This is the second iteration of the icons, the first was put on sisi pushed on us and tested
then rolled back due to player feed back and redone.

You can take your foot out of your mouth now.

Also to address some of the concerns voiced, our overall aim was not to change the old icons just for the sake of something new or because we thought they weren't working, but to provide better granularity and at-a-glance awareness of the objects on grid.

But change is tough and we are definitely keeping an eye on your feedback in all channels as we had been during testing on Singularity for the past while. This relatively small icons swap isn't an end-all-be-all "tough luck" change we're aiming to saddle the playerbase with.

For now a few things

• I urge patience. There are dozens of new icons to learn, and it might take the brain a while to untangle the new "messy blob" at first. Post back in a few days and share if they've changed your game for better or worse after you've gotten a little more comfortable identifying them. We'll be keeping an eye on this post initial-reaction feedback closely.
• Check out this image to help learn your icons: http://images.contentful.com/kvd74o0q2fjg/4Hgu1BcYAE22wgokiKeYO4/4001f1c3132cc7749d9d25ec8851798e/NewOvervieBracket-IconsImage.jpg?w=1920&fm=jpg&q=85
• While GÇ£deconstructive feedbackGÇ¥ is cathartic in some ways I am sure, itGÇÖs likely not going to help get your point across. We are looking for specific feedback: What specifically don't you like about the new icons? Can you share an in-game story or experience which backs up your conclusions? It's the kind of feedback that's most useful to us when making calls on these types of things.
• We've taken seriously the calls to include a "use classic bracket icons" option. Originally we thought having two sets of icons in the client might just cause confusion and miscommunication among players, and tough learning/teaching decisions for newbros as well as vets welcoming them in. However these concerns might be overblown, especially in regards to little bracket icons. In any case its definitely a debate worth having.

Thanks for reading!

In what sense were the old icons "perfect"? You couldn't even tell the difference between a frigate and destroyer for goodness sake.

I have an idea. This new set of icons is ok. Not excellent. This is how it can be excellent.

Let me define which icons i want for the ship classes. Give us access to all the icons as a grab bag and let me pick and choose what goes to what. Add more icons too. That other set of player made icons gets posyed a lot, i like them, many peoplelike them. Use them.
And ALLOW REDUNDANCY please. Please. I want shutles and newbships to have the same icon, so let me. Its common sense. I want drones to have the same icons. If i want overview defined that way, let me. Let me change the defaults.

Have this, and have the checkbox option in settings somewhere to just have classic icons.

Put classic icons in that grab bag i mentioned earlier, so i can mix classic and new icons if i wish. This gives us the best of all worlds.

So please, go back to the drawing board and make this feature excellent.

Straight out no.

Veteran: "Since we are in a fleet, and you're in a small ship, you need to shoot at the enemy frigates first"
Newbie: "Just to be sure, frigates are the small triangles?"
Veteran: "No, they are small crosses."
Newbie: "But I never saw small crosses on the overview?"

That's not true. We're definitely still keeping tabs on this thread and assessing the situation. Just don't expect any knee-jerk reactions from us so soon. For now keep the feedback coming, keep it constructive. Thanks

So in other words, your test was to jump in to the worst case immediately and then complain that it was bad.

OK.

I've eased myself in, because that's the sensible thing to do when confronted with a new icon set.



OK, so have one icon for "player ship" and be done with it? For me, that would be better than the old way, because as I mentioned, I couldn't rely on the old player ship icons at all.

The new icons don't have all the information. For my money they do a much, much better job of communicating hull size and general category, which is what they're supposed to do..

The services go down....... While the blob fights...... the station flips.......Reds Enter station.........Buy the Market.........Even if the reds choose to leave..............The Biggest Corp Wins.......... POWER VACUUM COMPLETE.

what do you think about my try? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5795742#post5795742