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turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:38:00 - [1] Edited by: turnschuh on 15/11/2006 13:40:32 seams they changed ACs on sisi higher rof but higher dmg mod that sucks imho, I want to keep my high speed ACs vaga tq: dmg mod: 4.9 (not 100%sure) rof: 1.56 vaga sisi: dmg mod: 6.26 rof: 2.08
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:41:00 - [2] It's so they don't need 2k of ammo to kill a single ship. _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
Isyel Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:50:00 - [3] Is it just me or does that mean that a double tempest-like bonus (rof and damage) will be made, well... More evil than it is now by that? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I be needin' some sig love. sigh
Ione Hunt Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:51:00 - [4] If it's to conserve ammo I think it's a good change. Imagine how much ammo you'll need after the HP changes in Kali Have a hauler sit next to you and feed you ammo while you kill stuff, not very practical ________________________________________________
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:52:00 - [5] as long as dps the same sounds like a good change.
Wilfan Ret'nub Singularity.	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:55:00 - [6] If your numbers are correct, sisi vaga does 1,3% more DPS. With lower RoF we'll also get a bit more sensible audio. Currently, ACs sound like some silly machineguns rather that high-velocity cannons. ------ No ISK, no fun
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:55:00 - [7] Originally by: Isyel Is it just me or does that mean that a double tempest-like bonus (rof and damage) will be made, well... More evil than it is now by that? It will have a slightly higher damage mod, and a slightly slower rate of fire. While it means the individual hits will be better, it will lose more DPS if you are moving too fast for one of the volleys to connect (which is very common on the AC pest). _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
Frezik Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:23:00 - [8] Slower RoF also helps server lag (fewer calculations to do).
Ione Hunt Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Wilfan Ret'nub If your numbers are correct, sisi vaga does 1,3% more DPS. OMGOMGOMG, nooooooo...nerf Minmatar!!! ________________________________________________
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:37:00 - [10] Autocannons now have alpha strike! --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:43:00 - [11] Edited by: keepiru on 15/11/2006 14:43:29 AC Hurricane can now 1-volley pods, I demand a nerf! ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:47:00 - [12] We will get higher damage hits this way too, which extends the e-peen from hardly visible to extreamly small. Yay! :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:55:00 - [13] stats from sisi without skills etc eg not fitted so you can compare them to TQ: 180mm: 4.50 rof 2.47 dmg 220mm: 4.72 rof 2.77 dmg 425mm: 5.63 rof 3.46 dmg
Imhotep Khem Total Mayhem.	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:37:00 - [14] Originally by: turnschuh stats from sisi without skills etc eg not fitted so you can compare them to TQ: 180mm: 4.50 rof 2.47 dmg 220mm: 4.72 rof 2.77 dmg 425mm: 5.63 rof 3.46 dmg Are you showing the T2 numbers or something? If not that is a 10% boost on those 425s. I find that hard to believe. ____ "If your not dyin' your not tryin'." "Are you prepared to go all the way, Alexi?" DuGalle
turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:59:00 - [15] t2 of course, yes
K8 T	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:00:00 - [16] Am I the only one who sees all the recent (and not so recent, missiles..) ammo changes as stealth nerfs to lasers?
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:04:00 - [17] Originally by: K8 T Am I the only one who sees all the recent (and not so recent, missiles..) ammo changes as stealth nerfs to lasers? Ah, but the hitpoint increase is a stealth buff to lasers. It makes having infinite ammo that much more useful.
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:08:00 - [18] Edited by: keepiru on 15/11/2006 17:08:02 Also increase the likelyhood of capping out thanks to cap draw so much higher, and further nerfs EM damage since overplated omniarmortanks are even more ftw in Kali. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.15 17:38:00 - [19] nice
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:15:00 - [20] Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: K8 T Am I the only one who sees all the recent (and not so recent, missiles..) ammo changes as stealth nerfs to lasers? Ah, but the hitpoint increase is a stealth buff to lasers. It makes having infinite ammo that much more useful. I wasn't aware my capacitor, which is my ammo, was infinite Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:20:00 - [21] Hmm...time for a fiddle with EVE-Mon I think.....A/C's did used to irritate me with their insane ammo consumption. (Empty Space - Thinking)
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Wilfan Ret'nub If your numbers are correct, sisi vaga does 1,3% more DPS. With lower RoF we'll also get a bit more sensible audio. Currently, ACs sound like some silly machineguns rather that high-velocity cannons. Heh with dual 180's my sound usually bugs after like 10 seconds of fire and i can't hear them anymore cause they are firing too quick. But really we get a tiny boost in dps, and with the upcoming hp hitpoints it won't cost 1million isk worth of barrage to kill something anymore. Rof/dmg bonus ships will also get a better dps boost from their bonii now. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:22:00 - [23] \o/ About time.
MOS DEF E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:48:00 - [24] Long range blasters without cap use eh?
MECTO Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:55:00 - [25] Edited by: MECTO on 15/11/2006 18:59:52 Originally by: MOS DEF Long range blasters without cap use eh? well devs make all changes for minm to be comfortable in kali, bear with it edit: Q:minmatar alpha strike nerfed! A: ok, we give u dmg boost! Q: autocannons consume too much ammo! A: ok, we revamp the ACs to deal more dmg, and have less rof! Q: why barrage not nerfed! A: cause minnie are hardcore! Q: Amarr are too weak, eanm problem, fittin problems, t1 lack of ships, EM dmg sucks, cap problems in kali! ABADDON BLOWS! A: Amarr? wtf is it? we don't play amarr! It's Great Being Carebear in Kali - aint it? Originally by: Tuxford In this picture you might think that Gallente totally pwn. Well they're alright
Spaced Skunk Yesodic Nomads Corp	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:56:00 - [26] Its so Minmatar can keep up with The great cap booster wars of Revelations.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:58:00 - [27] Originally by: MECTO Originally by: MOS DEF Long range blasters without cap use eh? well devs make all changes for minm to be comfortable in kali, bear with it If that were true there would be no warp to zero. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.15 19:02:00 - [28] They are likely raising the cap of all ships to not give minmatar and caldari such a huge boost in Kali. Then gallente and amarr will have cap to fire their guns as usual, even with longer battles, and balance is restored. Yes, I know Amarr has problems with EANM II. They are looking into a possible solution. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Angus McLean Gallente Divinity Trials	Posted - 2006.11.15 19:12:00 - [29] Originally by: Jim McGregor They are likely raising the cap of all ships to not give minmatar and caldari such a huge boost in Kali. Then gallente and amarr will have cap to fire their guns as usual, even with longer battles, and balance is restored. Yes, I know Amarr has problems with EANM II. They are looking into a possible solution. lolololol I say drop the boost of EANM II's from 20% EM to 10% and the rest stay 20%
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.15 19:14:00 - [30] Or change the universal hardeners into 3 dmg type hardeners. Inv= EM/Kin/Them and EANM=Kin/Exp/Therm ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?

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