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William Diseased
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:20:00 -
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Is it just me or does it seem odd that Matari characters seems to whine the less but yet are still really getting the short end of alot of things ... and then we loose 50 pg on the new bc and a loss turret *sigh* ah oh well we will work around it as always  yarrr |
Brother Todd
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:27:00 -
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 Originally by: William Diseased
Is it just me or does it seem odd that Matari characters seems to whine the less but yet are still really getting the short end of alot of things ... and then we loose 50 pg on the new bc and a loss turret *sigh* ah oh well we will work around it as always yarrr
Yeah, making death threats and screaming bloody murder on the forums counts for nothing then?
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Gragnor
Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2006.11.16 23:00:00 -
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It does if you fly Caldari. Name one Mimitar ship being released in Kali that fits its role and clearly outpoints every other race.
BC - Amarr
BS - Caldari
Mimitar - a shield boosted arty boat that is outranged (FFS). A BC that has its firepower dropped by 14% and loses grid?
Every time Mimitar ships come out they get nerfed bigtime.....just once, I want us to have the well conceived, balanced and thought out ship. JUST ONCE!
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Linkel
Minmatar
Back Home In Time For Tea And Medals
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2006.11.16 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Linkel on 16/11/2006 23:04:10
Ah come on CCP please don't do this!!!! I was well happy with this BC and now they go and nerf it? This is so unfair big time!
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HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm
Eternal Rangers of Terror
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Posted - 2006.11.16 23:32:00 -
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we will survive. for we are Minmatar! 
i personally plan on taking up a new approach to the hurricane. Since we are losing the phat offense, i plan to up my offense w/ an even better defense.
WTB bungee cords: plan on strapping amarr and caldari corpses to my hull to up my HP a bit more, plz contact in-game w/ price and pickup location
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William Diseased
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Posted - 2006.11.17 00:38:00 -
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Yeah us Matari always get buy but i'd like to see a ship once that we dont need to have drone, missile, and turret skills to keep at par with the other races whom can concentrate on just one of them... |
Atar
Perpetua Umbra
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:11:00 -
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had something that was slighly cool, so maybe people would actually want to train for it, but nope, lets ruin it so we can have one more ship that's kinda OK but just the standard junk we always have.
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Rockbox
Amarr
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:41:00 -
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Minmatar get happy about a ship for once.
Ship gets nerfed...
THE OLD HURRICANE SUCKED WAAAAA
Visit us at VETO FORUMS!!1!
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IHaveTenFingers
Caldari
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:45:00 -
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Theres less minmatar than anyone else in game.
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Omatje
Minmatar
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:05:00 -
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Tux doesn't understand the Minmatar concept, Hamar (spelling?) did understand it much better.
Tux finally gave us a ship where you can fit 1 weapon type, so i thought there was hope, but i'm affraid i was wrong.
The main reason why i can still fly Minmatar ships only, is because i hardly do solo pvp, so i rely on the strength of the other ships to get the upperhand in a combat situation and try to make use of the unique abilities that make minnie ships fun to fly.
Sure there are some good Minmatar ships still, like the Rupture, Stabber, Jaguar and Vagabond for solo work, but the rest is not suited for that.
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Linkel
Minmatar
Back Home In Time For Tea And Medals
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:15:00 -
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So what if there is less Minnie's in the game? Man this was not called for really. I hope they put my turret back, or at least give us some kind of compromise.
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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.17 13:22:00 -
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I dont get it. Im caldari who switched to minnie boats because they are best in game. They come up slightly short on the bs side of things but wtf, they dont use cap, at all :D:D:D
Vaga will WTFBBQ almost anything if youre skills are up. Same with the recons.
Even the t1 rifter can put a serious dent in almost any other frig t1 or t2 out there. And the t2 minnie frigs? <3 <3< 3 <3 <3 :)
And come to think of it, what does it matter if minnie gets outranged? When they remove all bms the longest range bs fights is gonna be 100km anyway.
I fly claw, stiletto and jag every day and love it. SoonÖ im gonna be trained enough to use minnie bs properly too. :)
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Gragnor
Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2006.11.17 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Gragnor on 17/11/2006 13:46:26
Originally by: Draahk Chimera
I dont get it. Im caldari who switched to minnie boats because they are best in game. They come up slightly short on the bs side of things but wtf, they dont use cap, at all :D:D:D
Vaga will WTFBBQ almost anything if youre skills are up. Same with the recons.
Even the t1 rifter can put a serious dent in almost any other frig t1 or t2 out there. And the t2 minnie frigs? <3 <3< 3 <3 <3 :)
And come to think of it, what does it matter if minnie gets outranged? When they remove all bms the longest range bs fights is gonna be 100km anyway.
I fly claw, stiletto and jag every day and love it. SoonÖ im gonna be trained enough to use minnie bs properly too. :)
Minnie ships with tracking nerf are now useless. If you cannot hit a moving cruiser at 195km you're gonna get WTFBBQPWNed at 100km range because the tracking angles worsen if the enemy flies it right. That is, at 100km, if he uses abs and has speed skills; he can fly in oblique angles to approach you; you won't be able to kill him before he gets within 20km and then, my friend, you're dead.
Save your time mate; train railguns and stay with Caldari; they have just been guaranteed to be the I win Fleet button with the t2 ammo Tremor ammo nerf.
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Khajit Smitty
Minmatar
MisFunk Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.17 14:00:00 -
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Yes we do whine less, its coz we are the better players, our race may suck but i see more inventive,crazy matari's who throw curve balls to the predictable caldari,gallente setups.
Time to re-invent a nasty hurricane setup....
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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.17 14:02:00 -
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Cruisers is always a problem. I spawned jav torps at 7.5s ROF on a Vaga that was mwd straight at me for 150km and didnt get him below 90% shield (yes he was painted too). BSs can only kill stationary targets if the target itself is smaller than a BS. As far as fleetfights go, if they are again possible at some point, I prolly wont be shooting cruisers 
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 14:19:00 -
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The Hurricane WAS overpowered. Now it IS underpowered. Heres hoping Tux gives it one last whack and gets it right...............
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Orrin Danestarr
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Posted - 2006.11.17 14:31:00 -
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I certainly would like my 7 turrets back please. To hell with the PG, i just want my extra turret back.
"Imagination is the key that unlocks the door." - ME |
Rauko Serke
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Posted - 2006.11.17 17:53:00 -
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We Minmatar have some good ships but if you see a Raven Pilot killing NPC BS within seconds and you need some min. to kill em then you think something is going wrong. You can trained up the skills for your guns but you canŠt match the dam output of a raven. He can do lvl4 easy while you often need help cause you donŠt do enough dam fast enough to break the tank (Rachen Mysuna).
It canŠt be that we Minmatar have more disadavantages then advantages and i see no reason to get a Raven only to do mishs as i am mim.
This is an example.
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Happster
Polaris Project
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:33:00 -
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I find it kind of ironic they removed 1 turred and removed less PG then what 1 turret actually spend.
This means we get more PG left to fit an ever better tank 
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prathe
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.19 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Happster
I find it kind of ironic they removed 1 turred and removed less PG then what 1 turret actually spend.
This means we get more PG left to fit an ever better tank
my thoughts exactly even minus a turret it will still own at close range , i still think that the devs operate on the idea of what they think eve should be that day rather than what it is , when the come up with these ideas .
tbh if you wanted to see more variety in ships you should have left the bc's as is and looked at the bs's unless you think fleet battles should be rohk for sniping and drakes for support with all other ships staying home 
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar
Void Spiders
Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Rauko Serke
We Minmatar have some good ships but if you see a Raven Pilot killing NPC BS within seconds and you need some min. to kill em then you think something is going wrong. You can trained up the skills for your guns but you canŠt match the dam output of a raven. He can do lvl4 easy while you often need help cause you donŠt do enough dam fast enough to break the tank (Rachen Mysuna).
It canŠt be that we Minmatar have more disadavantages then advantages and i see no reason to get a Raven only to do mishs as i am mim.
This is an example.
I haven't found a single lvl 4 mission so far I can't solo in my minmatar ships.
Disadvantages? pls, elaborate
Crystal-Slave, that way?
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.19 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 19/11/2006 19:40:47
Originally by: Happster
I find it kind of ironic they removed 1 turred and removed less PG then what 1 turret actually spend.
This means we get more PG left to fit an ever better tank
What, you're not going to put things in the 2 extra high slots? Nos use a huge amount of powergrid to fit for example. I have about 10 powergrid or something remaining on my SiSi setup, and it doesnt use 1600mm plates.
The ship is nerfed, but still fun to fly. I hope it remains that way. You can outtank people with it until your poor dps eventually wears through their tanking. Takes a good while though.
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William Diseased
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Posted - 2006.11.20 17:31:00 -
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I totally agree that matari are one of the funnest races to fly but it would be nice if there was something htat didn't take 6 months of training to be a decent flyer in. I love being matari don't get me wrong ^.^
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Greenbolt
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:00:00 -
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I want my uber T1 ship.:(
Oh well. It was a nice dream while it lived.
Kali Sig:
matari should get Jury rigging skill on TQ for free. Weve been using bubble gun bailing twine and duct tape to keep our ships flying since we got our pod licensces...anyone with Minmatar BS trained to 1 should a automatically start with Jury Rigging 3 (Prior experience)
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Crellion
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.20 20:24:00 -
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Right... it take 6 months to skill for a ship well but it takes years ti understand what eve is all about I see...
If I wasnt so tired I would probably take the trouble to reply to all the humorous comments in here... just as I well I am I guess...
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