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Azarah Aubaris
The Irukandji
The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 05:33:16 -
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When you have played eve for a few years you grow accustom to things. I would say the biggest thing that all eve players get most accustom to is the UI in which they interact with their internet spaceships. For veteran or experienced players, eves UI is like a second hand to them. When that UI is changed or altered in a noticeable way, its almost like breaking that second hand. Sure a broken hand isnt the end of the world, and you will suffer for a short amount of time. Eventually it will recover and players will move on... But why break the hand in the first place?
Ive seen a few changes to the UI over the past 3 1/2 years in eve. Some were needed changes, like the inventory window overhaul, others were just nice flashy addons most of which could be disabled, or a choice between the new and old was present (e.g. the radial menu, the scan overlay, the new starmap). In the case of the new icons released in the latest patch there is no option to disable them or swap them out for the old icons. I find this to be mildly infuriating. When it comes to my UI i don't like changes being force upon me, and im pretty sure a lot of other players feel likewise. Dont get me wrong, im sure a lot of other people like the thought of CCP trying to improve the look of eve and i think its a novel idea too, but they should not force such a seemingly minor, yet big visual change on players.
Going back to my analogy of "breaking players seconds hands"... there is a simple way for CCP to add their new UI content without all the fuss, all they need to do is add the ability to chose preset icons (containing the old icons and new ones obviously). Even adding options to edit icon color would be cool as well. If this feature were added it would be more along the lines of "evolving players second hands," rather than breaking. Give Players the choice to change and adapt to a UI that they can alter at their own discretion. By doing this players can remain comfortable with their UI setups and have their immersion unhindered and even advanced. In short everyone wins, CCP gets to release the new content they developed, and the players get to modify their interface to what they feel most optimal for them.
 TLDR; add icon preferences into eve. Players can choose icons they want from presets and optimize their UI based on their preference enhancing their gameplay.
GÖÑAzzy |
DARKIFRIT
The Irukandji
The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 05:37:04 -
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I aggree |
Kazami Gouda
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.03 06:38:31 -
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I support this do it ccp |
Kealyb Draper
The Irukandji
The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:30:02 -
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Couldn't have said it any better. |
Phloater
New Sepulchral Monolith
The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 09:44:18 -
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I've only recently got used to the changed icons on the bar on the left and I still have to use the old map when I want to probe something down quickly because I can't go as fast on the new one yet. Seems like being able to switch to the old icons on and off would let people adapt to the change at their own speed (perhaps turn them off for their PvP toon and on for other accounts) and that would be a good thing. |
Darin Vanar
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.03 11:03:20 -
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Yeah, some icon preferences would be good.
Let me tell you, the asteroids were scary today!
Maybe I'll get used to it, but I really don't want to. lol
They are just there on the overview, demanding my attention. I like the new icons, but can I just please turn that part off? They look like they're ready to jump off my overview and attack me. Scrolling through columns and columns of them can be stressful because they look like gate camps.
I bet they are messaging each other asking if they want to knock my Venture out of align.
They are plotting against me. I know this because the overview is telling me this, and the overview is never wrong! |
Johny Tyler
Synapse.
Diplomatic Immunity.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 11:35:07 -
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For a while now Eve has often rewarded veteran experience. The effect of experience is an accumulation of all the little things that may put you ahead of a newer player, one marginal step at a time. The more often you change things the more you undermine the contribution and effect of experience. Changing icons may seem like a minor change, but it has a cumulative effect with all the other changes constantly taking place to undermine the advantage of veteran experience. It should definitely have come as a choice. |
Yana Shakti
Unlawful Combatants
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Posted - 2015.06.03 11:41:27 -
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+1
Give us ways to customize plz.
Yesterday I found that it took me an extra two or three seconds to figure out that I was on grid with a dessie and to lock him. And that's a problem because small ship solo combat often comes down to the last couple of shots. I'm sure it will get slightly better with time. But it's pretty worrying.
Can we have the option to colour code icons? I really need *all* player ships to be in an obvious pop-out colour so that I can see the bloody things instantly. (I can see the NCP ships just fine; they're red.)
Lastly, did CCP do a human-computer-interaction usability study on these new icons. HCI is a real domain with real cognitive psychologists running real studies. This icon fiasco is not as bad as the jumpgate headswing fiasco of a few years ago. But I'm still scratching my head about why an HCI professional is not on staff helping design the HUD. (CCP I can refer you to one that's currently in Iceland if you want.) |
Spugg Galdon
Nisroc Angels
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Posted - 2015.06.03 12:20:31 -
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Oh my lord.
Such moaning.
I hate change.
This isn't the familiar thing I am so used to.
I refuse to learn anything new!
Such tears.
So sweet.
I don't care.
HTFU.
Get used to it.
It's here to stay.
aaaaand, no you're not getting an option to turn it off cause of reasons
It really isn't going to take you very long to get accustomed to the new logos and symbology. CCP also will not keep things for the sake of "Legacy" as it will require maintenance which they are not prepared to put in place.
When the ship tech tree tool was released (I don't feel right calling it ISIS and then saying it was really "cool" and "well recieved" - eurrrgh, feel dirty now) everybody loved the ship icons used in it and requested CCP IMMEDIATELY put them into the overview.
To be fair, it is a big change, however, it's a good change. The Icons now in use are far far more informative. Trust me. You will enjoy the overview so much more in the future once you have committed murder it all to memory |
Albert Madullier
Trust Doesn't Rust
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 12:49:17 -
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i agree with this, anyone who pvp's on a regular basis camn see these new icons are far too fiddly for immediate identification,
its the drones that are the worst, they look like frigate bracket, imagine fighting 5 ishkurs and trying to work out where the ships are in amongst the drones |
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:31:38 -
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Albert Madullier wrote:i agree with this, anyone who pvp's on a regular basis camn see these new icons are far too fiddly for immediate identification,
its the drones that are the worst, they look like frigate bracket, imagine fighting 5 ishkurs and trying to work out where the ships are in amongst the drones
Because it's soooo hard to look at the "Type" column?
As far as CCP instituting an icon preference tab, I'm sure that's on their list right under adding an option to turn back to the old neocom.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Will troll for a t-shirt.
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Portmanteau
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.03 16:09:57 -
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I support this |
Albert Madullier
Trust Doesn't Rust
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 20:37:52 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Albert Madullier wrote:i agree with this, anyone who pvp's on a regular basis camn see these new icons are far too fiddly for immediate identification,
its the drones that are the worst, they look like frigate bracket, imagine fighting 5 ishkurs and trying to work out where the ships are in amongst the drones Because it's soooo hard to look at the "Type" column? As far as CCP instituting an icon preference tab, I'm sure that's on their list right under adding an option to turn back to the old neocom.
there's a type column in space??
that 1 sentence tells me you don't pvp
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.06.03 21:12:38 -
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Albert Madullier wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:Albert Madullier wrote:i agree with this, anyone who pvp's on a regular basis camn see these new icons are far too fiddly for immediate identification,
its the drones that are the worst, they look like frigate bracket, imagine fighting 5 ishkurs and trying to work out where the ships are in amongst the drones Because it's soooo hard to look at the "Type" column? As far as CCP instituting an icon preference tab, I'm sure that's on their list right under adding an option to turn back to the old neocom. there's a type column in space?? that 1 sentence tells me you don't pvp
It's called the overview.
That one sentence tells me you don't... oh wait, you're triumvirate. Nevermind, that already answers what I was going to say.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Will troll for a t-shirt.
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Azarah Aubaris
The Irukandji
The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 22:01:43 -
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Spugg Galdon wrote:Oh my lord.
Such moaning.
I hate change.
This isn't the familiar thing I am so used to.
I refuse to learn anything new!
Such tears.
So sweet.
I don't care.
HTFU.
Get used to it.
It's here to stay.
aaaaand, no you're not getting an option to turn it off cause of reasons
It really isn't going to take you very long to get accustomed to the new logos and symbology. CCP also will not keep things for the sake of "Legacy" as it will require maintenance which they are not prepared to put in place.
When the ship tech tree tool was released (I don't feel right calling it ISIS and then saying it was really "cool" and "well recieved" - eurrrgh, feel dirty now) everybody loved the ship icons used in it and requested CCP IMMEDIATELY put them into the overview.
To be fair, it is a big change, however, it's a good change. The Icons now in use are far far more informative. Trust me. You will enjoy the overview so much more in the future once you have committed murder it all to memory
my major point is, everyone has their own preferences, and ultimately players should be given a choice when it comes to their UI. Some players have welcomed the new UI changes, others like me have spent sooo much time with the old stuff and are most comfortable with it. If a feature like icon preferences was added everybody would win, you get to keep the new icons or switch to the old, in addition to swapping icons around for what you feel most optimal and comfy. I think everyone should be a fan of having UI options as a player, dont you?
also bump :3 |
Anaris Calachar
Dark Core Explorations
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Posted - 2015.06.03 22:11:34 -
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this +11 |
Rei Amani
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.03 22:12:51 -
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+1 |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.06.03 22:23:21 -
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Glorious tears.
Adapt or die whiners.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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wisen heimer
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.03 22:34:09 -
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+1 |
Clementina
The Irukandji
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Posted - 2015.06.03 23:03:43 -
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I think this is a good idea. While I am liking the new icons this far, the ability to choose what shapes you get, or return to the old shapes, or get different colors would be great. |
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d3ajah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.03 23:15:42 -
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+1
ccp pls |
Harold Sphinx
The Irukandji
The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 23:16:24 -
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+1 I'm all for adapt or die, but this isn't some game changing nerf she's complaining about. having options wouldnt really effect anyone else's gameplay other than your own as far as i can see. |
vikari
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2015.06.03 23:44:21 -
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+1
These iocns and such might seem great, but some of us like what we had before. It isn't just the new icons for ships and items in space. Many of us liked our old UI. If you want to make these changes CCP, we can understand, but leave us the option to change or not. The oldier UI and Icons were not something that would of put a stop to future expansion. |
ARMED1
Relentless Terrorism
Separatists
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Posted - 2015.06.03 23:54:15 -
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Quite simply the new icons are terribad.
The new map is also terribad in many ways.
All these "little things"... Seems that most of the "little things" that are being "fixed" weren't broken in the first place.
Could it be that these little things being constantly fiddled with is some hapless employee of CCP trying to justify their job and salary?
Quit screwing the game up.
I support the overuse of quotations. |
Reika Alfrir
The Irukandji
The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 00:03:48 -
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+1
i agree with giving players choices in how their icons are setup |
Vladimir Khurelem
Alpha Republic - Transcenders of Space and Time
Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2015.06.04 00:34:32 -
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+1
more customization is always better imo |
Pistolero Quevedo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.04 00:35:41 -
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I agreee.
Ability to set the icons you want the most, including old icons.
BUT NOT JUST THAT:
ALSO:
-Ability to see combat sites Distance without the need to pass mouse upon them.
-Ability to select combat sites from probing scanner window so camera moves to center them (with camera mode one) for directional scan purpouses.
Starting with one of those 2 extra i'm asking would help a lot for fun in nullsec.
If i'm not mistaken, directional scan was reduced to 14.3 AU, i remember it was 64 AU a while back.
Thank you |
mo8b8
Gemeinschaft interstellarer Soeldner
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 00:57:31 -
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Instead of doing things that needs to be done ccp is going to fool with things that works for years.
At least give us an improvment let us choose between the old and the new or more choices.
pls wake up |
Avelis26
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.04 01:02:40 -
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I totally agree |
Hiro Matsuu
The Irukandji
The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 01:09:22 -
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Harold Sphinx wrote:+1 I'm all for adapt or die, but this isn't some game changing nerf she's complaining about. having options wouldnt really effect anyone else's gameplay other than your own as far as i can see.
SHUT UP U BUM. -1
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