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sidthesexist
Caldari Friendship 7 Corporation YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya
Originally by: sidthesexist Words of wisdom to ASCN
-Do not engage BoB in fleet battles, its what they want.
-Light Interceptor/Recon gangs for the win, and jam jam jam jam.
-Avoid large BoB forces, target around them.
-Stop using battleships 
Silly North people 
BoB moral is based on the BS kills they get per day, drop it down to a very low level and BoB moral doesnt get boosted every time they look at their killboard.
As for loosing stations, well i didnt say not to use BS in defend of POS's but, BoB generally dont, iv checked kills of ASCN at bob pos's and its mostly hacs and inty's that do the killing around them. ________ You What?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: sidthesexist
Originally by: Xeliya
Originally by: sidthesexist Words of wisdom to ASCN
-Do not engage BoB in fleet battles, its what they want.
-Light Interceptor/Recon gangs for the win, and jam jam jam jam.
-Avoid large BoB forces, target around them.
-Stop using battleships 
Silly North people 
BoB moral is based on the BS kills they get per day, drop it down to a very low level and BoB moral doesnt get boosted every time they look at their killboard.
As for loosing stations, well i didnt say not to use BS in defend of POS's but, BoB generally dont, iv checked kills of ASCN at bob pos's and its mostly hacs and inty's that do the killing around them.
Eh, the only reason we kill so much in hac's n such is that we roam alot becasue ascn have been hesitant to engage in fleets so we dnt need to sit in bs all the time, makes sense no?
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sidthesexist
Caldari Friendship 7 Corporation YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ When and If BoB finish with ASCN, they will hardly be in a position to launch an all out attack against a force such as RA and Goons represent. So certainly I see nothing in the near future happening.
Time will tell if BoB will follow through on thier promise, but the landscape has changed, things are very different now for Goons and their new found allies. BoB will no doubt hav elong term plans, and they are well known for upholding what they say..... so ASCNs displacement from their home is first on the agenda i expect.
Certainly Goons focus is no where near BoB right now, they are fighting for Scalding Pass.
I expect once the new regions open, Kali hits in full, then we shall see the land settle and the conflicts erupt for entirely different regions.
Whatever happens, one thing is for sure, Goons are not the targets they were 3 months ago.
Ps, this does look like a cry for help from LV/V/ASCN.... i wander if it is.
Im not from LV/V/ASCN, i do like the first two of those alliances, ASCN i think have been politically ignorant and diserve some slaping around but i dislike BoB more than the rest of them so id rather see BoB loose.
At the end of the day, BoB will attack each and every one of these alliances for their perverse little e-peen games. I dont see why they cant see it? ________ You What?
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Chowdown
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Ps, this does look like a cry for help from LV/V/ASCN.... i wander if it is.
Regardless of the Hi Aneu business, this is an Aneu post I can happily tell you Aneu is not involved with LV/V/ASCN. We are not asking for assistance, we are quite happy thanks, now get those dreads out in 1v- tonight.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Ps, this does look like a cry for help from LV/V/ASCN.... i wander if it is.
How exactly is an enemy of the LV/V telling ASCN to nap Ra/GOON (Enemies of LL/V/ASCN) a cry for help from LV/V/ASCN? -----
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Doc Punkiller
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ When and If BoB finish with ASCN, they will hardly be in a position to launch an all out attack against a force such as RA and Goons represent. So certainly I see nothing in the near future happening.
Time will tell if BoB will follow through on thier promise, but the landscape has changed, things are very different now for Goons and their new found allies. BoB will no doubt hav elong term plans, and they are well known for upholding what they say..... so ASCNs displacement from their home is first on the agenda i expect.
Certainly Goons focus is no where near BoB right now, they are fighting for Scalding Pass.
I expect once the new regions open, Kali hits in full, then we shall see the land settle and the conflicts erupt for entirely different regions.
Whatever happens, one thing is for sure, Goons are not the targets they were 3 months ago.
Ps, this does look like a cry for help from LV/V/ASCN.... i wander if it is.
Firehawk (Dice frenchwing) clearely stated in a french public forums that after ASCN, the target will be "RA + AAA + Goon + Pets".
I dont know.
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putukas
Enterprise Estonia Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: putukas on 17/11/2006 10:49:41
Originally by: Doc Punkiller
Originally by: KIAEddZ When and If BoB finish with ASCN, they will hardly be in a position to launch an all out attack against a force such as RA and Goons represent. So certainly I see nothing in the near future happening.
Time will tell if BoB will follow through on thier promise, but the landscape has changed, things are very different now for Goons and their new found allies. BoB will no doubt hav elong term plans, and they are well known for upholding what they say..... so ASCNs displacement from their home is first on the agenda i expect.
Certainly Goons focus is no where near BoB right now, they are fighting for Scalding Pass.
I expect once the new regions open, Kali hits in full, then we shall see the land settle and the conflicts erupt for entirely different regions.
Whatever happens, one thing is for sure, Goons are not the targets they were 3 months ago.
Ps, this does look like a cry for help from LV/V/ASCN.... i wander if it is.
**** its annoying to see Eddz talking about politics :P reputation in my eyes for KIA is dropping each day i see posts like this :(
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:54:00 -
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I guess Goons RA know BoB will come eventually, they hope that by that time they will have the ability to stand and fight.
The cap ship fleet that RA and Goons possess, will be the biggest fear for BoB. RA are Cap ship killing experts, bob would be far more hesitatnt deploying that fleet against Goons/Ra than ASCN I am sure.
I would say taking RA POS would be nigh on impossible for any entity unless they can time it so the pos exits re enforced at non RA prime time. It would of course take some serious RA fk ups for that to happen.
I have seen the force that RA produce to protect a pos that is exiting Re Enforced, and no one would like to see that force up close. It is fkin scary. And with Goons getting cap ship viable, more n more every day, i would say that sitiuation can only get scarier for those prepping a POS assault on that entity.
Being on a the second long term contract for Goons in a very short period of time, KIA has garnered a lot of respect for them, and despite the dodgy tactics employed by them and RA, which KIA are veherently opposed to as both Nync and Rem know, you cannot help but admire a force that has such dertermination, and is not afraid to put it on the line.
The Bob vs RAGoon conflict, will be the conflict of all time imho, maybe 2008 will be a good year for those that love to watch big sparkly things go boom, but I cant help but feel it may not go that way.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.17 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: putukas
**** its annoying to see Eddz talking about politics :P reputation in my eyes for KIA is dropping each day i see posts like this :(
I find the entire situation fascinating. I am a political animal, unfortunately my corp are just animals, so on the rare occasion I am involved in something like this, its a perk for me to get involved in the discussion that surrounds it.
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arjun
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:00:00 -
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if the OP is indeed aneu and if i were -Y- leadership. id think about removing this char from the alliance as his forum skills had not a small impact on the demise of CA and the weakening of IMP.
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Daroh
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:01:00 -
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I see u know almost nothing about diplomacy situation on south...and sure, the question u asked will result in flame.

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OriaZ
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: OriaZ on 17/11/2006 11:06:04
Originally by: Doc Punkiller
Firehawk (Dice frenchwing) clearely stated in a french public forums that after ASCN, the target will be "RA + AAA + Goon + Pets".
Leave what's on the french forums to the french people. We're still focusing on ASCN in ASCN space.
Originally by: sidthesexist
BoB moral is based on the BS kills they get per day
Believe me our moral is not only boosted by the number of BS we kill. Dreadnoughts and Carriers aggroing our roaming gangs at stations gets our morale up pretty well. But what boosts our moral even more and that is not something you can view on the killboard, is the systems we take over day after day, hour after hour. It would be even better if ASCN did try to doing something about it, but getting a new outposts and systems is something that always boosts my moral.
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:10:00 -
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very good advice Aneu, but your advice is gonna lead to them loosing all of their stations. I doubt that goons tactics will work very well in kali, if they remove bookmarks. Its gonna be alot harder to explain a bm bomb then if they choose to use them.
If they want to come down then fine. We will be waiting. Feyth is all but abandoned, bar from the odd capital ship sitting in dockrange. Some die and some manage to dock. How some of them manages to die in dockrange though, is beyond me.
Now aneu, are you ever going to fight us yourself instead of just trying to get other people to do it. "but I can do that, cos I dont like either of the alliances. But I hate BoB so thats why I'm saying it."
And if we think that our morale is governed by how fat our killboard is, then your wrong. Its governed by proving compulsive liars like yourself wrong.
Dont get goon to fight for you, do it yourself.
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Punkiller
Originally by: KIAEddZ When and If BoB finish with ASCN, they will hardly be in a position to launch an all out attack against a force such as RA and Goons represent. So certainly I see nothing in the near future happening.
Time will tell if BoB will follow through on thier promise, but the landscape has changed, things are very different now for Goons and their new found allies. BoB will no doubt hav elong term plans, and they are well known for upholding what they say..... so ASCNs displacement from their home is first on the agenda i expect.
Certainly Goons focus is no where near BoB right now, they are fighting for Scalding Pass.
I expect once the new regions open, Kali hits in full, then we shall see the land settle and the conflicts erupt for entirely different regions.
Whatever happens, one thing is for sure, Goons are not the targets they were 3 months ago.
Ps, this does look like a cry for help from LV/V/ASCN.... i wander if it is.
Firehawk (Dice frenchwing) clearely stated in a french public forums that after ASCN, the target will be "RA + AAA + Goon + Pets".
I dont know.
/me checks list of BoB Directors
No, Firehawk isn't one of them and since we operate on a need to know basis, it's safe to assume that anything he says is speculation, much like most of this thread. ....
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/11/2006 11:19:31 Hast pretty much nailed this topic.
I'd just like to add that regardless of what Aneu says above, ASCN should look to the example of FA, SA and PA and see how well it went they decided to not fight us and try and bore us out of their regions.
And they can look at Paragon Soul to see what happens if they don't fight for a region continually.
Also, I'd just like to add that any alliance considering taking advice from aneu should consider just how successful he has been in eve at alliance warfare.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Ackaroth
Gallente Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:16:00 -
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Call me ignorant, but RA has the largest cap fleet in game? While this is very possible, I was wondering what your source of info is. I used to be in coalition, and I know things have changed, but since then they have gotten more caps than everyone else? As far as them being masters of taking out capitals, I know for a fact that we cleared out a few of their carriers, and don't remember losing any... could just be my memory is distorted tho...
To OP, I agree with everyone. Money where your mouth is, you attack BoB if you think its such a brilliant idea :p
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:26:00 -
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RA/Goon defence force awaiting an allied POS to drop out of RE-Enforced was 40+ carriers and motherships. They weren't happy with the turn out lol.
They may not have the largest, I dont know if that is true or not, but its still fkin scary.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:30:00 -
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Yeah and ASCN have a hundred carriers, big frigging deal.
If you fail at using what you have, it hardly matters how much it is.
We're after ASCN, we'll see what happens after, after.
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:37:00 -
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maybe thread starter should join the war before asking others to.
guess the info that bob may be planning to attack goon is going to come as a massive suprise for them  ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own. |

Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 17/11/2006 11:43:19
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: sidthesexist Well they will both die if they dont put the past behind them and work together.
Desperate ey? Guess they would rather lose everything then work with people like RA/Goons?
Yes. I don't care about BoBs position in this at the moment, BoB and ASCN have their war, we ours, and I want to win.
If that doesn't happen in the end, we'll see, what the coalition and V's plans are.
Currently my view is that I'd support anyone, who wants to give RAGoon a beating ( or the other parties, who joined them. ), if we failed. Don't care if it was still our Coalition or the friendlies in Curse etc. or even BoB, ASCN ... I'm willing to support whoever would go out to remove RAGoon, Tau Ceti, IMP etc. from the regions I once called home. This is personal ( in a roleplay sense ) 
/edit ok, I'd maybe not support the northern alliances. They shouldn't set their foot in south eastern space either. Well, they are northerners and we not, that's enough reason. 
cdt/con-loss vs. regular log-out. A proposal ...
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James Duar
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:40:00 -
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Wouldn't it make more sense at this point for the RA/Goons to invade ASCN space? BoB ripping into the alliance on one front, ASCN floundering. If it's pure territory and wealth you want then tearing up the weaker giant makes more sense.
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jernej
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ RA/Goon defence force awaiting an allied POS to drop out of RE-Enforced was 40+ carriers and motherships. They weren't happy with the turn out lol.
They may not have the largest, I dont know if that is true or not, but its still fkin scary.
1 titan > 40 carriers
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:43:00 -
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Since ASCN failed to show up when Goon was attacked by BoB, why in hell should they bother about helping ASCN ? RA is not exactly in friendly terms with ASCN either so well.
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Amerame Since ASCN failed to show up when Goon was attacked by BoB, why in hell should they bother about helping ASCN ? RA is not exactly in friendly terms with ASCN either so well.
but... but... Aneu said it could happen 
Thats the problem with ane....errr Sidthesexists thinking, Everyone is supposed to drop everything they are doing to do his bidding. But too be honest, I'm kinda glad he went north. Maybe he'll manage to break up a few naps up there, or even create a civil war in a alliance. Destroying alliances from within, thats something he is good at.
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Beyond Horizon
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:46:00 -
[55]
How is this not a flame thread again? =/
Since all of the present people in this thread are so kind on giving advices, I would like to give mine: don't mess with the Russians.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Darcuese on 17/11/2006 12:00:39
Originally by: Beyond Horizon How is this not a flame thread again? =/
Since all of the present people in this thread are so kind on giving advices, I would like to give mine: don't mess with the Russians.
I dont know what future will bring us on schedule. But of all wars I have been involved, of all aliances and corps I have seen in space and on forums...only one conflict I could be completely satisfied with.
And that is against RA...no matter how boring it might be, removing them from that little corner of their would be great pleasure and satisfaction. If i would have all t2 BPOs in game, I would throw them away just for this little task.
But, that is just me. Our destiny will combined sooner or later. Messing with them (as Horizon said) remind me of cleaning the old basement in my house. Plenty of unusfull stuff to throw away.
And EVE streets could be clean again.
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Buxaroo
Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:03:00 -
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Hate to sound all nubbish and all , but who in the hell is this Aneu person everyone is always refering to? Anyone give me a brief history of this Aneu?
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sidthesexist
Caldari Friendship 7 Corporation YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Amerame Since ASCN failed to show up when Goon was attacked by BoB, why in hell should they bother about helping ASCN ? RA is not exactly in friendly terms with ASCN either so well.
but... but... Aneu said it could happen 
Thats the problem with ane....errr Sidthesexists thinking, Everyone is supposed to drop everything they are doing to do his bidding. But too be honest, I'm kinda glad he went north. Maybe he'll manage to break up a few naps up there, or even create a civil war in a alliance. Destroying alliances from within, thats something he is good at.
Your hate warms my heart, its good to know im doing somthing right. ________ You What?
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Drusus Rensus
Gallente Klima Galactic
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:25:00 -
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If the BoB leadership is smart (and they are) and they behave like I would predict they would, and they do win, they will take some time to consolidate their holdings. The time to watch for them to make their next move won't be until they have installed vassals in their new territory.
Over-reaching would be a mistake. Don't expect them to make many mistakes.
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Dr Einkeisel
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Whilst we're on the subject of tactical suggestions can I add the following :
- Do not aggress BoB roaming gangs outside stations with your capital ships.
- Don't fit t1 junk on your capital ships, it makes RKK cry when they get rubbish lewt.
Oh, and I was going to make a new owl, and then i remembered this one :
GOON RLY !!
Let me add;
Do not fit 425 rails to your capital ships.
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