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munkape
Imperial Combat Logistics Regiment
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Posted - 2011.12.07 08:57:00 -
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MetalDev wrote:Destroyers need some love. Its like they were completely ignored. They dont really do much of anything particularly well, and you never see them. Maybe tier 2 destroyers should be made and a bit less useless. Theyre a relic from early days of eve
Agreed, destroyers do seem kinda pointless! They would be good fun if you could make use of them. |
Archare
SKEET ELITE
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Posted - 2011.12.07 09:01:00 -
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Along with this there was a "bug" reported and fixed with this change.... drones assisting a interdictor would shoot the interdictor pilot for "aggressing" himself when he launched the bubble resulting in hilarity.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=469051#post469051 |
Norris Packard
Wings of Redemption
Black Flag Alliance
6
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Posted - 2011.12.07 09:11:00 -
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention, would have been bad to lose a dictor thinking I could still double bubble. What is the point of flying an interdictor over a HIC now? It can't even lock down both sides of a gate anymore it is paper thin and doesn't bring any DPS to a gang. Seems to me that they have lost any real point to using them. Too bad because they were an interesting element of combat before. |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.07 09:32:00 -
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what about split weapon system they could field 2 larger ones and 4 smaller ones with bonuses for both :P |
Rhastafan
Cadre Assault Force
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.12.07 10:00:00 -
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Dam my post was eaten.
When I was thinking about new up-gunned destroyers I had in mind light cruisers; we currently have heavy (aka armored) cruisers but not light cruisers.
CT - Corvette
FF - Frigate
DD - Destroyer
CL - Light Cruiser
CA - Heavy Cruiser
BC - Battlecruiser
BB - Battleship
The new destroyers would have the role of leading sub-cruiser fleets and providing range and firepower to deal with enemy destroyers in opposing sub-cruiser fleets without the cost of a full cruiser. To keep them from having more firepower than current cruisers I would limit them to using 5 (maybe 6?) high slots for weapons and have the rest strictly utility. Perhaps in a pinch they could be used to get under the guns of battleships? |
Heun zero
Aegis Evolution
Soldiers 0f Fortune
6
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Posted - 2011.12.07 12:17:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Goose99 wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Fix My Lasers wrote:
Since new non-Winmatar t3 BCs are useless
The amount of stupidity in this statement is... Well it is frankly just incredible. There, I fixed that for you. Happy?  Fair enough.Though the Amarr one is not bad to be honest. But god the Nado is just somethin else.
fixed that for ya |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
576
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Posted - 2011.12.07 12:43:00 -
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Heun zero wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Goose99 wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Fix My Lasers wrote:
Since new non-Winmatar t3 BCs are useless
The amount of stupidity in this statement is... Well it is frankly just incredible. There, I fixed that for you. Happy? Fair enough.Though the Amarr one is not bad to be honest. But god the Nado is just somethin else. Fixed that for ya .
You should start each sentence with a capital letter and end it with a period.
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1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
224
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Posted - 2011.12.07 13:45:00 -
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The catalyst can currently reach 750 DPS, now give it medium blasters...
5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me! |
Fist1
Hostile Alcoholic Commanders
0
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:21:00 -
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1-Up Mushroom wrote:The catalyst can currently reach 750 DPS, now give it medium blasters...
I would love to see that fit. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
146
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:22:00 -
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1-Up Mushroom wrote:The catalyst can currently reach 750 DPS, now give it medium blasters...
Hmmm:
- T2 ROF rig
- Faction MFS
- Neutron IIs, Void S
- Overheated
- 5% Hardwirings
What else?
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Zarnak Wulf
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:38:00 -
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Catalyst - Undock Terrorist
Light Nuetron II x 8 w/ Void
No mids!
MFS II x 3
Hybrid Collision
Hybrid Burst
Hobgoblin II
3% small hybrid damage impland and 1% all turret damage implant - both cheap.
Total DPS - 733. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
146
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:45:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Catalyst - Undock Terrorist
Light Nuetron II x 8 w/ Void
No mids!
MFS II x 3
Hybrid Collision
Hybrid Burst
Hobgoblin II
3% small hybrid damage impland and 1% all turret damage implant - both cheap.
Total DPS - 733.
I'd never fly that but its an interesting mental exercise I guess. Thanks! :)
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Zarnak Wulf
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:51:00 -
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It's total crap but funny I guess. |
Norris Packard
Wings of Redemption
Black Flag Alliance
7
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Posted - 2011.12.08 05:31:00 -
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Rhastafan wrote:Dam my post was eaten.
When I was thinking about new up-gunned destroyers I had in mind light cruisers; we currently have heavy (aka armored) cruisers but not light cruisers.
CT - Corvette
FF - Frigate
DD - Destroyer
CL - Light Cruiser
CA - Heavy Cruiser
BC - Battlecruiser
BB - Battleship
The new destroyers would have the role of leading sub-cruiser fleets and providing range and firepower to deal with enemy destroyers in opposing sub-cruiser fleets without the cost of a full cruiser. To keep them from having more firepower than current cruisers I would limit them to using 5 (maybe 6?) high slots for weapons and have the rest strictly utility. Perhaps in a pinch they could be used to get under the guns of battleships?
Light Cruisers (CLs) do already exist, nanofiber a standard cruiser and there you go, to be honest they are faster than most destroyers when you do that to them anyways and would still be better protected than a destroyer. The ship you are looking for exists and is about 4-6mil isk; not very expensive. |
Titania Hrothgar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2011.12.08 05:44:00 -
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Filan Fyretracker wrote:Tier 2 destroyers would be pretty awesome. caldari one with 8 light launchers(Super-Kestral! basically).
the big issue with Destroyers is they have a huge sig but do not always back that up with the right amount of pew pew. and buffing them always gets the AF crowd's panties in a knot because they fear a tech 1 boat that is far cheaper than their AF being able to alpha said AF(id imagine 8 light missiles being a good sized threat to an AF or even an inty if such a destroyer existed)
What's AF?
Titania Hrothgar |
Titania Hrothgar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2011.12.08 05:48:00 -
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MetalDev wrote:Destroyers need some love. Its like they were completely ignored. They dont really do much of anything particularly well, and you never see them. Maybe tier 2 destroyers should be made and a bit less useless. Theyre a relic from early days of eve
Really? My Minmitar destroyer is so far the only ship I like in Eve. It's fast, agile, packs a huge 7 turret punch with an 8th high slot open for anything I want to put in it including a missile turret, and it can actually target, track, and decimate small ships and cruisers. It can survive lvl 3 missions if I'm REEAALLLY careful.
Titania Hrothgar |
Khrage
0
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Posted - 2011.12.08 06:12:00 -
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Titania Hrothgar wrote:Filan Fyretracker wrote:Tier 2 destroyers would be pretty awesome. caldari one with 8 light launchers(Super-Kestral! basically).
the big issue with Destroyers is they have a huge sig but do not always back that up with the right amount of pew pew. and buffing them always gets the AF crowd's panties in a knot because they fear a tech 1 boat that is far cheaper than their AF being able to alpha said AF(id imagine 8 light missiles being a good sized threat to an AF or even an inty if such a destroyer existed) What's AF?
Assault Frig |
Rhastafan
Cadre Assault Force
Initiative Mercenaries
8
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Posted - 2011.12.08 11:20:00 -
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Norris Packard wrote:Rhastafan wrote:Dam my post was eaten.
When I was thinking about new up-gunned destroyers I had in mind light cruisers; we currently have heavy (aka armored) cruisers but not light cruisers.
CT - Corvette
FF - Frigate
DD - Destroyer
CL - Light Cruiser
CA - Heavy Cruiser
BC - Battlecruiser
BB - Battleship
The new destroyers would have the role of leading sub-cruiser fleets and providing range and firepower to deal with enemy destroyers in opposing sub-cruiser fleets without the cost of a full cruiser. To keep them from having more firepower than current cruisers I would limit them to using 5 (maybe 6?) high slots for weapons and have the rest strictly utility. Perhaps in a pinch they could be used to get under the guns of battleships? Light Cruisers (CLs) do already exist, nanofiber a standard cruiser and there you go, to be honest they are faster than most destroyers when you do that to them anyways and would still be better protected than a destroyer. The ship you are looking for exists and is about 4-6mil isk; not very expensive.
That makes a fast cruiser, not a light cruiser (nano doesn't reduce the base EHP to anywhere near as low as a DD not to mention cruisers have more slots for tank), Also it doesn't make the cruiser any cheaper. |
Omir Kajil
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.08 15:06:00 -
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Cedo Nulli wrote:What we need is new tier 2 dreads with XXL-sized weapons that can destroy planets. Its a logical followup for the new tier3 battlecruisers.
Our cruisers can't repel firepower of that magnitude! It's a trap! |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
441
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Posted - 2011.12.08 15:13:00 -
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Max Von Sydow wrote:I would rather see new destroyers using the other weapon systems for each race.
Drones for gallente, light missiles for caldari and rockets (?) for amarr. No idea what minmatar should get, unless they get the rockets and amarr get something else.
They would get:
Drones, rockets and pulse. Ho and probably also rails, blasters, ham's & hm's, beams & tachs, would have bonus to speed and 8 high 8 mid 8 lows.
Don't forget they were slaves and now are better than everyone  |
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