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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:16:00 -
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This idea is going to scare some of my share holders I know, the idea scares me some as well, but over all I think it will work.
The Plan.
Help New people getting into industry and trading get a head start.
Thoughts
My thoughts on this are simple. I want to help newer people in the industry and trading to get going without having to start up an IPO or beg for a few hundred million isk or maybe even 50mil if that is what is needed.
How It Works
Basicly if you have an idea, POS's, BPO's, what ever it may be but need 10mil to 250mil in isk to get it started, send me the basics of your plan. I will then look into your character some, have a conversation or two just to make sure I understand the plan, and possibly even use TeamSpeak just as an extra precaution. If I find that I feel I can trust you, and I find that you have a plan that I like and feel will work PCT will back your idea up with the isk to get it started, and we will work on a plan on how it would be benificial to my share holders and myself. I am willing to listen to all kinds of idea's and thoughts, making BPC's, building t1 ammo, starting up a small POS to see how it works so forth and so on. I am putting 3bil isk twoards this project at first to see how it works, I plan on not giving out isk for the projects if it can be helped, but to actually supply the goods needed for the project. BPO's, POS's, what ever it may be.
I hope this will help the Eve Community and possibly get some great new idea's explored that are currently in the trash can do to not having the isk needed.
To my share holders.
I know people will try and scam from this, I am sure some will get away with it, but I am hoping through my research, and my gut feelings I will weed some of these out and make enough profit and isk with the good guys, that the scammers wont matter much. -----------------------------------------------
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:18:00 -
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A good idea.
Require screenshots of character screen created quickly and so on. Since you're only investing a few hundred million to each person, there's no way they would sacrifice a few-month-old main character to scam that little from you.
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:24:00 -
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Dark that is what I was thinking as well when I came up with this idea. Not many people are going to go through all the work to scam a few hundred mil, but many new players will go through the work to actually create somthing. Atleast this is my hope -----------------------------------------------
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:27:00 -
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Isn't this what BMBE is supposed to be doing? I mean, they're not doing it, so kudos to you for filling a vacuum in the market. It sounds like fun. _
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.15 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux Isn't this what BMBE is supposed to be doing? I mean, they're not doing it, so kudos to you for filling a vacuum in the market. It sounds like fun.
BMBE only does it for collateral, which is why they have failed.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:02:00 -
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Ah, I knew there was something holding them back. I stand corrected. _
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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:05:00 -
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Amusingly enough I have thought several times about going through BMBE.
The first was for a full set of Cap Ship BPO's from someone leaving the game. They had every BPO needed to build a Wyvern and were willing to sell it all as one lump for 75% of market value.
The second was a Helios BPO I could have snagged.
Each time what happened that stopped me was how inflexible the program was. I felt the weekly interest was high and that the program just wasnt "nimble" enough to suit my purpose. I needed the money, and there was never a prayer that I could pay it back without using those colateral assets fully.
Now having said that, I think BMBE just needs to do what regular banks do when they have huge piles of money sitting around. They need to make it inticing for people to borrow. If I was BMBE I would go find O'Mara and say "Hey, lets build Capitol ships, you and me" -- I would talk to Proton Power and say "What could you do with a 20 billion isk infusion"
They need to put that money to work, just like a bank would. If people arent pounding on your door, get yourself a loan office and have them FIND people who need the money, who have ideas and talent.
(PS - I love your idea Proton)
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:33:00 -
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No offense, but can we try not discuss another IPO that has really nothing to do with this current project. -----------------------------------------------
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 21:02:00 -
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Sorry about that. Although it does serve to compare and contrast your service with that provided by BMBE. With BMBE, you need collateral. With PCT, you need a good idea that will make money.
Oh, and I don't think PCT is an "IPO." An IPO is something a corporation does when it goes public, not something that it is.
And now, back to the topic at hand. If I didn't already have more money than I need, and my idea of a business plan wasn't "Blow someone up and take their stuff, then sell it," I'd totally look you up. _
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TornSoul
BIG R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.15 22:26:00 -
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Good Luck with it PP.
It's the sort of thing I'd love to do myself - But simply no longer have the time for.
For the BMBE vs PCT - They each cater to very different segments of the market (and functions very differently), theres no "competition" there, so really no point in making that comparison.
I really hope it works - Not so much because of your shareholders , but because of those that actually will get helped by an initiative like this.
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.15 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Good Luck with it PP.
It's the sort of thing I'd love to do myself - But simply no longer have the time for.
For the BMBE vs PCT - They each cater to very different segments of the market (and functions very differently), theres no "competition" there, so really no point in making that comparison.
I really hope it works - Not so much because of your shareholders , but because of those that actually will get helped by an initiative like this.
Thank you for the comments. I agree 100% this really isnt about myself or the shareholders, this is about making Eve a better place, and I really do hope it works. If I break out even or even lose some isk, and help 1 guy enjoy somthing new in the game, it will be worth it to me.
The BMBE vs PCT I can care less about no offense. Just as you pointed out we are 2 very very differant IPO's. -----------------------------------------------
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Farto
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Posted - 2006.11.16 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Farto on 16/11/2006 09:37:11 Sounds good. Very much like a Venture Capitalist. What's the return like and how do you expect to monitor?
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.16 13:43:00 -
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Return will depend on the venture and what they are doing, I am guessing some returns will be 10% until 150% paid then the equipment will be theres to keep. While others will be time frame based, like in 4mths you pay me this much isk. -----------------------------------------------
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Vix3n
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Posted - 2006.11.16 14:48:00 -
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I'm a new player, who has been playing avidly for a month and I have recently been researching the trade industry and have ultimately decided that this is the path that I want to walk with this character. Through my research though, I definately see that there is still an array of options for me to choose. I'm pretty sure that I dont't want to be a miner. I have been toying with trying to figure out the trade routes and such. I started out looking for trade routes near Jita, but I was unable to find anything except for a demand for some (L) Antimatter charges about 11 jumps away.. blablabla the first night of doing simple market deliveries I netted over 3MM ISK with an Iteron I. *pats self on the back* I was utterly impressed with yeild and immediately began training Industrial further.
Anyways, I am seriously interested in the trade industry, and I have a firm understanding of economy, supply/demand, and logistics all together (0431 in the Marine Corps - Logistics) but I dont have any guidance. I would be willing to help out with any current plans that you may have or are thinking about employing. I would be willing to do simple delivery runs or help out in any way I can. I just need some peers to look to for advice and what-not.
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aquontium
Gallente Fourth Circle
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Posted - 2006.11.17 02:45:00 -
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Please send me 2Bn isk.
I'll buy a navy megathron, Centus-X tank it as far as funds allow, blow up people and nick their stuff. I'll send you half the loot/ransoms.
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Vix3n
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Posted - 2006.11.17 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: aquontium Please send me 2Bn isk.
I'll buy a navy megathron, Centus-X tank it as far as funds allow, blow up people and nick their stuff. I'll send you half the loot/ransoms.
Proton, you should edit your post and add *serious ideas and inquiries only*
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NickNaylor Industry
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Posted - 2006.11.17 05:03:00 -
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Hello I have eve-mailed you a business plan, and I hope to participate in your venture. Thank you, signed - NickNaylor
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Algorithm 5
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Posted - 2006.11.18 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Algorithm 5 on 18/11/2006 11:57:13 Edited by: Algorithm 5 on 18/11/2006 11:54:57 Ack, I must have hit New Post instead of Reply, my response ended up here.
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Bramson
Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2006.11.20 08:21:00 -
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I think this is a great idea Proton, also once REVELATIONS is released with the contracts, you will have much more power over lending money to players. I hope this works out for you and helps out the eve community.
/salute
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