.11.15 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Your intel division fails again.
Of course.
There are no Amarrians in Mito......
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.15 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: ceirwyn
Originally by: Garreck
Your intel division fails again.
Of course.
There are no Amarrians in Mito......
Maybe not live Amarrians any more. I think the only remaining Amarri nationalists in the region are deep frozen in SF and Rabbit ice storage.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: ceirwyn
Of course.
There are no Amarrians in Mito......
If the Black Rabbits had declared war on the CVA based on fouled up intelligence reports, we'd be in Mito as well.
Were you going somewhere with this...?
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Mikkel
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 08:31:00 -
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We shall see how long you will survive now without the financial aid of CVA.
But do as you wish, i'll be glad to see you in battle!
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2006.11.15 10:08:00 -
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Yes Gnarrkilly... soon or later some of you will start to see through the veils of deception and dissapointment these Amarr "loyalists" dweels within.
I hope more of you will come to your senses freeing yourselves from this auto imposed slavery amarr or not.
The Sani Sabik will be glad to assist you in any ways you may need.
Revan Neferis Verisum
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Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:25:00 -
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Gnarrkilly and a few of those who have left the CVA were competent combat pilots. There is no doubt about that.
However, they are a handful amongst many. The CVA as an organisation has been forged in war and there are many to take the place of Gnarrkilly and his merry band. It is not like this has not happened before.
While I have respect for Gnarrkilly's abilities I have not much respect for the way he has handled his departure from an organisation which nurtured him and provided him with much support during his development as a combat pilot.
Gnarrkilly and his band of defectors were often on the frontlines of CVA actions and we are grateful for their assistance. Yet Gnarrkilly and the malcontents who have joined him were always at the radical / impetuous end of the CVA - constantly seeking to pick fights and start conflict merely for the sake of combat.
This went against the grain of the majority in the CVA - which afterall is a force for stability in Providence and low-sec Amarrian space.
Our policy in dealing with neighbouring alliances and the neutrals who occupy our space has always been one of restrained diplomacy yet Gnarkilly always saw the slightest transgression as a cause for war.
It was clear that he was becoming unhappy when it became evident that he was not going to change the CVA approach.
To be honest his departure with a handful of other radicals has created a stronger CVA unified in view and in purpose.
If Gnarrkilly wished to leave on good terms then he could have done so quite happily. Indeed many CVA pilots sent their best wishes with him when he announced his departure - yet his attention seeking post here clearly seeks to do damage to the CVA and is a clear sign of disloyalty.
This backlash at those who gave him a home and support for so long is indicative of Gnarkilly's level of maturity and lack of diplomatic nouse.
Gnarrkilly, while I respect your combat abilities, your continual perseverance and your work for the Amarr cause, whilst in the CVA, I would suggest that you and your disloyal band of turncoats leave the area and go and carve out your own name and reputation rather than seek to demean ours.
Amarr Victor
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Blog's back - for now
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Camar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.11.15 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gnarrkilly
The only time I was planning on returning to CVA space is with a warfleet.
I have really tried to resist the urge, but as you all know, Brutor blood is hard to calm once it starts to boil.
Mr. Gnarrkilly, Fimbulwinter would welcome a new cell operating in the Providence region shooting at CVA if that would be your desire. I have no idea on where you are going or what you are planning to do, but I just HAD to make this statement *smiles broadly*
I should be rather easy to come in contact with, otherwise Ryas Nia is mostly available as well for any "diplomatic" talks and/or to provide more information about how Fimbulwinter works.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.11.15 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Camar
Originally by: Gnarrkilly
The only time I was planning on returning to CVA space is with a warfleet.
I have really tried to resist the urge, but as you all know, Brutor blood is hard to calm once it starts to boil.
Mr. Gnarrkilly, Fimbulwinter would welcome a new cell operating in the Providence region shooting at CVA if that would be your desire. I have no idea on where you are going or what you are planning to do, but I just HAD to make this statement *smiles broadly*
I should be rather easy to come in contact with, otherwise Ryas Nia is mostly available as well for any "diplomatic" talks and/or to provide more information about how Fimbulwinter works.
can you trust a turn-coat Camar? right now Fimbulwinter is an elite grouping of honor bound pilots...would it really be a smart move to add someone who can so easily turn on their former friends out of boredom and an inability to restrain their pirate urges? Do you think they wouldn't do the same to you or to the minmatar?
Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think.
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JediMaster Jay
Amarr
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: JediMaster Jay on 15/11/2006 14:36:02
But i am sorry to leave the cva and my pals behind but yes i am a war dog enjoy the fight i do not like to sit on my hands or hide i do not or will not get involved in silly smack talk i wish the cva all the best and still will searve the Empire just in my own way
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Jedi Darklord
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Posted - 2006.11.15 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Gnarrkilly and his band of defectors were often on the frontlines of CVA actions and we are grateful for their assistance. Yet Gnarrkilly and the malcontents who have joined him were always at the radical / impetuous end of the CVA - constantly seeking to pick fights and start conflict merely for the sake of combat.
Whilst having no desire to engage in this war of words i take great exception to being labelled a "radical", i would like to point out that most of my combat operations were in response to a CVA call to arms and not as part of a my so called radical ways. I have nothing but respect for the Spoonites and CVA but the continued lack of action against our enemies has been immensly frustrating, things came to an abrupt end when we are told "R3 is camped" because there happens to be 3 enemies sat in the system and the refusal of certain members of the CVA to respond to a proactive call to battle and the subsequent slating of Gnarr for trying to do something about it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.
I like my brothers will defend a fellow corp member against all aggressers wether domestic or foreign and im sure you can at least appreciate my loyalty.
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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.15 14:57:00 -
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can you trust a turn-coat Camar? right now Fimbulwinter is an elite grouping of honor bound pilots...would it really be a smart move to add someone who can so easily turn on their former friends out of boredom and an inability to restrain their pirate urges? Do you think they wouldn't do the same to you or to the minmatar?
Hold your tongue scum. You know nothing of honor or our reasons for leaving. We served CVA through thick and thin. I could quite easily have de-activated their structures, raided their vaults and treasuries and destroyed their alliance plus I would of never had to worry about ISK again, but no I wouldn't do that to them. Aralis leader of Imperial Dreams threw down the gauntlet for me to leave expecting me to fold and bend to his will. Instead I picked it up.
I turned my back on my friends, as the leaders of CVA turned their backs on me. It was not a decision I took lightly and my willpower gave me the integrity to do so honourably.
CVA claim me to be a trigger happy pirate. If this was so why had I managed to stay in their alliance for a year and 6 months? No, I am no "trigger happy hot head". I merely stand up to any threat which presents itself rather than cower behind useless waves of political propaganda. When someone attacks one of our own my first instinct is to strike back. Not open a dialog with them offering them terms and gifts to cease their hostilities.
There are some things in this universe that can only be solved by violence. I merely recognise which ones these are early and strike.
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Naphtalia
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.11.15 14:59:00 -
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I had initial talks with TET and I am afraid my suspiciouns were confirmed, the CVA's best combat pilots, now broken free of the chain of command have nothing to show for their years of slavery and labour in the ranks of the CVA Navy. No pension, and so little pay and prizes for their glorious feats they have trouble fitting their combat vessels.
I can see how this is a method of wageslavery not unlike we see in the State, make sure you underpay your best soldiers so much they can't afford to leave the service. Makes one wonder which zeal your warriors are really fighting for or if it is only to be able to feed their wife and kids mere scraps.
Therefore I will repeat my congratulations to them breaking free and finally being able to work for themselves, their own wallets and their own glory and vengeance. Nothing is wrong with reaping what you sow, nothing is wrong with enjoying the fruits of your labour yourself, nothing is wrong is having a choice in your carreer, having a choice of friends and enemies, having a choice of which laws to follow.
Congratulations, my friends
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Astarte Nosferatu
House Nosferatu
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:11:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Mikkel
We shall see how long you will survive now without the financial aid of CVA.
Don't worry, House Nosferatu still has a tens of billions to support any enemies of the CVA. The combined wealth of all the Sani Sabik sects surely can pay for any war against alliances like the CVA for many years to come.
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Pezzle
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Pezzle on 15/11/2006 15:31:02
Those leaving did so of their own accord. They made the choice, it was not forced upon them.
To those who think the CVA has become weak, or that we have lost ourselves:
Your money and faulty intelligence will not defeat us any more than your empty words can.
You know where we are
You know what we stand for
The Empire is Eternal,
Amarr Victor
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Amira Silvermist
Yazata Spenta
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:36:00 -
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Gnarrkilly and many others here seem to misunderstand a simple fact:
To serve is not a weakness, its strength.
If you and your fellow turncoats were really interested to change things in the CVA why didn't you try to raise in their ranks? I tell you, its because that would need patience, faith and a lot of hard work.
You took the easy route like many others that think yelling "FREEDOM" is the best way to solve problems: Run away and only cater to your own needs.
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Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 15/11/2006 15:43:11
Originally by: Naphtalia
the CVA's best combat pilots
You really have no clue do you?
Clearly your need to make capital out of an issue that is not your concern demonstrates something.
I have already said my piece on Gnarr and his merry band further up this thread but clearly I was too verbose. To simplify it for everyone
1. A SMALL group of pilots has decided to leave the CVA for reasons of their own, primarily because they want to shoot more stuff and because they clearly did not think they were getting enough 'respect'
2. Their decision in no way impacts the CVA and our day to day operations. People (indeed more important people) have left the CVA before - it is no big deal. We will continue to fight terrorism and we will continue to fight piracy - nothing changes.
3. My suggestion is that Gnarr and his buddies go and create their own reputation rather than live off their CVA glories.
It saddens me that Gnarr felt the need to start an anti-CVA thread here if only because I think its in poor taste.
If Gnarr had issues he should have dealt with them privately and if they were not resolved left quietly out of respect for his former wingmates instead of throwing his toys out of the pram and belittling all those who had considered him a friend.
This all reminds me of when PIE decided to leave the CVA which for the CVA was a much more significant development than this minor incident.
Many people sought to exploit the situation and predicted the CVA's demise. However they all ended up with egg on their faces as the CVA went from strength to strength.
I feel that this will be the outcome again, which wouldn't surprise me as you (Naphtalia) seem to be making a habit of wiping yolk from your eyes.
The entity that is the CVA is stronger than the sum of its parts - remember that.
Amarr Victor
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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:05:00 -
[43]
Quote:
If Gnarr had issues he should have dealt with them privately and if they were not resolved left quietly out of respect for his former wingmates instead of throwing his toys out of the pram and belittling all those who had considered him a friend.
This speech was made with the consent of my former wingmates.
You claim this has no impact on CVA I think it already has. But only time will tell if any serious damage is done. Only a few of you have left for now, but I think more of my battle brothers will come to join me.
In CVA you have your little inner circle of "elite" Pilots but everyone else is treated as cannon fodder. Their words fall on deaf ears and it will only be a matter of time before they realise where their true loyalty lies. Your pride will do more damage to CVA than any coalition of alliances will.
As I said time will tell.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:20:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Naphtalia
the CVA's best combat pilots, now broken free of the chain of command have nothing to show for their years of slavery and labour in the ranks of the CVA Navy.
I'm sure Sidyous, Solusar, Ramruqai, Clavius, Siobhan, Kincajou, Redwolf, and the rest of the best combat pilots in the CVA have plenty to show for their years of service in the CVA Navy.
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Naphtalia
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:23:00 -
[45]
A wise Amarrian godfearing priest once taught me When your enemy starts to lower themselves to throwing insults, the discussion is won.
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kincajou niten
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:25:00 -
[46]
Edited by: kincajou niten on 15/11/2006 16:31:10
Originally by: Naphtalia
A wise Amarrian godfearing priest once taught me When your enemy starts to lower themselves to throwing insults, the discussion is won.
Might be the same priest (though I doubt it), he once told me the people who are talking about things they do not have a clue about look silly.
Regarding the issue, I still hope the people who left will eventually see what they did wrong.
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Naphtalia
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:30:00 -
[47]
Originally by: kincajou niten
Originally by: Naphtalia
A wise Amarrian godfearing priest once taught me When your enemy starts to lower themselves to throwing insults, the discussion is won.
Might be the same priest (though I doubt it), he once told me the people who are talking about things they do not have a clue about look silly.
You can keep retorting with an insult as long as you want, people that know what they are talking about will see right through it and realise, this is nothing more then inability to talk about the issue at hand.
What is next? Going to tell me I am a drugabuser? or that I was abducted by the jovians?
You are just panicking, unable to deal with the truth, "Yeah lets all run and call names, maybe they take us seriously"
You all make me laugh and pitty you!
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:32:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Naphtalia
A wise Amarrian godfearing priest once taught me When your enemy starts to lower themselves to throwing insults, the discussion is won.
Then this discussion was ended as soon as Gnarrkilly saw fit to kick sand in the face of the organization who wished him well upon his withdrawal from service. Yes, he left due to a difference of opinion with leadership. No, he was not pressured into leaving...in fact many of the most active combat pilots had warm words for him upon his announcement that he was leaving.
And now we see this. And still we do not have direct insults for Gnarrkilly...only a resolve to deal judgement to a man who has made an attack on the honor of the CVA.
Might want to get your nose out of this one, Naphtalia. Again and again you demonstrate your ignorance of the subject material. Offer your support to Gnarrkilly's new organization and leave it at that.
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kincajou niten
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:33:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Naphtalia
You can keep retorting with an insult as long as you want, people that know what they are talking about will see right through it and realise, this is nothing more then inability to talk about the issue at hand.
Did I insult you? If so, then I'm truely sorry. But it looks like you decided the phrase suits you by yourself already.
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Khan Rodak
Amarr
Manu Dei
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:42:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Gnarrkilly
(...)Only a few of you have left for now, but I think more of my battle brothers will come to join me.(...)
The reason for this thread seems obvious to me now.
Originally by: Gnarrkilly
In CVA you have your little inner circle of "elite" Pilots but everyone else is treated as cannon fodder. Their words fall on deaf ears and it will only be a matter of time before they realise where their true loyalty lies. Your pride will do more damage to CVA than any coalition of alliances will.
As I said time will tell.
Yet, this isnt the amarrian way of achive things. What makes us better than the others, is that means are as impostant as ends.
Sorrow fills my heart. Yet i know CVA will stand, forever, as they have the favour of God on their work.
I just wonder if this has anything to do with the opening of CVA ranks to foreign pilots. I wonder if those foreigners wouldnt brought into CVA some democratic ideals which created false hopes and later deceptions among some of their ranks. Amarrians dont deal good with democracy I'm affraid.
Just a tought, anyway.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:49:00 -
[51]
I'm sure that the CVA will not falter despite the loss of a handful of non-command pilots.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:49:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Khan Rodak
I just wonder if this has anything to do with the opening of CVA ranks to foreign pilots.
I assure you, Lord Rodak, that this is not the case. As the first of the lesser races admitted into the CVA, I have taken it upon myself to make it understood to any who followed my footsteps that our primary mission is to "shut up and color" when orders come down.
The CVA is most certainly not a democracy, and that seems to be what Gnarrkilly's issue boils down to, to be honest.
Odd, that.
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Jedi Darklord
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:51:00 -
[53]
Originally by: kincajou niten
Regarding the issue, I still hope the people who left will eventually see what they did wrong.
Well i know i have done nothing wrong other than to accept an invitation from a friend to join a corp more suited to what we want to achieve for our subscription.
To Camar and Naphtalia, your support will always be welcome.
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Camar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:04:00 -
[54]
Mr. Tomahawk Bliss, Fimbulwinter works in a bit different way then most (all?) other alliances. Each new corporation accepted becomes a new Cell sharing the same target-selection and code of honor/conduct.
Each cell can, and will, operate by itself as well as with other Cells. But since it is not democratic and in the end an extension of the SRS vision it cannot falter by one Cell turning a full 360.
But in all honesty, I just LOVE the idea of former loyalists shooting at "former friends", there is such beauty in that
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:05:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Jedi Darklord
more suited to what we want to achieve for our subscription.
ISD, we've got an outbreak. Need containment ASAP.
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Khan Rodak
Amarr
Manu Dei
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:08:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Jedi Darklord
Well i know i have done nothing wrong other than to accept an invitation from a friend to join a corp more suited to what we want to achieve for our subscription.
To Camar and Naphtalia, your support will always be welcome.
So, the suport of terrorists and outlaws will fit you to achive what you want with your... hum... your what exactly?
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Khan Rodak
Amarr
Manu Dei
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:13:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Khan Rodak
I just wonder if this has anything to do with the opening of CVA ranks to foreign pilots.
I assure you, Lord Rodak, that this is not the case. As the first of the lesser races admitted into the CVA, I have taken it upon myself to make it understood to any who followed my footsteps that our primary mission is to "shut up and color" when orders come down.
The CVA is most certainly not a democracy, and that seems to be what Gnarrkilly's issue boils down to, to be honest.
Odd, that.
If thatÆs the case, and knowing you, your attitude, behaviour and skills, I rest not assured, not happy (as I'd love to see CVA pure as it was once) but I'm, certainly less concerned.
Just truly hope you succeed on that task, Garreck.
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Jedi Darklord
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:32:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Khan Rodak
So, the suport of terrorists and outlaws will fit you to achive what you want with your... hum... your what exactly?
I accept their support because they are the only ones offering any. 4 months with the CVA apparently counts for nothing.
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Acron Ishtal
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:39:00 -
[59]
Ahh, the true nature of a mercenary.
You are not fit to serve the empire, faith being a prerequisite. Run to your new allies if you must. While you may have parted company as neutrals, I suspect you will not long remain so.
When my faith is tested, I shall not falter. My heart is pure, my path righteous, and my vengeance unstopable. Tremble before the wrath of god, for I am a vessel of his will.
You have failed your test. All that remains is your judgement...
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Montague Zooma
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:45:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Jedi Darklord
Originally by: kincajou niten
Regarding the issue, I still hope the people who left will eventually see what they did wrong.
Well i know i have done nothing wrong other than to accept an invitation from a friend to join a corp more suited to what we want to achieve for our subscription.
To Camar and Naphtalia, your support will always be welcome.
Indeed, we were all prepared to wish everyone well. Then, of course, Gnarrkilly starts throwing mud on the good name of CVA. Quite an auspicious beginning for your new leader...or for someone at least claiming to be your leader/spokesman.
Perhaps now Gnarrkilly realizes why CVA leadership didn't always adopt his suggestions. Leadership carries a great deal of responsibility with it. Good leaders weigh the consequences of their actions. Gnarr either didn't think through the effects of his announcement here, or he just plain didn't care how it affected the rest of you.
Leadership ain't as easy as it looks. Follow Gnarrkilly at your own peril.
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Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:56:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Hardin on 15/11/2006 18:00:32
Originally by: Jedi Darklord
Well i know i have done nothing wrong other than to accept an invitation from a friend to join a corp more suited to what we want to achieve for our subscription.
If you had left quietly then you would have done nothing wrong after all we do not force our pilots to defend the Empire - that is a matter of their choice - as it was your choice to join us in the first place.
As it stands you threw in your lot with someone who immediately decided to turn on his old friends in a fit of pique and then to compound matters you demonstrate clearly that you never had any loyalty to the CVA or the Amarr Empire in the first place when you stated that
Originally by: Jedi Darklord
To Camar and Naphtalia, your support will always be welcome.
I assume that you know that Camar has been a long standing terrorist and enemy of Amarrians everywhere? I suppose you know that Napthalia is a known pirate?
Yet you seem more than willing to accept their crude and cheap inducements. Have you no pride? You sell yourself like a cheap Caldari hooker.
You shame yourself and you shame your race.
I was sad when I heard that Gnarrkilly had decided to leave but now I see that it was actually a blessing - cleansing us of those pilots lacking morale fibre and fortitude.
I think Montague Zooma summed things up nicely:
Originally by: Montague Zooma
Indeed, we were all prepared to wish everyone well. Then, of course, Gnarrkilly starts throwing mud on the good name of CVA. Quite an auspicious beginning for your new leader...or for someone at least claiming to be your leader/spokesman.
Perhaps now Gnarrkilly realizes why CVA leadership didn't always adopt his suggestions. Leadership carries a great deal of responsibility with it. Good leaders weigh the consequences of their actions. Gnarr either didn't think through the effects of his announcement here, or he just plain didn't care how it affected the rest of you.
Leadership ain't as easy as it looks. Follow Gnarrkilly at your own peril.
Indeed...
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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.15 17:58:00 -
[62]
Quote:
Leadership ain't as easy as it looks. Follow Gnarrkilly at your own peril.
They say an idiot cannot hear reason even if a thousand people speak it. It seems that is true. Allow me to repeat myself. Everyone who has left and joined me agreed that the opening speech should be broadcast and that it is how they felt. There is no blindly following a crazed man here.
Perhaps someone can draw a tapestry of these events for those Amarrians who are so blinded by their own arrogance and pride who are no longer able to read.
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Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:02:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Hardin on 15/11/2006 18:02:09
Originally by: Gnarrkilly
Everyone who has left and joined me agreed that the opening speech should be broadcast and that it is how they felt.
In which case you have just made Jedi Darklord's protestations of innocent victimhood look even more ridiculous...
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Acron Ishtal
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:02:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Acron Ishtal on 15/11/2006 18:04:14
Perhaps you should see to your friends/followers...
Not all of them agree with your actions. Some, at least, seemed to want to remain on good terms with the CVA. If you truly speak for them, you might want to ask as to what exactly they would like said on their behalf, lest you drag them down with you.
Or was it that you claim you were tired of being treated as a footsoldier? So you do the same to your fellow men? Interesting. Either your are a hypocrit, or a liar.
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an13810
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:04:00 -
[65]
Regarding the issue, I still hope the people who left will eventually see what they did wrong.
I dont feel I have done anything wrong at all. These are the pilots who I fly with the majority of the time and the pilots who I have become very good friends with. Is that bad?
I have not said nothing this whole time but to be called a radical by one of the commanders I was most loyal, stood in arms by his side, and standing my ground upon every command he ordered on the battlefield no matter what the outcome personally hurts a little. I am here for fun, not here to give grief to anyone. Clearly this is getting spread farther out than your primary and now you are calling secondary targets. CVA are pure pwnage no doubt and I have learned alot and some will be truly missed cough (Vantras, Antireal, Speedie, Equi, Stic, Mad4it,HARDIN) cough
Hardin, we will make a name for ourselves and personally I will not use the the reputation of CVA's Amarrian Iron fist of pwnage in order to get that name, so no worries there. We are a small pvp patrol team that just want to have fun that is all. I dont have much time before real life takes over for 1 year in a far off land, i just want some fun before then. Take care all and best wishes. This has to come to a cease TIME NOW.
Deactivate siege mode people and cyno out because this is getting no where.
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Khan Rodak
Amarr
Manu Dei
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:05:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Jedi Darklord
Originally by: Khan Rodak
So, the suport of terrorists and outlaws will fit you to achive what you want with your... hum... your what exactly?
I accept their support because they are the only ones offering any. 4 months with the CVA apparently counts for nothing.
You start an hostile thread against CVA, what you expected? Cool down, make your path acordingly to God's path and maybe you'll be recognaised and suport will be offered, accordingly to you mission and statements. Not this way.
This way, you only call despised beeing near you. That, wont take you far.
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:16:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Jedi Darklord
To Camar and Naphtalia, your support will always be welcome.
There goes your loyalty and your duty. Down the drain, Mr Darklord. Joining Minmatarr rebels and pirates sais all there is to say about what your group aims for and what reasons you may have for it.
I guess not many are really suited for the Duty towards God and the Empire.
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:18:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Jedi Darklord on 15/11/2006 18:21:48
Having read gnarr's post before it was made public and having read it over and over again i am still unable to see which element of the post "throws mud in the face" of CVA, all i see is a former member disillusioned with his role within the CVA and posed a question of loyalty upon his departure, that incidently is still to be answered. It is true that have only 1 side of the story and would expect CVA members and especially you Hardin to have more composure and not to resort to cheap name calling.
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Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:22:00 -
[69]
Originally by: an13810
Reasonable post + This has to come to a cease TIME NOW.
Agreed out of respect for you.
But please ask your colleagues to also cease their threatening posts about 'returning to CVA space with war fleets' or being happy to accept aid from know CVA enemies aka Stormriders / Black Rabbits.
That kind of thing just alienates people. Seriously!
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Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:22:00 -
[70]
The Communications Relay Committee has conducted an investigation and has run the FTL through filter to remove illicit communiquTs.
Karass Sayfo, Ensign
((Please remain civil and constructive. OOC-induced smack/trolling/flames will be nerfed, and OOC talk should be taken to the Corporations, Alliances and Organizations Discussions forums. ))
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Siobhan
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:26:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Siobhan on 15/11/2006 18:30:53
I echo what my brother Hardin just said 
You go your way we will go ours and let the memory of our heroic battles side by side against Minmatar terrorists and pirates be all that unites us...
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Jedi Darklord
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:33:00 -
[72]
I have no intension to return to CVA space with a "war fleet" and as an1 said we are here to have some fun and thats what we intend to do.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:48:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Siobhan
Edited by: Siobhan on 15/11/2006 18:30:53
I echo what my brother Hardin just said
You go your way we will go ours and let the memory of our heroic battles side by side against Minmatar terrorists and pirates be all that unites us...
Ooh I love it when you talk dirty.
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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innot
Minmatar
The Knighthawks
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 22:18:00 -
[74]
Garreck, your a disgrace to your race
Long live the Republic!!
"Death to amarr"
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.11.15 22:28:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Hardin
Yet you seem more than willing to accept their crude and cheap inducements. Have you no pride? You sell yourself like a cheap Caldari hooker.
Now now Hardin, I can understand your frustation with these people that have left CVA, but no need to confuse us with the Gallente. The only place you'd find a 'cheap Caldari hooker', would be the Federation, and they'd most likely consider themselves Gallente.
I wish luck to some of these people who are leaving the CVA, and hope that if they are indeed staying loyal to the empire, that they distance themselves from those who are showing themsleves to be turning.
Originally by: kieron
The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 22:34:00 -
[76]
Originally by: innot
Garreck, you're a disgrace to your race
Disgrace to "my race?" Senators speaking on the floor under a cranial micro-controller-induced fantasies is a disgrace. 2-year long election foul-ups are a disgrace. "My race" disgraces itself in every way concievable. I'm sure they have a think-tank somewhere just dreaming up ways for the Gallente to top themselves in the disgrace department. They don't need any help from me.
I would also point out that "my race" promotes free will and individual decision making so probably doesn't even care about how I live my life.
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innot
Minmatar
The Knighthawks
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 22:41:00 -
[77]
*shakes her head*
poor..... poor man, i pity you, i really do.
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HarelquinXepa
Amarria Auxilia
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.15 23:10:00 -
[78]
Hah! This is great news, I hope more CVA pilots mutiny against their leaders and leave.
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Ramruqai
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.16 01:27:00 -
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So much hate, so many words. I find this silly from all sides, specialy thoose who have no attatchments to the matter at all.
I have flown with you alot Gnarr and tought you alot. CVA has tought you all you know in thoose 1 year and 6 months you have been talking so much about. In history of all organisations there will be a time where people disagree on things so much that it will resort to fighing. Wether it is with words or lasers. Even though I am strongly against your actions Gnarr I am afraid I must say that if you belive them to be the correct ones then act them out. Leave CVA go do your own thing, go do what you think CVA should be doing. I know for a fact you don't want to do CVA harm or else you never would have gone by our rules for 1 year and 6 months. So do your self and us a favor and let things lie peacefuly you know you don't want hurt feelings.
The biggest damage is done though, you have made yourself KOS to CVA for direct insults to our leader. Don't make it worse by getting your corp to our KOS list as well.
If you choose to serve the empire in your way without interfeering with the plans of other Amarr loyalist I salute you and wish you all well. If you do on the otherhand choose to be an enemy of the CVA then I have nothing more to say to you. Our lasers can debate hopefuly you won't even get to enjoy that fight. Then you will be robbed the only thing you care for. The thrill of furious laser fire and rescitance of thick Amarrian armor.
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Posted - 2006.11.16 02:58:00 -
[80]
Ok, that said and done cease fire, cease fire, I say again cease fire.
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Naphtalia
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.11.16 08:20:00 -
[81]
Quote:
You have freedom to do what you want as long as you do what we want
Right, good going Religio-Fascists
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WilfredTheSmart
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.16 14:15:00 -
[82]
Edited by: WilfredTheSmart on 16/11/2006 14:24:51
Originally by: Ramruqai
So much hate, so many words. I find this silly from all sides, specialy thoose who have no attatchments to the matter at all.
I have flown with you alot Gnarr and tought you alot. CVA has tought you all you know in thoose 1 year and 6 months you have been talking so much about. In history of all organisations there will be a time where people disagree on things so much that it will resort to fighing. Wether it is with words or lasers. Even though I am strongly against your actions Gnarr I am afraid I must say that if you belive them to be the correct ones then act them out. Leave CVA go do your own thing, go do what you think CVA should be doing. I know for a fact you don't want to do CVA harm or else you never would have gone by our rules for 1 year and 6 months. So do your self and us a favor and let things lie peacefuly you know you don't want hurt feelings.
The biggest damage is done though, you have made yourself KOS to CVA for direct insults to our leader. Don't make it worse by getting your corp to our KOS list as well.
If you choose to serve the empire in your way without interfeering with the plans of other Amarr loyalist I salute you and wish you all well. If you do on the otherhand choose to be an enemy of the CVA then I have nothing more to say to you. Our lasers can debate hopefuly you won't even get to enjoy that fight. Then you will be robbed the only thing you care for. The thrill of furious laser fire and rescitance of thick Amarrian armor.
I note the mighty Amarr "empire" educational system needs some attention!
spot the other mistakes ! 200k for each mistake noticed.
"When only a few are oppressed, none are free"
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Solusar
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.16 14:26:00 -
[83]
Originally by: WilfredTheSmart
Originally by: Ramruqai
So much hate, so many words. I find this silly from all sides, specialy thoose who have no attatchments to the matter at all.
I have flown with you alot Gnarr and tought you alot. CVA has tought you all you know in thoose 1 year and 6 months you have been talking so much about. In history of all organisations there will be a time where people disagree on things so much that it will resort to fighing. Wether it is with words or lasers. Even though I am strongly against your actions Gnarr I am afraid I must say that if you belive them to be the correct ones then act them out. Leave CVA go do your own thing, go do what you think CVA should be doing. I know for a fact you don't want to do CVA harm or else you never would have gone by our rules for 1 year and 6 months. So do your self and us a favor and let things lie peacefuly you know you don't want hurt feelings.
The biggest damage is done though, you have made yourself KOS to CVA for direct insults to our leader. Don't make it worse by getting your corp to our KOS list as well.
If you choose to serve the empire in your way without interfeering with the plans of other Amarr loyalist I salute you and wish you all well. If you do on the otherhand choose to be an enemy of the CVA then I have nothing more to say to you. Our lasers can debate hopefuly you won't even get to enjoy that fight. Then you will be robbed the only thing you care for. The thrill of furious laser fire and rescitance of thick Amarrian armor.
I note the mighty Amarr "empire" educational system needs some attention!
"When only a few are oppressed, none are free"
Brother Ramruqai's native tongue is not that used on Galnet. It shows how little relevance is left in this communication if it has degenerated so far.
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WilfredTheSmart
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.16 14:30:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Solusar
Originally by: WilfredTheSmart
Originally by: Ramruqai
So much hate, so many words. I find this silly from all sides, specialy thoose who have no attatchments to the matter at all.
I have flown with you alot Gnarr and tought you alot. CVA has tought you all you know in thoose 1 year and 6 months you have been talking so much about. In history of all organisations there will be a time where people disagree on things so much that it will resort to fighing. Wether it is with words or lasers. Even though I am strongly against your actions Gnarr I am afraid I must say that if you belive them to be the correct ones then act them out. Leave CVA go do your own thing, go do what you think CVA should be doing. I know for a fact you don't want to do CVA harm or else you never would have gone by our rules for 1 year and 6 months. So do your self and us a favor and let things lie peacefuly you know you don't want hurt feelings.
The biggest damage is done though, you have made yourself KOS to CVA for direct insults to our leader. Don't make it worse by getting your corp to our KOS list as well.
If you choose to serve the empire in your way without interfeering with the plans of other Amarr loyalist I salute you and wish you all well. If you do on the otherhand choose to be an enemy of the CVA then I have nothing more to say to you. Our lasers can debate hopefuly you won't even get to enjoy that fight. Then you will be robbed the only thing you care for. The thrill of furious laser fire and rescitance of thick Amarrian armor.
I note the mighty Amarr "empire" educational system needs some attention!
"When only a few are oppressed, none are free"
Brother Ramruqai's native tongue is not that used on Galnet. It shows how little relevance is left in this communication if it has degenerated so far.
Fair enough
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.16 14:50:00 -
[85]
The reactions of its enemies on this thread speaks volumes of the power and reputation of the CVA.
Amarr Victor!
Long live the Empire,
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.16 15:56:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Siobhan
Edited by: Siobhan on 15/11/2006 18:30:53
I echo what my brother Hardin just said
You go your way we will go ours and let the memory of our heroic battles side by side against Minmatar terrorists and pirates be all that unites us...
Ah, the ever radiant Siobhan graces us with her presence, as striking as ever.
It's been a while. I do hope you are in good health as you appear, dear lady
I'll be watching the hostile exhanges between Imperial loyalists with much interest...
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Russo
Amarria Auxilia
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.16 16:57:00 -
[87]
Join AMAX, kill everything, keep heaven packed with fresh souls.
Russo - CEO Amarria Auxilia
XL pod for an XL personality
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 13:37:00 -
[88]
all the best of luck to you!
it was a pleasure to fly, fight and triumph alongside you!
Originally by: George Petsch
Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
My sig is blue not pink although i can't argue with the slave part - Xorus
wth whats this blue stuff all of a sudden? Did I miss a mail? -eris
Bwahahahaha!11 Immy was here
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Sidyous
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.20 23:40:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Sidyous on 20/11/2006 23:40:33
Evening all,
Due to the following proof that TET is actively becoming a pirate corporation in their recruitment policy the entire corporation will be considered Kill On Sight in CVA space. Sorry to those that we were willing to allow access to our sapce but this takes it too far.
Kind Regards
Lord Sidyous
CEO Auctoritan Syndicate
Leader of the CVA
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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.21 00:31:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Sidyous
Edited by: Sidyous on 20/11/2006 23:40:33
Evening all,
Due to the following proof that TET is actively becoming a pirate corporation in their recruitment policy the entire corporation will be considered Kill On Sight in CVA space. Sorry to those that we were willing to allow access to our sapce but this takes it too far.
Kind Regards
Lord Sidyous
CEO Auctoritan Syndicate
Leader of the CVA
Ah the puppet to the mantle of cva has returned. We don't consider the destruction of potentially hostile vessels in 0.0 space an act of piracy. This is just your clouded and over zealous mind.
The term "piracy" means to take/destroy something that legally belongs to another party.
You see in 0.0 space there are no laws no guidelines and no one to enforce them. When people enter this no mans land, they are aware of what they are stepping into.
We are merely reacting to potential competitors for our new homeland tresspassing into our space.
Im suprised you find time to study our actions so much. I hear some friends of mine are visiting your space again. No doubt you are busy cowering in the station? Your petty empty threats mean nothing to us, but yet you continue to provoke us after we left peacefully. I shall have to dwell on this.
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Sidyous
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.21 01:04:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Gnarrkilly
Originally by: Sidyous
Edited by: Sidyous on 20/11/2006 23:40:33
Evening all,
Due to the following proof that TET is actively becoming a pirate corporation in their recruitment policy the entire corporation will be considered Kill On Sight in CVA space. Sorry to those that we were willing to allow access to our sapce but this takes it too far.
Kind Regards
Lord Sidyous
CEO Auctoritan Syndicate
Leader of the CVA
Ah the puppet to the mantle of cva has returned. We don't consider the destruction of potentially hostile vessels in 0.0 space an act of piracy. This is just your clouded and over zealous mind.
The term "piracy" means to take/destroy something that legally belongs to another party.
You see in 0.0 space there are no laws no guidelines and no one to enforce them. When people enter this no mans land, they are aware of what they are stepping into.
We are merely reacting to potential competitors for our new homeland tresspassing into our space.
Im suprised you find time to study our actions so much. I hear some friends of mine are visiting your space again. No doubt you are busy cowering in the station?
Gnarrkilly you know as well as I that your threats are insignificant and me and my corporation alone could wipe yours out of existence. What I do find amusing is that the guy is looking for piracy and you head straight for him to offer him what he wants. Lets not forget you started this whole affair. You could have left peacefully, many of us wished you well in your travels, however you insisted on attempting to destabalise the area, I do wonder if you ever had any loyalty to the CVA let alone the Empire who we do this for.
It really doesn't surprise me that you claim to be friends with such rogues infact it wouldn't surprise me if the very reason you left was to help them out. No wonder you didn't get to fight them, you ally yourself with them.
The very fact that you sent others to collect your things demonstrates your cowardice, if you were such a good fighter you would have been able to come straight through CVA space untouched, but for some reason our searches showed you cowering in a 0.5 system some distance away from those that you obviously fear. I do feel sorry for those weak minds that followed your lies and deceit.
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Your petty empty threats mean nothing to us, but yet you continue to provoke us after we left peacefully. I shall have to dwell on this.
Just a note on the above, I never did threaten to come after you or even send anyone, I stated that you are KOS in CVA space and you are, the only one issuing threats here seems to be you.
Kind Regards
Lord Sidyous
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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.21 01:27:00 -
[92]
Hmm? My posessions left CVA patrolled space the day I did. No one collected my things for me. I flew most of my ships here myself as to not invalidate the insurance.
I find it very humorous you used your locator agents to find me. So very cunning of you Sid. I can see why you made it to leader. Although if you had checked my publicly shown pilot and corporation info you would have seen where we had set up our new base as can anyone who decides to check this. You truly are a man of remarkable intellect. We are not hiding and you are *very* welcome to visit our space. You claim that you can sweep us aside with such EASE... then why have you not done it already??
Like most of CVA Sid you TALK a good fight. Sit back in your station watch as your systems are overrun with pirates and terrorists and spend your long days dreaming about how you COULD destroy us.
Your alliance is already destabilsied and was long before I left I merely opened a door for people to start down a new road.
It is the pirates and terrorists who decide who can through *your* space not you.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.21 05:56:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Gnarrkilly
Like most of CVA Sid you TALK a good fight. Sit back in your station watch as your systems are overrun with pirates and terrorists and spend your long days dreaming about how you COULD destroy us.
You make comments like this, but you wonder why kill stats are brought into the picture to rebut.
Originally by: Gnarrkilly
It is the pirates and terrorists who decide who can through *your* space not you.
Laughable. But, hey, you're welcome to bring your thugs down and test the theory.
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.21 08:05:00 -
[94]
So this is where ambition has gotten you then, Gnarrkilly.
Disgraced.
Enjoy the easy path, may it bring you your dues.
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Vantras
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.21 16:36:00 -
[95]
Just another lazy pirate corp...Nothing to see here really...
Gnarr you know where to find us..nothing would please me more then to teach you what fighting for a cause really means!
Enjoy being "GENERIC PIRATE CORP #45665" and know that you once stood for something meaningful.
Vantras
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Gnarrkilly
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.21 16:50:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Vantras
Just another lazy pirate corp...Nothing to see here really...
Gnarr you know where to find us..nothing would please me more then to teach you what fighting for a cause really means!
Enjoy being "GENERIC PIRATE CORP #45665" and know that you once stood for something meaningful.
Vantras
Our recruitment process is open to all (yes even pirates) then if they pass the vetting process they are allowed to join our corporation on a trial period. I find those who spend their lives fighting for survival are most dependable in combat. CVA of all people should understand this, alot of your members and your allies members are ex pirates who have been "redeemed" there is hope for everyone who seeks redemption.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.21 16:54:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Gnarrkilly
Our recruitment process is open to all (yes even pirates) then if they pass the vetting process they are allowed to join our corporation on a trial period. I find those who spend their lives fighting for survival are most dependable in combat. CVA of all people should understand this, alot of your members and your allies members are ex pirates who have been "redeemed" there is hope for everyone who seeks redemption.
Garreck's brow furrows as he considers...
This seems to be a far more acceptable tone from The Tet Corporation, and an entirely reasonable approach.
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Mighty Baz
HUSARIA
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Posted - 2006.11.22 07:11:00 -
[98]
i lost drift , we are talking about wardogs or warcats or sth else...?
...You are as a thrown stone on a road of destiny...
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an13810
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Posted - 2006.11.22 12:40:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Sidyous
I do feel sorry for those weak minds that followed your lies and deceit. Originally by: An13810
Do not insult me Lord Sidyous as I have given you respect as well as your alliance members thus far.
You set us kos for breaking what CVA rule?
Need I remind you there were many times I could not lock and engage a target with me knowing the target was from a pirate corporation but not on the kos list and not from providence or surrounding area. (Further intel needed) was said
Need I remind you that CVA lets non local corporations that are known to have pirated in there own region fix there sec rating in CVA space as long as they dont shoot the locals or CVA. I have had to break lock or disengage because of that under direct orders. Under the grounds that they have not pirated in CVA space or surrounding area, therefore NOT kos.
Need I remind you that particular Merc corps are set back to alliance neutral after there contract has ended against CVA.
I admit Gnarrkilly has probably initiated a war of words but CVA has taken it a couple of steps further and made a whole corporation kos because of WORDS . Is that the CVA way? I think not
Let me remind you. Aparticular leader of a friendly alliance directly insulted you not once but many times. Yet never was there alliance set to kos hmmm, is that not the NEW rule you have set on us?
I believe you have taken your personal feelings, the feelings of some Imperial Dreams members and have dragged your alliance into it. Meaning setting a new image toward CVA in a whole. Basically twisting the rules at any given time to suit you and a minority of others.
Basiclly saying dont insult anyone in CVA or they will shoot you. Yet you just insulted me and everyone who followed Gnarrkilly stating we have weak minds.
Many of you say that Gnarrkilly is dwelling on CVA but I think you and some others need to take a step back look around you and notice that you are dwelling on Gnarrkilly. You all infact need to let Gnarrkilly go and let him be.
Never have I seen a whole alliance give such attention to a small corporation and what they think we are up to. You place us guilty for who we recruit yet one of your best pilots were expirate. I have given my fair share in CVA and I was expirate. Again twisting the rules to suit your personal feeling toward Gnarrkilly.
With this senseless act of placing a corporation that is no where near them kos after all the events that are stated above just makes CVA another common everyday alliance #234657
only to have placed a false image of yourselfs making honest pilots believe a false vision in order to accomplish your true objective.
How about CVA finally leave us in peace for the love of Amarr already. I think you have enough issues that are more important at the moment.
Still i say it was fun flying with most of you and to some a great honor. CVA leaders have taken it down to this (not us)
regards An13810
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Sidyous
Amarr
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.23 02:01:00 -
[100]
Good Morning an,
Perhaps weak minded was a bit harsh. I'm glad to see someone else has a voice in your corporation. I have not changed policy, in the past we have made people who used words in their bios to state they were enemies of the Empire or Pirates Kill On Sight before and it is more than just words that brought me to the decision. I still do respect a number of you who left and it was well earned.
This was not an easy decision to make by any means, personal feelings were not a factor, as with the friendly alliance leader you mentioned (if they were then you can work out how things would have turned out). This is also not just about Gnarr, perhaps one day Kalazaar would like to explain why he decided to place a large order for tech 2 equipment and ships shortly before leaving when he knew such items were provided at a discount for use in the defense of the area and the Empire, not for resale or use (potentially) against us. This action alone can be considered not much better than corp theft.
As I say some of you still have my respect (including you an) and as stated my words were harsh. Perhaps one day you can visit our space again, but for now I stand by my decision and my reasons behind it.
For those of you I still respect, I wish you the best of luck.
Regards
Lord Sidyous
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an13810
Amarr
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.23 11:32:00 -
[101]
Edited by: an13810 on 23/11/2006 11:42:48
I guess you have your reasons as you said, some that I fail to agree in, as in if we are put to kos for words and assumed pirate activity. I can assure you we are not pirates as you can officially see here
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=429806
We will strive to be an honorable, respected, aggressive, and highly mobile corporation at no moment to be underestimated. As for 0.0, we are not in your space and 0.0 is lawless as we all well know since we were cadets in the flight simulator. So we will conduct live fire exercises in 0.0 to sustain an optimal training program for our corporation. If we happen to pass through your space for one reason or another (personally asset recovery) and if engaged by neutral or CVA then by all means we will have to go weapons free. Being locked is included in that factor. I have put our intentions clearly on the table.
Lord Gnarrkilly has never voted, mentioned, or suggested to us to go on a insurgency mission into your space despite your decision of aggression nor has he helped, hinted, or used a 3rd party in giving CVA intel to anyone good or bad. So that assumption is smashed here and now. He has other objectives to tend to than conduct an offensive that will have no meaning or mercenary profit. Given the situation you have put him and us as a whole we have been very level headed, patient, cool, and calm. That explains why no one has voiced out until now as we have been trying to neutralize the situation in this public council and maybe you can resolve this with Lord Gnarrkilly and CVA between closed doors. This has gone too long fueling this fire here that clearly not getting no where. Insulting, assuming, impulsive decisions, and questioning there very definition of Amarrian man from both sides will have no result at the end but more hate, more guns pointed at both parties. Only setting your objective further back for expanding the amarrian empire. At no point we fear that you put us on kos and we ( I ) am not crawling forward to resolve the matter because of that decision. Merely I am trying to resolve this matter and bring this between closed doors because we once were comrades flying on the same flight pattern.
Yes Yes Lord Gnarrkilly was the one to bring a statement to the public council but both have said there piece in the public arena there is no need to draw this out any further. It is time, it is time to take this in a more private matter.
I appreciate your response to be civil and very neutral.
Amarr Victor <--- whoops hard habit to break 
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Roland De'chain
The Tet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.23 11:36:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Sidyous
Gnarrkilly you know as well as I that your threats are insignificant and me and my corporation alone could wipe yours out of existence.
I fail to see these 'threats' that Gnarrkilly has made toward you or the CVA, Infact the only thing i see which could be conceived as a threat here was written by you.
Maybe threat is to strong a word for the above quote boast maybe? or maybe a taunt, i suppose either word would be better suited. In any case whatever effect you were going for you missed.
Originally by: Sidyous
Perhaps weak minded was a bit harsh. I'm glad to see someone else has a voice in your corporation.
I asure you Lord Sidyous, we all have a voice and all in Tet are more than welcome to make use of them, most of us however have found more important things to turn our attention too.
Please do not take our lack of responce as a lack of interest, we are watching this very closley and are taken everything being said into consideration.
I still respect many of the members of the CVA your corporation more than most Sidyous, and i regret this apparant need to make us KOS but that is your desision and i have no doubt you will enforce it.
I have made my standing on the situation clear enough in our private communications and feel no need to repeat it now.
I wish you all the best of luck
Regards
Roland De'chain
Tet Corporation
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