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Ikarushka A.O.U. Corp	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:25:00 - [1] well, I watched it and the opnly thing I can think of is wow (in the other words that this forum wouldn't allow) Linkage ----------------------------------------- Your ad could be here :)
Ebedar Gallente Primary Intelligence	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:27:00 - [2] Yeah I saw this half an hour ago, it's shocking. News article about it here. ~ Balls > WCS
Epoch	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:32:00 - [3] jesus christ man. i dont even know what to say.
Cyrus Graham Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.18 01:30:00 - [4] hmm.. bet that guy could get some money out of that. at the very least those guys should definately be out of a job. Who the hell tasers someone and then demands that they stand up, then tasers them again and tells them to stand again? He must have done that at least 4 times that I could see in the video. ___________________________________ If you knew the number Of the steps you'd ever take Bitter, I wonder Would you run or cease to walk?
SengH Black Omega Security The OSS	Posted - 2006.11.18 02:42:00 - [5] yeah there were people protesting outside the UCPD station today. ---------------------------------------- Back for a month cus Awu5 finished.....
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.18 05:49:00 - [6] Fire them!
Captin ShadowHawk Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.18 07:08:00 - [7] Maybe if he stood up and actually left the building he would not need to be tazered.
Ikarushka A.O.U. Corp	Posted - 2006.11.18 07:42:00 - [8] Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk Maybe if he stood up and actually left the building he would not need to be tazered. well, not sure what happened but from I can out together: he was working in the lab and was asked to leave since had no card. he didn't do it right away... (it's not a big deal, save your work and take your time, noone is going to die). Officers arrived as he was walking out, so if their point was to escrot them out, why bother he was on his way any way. Regarding standing up... the whole point of a tazer is to disable ability to stand up/move for some period of time (a few minutes at least), thus it's stupid to tazer someone and ask them to stand up. tazering while two cops were carying him is no question is excessive use of force. ----------------------------------------- Your ad could be here :)
Nikolai Nuvolari Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.11.18 08:14:00 - [9] Oh look. I already wrote about this. How prophetic. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period. Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Cyrus Graham Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.18 10:16:00 - [10] Edited by: Cyrus Graham on 18/11/2006 10:19:50 Edited by: Cyrus Graham on 18/11/2006 10:17:26 Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Oh look. I already wrote about this. How prophetic. What you wrote in the linked thread is true, but doesn't really apply to the situation. The guy was leaving, which was what they were supposed to be making sure he was doing, and they come up and physically grab him. Now I don't know how rent-a-cops work in specific, but I am quite certain that a trained police officer would not(well, a police officer following his training) walk up and just grab someone who is already cooperating. If the officer doesn't believe he's a threat there's no call for it, and if he does believe he's a threat, it's not safe to just go up and grab him. You tell a person to do something, not physically guide him through the act of doing it. Strike One for stupidity. Second, as I and another said before, you can't expect someone you just tasered to stand up like nothing happened. The whole point of a taser is to put you on your ass. Yet these guys repeatedly demand him to stand up, and then tasered him when he wouldn't and kept demanding that he stand up. Basically they continued to taser an already incapacitated individual. Strike two for abuse. Third, they threatened to taser people that were doing nothing more than asking for thier badge number. Strike three buddy. That's the ball game. Basically, the security at that place went from simply escorting a guy that forgot his student ID out of the building to abusing a student and failing miserably to handle the crowd properly. That could have quite easily turned into a very violent riot situation because they were too incompetent to do a very simple job. ___________________________________ If you knew the number Of the steps you'd ever take Bitter, I wonder Would you run or cease to walk?
Lienzo	Posted - 2006.11.18 10:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Oh look. I already wrote about this. How prophetic. Yes, but this ignores the fact that most police officers are learning disabled, have violent fantasies, and enjoy torturing people with anything given to them. It's not that we don't need to put these kinds of people to work in suppressing the lower classes, but the importance of the baton is that it leaves bruises, which are useful in court. I mostly dislike the tazer on the grounds that it might all these public servants to forget what they are. Namely, licensed and armed gang members in the pay of the nearest state. Swinging a club is a better memory aid. Being put on suspension once in a while also helps control the rising labor costs of population control.
Tokar Lorell Gallente Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.11.18 11:41:00 - [12] "LA's finest." Yeah, no **...I got sick watching that. That's ** up, they're practically torturing him. Welcome to America, where you can be electrocuted and abused by men in badges for not having your ID. ---------- Originally by:** Joe Evertime i sell a mwd I unleash true pvp power?
Scorpyn Caldari The Patriot Pact	Posted - 2006.11.18 12:09:00 - [13] Edited by: Scorpyn on 18/11/2006 12:10:31 Originally by: Sakura Nihil Fire them! And then put them in prison. Actually they should be tasered themselves for a few hours imo.
Tamulan Time Cube Syndicate Daikoku Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.18 12:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Lienzo Yes, but this ignores the fact that most police officers are learning disabled, have violent fantasies, and enjoy torturing people with anything given to them. It's not that we don't need to put these kinds of people to work in suppressing the lower classes, but the importance of the baton is that it leaves bruises, which are useful in court. WTF are you on about? This statement is offensive in every way imaginable.
El Berto Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.18 12:58:00 - [15] What the ****? Was he carrying a weapon? No. Did he pose an immediate threat to those filth or the populus? No. HE WAS TASERED FOR USING A LIBRARY. If he refused to leave they should have restrained, cuffed and carried the guy out. The increasing use in tasers is worrying (www.amnestyusa.org/countries/usa/Taser_report.pdf) and the way those idiots handled the situation was ridiculas. If that cop had threatened me with a taser for comming too close, I would have let him do it... and enjoyed sueing the crap out of him and the state for GBH (or whatever the equivelent is in the US) in the criminal and civil courts. Second, there was a good 30-40ppl in that library watching what was going on and not one of them had the balls to step up and really confront the idiots about their behaviour, but say if they did - with their agressive behaviour those cops could have been in serious trouble; even with their guns, tasers and batons they could have caused a massive disturbance. I've seen it happen on more than one occasion in the UK even when the police were handling the situation calmly.
Admiral Pieg Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.18 13:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Lienzo Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Oh look. I already wrote about this. How prophetic. Yes, but this ignores the fact that most police officers are learning disabled, have violent fantasies, and enjoy torturing people with anything given to them. It's not that we don't need to put these kinds of people to work in suppressing the lower classes, but the importance of the baton is that it leaves bruises, which are useful in court. I mostly dislike the tazer on the grounds that it might all these public servants to forget what they are. Namely, licensed and armed gang members in the pay of the nearest state. Swinging a club is a better memory aid. Being put on suspension once in a while also helps control the rising labor costs of population control. Amen brother. ______________ Pod from above.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.18 14:07:00 - [17] Typical liberal college student, I'd have tazered him a few more times... Newest toy for my 63 acre sandbox Building the homestead
dennyreborn	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:54:00 - [18] The student was in the wrong and a dumb ass. police want to talk to you don't scream in their face. He should have know he was in the wrong. they should have tased those dumb ass asking for the police's badge number too.
Dario Wall Caldari Bravehearts Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:07:00 - [19] Before any law enforcement officer is permitted to use a taser, they have to be tased themselves to know what it's like for whoever they use it on. If you get tased by someone, you are NOT going to be able to just stand up, and calmy walk away. The whole purpose of a taser is to send an electrical discharge through your body, disabling you. If these were actually trained police, then they could be taken to court due to the excessive and improper use of a taser. If they were just rent-a-cops, I believe they still have most of the same restrictions, if not all, as an ordinary officer. From what I've gathered, the student was leaving peacefully when one of the officers grabbed him, at which point the student told him to let go. If someone is peacefully cooperating, there is no need to use the force these officers have shown. Oh, and Nikolai, regarding loving COPS taser stuff... Linkage Enjoy. All your sigs are belong to us - Xorus
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:11:00 - [20] Edited by: Ediz Daxx on 18/11/2006 17:12:11 Originally by: DarkMatter Typical liberal college student, I'd have tazered him a few more times... So you think the police did i fine job then? Tazering an unarmed and non voilent man.. yea real tough police officers.. Originally by: dennyreborn The student was in the wrong and a dumb ass. police want to talk to you don't scream in their face. He should have know he was in the wrong. they should have tased those dumb ass asking for the police's badge number too. So youre just gonna take abuse like this and not point out to people that what they do is totally unacceptable? Id really like to see you take this kind of abuse and then tell me that its all fine a dandy.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:56:00 - [21] All he had to do was show his f'ing ID. But no, since he was of Iranian decent he copped a frigging attitude, and refused as he assumed he was being profiled, screaming about the patriot act. What an f'ing idiot! He got what he f'ing deserved IMO... Newest toy for my 63 acre sandbox Building the homestead
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:58:00 - [22] Originally by: DarkMatter All he had to do was show his f'ing ID. But no, since he was of Iranian decent he copped a frigging attitude, and refused as he assumed he was being profiled, screaming about the patriot act. What an f'ing idiot! He got what he f'ing deserved IMO... Welcome to redneck 101.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Ediz Daxx Originally by: DarkMatter All he had to do was show his f'ing ID. But no, since he was of Iranian decent he copped a frigging attitude, and refused as he assumed he was being profiled, screaming about the patriot act. What an f'ing idiot! He got what he f'ing deserved IMO... Welcome to redneck 101. If you can't obey a cop to simply hand over your ID, then you can go live somewhere else as far as I'm concerned. When I cross the US/Canadian border I don't cop an attitude when they do their job... Newest toy for my 63 acre sandbox Building the homestead
Calisto Cody Minmatar The Black Swan Society	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:30:00 - [24] and threatend a student that asked for the officers name and number... Grimkill > He said . . .. I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got nothing to put in it. <br>She said .. . You wear pants don't you?
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:36:00 - [25] Edited by: Ediz Daxx on 18/11/2006 18:48:35 He didnt even have a ID on him, as far as we know he could have just forgotten it. And your way of saying this is all fine and the cops are doing their job is ******* disgusting. And nowhere in the video do i hear the cops asking him for his ID. And where do you get this info that hes an iranian? Or is that just for yourself to try and justify what the cops did? Since hes Iranian its all fine to abuse him like this, becouse everyone knows Iran is the "bad guys" right?
Calisto Cody Minmatar The Black Swan Society	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:43:00 - [26] abusing your power is not doing you job, its doing a **** poor go at your job and being a power wielding bully Grimkill > He said . . .. I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got nothing to put in it. <br>She said .. . You wear pants don't you?
Scoundrelus Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:30:00 - [27] Displays like this make me wonder why police are trained in hand to hand combat. Tazer, pepper spray, guns, batons are used as secondary means of bringing a person down. Originally by: DarkMatter All he had to do was show his snip ID. But no, since he was of Iranian decent he copped a snip attitude, and refused as he assumed he was being profiled, screaming about the patriot act. What an snip idiot! He got what he snip deserved IMO... People like you should be exterminated. Period. =============================================== And Scoundrelus walked the Forums once again, and all was turned to flame...
oDDiTy V2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:45:00 - [28] Um... these cops should be fired if not, suspended for some time... I mean, you TASER some guy (read: electrocute him with 50,000 volts (granted, its not a lot of current)), and expect him to stand, then do it FOUR MORE times and expect him to stand? Lol? Do these people not get trained on the effects that a taser has on a person? Not to mention that depending on the person, regardless of how little current there is coming from the taser, you could possibly die. And besides that, I thought that tasers were supposed to be used like guns? Only in the case of a violent encounter? He had every right to be screaming about whatever laws he wanted, because that was sick.
Scoundrelus Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:48:00 - [29] Originally by: oDDiTy V2 Um... these cops should be fired if not, suspended for some time... I mean, you TASER some guy (read: electrocute him with 50,000 volts (granted, its not a lot of current)), and expect him to stand, then do it FOUR MORE times and expect him to stand? Lol? Do these people not get trained on the effects that a taser has on a person? Not to mention that depending on the person, regardless of how little current there is coming from the taser, you could possibly die. And besides that, I thought that tasers were supposed to be used like guns? Only in the case of a violent encounter? He had every right to be screaming about whatever laws he wanted, because that was sick. I don't blame the police, I blame the American government. Their so busy trying to "fix" every OTHER country's police that their forgetting about their own. =============================================== And Scoundrelus walked the Forums once again, and all was turned to flame...
oDDiTy V2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Scoundrelus I don't blame the police, I blame the American government. Their so busy trying to "fix" every OTHER country's police that their forgetting about their own. Fair enough I guess. But at the same time it comes down to the individual personalities of the police officers that are at the scene when this sort of thing is going on.

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