Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
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Posted - 2015.06.02 22:14:18 -
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Tusker Crazinski wrote:nah, they should just be harder to kill and have actual teeth
generally PVP is funner when the opposition shoots back, I think that rationale should be extended to all industrial ships.
The premise of an industrial ship is the fact that it is not a warship.
Look at modern day fuel barges and cargo ships, they use fire hoses as weapons to keep themselves safe. Now put one in a match up with a navy destroyer, submarine, aircraft carrier, etc and tell me who will win? And i know you shouldn't compare EVE with RL in terms of these things, i try very hard not to when possible, but it does provide a pretty clear image of what we are dealing with here.
The simple fact is these ships are designed with offense as an afterthought, not the priority. "how fun it is to kill them if they can fight back" is not a factor in their design at any point.
They have enough design relegated to Industrial purposes; be it a giant floating cargo bay with engines, a series of ore extraction lasers and specialized bays to promote efficient extractionand transfer of materials or to haul said materials to station or towers. and then defense systems to help keep precious cargo safe. Offense is a gift on these ships, not a right.
-Freighters got buffed and gained tank slots, there are ways to get a freighter over a million EHP, its expensive and possibly impractical but even a lesser version using cheap modules or T2 can get 600 - 750K. Thats EHP that matches a carrier out of the box. And yet people still anti tank, autopilot, and think "oh it wont happen to me".
-Barges and exhumers were re balanced to have more tank and firepower, particularly the skiff and the procurer. Look at people using them as bait ships or battle barge fleets, that speaks for itself
-Industrial ships were overhauled so the Itteron V wasn't the only way to go, now they all have a purpose, and some of them can be in and out as fast as a blockade runner.
-Speaking of Blockade runners got utility highslots and more cargo, which can be used for a cyno if needed, ive seen people drop gangs off these ships to protect them or simply as bait, ifyou wanted to it could also be used for a gun/missile.
-Deep Space transports got massive tanking bonuses and even more massive holds, a medium micro jump drive, and can burst tank like a battleship.
When does the outcry for these ships to "Get buffed because they are too weak" end? In complete safety?
Use the tools provided, CCP has given you soo much and yet he we are again discussing the same issues we've been discussing for years.
Theory-Crafter, Free Agent, Immortal Space Pirate. Generally Crazy and difficult to understand at times.
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