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lucinil
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.04 01:18:35 -
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Dr Cedric
Independent Miners Corporation Care Factor
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Posted - 2015.06.04 01:25:26 -
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I couldn't give a flip either way. You look at your overview and target from that. The icons are neat, give some quick information if you're willing to spend 8 seconds looking at the ISIS ship browser to see what is what.
Also, this has been in the works for like 6 months. They released a dev blog about it and said these are the ideas we want to go with. Im thinking there were maybe a dozen pages of replies, both good and bad. Im also remembering that they put this on the test server at least a little bit ago and asked for feedback. WHERE WERE ALL OF YOU WHINERS then? Where are links to your test server feedback posts? Why are you acting like this is the first time you knew these changes were coming!?
If you read dev blogs, you know these changes are coming, if you read the forums at all, you know what changes are coming to Sisi for testing and that they want feedback. So get on the test server, give feedback there and stop the whine fest here!
In 2 weeks, nobody will care/notice what the UI looks like, and I can bet there are alot of vet players (me included) that are happy to look at something other than white boxes and red crosses.
Cedric
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Azarah Aubaris
The Irukandji The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 01:43:22 -
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Dr Cedric wrote:I couldn't give a flip either way. You look at your overview and target from that. The icons are neat, give some quick information if you're willing to spend 8 seconds looking at the ISIS ship browser to see what is what.
Also, this has been in the works for like 6 months. They released a dev blog about it and said these are the ideas we want to go with. Im thinking there were maybe a dozen pages of replies, both good and bad. Im also remembering that they put this on the test server at least a little bit ago and asked for feedback. WHERE WERE ALL OF YOU WHINERS then? Where are links to your test server feedback posts? Why are you acting like this is the first time you knew these changes were coming!?
If you read dev blogs, you know these changes are coming, if you read the forums at all, you know what changes are coming to Sisi for testing and that they want feedback. So get on the test server, give feedback there and stop the whine fest here!
In 2 weeks, nobody will care/notice what the UI looks like, and I can bet there are alot of vet players (me included) that are happy to look at something other than white boxes and red crosses.
i knew about the changes when they were first proposed. I thought it was cool idea, i still think it is, I thought that the new icons would be added on the same basis of all the other recent UI changes, and be an optional addition. However the icons they replaced the old ones with dont all sit well with me. I like the idea of some of them, but i also like many of the old ones and miss them. sure in a week or too i can adapt, but why should i have too. The UI should be based on preference, because everyone has one. CCP should give the players the choice to edit their Icons in game, like how they can modify their overviews and window layouts to make an interface that is tailored to the individual. wouldnt you agree, having more options on what your UI looks like, be a positive thing to add?
TLDR; if youre too lazy to read im not whining that the new icons are bad and should be taken away, im asking for the new icons and the old ones with more options on customization. Players deserve to have options, i hope you feel the same :)
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Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2015.06.04 01:46:08 -
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Options are always good, however, I have to say, that unlike the horrible monochrome side bar/station UI, that's still confusing me more than 6 months in, I could get used to this, or something in this direction.
I mean, lets face it, the different color + signs for enemy ships, didn't actually tell you all that much. those icons are a leftover from 2003, when there really were only three ship types you had to know about, frigate, crusier, or battleship.
I'm not quite sure those are the best icons they could be, I tried to guess some of them, and nope, some of those are even close to intuitive. I have a feeling I will adapt here though, this is purely MORE information, instead of less, like certain other UI changes... |
din506
Trade Consortium The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 01:49:54 -
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Quote:TLDR; add icon preferences into eve. Players can choose icons they want from presets and optimize their UI based on their preference enhancing their gameplay.
Yes please - and make it so you can import UI themes from WoW. I need my DPS meter and custom action bars too. I need those more than my ship icons.
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Alex Bloodkiss
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.04 02:15:26 -
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I would like to be able to have the options to edit my UI also. |
Cpt Greywolf
Wolves and Knights The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 03:21:51 -
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I hate the new icons.........
I am visually impaired and this messes with my already poor eyesight |
TheNurseUK
Righteous Choirboys Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2015.06.04 03:54:10 -
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I think we should have the option to switch back, or even customize so for example we can choose what we want to represent what we want, maybe even allow the players to create there own icons in a PNG file/s on the client side in there settings folder, gives the pilots and creative pilots the freedom of choice, or modify the old overview to where if there wasn't an icon before add that to the overview, for example corpse's.
Also please allow us to add bookmarks to the overview as an option, this way we can have them as alignable and warpable signiures, after all we created them. |
Sergato
Gemeinschaft interstellarer Soeldner Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 08:16:38 -
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+1 i also suppport this
after 8 years of eve i now feel like a rookie pilot :/ |
McNoTo
Gemeinschaft interstellarer Soeldner Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 10:16:42 -
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wake up guys, ccp is only doing politics for young players for quite a while now. if they dont change the way of improving this game, they will loose more and more subscriptions like they now do.
Quote:Instead of doing things that needs to be done ccp is going to fool with things that works for years.
At least give us an improvment let us choose between the old and the new or more choices.
pls wake up
+1 for this
...and bring us fighter assist back!!! |
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2015.06.04 10:56:29 -
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Normally im all for extra options for customization, however i believe overview icons should be uniform across all players UI.
- Older players explain icons to new players. This becomes more difficult with UI customization. - Less space on the client. - Not much point in the effort when haters will get used to the new icons.
The new icons are clearly better. I read about people having trouble differentiating between frigates and dessies or cruisers and BC's...and what was it like before? oh yeah, they were identical! If its so hard, you can still use the name of the rat or ship type like you used to. For those having trouble telling the difference between size classes, i honestly dont know how you did it before, when i, without visual impairment, couldnt always tell the difference between large and medium brackets at a quick glance.
I do however miss one icon, and thats the hollow empty wreck. That was clearer to me than a diamond on top or not.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided" "So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
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Azarah Aubaris
The Irukandji The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 17:36:52 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote: - Older players explain icons to new players. This becomes more difficult with UI customization. - Less space on the client. - Not much point in the effort when haters will get used to the new icons.
- the ISIS window can teach newer players what the new icons are for ship class. - new icons would not take up loads of space on the client, because your talking about a couple dozen small thumbnail images that are just a few pixels big. - yes we can all get used to the new icons, but why do older players have to be forced into a relearning process?
customization is a good thing, and old players can still teach the new players how to set up their overviews and even share presets with, overview sharing, to teach them. Having a UI that can be more customizable to the individual is better for everyone. New players are going to have a steep learning curve coming into the game, but CCP is addressing new player retention on other fronts. i would argue that what the icons look like have no bearing on how new players learn the game whatsoever. New players just starting eve have no idea what icons even are and may not know what ship types and class are. Having access to better tutelage and easy access to info about the game mechanics is what really matters for newer players.
also bump :3 |
Teacher Oumis
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.04 17:53:03 -
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Agree with op, would appreciate an overview choice. |
darkchild's corpse
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2015.06.04 18:18:07 -
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i was just creating some own icons as suggestion in photoshop when i've seen this thread. i totally agree with op and think it's the best idea regarding this icon discussion. |
Alexis Nightwish
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Posted - 2015.06.04 18:27:51 -
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Despite the fact that I support this I'm going to Xpost from a similar thread:
CCP will never allow the use of old icons, because like everything they implement regarding the UI, letting us use the old version is like admitting that their new version isn't better, and there's no chance they'd do that.
To this day I hate the bracket system they implemented last year.
CCP approaches problems in one of two ways: nudge or cludge
EVE Online's "I win!" Button
Fixing bombs, not the bombers
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Lord Molly
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2015.06.04 18:29:17 -
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I agree with everything.
Why try to fix what is not even broken? |
Alkihir Cortus Galentus
The Irukandji The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.05 02:18:34 -
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+1 10/10 customization is whats needed in EVE, and one of CCP's goals |
Veran Nijoba
Gamers Corner
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Posted - 2015.06.05 06:01:13 -
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I Agree!
I was pulled here from https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5796418# buy the poster of this Topic. Similar Ideas they should be considered together as one, instead of separate!
You have my Support if you add in the NEX store purchases and somewhat incorporate my other ideas, if you see them, such as a bunch of sass! |
TrickyBlackSteel
Russia Caldari RUCA Emperor
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Posted - 2015.06.05 06:51:40 -
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give me the right to choose wich icons to use,please!!!!!!!!!!!!! CCP! |
LigrayOu Kva
Deep Space Conquerors Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:18:35 -
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Fully agree with topicstarter. Just add a one small button "Use old-school icons" that would be perfect for us. |
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.06.05 18:43:48 -
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Alexis Nightwish wrote:Despite the fact that I support this I'm going to Xpost from a similar thread:
CCP will never allow the use of old icons, because like everything they implement regarding the UI, letting us use the old version is like admitting that their new version isn't better, and there's no chance they'd do that.
To this day I hate the bracket system they implemented last year. I've been against every single change CCP has made to the overview over the last couple years. The neocom icons, the color changes, the crappy little corner markers that no longer let me put windows next to each other semi-seamlessly, etc... all of it. I'm even against the new overview icons.
But you know what? I've dealt with it. I've learned to deal with a UI that I think is getting progressively worse. I will continue to deal with this UI because I love the game.
When you look back at CCP's track record of undoing changes they've made, you really have two options:
1. Stop bitching and deal with it. 2. Unsub.
Please, stop shitting up F&I with all these threads about how bad you think the icons are. They were announced months ago, and you've had more then enough time to put your voice in before release. It's here now, so you can either shut up or ship out.
Your call.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Will troll for a t-shirt.
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Azarah Aubaris
The Irukandji The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.05 21:00:43 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote: When you look back at CCP's track record of undoing changes they've made, you really have two options:
1. Stop b****ing and deal with it. 2. Unsub.
Please, stop s***ting up F&I with all these threads about how bad you think the icons are. They were announced months ago, and you've had more then enough time to put your voice in before release. It's here now, so you can either shut up or ship out.
i can provide an example of a change that ccp went back on...
remember the vagabond back when inferno was released? CCP took the fins away, then everybody complained about it, and eventually CCP gave the vaga its fins back. :P
this thread also isnt a gripe thread on the new icons. if you would have read the original post in its entirety, i stated i thought the new icons and UI changes were a "novel idea". This thread just a proposed idea to give players more choices over their UI. |
Johny Tyler
Synapse. Diplomatic Immunity.
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Posted - 2015.06.06 02:11:40 -
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I don't understand the hate from the people who like the new icons against the people who don't.
We aren't asking CCP to take away the icons you like, we would just like the option to use the old ones. It should be fairly simple to accomplish so there really isn't any good reason that it can't happen. |
Vibes
The Irukandji The Irukandji.
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Posted - 2015.06.06 03:13:43 -
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YEAH!!!!! +11111111111111111 |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2015.06.06 13:51:20 -
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Azarah Aubaris wrote: - yes we can all get used to the new icons, but why do older players have to be forced into a relearning process?
Because thats a lot simpler than CCP having to implement a bunch of customizable icons. You talk about it as if its five minutes work, where as you can just get used to the new icons and everyone can have a unified UI...
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided" "So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
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Steelrattty
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2015.06.07 05:20:29 -
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I have a complaint about whoever is in charge of giving the OK to the development teams on their ideas. I feel like this individual has no concept of quality control and simply allows any idea through because they don't want to hurt the feelings of the employee who worked on it. For example, most of the UI updates in recent history have been obvious downgrades with a lot of people complaining they wanted the old one back, or at least an option to revert to an older version of the UI. Would a customizable UI really be so hard to achieve? The most recent tragedy that was allowed to go live was the new icon pack, I want to use the old icon pack; I am accustomed and familiar with it, it makes sense.... this new pack is almost spastic in its arrangement and has no logical pattern, it makes the game harder to play. People will argue that this is only a small fraction of the population complaining about these UI/Cosmetic changes with no option to revert to previous versions, however, anyone with half a brain knows CCP have NEVER cared about the player bases opinion on these patches and a majority of people who might complain simply don't because they know its 100% a waste of time. In the 10+ years i've logged into EvE i've only seen a select few instances where CCP actually reverted a change made in a patch because its what the players wanted, this is a serious problem.
tl;dr
Give players the option to use new icons or old icons, is this really so hard? And continue to give players options regarding COSMETIC patches that have no effect on anything and the use of which should be dependant on the players preference, not the preference of the development team.
http://strawpoll.me/4563214
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Paladinhunt
The Returners Hideout Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2015.06.07 05:36:13 -
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I was threatened to post here lest I be denied access to USTZ fleetops.
Change scary, pls gib options.
10/10 OP is cool guy
pls don't pod me.... |
Wild Stallion1236
Universal Fleet Operations Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.07 05:38:02 -
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These new icons are terrible and CCP should be ashamed. |
Crazy Candy
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2015.06.07 05:39:41 -
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To be honest not allowing us not to choose what icons we can use for our overview seems dumb.
A lot of them are barely different, the drone icons are as big as ship icons.
This is just a disaster tbh |
St Boltzmann
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2015.06.07 05:45:55 -
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everyone who plays this dingus game has the old icons burned into they're brains, regardless of how horrible and inefficient they were
if it aint broken dont fix it ccp, my brain does not like these new icons |
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